California Passes Sweeping Gun Control: $50 Ammo Permit Fee, No Detachable Magazines or Mags over 10 rounds

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The State of California has once again gone off the deep end, and has approved a whole range of new gun control bills that will make it even harder on law abiding citizens to own a gun in California.

Firing Self-defense HandgunThe California Senate approved a package of bills this week that goes directly after law-abiding gun owners. The bills make the state’s already draconian gun laws even more ridiculous, by outlawing detachable and large-capacity magazines (which they define as anything over 10 rounds), tracking anyone who buys ammunition and reporting orders over 3,000 rounds, imposing large fees for those who do buy ammo, and expanding the category of offenders prohibited from owning guns for 10 years.

One of the most controversial bills will require the State’s residents to submit personal information and a $50 fee anytime they want to purchase ammunition. The State will then determine whether the buyer will be allowed to purchase the ammunition, which means  depending on how the background checks come back, the same day purchase of ammunition in California may be a thing of the past.

The California Senate also OK’d a bill that will outlaw the sale, purchase and manufacture of semiautomatic rifles that can accommodate detachable magazines. It also requires that anyone who currently owns one of these weapons, immediately register it with the State.

Guilty until Proven Innocent

This is nothing more than targeting and criminalizing law-abiding gun owners. In no way do any of these laws make it harder for a criminal to acquire ammunition, since most do so through illegal channels to begin with.

All these bills will do, is send criminals over the California border, ensuring a larger black market of guns and ammunition to stream into California.

Attorney General Approves Mandated Bullet Stamping That Will Effectively Ban All New Guns

Earlier this week, California Attorney General Kamala Harris officially certified a law that will require all new semiautomatic handguns to use technology that stamps identifying information on bullet casings. Since gun manufacturers are not likely to spend money retrofitting their entire production lines, California has effectively banned the sale of all new guns.

Here are the provisions that have been approved by the California State Senate.

  • The state Department of Justice must notify local law enforcement agencies when a person purchases more than 3,000 rounds of ammunition.
  • SB 47 by Sen. Leland Yee, D-San Francisco, bans so-called “bullet buttons” that are used to get around current laws banning detachable magazines.
  • SB 53 by Sen. Kevin de León, D-Los Angeles, to create new state permits that require background checks for buyers of ammunition. Buyers will also have to submit to a $50 permit fee to buy Ammo.
  • An additional 10 percent tax on all ammunition sold in California
  • SB 374 by Steinberg, D-Sacramento, to ban detachable magazines in rifles. (Yep, even a Ruger 10/22 will be considered an illegal assault weapon)
  • SB 396 by Sen. Loni Hancock, D-Berkeley, to prohibit possession of magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition.
  • SB 567 by Sen. Hannah-Beth Jackson, D-Santa Barbara, to change the definition of certain kinds of shotguns to make them assault weapons, thus making them illegal in California.
  • SB 683 by Sen. Marty Block, D-San Diego, to require all gun buyers to take a firearm safety class and earn a safety certificate.
  • SB 755 by Sen. Lois Wolk, D-Davis, to increase the number of crimes – including offenses related to drug addiction,  alcoholism and others – that result in a 10-year ban on being allowed to own a gun.
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  1. Comifornia says:

    Attention Californians please stop moving to the surrounding States. You idiots allowed this shit to happen to your state so stop moving to our states and trying to impose your lib bullshit on the rest of the country.

    • weaponkid says:

      there also getting rid of a lot of pro gun people
      out of California by doing this

      • Are you seriously thinking the pro-gun nuts will be missed? Like anyone really wants a maniac like Ted Nugent living next-door.

        • Arkaden says:

          See there’s the problem. Someone refers to a pro-gun person and you immediately jump on them calling them pro-gun “nuts”. You realize there are norms and extremes to everything, right? Way to immediately judge people.

        • VegasJim says:

          Hey Silas, why don’t you go blow yourself. And stay the fuck out of Vegas while you’re at it.

          • Grant Jordan says:

            Are your Sheriffs prepared to support their citizen’s right to the 2nd Amendment? What really confuses me is why all you gun owners and 2nd Amendment supporters didn’t fight those liberal idiots in Sacramento, to stop this nonsense in its tracks!!!

          • shane says:

            tulare county sherrif is

          • LeavingPRK says:

            Of course we fought them. But the masses of Sheeple in LA and SF wipe out our votes and voices. So, my wife and I are voting with our feet and retiring to Fort Worth, TX next year (which the soonest we can get out of PRK).

        • Ifneartist says:

          Can’t think of a single law-abiding citizen who would want you, Silas, as a neighbor!!

          • OregonforOregonians says:

            I would love to have Silas as a neighbor! I would put up one of those “my neighbor dosn’t like guns so I promise not to use mine to defend him” signs.

          • Central coasters says:

            Oregonfor… where can i get that sign i need one >..>

          • ken440 says:

            try living some were like stockton ca were unarmed people are killed every day because they dont have the right to carry a gun.wake up people it our right and responsibility to protect ourselves.The only reason we have had so few attacks on our country is because we have the right to bear arms, and if we give up this right we are no better off than other countries.

        • Jenn says:

          We are pro 2nd Amendment and have guns in our home and we are in no way “pro-gun nuts”. We are a normal family who happen to have guns in our house. My husband, myself, and our oldest son (our other 3 are a bit young)are all properly trained in weapon safety and know how to properly fire a weapon. My husband was a firearms instructor in the Marine Corps and has trained many of our friends as well. We live in Southern California in a nice middle class neighborhood just outside of town, but we do have break-ins every couple months. We keep weapons for home defense (police response time in our neighborhood averages 1+ hrs) and recreation. We neither look nor act like Ted Nugent and are not maniacs. I don’t understand people like you who don’t believe people have the RIGHT and OBLIGATION to protect themselves and their family in their own home. If someone illegally enters my home with say…a knife, a baseball bat, or just his bare hands, I don’t want them to get close enough to myself or one of my children to use one of those weapons. I would rather stop them from a good distance and then let the cops come and take care of the rest. But then that is just me, some protective mom A.K.A Maniacal Pro-Gun Nut. So lame.

          • Common Sense says:

            “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

            What part of “WELL REGULATED MILITIA” do you not understand? You are not a “militia” and therefor you do not need an arsenal of military-grade weapons.

          • Bob Woo says:

            “What part of “WELL REGULATED MILITIA” do you not understand? You are not a “militia” and therefor you do not need an arsenal of military-grade weapons.”

            The term regulated was meant in the sense of properly provisioned. Look up a dictionary of the time. It had ZERO to do with restriction or some uniform standards otherwise they would have made provisions for that but it never happened. They just meant that the citizens needed to be well armed for the security of the country. Pretty simple.

            Also, the supreme court has already upheld the right as and individual right and not a collective one, meaning each citizen has a right to be a militia unto themselves.

          • shane says:

            hey so called “common sense”, clearly you lack it. every male citizen 18 years to 45 is the militia. thats the law! dumbass! dick act 1903, national defence act 1916. and i am a uniformed member of the california state militia. and we are ready!

          • Jenn says:

            @Common Sense-What part of what I posted would lead you to believe we have “an arsenal of military-grade weapons”? Please enlighten me. None of the weapons we have in our home were the type that were issued to my husband when he was in the infantry or any other time he was in the military with the exception of MAYBE our .45 pistol.

            @Bob Woo–Thank you. Well stated.

          • Doc says:

            Unfortunately, the evidence and every study shows that having a gun in your home makes you and your family less safe, not more. This is a total myth. Guns do not make you safe. And the reckless proliferation of this myth and guns makes us all less safe. Good for California, making laws based on science, not ideology.

          • Robert says:

            Good job Jenn. As an Oregon resident, I have to say though, people like those in SF and elsewhere in CA are why the rest of us aren’t very welcoming to people from CA and laugh at so many of them for their total lack of common sense and their total idiocy. You folks are welcome however. I have a wife from Santa Barbara who’s family is mostly conservative and ok with gun ownership. We hope that we and the good people to the north in WA can hold off the idiot liberals west of the Cascades so they don’t try to follow your lead.

          • Robert says:

            Common Sense. As has already been pointed out to you, the Supreme Court has reaffirmed the 2nd Amendment as an individual right. If it did actually matter about the militia part, here’s the deal. As has already been said, well-regulated means orderly and properly provisioned. Part of that also means having the same small arms as the military, as that is what it was when the laws were written. The militia is a backup to the military in times when that needs to be, which is why they would have weapons compatible with military weapons. As to that, a most interesting point. In most states, including here in Oregon, with the proper FFL license, a private citizen can own a fully automatic weapon. Care to guess how many crimes have been committed with legally owned full-autos? 2, since the mid-’30′s. I suggest you do some research, as all your comments are 180 off and easily disproven. That’s what the internet is for besides porn.

          • fayt says:

            they are not taking guns from you or anyone else they are limiting them if people want to be technical they can send you back to muskets and as long as you can own a firearm(Musket) your right is not infringed

          • Sandi says:

            amen!

          • John Perry says:

            “Common Sense” as you claim to have it, I direct your attention to District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008). Being a part of the militia IS NOT a requirement. What part of this do you not get?

          • John Perry says:

            Also, “Common Sense” do you have a clue that civilians DO NOT HAVE access to “military-grade weapons” because they are restricted to-the-military. California is not addressing “military-grade” they are addressing “civilian-grade”.

          • Chris says:

            “I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials.”
            — George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788

          • Walt says:

            You need to pay more attention to the 2nd half of that statement. You have in the first place defense, a well regulate militia. Then you have the right of the people. To keep and bear arms. Now some here rightly say the militia was between this age and that age. Yet no where in any court case or writing of our founders. Will you find a case that when that person reached that maximum age they had to turn in their weapon. You now what else you will never find? Women not allowed to own weapons. Women were not allowed in the militia. Yet they were allowed to own weapons. These things all show that people are allowed to own weapons. Your opinions only show the old adage is true. If you tell someone often enough and long enough no matter how stupid it is, eventually they will start to believe it.

          • diz says:

            @doc if a criminal came into your house with a gun, what would you grab? a fork? spoon? knife? or would you just say “please don’t hurt me mr. nice man with a gun who wants to hurt me and my family.” Owning a gun is not about being “safe” it’s about leveling the playing field between you and the other guy. Of course, a gun doesn’t make your home more safe if you can’t shoot it properly, but if you can then yes, you are much safer than the man who doesn’t own a gun.

          • Jack says:

            To the person that said having guns in the home is less safe. Break into the home of an armed citizen and see if he or you is more safe. I just can’t believe people can be so stupid. You know what makes you more unsafe ? Violent movies that trigger unstable people to commit violent crimes. Mental health is the problem not guns. Timothy McVey killed hundreds without guns. Look at the NY marathon killings. No gun. Twin Towers, no gun. My conclusion, outlaw marathons, airplanes, and fertilizer to end the killings. Makes sense huh!

          • Centurian says:

            @Doc, what studies do you refer to specifically? Sadly for you, the evidence is the direct opposite. Take a look at the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy study findings. http://www.westernjournalism.com/heres-some-devastating-news-for-gun-grabbers/

          • Wirecutter says:

            Fayt – So what you’re saying is that if they can force us back to owning muskets, then they can also force all media back to single stage printing presses and their Right to Free Speech will still be protected?

        • J says:

          Stay the hell away from Tx….we dont want your type, we dont need your type. You’re prob one of those who voted for Obama…wouldnt doubt it. Put a sign outside your door saying you are “gun-free”, lets see how long that lasts……..idiots….

          • Bamf says:

            I love idiots like this guy!!! Lmao anyone leaving CA because of this shit isnt trying to go somewhere to make more laws dumbass and the problem with Ca is we had all the idiots from your states move here and FUCK are state up.

          • john says:

            @barf: LMAO???? what grown man uses lmao? And its “our” not are…… uneducated people make ignorant people

          • Steve K says:

            Stay out of Iowa too… Leave California and New England to the libtards that think bad guys will leave them alone out of the goodness of their hearts.

          • steve says:

            John @ barf. Your a total asshole. Calling people names just shows your ignorance.

        • Kurt says:

          Silas, when trouble happens at your place or to those you love, the FIRST thing you will do is call someone with a gun. You’ll wish they could have arrived faster, too. You SHOULD want someone like Ted living next to you- you’d be a heck of a lot safer. Try NOT acting like a sniveling sissy- you might find it nice to become more capable and self-reliant… or just keep drinking from the government tit like they want you to do.

        • Barry newman says:

          i do come over Ted we will will go hunting.

        • DM says:

          May the Mexican Drug Cartels move next door to you and date your daughter..

        • DaMong says:

          I say lets have all the legal gun owners leave California and let it turn into a bigger shit-hole than it already is!!!!

          • Father of 7 says:

            Funny thing, alot of the legal gun owners in California are also business owners who would also be taking their JOBS with them!!

          • Carver says:

            Any body ever watched demolition man, if not its a movie where in the future all guns are illegal and one criminal come back from the past and uses a gun he get against the people of California. to sum it up criminal will always break the law if it makes their job more easy, the only way to make their job harder is to either have body guards or get a gun.

        • Shannon Amos says:

          Silas, you forget that the “pro-gun nuts” are the people who have jobs, pay taxes and contribute to society. Without those taxpayers in the State there won’t be anyone available to support the folks collecting that monthly welfare check. I agree that crime in this State is getting out of control, but restricting the rights of honest gun owners isn’t the correct path. Only thing it does is encourages lawful taxpayers to move out of State. I am a law abiding State resident who pays taxes, votes, stays involved in local charity events and owns firearms. If you don’t want my tax dollars or involvement in charities within the State, I “the pro-gun nut” will be happy to take my tax dollars to a more “pro-gun” State.

        • CJ says:

          Rather a gun nut than a goose steppin lib (national SOCIALIST).

        • Chris says:

          I am a registered democrat. To tell you I would much rather Ted Nugent or a “gun nut”next door than latino gangbangers.

        • kenjack says:

          Having Ted Nugent as a neighbor is highly preferable to having a milquetoast like you as a neighbor, Silas. I prefer to have stand-up Americans as neighbors over you carriers of European purses.

        • Larry Walker says:

          I’d rather have him than you libtool. When they come to rob your home blow them a kiss and see how far that will get you.

        • Cuz says:

          I would love to be Ted’s neighbor, in fact, I would love to live in a neighborhood full of Ted Nugent’s. I bet you’re one of those liberal idiot’s in California…

        • justin says:

          Ted Nugent is a wonderful neighbor. You’re a moron.

        • wally says:

          Ecclesiastes 10:2 Gives Us The Answer ToBoth Conservative And Liberals. WhO Knew God Had The AnsweR Over4 thousand Years Ago!

        • SuffolkMike says:

          You’ll be wishing you had a pro-gun nut as a neighbor to help you when a criminal has you by the balls….I can hear you now screaming ” Help me Ted! Please Dear God help me!” Sorry Silas, you’re dead.

        • james reese says:

          well we will send the send the home invaders to your house , and let them know you are un-armed… you fuckin idiot….

        • Jack says:

          Has Ted Nuggent killed anyone you moron? You think gun control is the answer ? Last time I was in Juarez Mexico, 26 people were murdered in one night. You can’t have a gun in Mexico. Washington D C, Chicago, New York, toughest gun laws and some of the highest gun crimes. Wake up Bozo, you are ruining our country.

        • Frank Nelson says:

          Yep, it sucks. Time to go. And do it before they impose some kind of wealth tax for those trying to escape these tyrants. Quit wasting time on this totalitarian wet dream. Lads like Silas hate guns but given the opportunity will have no trouble tying your hand behind your, forcing you to your knees and shooting you in the back of the head with a small caliber pistol.

        • Frank Nelson says:

          Yep, it sucks. Time to go. And do it before they impose some kind of wealth tax for those trying to escape these tyrants. Quit wasting time on this totalitarian wet dream. Lads like Silas hate guns but given the opportunity will have no trouble tying your hands behind your back, forcing you to your knees and shooting you in the back of the head with a small caliber pistol.

      • Denny says:

        I just moved from California last week as I knew this crap was coming down. Lived in the SF Bay area for 3 years and hated every minute of it. I returned to my home state of Michigan where law abiding gun owners are respected. There are plenty of firearm enthusiasts in CA, only problem is they are totally outnumbered by ignorant, arrogant, pretentious, socialists.

    • scott says:

      Not all of us are libs. We move from California to get away from this BS. Don’t bunch us all in to one category.

      • noneofyourfuckingbusiness says:

        you actually move TO cali? lol why?

        • Derek says:

          Reading is fundamental, buddy.

    • CAsux says:

      I live in CA and am now seriously looking to GTFO. I take exception to your blanket “idiot” comment – people like me are probably a lot like you, and we are the minority here. The liberal MAJORITY have elected these D-bags who keep passing these inane laws. People like me no longer fit in here so, yeah, we’ll soon be moving to the surrounding states.
      People like me probably have more in common with you than the liberal fukcwads who are driving this state into the ground.
      So please don’t ask or expect “us” to stay here – and since I may be your new neighbor, please don’t paint all Comifornians with the same brush.

      • Bill says:

        Well said CAsux, not all of us in California are “idiots” who let this happen. This state is basically run from San Francisco, all of the Democrats in charge are from there. I’ve lived here all my life, and when I get ready to retire, my wife, who is from Virginia,we have both decided to probably go to North Carolina. Looking forward to the day when Ca. will no longer get any more of my tax money.

        • Mitch says:

          I and my fellow North Carolinians will be glad to have you move here buddy. We love our guns here.

          • Danny says:

            I recommend that Californians fight and take back control of their state the way we are doing in North Carolina…. step one: stop allowing the progressives to silence you. be outspoken in your criticism every day. Don’t be shy, go after them.

            It does no one any good to retreat from the battle and give up on a state with the capabilities of California.

        • SNIPER says:

          And we all know about Sissyco.
          Praying for the largest earthquake the west coast has ever seen would be a good thing about now.

          • Jenn says:

            Well, if it only got rid of the libs making the rules that would be great, but unfortunately my entire family (who are very conservative) lives in the Bay Area and therefore, I can’t pray for their demise. Thanks, though.

          • SNIPER says:

            OOPS,,

        • Grant J. says:

          CAsux and Bill: I agree and understand fully what you pro gun and constitutional folks are facing in the California Socialist State of America. California has separated itself from our U. S. Constitutional Republic, and no longer mirrors our free Republic. It is not surprising to me to see your Legislature attempt to take their citizens right of self defense away. I live in Oregon, and the mentally ill liberals are trying this stuff here to, but so far have been held at bay. Even most of our Sheriffs have gone on record to state that they will NOT allow enforcement of ANY laws that violate our 2nd Amendment. Good luck with your search to find the right State.

        • John says:

          The Los Angeles basin and the greater San Francisco bay area run this state. Their population centers are dense with “free stuff” voters.

        • NCHunter says:

          There’s plenty of space in NC, just come on over. The only thing we ask is that you burn any bridges you cross so the Libtards don’t follow you. Look me up when you get here and we’ll have a day at the range to celebrate.

        • Robert says:

          We in the great state of TENNESSEE,are as happy as can be… to see…California is the place to be…if you want to have a crime spree!!! (start of a great rap song) “YaCrock-YuShame-UsAlla” is overcome with joy to see that he has a place he can send those in GITMO and close GITMO. They should have a great time there! Wait, some of them are already in the cowardornia senate!

      • CeeKayexca says:

        Montana and Wyoming is open for gun owners and business.

      • Phil D. says:

        move up here to wa, we need more people here to vote out the libtrolls before they do the same here

        • Tom says:

          Yep! We just narrowly made it out of our gun control proposals. Need reinforcements for hipster libs in Seattle take over as they keep moving in.

      • J says:

        Dude just move right across the Nevada line and buy lots of class 3 weapons and shoot them in your backyard with 100rd drums. Then when ever you want the beach just drive to Cali on the weekends and have fun. I wouldn’t give those scumbags a $ of my tax money.

      • J says:

        You’re welcome in TX…..

        • Gettinouttacali says:

          Thanks pal, see ya in a few months.

          I wonder what it’ll be like to actually live in the US of A….

          • Michael says:

            ALL PRO GUN folks are welcome in AZ COME ON OVER!

          • Sabrina Laplante says:

            Thanks buddy, my whole family and I are relocating to AZ next year!!! Prescott area, cannot wait to get the heck out if this gross state!!!

          • Dawn says:

            We’re out in about 5 years and headed to Arizona. We take our guns, ammo, and our tax money with us. So tired of LA, San Fran and Sacramento ruining things for the rest of us.

    • Daniel says:

      First of all you are the idiot, thinking that we allowed this, we have no say on what the government does or says, I myself call and email senate all the time saying I oppose this crap…

      • noneofyourfbusiness says:

        yes daniel, YOU did allow it by not gathering, organizing, and standing up to it, violently if need be…

        • Moran says:

          So, I assume you’re fighting a one-man armed insurrection against the anti-liberty laws in YOUR state… right?

          Right?

      • John says:

        Right on Daniel! I’ve Fought this Calif.Crap Forever it seems!

    • Gerard says:

      I couldn’t agree more. I hope these liberal butt heads become the victims of these arcane laws. I thought about moving there now I wish they would break off from the rest of us and go floating out to sea.

    • Coledude says:

      You Sir are a fucktard.. We have no control over this and the people here trying to stop it probably do more work in one week fighting gun control they you will do in your whole fucking life.

      • sharon says:

        i think it was you i checked out on redneck ,com if so i would love to hear from you..

    • Simi Shooter says:

      Not all of us are lib idiots. Some of us have been fighting these measures and many earlier ones like them for years.

    • Ron Patriot says:

      I escaped the PRC (Peoples Republic of California) so I could attempt to enjoy liberty again, not to push socialist/communist beliefs in Arizona.

    • Brett says:

      How the F*CK can you say “we” let this happen? This happened without our consent. They just thought it up and did it. No vote, not polls, nothing. Just freaking did it.

      Unless you are saying that we didn’t write enough letters of opposition. Yeah, like they actually give a crap what we think.

      • Robert says:

        So like, you are like,voting like, all those in the senate that voted for like,your enama, completely out of like, office, RIGHT!!! Or are you just going to drink more of like, “YaCrock-YuShame-UsAlla’s kool-aid? Sorry, just trying to “like” speak in terms you might understand.

      • R.T. says:

        Do you mean to say you can’t gather enough signatures to force these issues to a VOTER REFERENDUM and take it out of these assbite, politicians hands??? It CAN and HAS been done before!

    • Erik Block says:

      Your ignorance toward the matter is astounding, tell me this if people are moving out of this state that is because they want to escape the tyrannical bull these tyrants in office are imposing on us. I just want to be left alone.

    • Realqyeenofspades says:

      Thank you-so true. The large influx of Californians is now ruining Nevada because they will elect anybody with a D next to the name, and by doing do, have put in power snakes to our Nevada legislature and federal level. They vote blindly and I can tell you from personal interaction with Nevada Democrats this session-your freedoms and well being are NOT a priority. They will take some more of your money though, thank you. So please, disenfranchised Californians, stay where you are, or get educated before you vote if you move to your neighboring state.

      • Jenn says:

        Well, luckily I am educated and vote conservative every time. I would also rather have my tongue nailed to the floor than move to Nevada. I am instead taking my Marine veteran husband, our guns (all of which are now illegal, I guess) and our conservative votes to Tennessee.

        • Michael says:

          Whats wrong with Nevada?

        • Robert says:

          Jenn, Tennessee would love to have you and your MARINE here. I believe you will find open arms especially in east Tn,. We “DO” value our constitution and the rights your MARINE fought for. Leave that maggot state!

      • Jay says:

        Yup–same thing has happened to Colorado, however it started in the late 80′s and unfortunately the Californians who were escaping to Colorado brought their liberal values with them. Pretty much ruined the State when they took control of the legislature. Sad.

    • Daniel says:

      I couldnt agree more. California needs to break off and drown in the ocean already. Its a disgrace to America. However i used to live in that shit hole. Then i took up arms at 18 and got stationed in Arkansas. Im happier than a baby in a titty bar to be out of that bullshit state. Let them all expire at the mess they have created.

    • pop shot says:

      I would love to lock the borders of California and not allow its insanity to spread further, they are a bunch of idiots!!! HOWEVER… how about us non-idiot angry meat eating, gun toting people that are trapped in this shit hole huh?! Can’t a few of us come hang out with normal people or are we doomed??

    • Jenn says:

      Hey now! Don’t lump us all in together. We get outvoted by darned libs at every election. My husband and I sure didn’t vote any of these morons into office. I did happen to be born here but, the only reason my husband is here in the first place is because he was stationed at Camp Pendleton Marine Base for 13 yrs and got a great paying job after getting out of the Marines working on the same base. With 4 kids, we wanted to be able to put some money away which we are able to do during this particular gov’t contracting job. Once this contract is up next summer, we are outta here and back to his small hometown in Tennessee!! There are a lot of conservatives in Cali (at least here in Southern California). We just get outvoted by nutjobs.

      • Wowwww says:

        I grew up in San Diego and there is a large conservative population but we stand no chance against liberal Northern California. Seriously Northern California and Southern California need to become separate states. SF and the rest of the Liberal bay area are ruining this State for the rest of us.

        • Jenn says:

          You are correct. The problem is that nobody outside the state sees that. All they see are the liberals and the jack-wads they elect into office.

          • Dawn says:

            I’m in Kern County. If you want more conservative than that, you’ll have to move to Texas. My hubby believes the majority of these new laws will be overturned in court. Of course, by the time that happens, we’ll have moved out of this state…and happily shake the dust off our shoes.

      • steve says:

        Please don’t call Sacramento Northern Calif.Those of us that live up here do not claim that area as nothern.I’ve hunted and carried a gun since I was 5yrs old.I served my country in the US ARMY.Retired from the Ca.Dept of Corrections.I posses a current FFL.But now I will become a criminal for standing up for my rights

      • Robert says:

        Hey Jenn, I am in a small town in east Tn. Looking forward to having you and your family here! But, don’t bring any “dumpacraps with you! OK?

    • Stormegeddon says:

      Keep this in mind, when we move to your state it will boost the amount of pro gun people, and help protect your right to bear arms. pretty soon the only people left in California will be the union workers and the illegal aliens.

      • Robert says:

        Shame on you Stormegeddon, I thought California did not have illeagal aliens, they only have “undocumented” workers. We do have “illeagal” aliens here and are getting rid of them as often as possible.
        GO VOL’s!

    • Brenda says:

      This is outrageous!! Time to leave california! Then where will they get their money for welfare recipients!!

    • Nick says:

      Comifornia your an idiot, as a gun owner and libertarian I hate Californias politics and I live here, people who are pro gun are vastly outnumbered by the retard liberals, there’s nothing to do, I vote against these people I get out the libertarian message, but they are simply to stupid to get it, and there also used to sucking on the tax payer tit. Why do I stay here you might ask, you simply cannot beat the weather, it is probably one of the only places in the world where you can get up surf, go drive an hour or two and then snowboard, then go to the desert and ride your dirt-bike off road trucks shoot guns, then be back at home before supper. the trade off you have retard liberals, and you’ve got a shit ton of overpriced stuff. but pretty soon its not going to be worth it. I fight for what i believe in and am vastly outnumbered everyday, i don’t have the luxury of having a whole state that believes what i believe. But it sounds nice and that’s where i probably will be moving real soon.

    • shane says:

      excuse me but all the people who are leaving are the ones who opposed all this shit! do you really think any liberal would leave when they have all they could want here? you really want it to stop, then get your own state on the ball and sue california for violating the constitution!

    • Chilcoat says:

      “Comifornia – you are an idiot if you think all Californians are liberals!! My family is all born and raised here and we ate as conservative as they come. Unfortunately, there are a lot of liberals in the Bay Area as well as Hollywood. They are the ones who keep putting Feinstein and Boxer back in!!! My family are law abiding, gun loving people. It would be nice if people recognized that fact and not lump all of us together with the IDIOTS who not only came up with these RIDICULOUS laws but also managed to get them passed.

    • Mik Pyle says:

      Our rights cannot be taxed or charged!

    • Ready_To_Go says:

      I left that floater of a state 25 years ago, I thought it was bad then, but it’s really gone to shit. Glad I left! Now in WV, which so far is gun friendly. Our old governor is now senator and he has flip flopped a good bit on gun issues so we need to keep one eye open at all times with this loser.

    • FUKCA. says:

      I’M MOVING TO AZ. so i can get away from these psycho liberal shits

    • kenjack says:

      Commie – go blow yourself. Our problem was caused by so many weak-ass liberals moving TO our state over the years that they eventually outnumbered us. Keep your left-wingers in your own states and quit blaming native Californians for the problems your emigrants created.

    • Screw You Comifornia says:

      Up yours Comifornia. It is the Democratic Bureau of shit heads that run this state, who are responsibale for the passing of this no-mind rediciulos Ban on guns and ammo. Just like New York, Colorado, Boston and Chicago, to name a few. Be thankfull that you live in a State that has it’s Head screwd on right. And just so you know, I am moving my ass to Arizona soon.

    • Travis says:

      I’ll be glad once i’m out of california, i’m leftist/libertarian leaning and think many of the regulations are a load of bollocks. This legislation will do nothing to make us safer, only more unsafe.

    • AT says:

      If more pro second amendment people helped fight this stuff instead of just saying F those idiots in California maybe this wouldn’t happen. Not everyone in this state votes so that these things will happen.

    • Elayne says:

      Californians are not welcome in my state to change our lifestyle. Everytime one comes here, they think of another way to limit freedom…..go home

    • Mike says:

      First of all I will move anywhere I please. Second, when did you elect yourself dictator and suspend Article IV, Section II, Clause I of the US Constitution by telling Americans (including Vets such as me) that they no longer have the right to travel freely in this country? Do you work for TSA or what? Your rediculous comment puts you in the same class as these communist pigs that are hell bent on destroying our Constitution and the Tenets that are supposed to keep us free. Kiss my ass.

      • Big Dad says:

        Right on Mike. I live free, work my ass off, pay my Tax,and do and go where I please.Yes California is becoming a big shithole, and believe me, writing letters, making phone calls, voting has done nothing for this problem. I have roots in Texas, Oregon and Kansas. The problem is I can’t make the money in any of those other fine places like I do in Ca. So if and when I do move,and the wife and I have started a plan to move, it will be wherever the Fuck I so choose….Praise God and pass the ammunition!

      • steve says:

        Well put Mike.

    • George Mason says:

      Hey, I am a white Christian conservative stuck in this state. I have done EVERYTHING I possibly can to combat this stupidity short of shooting politicians. If I need to flee then by God I will and you can suck it up.

      Now if you are only talking about liberal Californians then please, continue on.

    • joe says:

      It’s not the citizens, it’s the f–king government you moron.

      • Robert says:

        Then I suspect non-citizens voted for your government officials? If your dumpacraps can bus in votes you can also. Call Greyhound!!!

    • Okay, so let’s recap,

      Every city, every state, and every country that has intense gun control, ALSO has intense violent crimes rates.

      Cali, you already had that problem BEFORE you put ridiculous gun control in place.

      So, my question is, are you crazy?

      So what you’re saying, with all of the gangs, home invasions, robbery, rape, murder, etc going on in California, you think it’s SMART to restrict your average citizens firepower, if not revoke it entirely?

      You ladies and gents, have lost my vote. Period.

    • Eric says:

      How does any of this keep the guns away from the criminals. They already have the guns illegally so what makes you think any of this nonsense will change anything?

    • AirDragon says:

      Just remember Californians…”When seconds count, cops are only minutes away.”

    • Luther says:

      Listen you F$&#, Many of us have been fighting tooth and nail to protect our gun rights and hate every bit of this Liberal Hippie BS that’s ruining our state. I’ve been an outdoorsman all my life and come from a long line of hunters, miiltary and lawmen. Just know once bans start happening here, you’re next. And if I wanna move, I’m finding who YOU are, and moving next door, tough guy.

    • rob says:

      WAKE UP PEOPLE, WHEN WE TAKE THE GUNS FROM INNOCENT PEOPLE,THE ONLY ONES WHO WILL HAVE GUNS ARE THE CRIMINALS,HOW DO YOU PROTECT YOUR SELF THEN.DO YOU REALY THINK THAT ALL THE COPS ARE GOING TO COME RUNNING WHEN SO MANY PEOPLE ARE BEING ROBBED—-COME ON NOW

  2. what says:

    How are they getting away with this!!

    • Texas Grognard says:

      Simply, the people voted for these loons.

      • pop shot says:

        I sure as hell didn’t

  3. weaponkid says:

    once again California trying to have worse gun laws
    then DC

  4. meat popsicle says:

    I bet there will be no more gun crime in California. Haha!

  5. Josh C. says:

    Jeebus, just when you think it couldn’t get any crazier….

  6. Karen says:

    Think i want my own island away from any country’s control~ these people have lost their collective minds!!! :(

  7. Tyler Durden says:

    The gun and ammunition manufacturers need to handle this the same way that the tobacco companies should have handled the very first lawsuit from a state. Stop selling in California, period. Then cut the prices in half in all the neighboring states. Let’s see how they don’t like getting their tax money.

    • Bill says:

      I see brisk ammo sales in Nevada & Arizona in the near future.

    • Daniel says:

      that would be fantastic.

    • John says:

      No, what they need to do is not sell to law enforcement agencies. No more sales or service of firearms or ammunition to them. See, unfortunately, LEAs stay silent on gun control issues, or worse, they actually endorse them in the name of “officer safety.” Then, a LEO pulls you over and they hide behind the “I don’t make the law, I just enforce the law.” excuse. They say they’re afraid to speak up because they don’t want to lose their job…well, I don’t want to lose my rights, either, but the group that carries the most weight in these kids of discussion stays silent (as long as they’re exempted) and that’s exactly what happens. And people actually think cops will be on “our” side when SHTF…

    • Robert says:

      Would love to have all the gun and ammunition manufactures relocate their business to Tennessee from Cali. We could use more jobs here. Cali. don’t need jobs, they want to caudle their people and have their people dependant on the gov. Besides, America needs a place to send preditors. It would be like… enough food to keep them busy for awhile.

  8. Dark Space says:

    Not only is it making it harder for law abiding citizens, it is also making it harder for criminals – but this isn’t necessarily a good thing. Before this a criminal could theoretically steal a gun from someone, then buy ammo at WalMart. Now, he’s either going to get his girlfriend to do that, or he’s going to take the much easier path of stealing the ammo. That coupled with the fact that it is now even less attractive to own a gun for self-protection in CA, so its easier to violently attack citizens, is going to increase violent crime. I’m thankful I live on the opposite coast.

    • Levi Coulter says:

      Criminals will always find away. Don’t take guns away, take the person behind the gun away. Common sense…

    • pop shot says:

      Agreed COMPLETELY

  9. Texas Grognard says:

    I feel nothing for California, it gets what it deserves.

    • Karl says:

      California is run by Liberal Democrats, elected by the liberal majority in SanDiego [gays n illegals], LosAngeles [gays, pot smokers n illegals], SanFransisco [gays n pot smokers], Oakland [commies n welfare recipients] and Humboldt county [pot smokers n growers]], the rest of us find it difficult to compete [there are fewer of us due to constant re-districting].

      • Ayn Rand says:

        Don’t judge gays and pot growers/smokers. A lot of those people are libertarians. Some welfare recipients are truly down on their luck. As for the illegals and communists, I agree. They suck.

      • patriot says:

        How do you equate pot smoking and gays?
        Thats like comparing Karl and Marx….

        • scott says:

          Karl and Marx? You do realize that his name was karl marx. ease up on the weed..

      • Janey says:

        FYI, the gay community is often very pro-gun. Check out the Pink Pistols for example.

      • steve says:

        Karl people like you make it very hard for the rest of us living here with your bigoted opinion. I grew up in Humboldt county and don’t grow pot.I also have gay friends that carry guns that I trust with my life long before someone like you.I hope people don’t judge all of us because of statements like yours

  10. Johnny says:

    Your an idoit!

    • Matt says:

      No, YOU’RE an IDIOT. You should look into how to use spell check before questioning someone’s intelligence.

    • Brad27 says:

      Hahaha!

      • Moe omar says:

        Glad I don’t live in California. I left Chicago because it’s just like California and New York strict gun laws, the most homicides, full of danger, full of retarded politicians who care about no one but them selves, and the list goes on. Do you really think that limiting and individual’s right to bear arms is really going to stop criminals from getting their hands on any type of firearms from semi auto to full auto firearms criminals still have their ways to get them and no one can stop them not even a gun free zone could stop them and dont even expect for the police to stop them because you call them and all they will do is come pick up your body and make a report about the incident. Look at Chicago for example had the gun ban law from 1987 to 2010 and the homicide rate till now is out of hand from average 30 to 50 homicides a month alone obviously that didnt work with the gun ban law. Oh no lets blame the gun show loophole because thats where all criminals go shopping for their guns. No lets blame for not having universal background checks because if we do the world will be much safer because I forgot that criminals really care about their rights and really care about people’s safety. Lets blame all law abiding citizens for every crime because they are the evil doers. Oh he has an AK 15 with a 100 round magazine clip that has scary military looks and has switch buttons that go pow or pow pow pow. Those are assault rifles if someone like you has it but if you have a badge good job you got a defense weapon. ..seriously all you anti gun advocates are just retards and will never have the knowledge to knew the true definition of a firearm or what a magazine or clip means yet you claim to be smart oh this is a gun free house and we are proud of it if you would like to rob us go ahead because all we got is better knives pans that we can hurt you with. Lol I dont believe you need to be a Democrat to be against guns nor do you need to be a Republican to be with guns I believe its ahuman right to protect your self and others f4om harm and danger and if you choose to not protect your self then that’s your choice but dont go and try to ruin people’s rights because you believe they should be armless and dumb like you..I stand with the 2nd amendment and I believe no man or woman have any right to take that away from you. Thank you

        • diz says:

          I couldn’t have said it better myself! AMEN!

  11. r.c. says:

    move all the dems there and watch Cal. fall into the ocean with the BIG one..

  12. JAS says:

    IT sounds like it is time to start talking with your money. If you are a gun owner in California, get out. If you live elsewhere, do not support California economy. No more vacations there and no more purchasing anything from there. I would like to see every gun owner in America stop going to the movies, period. And tell the theaters why.

  13. shafer360@gmail.com says:

    i don’t know man how is this Constitution what part This new stuff would you not consider infringing on my right to keep and bear arms to defend

  14. shafer360@gmail.com says:

    Ya Spelling is the problem

  15. VoteTheLibsOUT says:

    This is what happens when the gun owners in Kalifornia don’t get off their butts and vote these anti-gun liberal asshats out of office. We consistently have LOW voter turnout and when sh!t like this gets shoved down our throats, they scream how unfair it is. It’s time gun owners in this F’ed up state take a stand and do something about our 2nd Amendment rights. Make those phone calls, send those letters and emails and VOTE these bastards out of office!

    • Ca"pro gun nut" says:

      It is difficult for anybody who could make a difference to get into office in California. The Dummycrats are constantly re-districting to get the votes in their favor. If that doesn’t seen to be working for them then they enlist with thevoting fraud. We can’t even have a simple local primary Without the libs registering in vacant homes or made up addresses and the Dems sweep those votes into their pile. We are trully screwed in this state, and anytime something. From here comes up a lot of our pro gun “brothers” lump us up as libs and tells us to stay away. Thanks for the warm welcome brothers.

  16. travis says:

    Thank God i got out of California 30yrs ago. and went to Texas!

    • J says:

      Thank God I was born, raised, have lived 48 yrs, have never left, and will hopefully die in Texas…couldnt have it any other way..

  17. CaliPsycho says:

    WHAT THE F#[K HAPPENED TO THE SECOND AMENDMENT IN CALIFORNIA?

    WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS, TOO, NOT JUST THE RICH MORONS WHO CAN AFFORD TO DROP AN EXTRA FIFTY DOLLARS EVERY TIME THEY WANT TO GO SHOOTING.

    WHY DON’T WE JUST BAN ALL OBJECTS? LAST TIME I CHECKED, OBJECTS ACCOUNTED FOR 100% OF ALL WEAPONS USED IN CRIMES WORLDWIDE.

    • CaliPsycho says:

      AND FVCX SENATOR LELAND LEE, TOO. HE’S A BXTCH.

  18. Shaun McMaster says:

    On what planet is this even in the realm of enforceable? You have to be a major idiot to believe for one second this garbage will work. And that is if it survives higher court appeals, which I kind of doubt.

    I am so glad I do not live in this nazi occupied state….

  19. Paul says:

    The whole north state is against this sort of thing but LA county alone out votes us. The illegals,pot smoker welfare bums, and the assholes in SF, Sacramento, and Laos Angeles all vote for the guy that is going to keep giving them freebies.
    Us poor working guys are screwed.

  20. behindenemylines says:

    I am trapped behind enemy lines here in kalifornia. I cant wait to move from here to some freedom. We are not all brain dead progressives.

    • Paul 17 says:

      Well Ca. has done it again, The people we voted in have not represented the people. They went and did what they wanted. I plan on doing all I can to get these TRAITORS voted out. A sad day for all the legal Gun owners. And open door to the thugs that don’t care about the law.

  21. crazyhorse says:

    Cant believe this, I grow up in military housing in California 3 years old 6 years old. sad with all the military in California they can’t have good gun laws in California they can’t have good gun control. However it does not surprise me with all the dumb asses my parents moved us back to Washington State get away from it. Californians head south not north. Too bad you let ur state go to shit.

  22. Gary says:

    Land of the free my ass

  23. Soon to be Happy Ex-Kalifornian says:

    WTF! I’m so glad I’m moving out of this state!

  24. AngryGook says:

    Cali is getting more stupid. I’m originally from SoCal and that is where my home is at but this sheet is getting out of control. I’m pro gun and currently residing in Denver due to work. I’ll be looking at TX as an alternative but will only come home to visit friends and family. Good bye Little Saigon, I will miss my people but my people will liberate that state once they understand what is going on. Govt can control the American media, CNN, FOX, etc but they cannot control ours. Do anything to our people, and they’ll get what’s coming to them. Mess with one grain of rice and you’ll get the whole patty! LOL

  25. Seal says:

    It’s sad that one of the most beautiful states in this country has to be one of the most socialist states. Guess The Constitution is just a recommendation for some people in power.

  26. GreenTip says:

    AngryGook:
    If everybody in your beloved homeland of “Little Saigon”, CA follow your lead, whom will be left to fight? You’re just gonna run and expect others to clean up the mess? How very…Californian of you. SW thing goes for everyone else looking to just give up and run.

    THIS STUFF IS NOT LAW YET! it can still be vetoed by the ratifying/signing entity, denied as unconstitutional by state courts, or just outright subverted by threatening out of state ammunition purchases which would threaten to close thousands of
    Busninesses and destroy this new stream of tax revenue the statebianteying to lump onto your backs. This tax which will be firmly placed on the backs of conservatives and conservative businesses. It’s economic warfare designed to crush liberal opposition by either over taxing people who can afford these rediculus penalties or causing people to just give up on protecting their rights. FIGHT BACK. Write,
    Call, picket, demonstrate against, annoy,irritate, interrupt, lobby,
    Mail, write to….if liberals are willing to give up wars and Responsabilities (looking at you Hillary!) when things get hard, imagine what happens when tey get PERSONALLY annoyed?

    • Debbie says:

      Ignorant

    • Jenn says:

      I totally understand and support leaving this downward spiraling craphole state. If enough working, taxpayers leave, there won’t be anyone to pay for all the welfare recipients and gov’t funded programs and the state will fail. We have tried speaking with our words and it is now time to speak with our feet and money and get the hell out. That in reality, is the only way to change anything here. Once the money (i.e. taxpayers)is gone, there will be nothing left to keep this state afloat.

  27. Drivebyposter says:

    California love it or leave it, I left in 68 and never looked back.

  28. vypr1 says:

    cool why sell drugs when we can trafic and sell ammo. they just bred a hole new criminal enterprise…!!!suckers!!!!

    • Robert says:

      Yup! Fast and Furious just found a new market!

  29. patriot says:

    doesnt surprise me at all.
    the Nimbies have been in most elective offices now in Cali for some time.
    This state has become the laughing stock of most Real Americans = law abiding, gun toting, NRA members.
    The rest of you are “sheeple” – incapable of
    defending yourself, your loved ones or your core beliefs.
    You deserve the guvmint you voted for.

    • Debbie says:

      You are not a patriot… You are the American Taliban.

      • Jenn says:

        Debbie-Patriot is right. The libs who vote these morons into office time and time again (hell Dianne Feinstein has been a Senator for more than half my life) deserve what they get with these laws and legislation. Those of us who vote conservative are simply outvoted. Once we all move out, the libs can have their state full of those unwilling to work for or defend their families. Let’s see how that goes.

  30. J says:

    Don’t like it, move to the Confederacy.

  31. Debbie says:

    I think this is great…if we can’t get background checks nationally then the state can do what it pleases.

  32. Thomas Paine says:

    Suck it up dickwads. Your day has come… and gone.

  33. Doug says:

    Good for California!! At least there is one smart state.

    • Jenn says:

      How is this smart? Why should all the guns in my home for the protection of my family (law abiding citizens mind you) now suddenly be illegal? Why should we have to pay $50 just to be able to buy ammo to go shooting at the range or for protection? This makes no sense. With the average police response up to an hour in our neighborhood (a nice neighborhood that happens to be just outside the city limits) what the hell are we supposed to do in case of a break in? Just lay down and die? Or pretend to vomit or piss ourselves like we have been advised by liberals? Or how about taking our shotgun outside on our patio and firing into the air like our VP advised (which is highly illegal and would land us in jail)? These new laws do nothing to prevent crime. They just leave families like mine (law abiding tax payers) vulnerable. Total BS. Good thing we are moving to a more gun friendly state next summer.

      • Jen says:

        Your guns will not be illegal. The reason these laws are necessary is that the gun community is not willing to stand up and self-regulate. We have relied on that for decades, and it has been an epic failure. You had your chance. 87 Americans dead from gunshots every single day is unacceptable. These laws will help reduce that number, and the cost to you will be nothing more than inconvenience. Don’t think gun makers will want to make guns with microstamping technology? You highly underestimate their desire for profit. And their ingenuity. They will do it, with barely a hiccup. The nature of any law is that it imposes limits on the law-abiding in order to catch the law-breakers. Name one law that doesn’t “punish” law-abiding citizens.

        • Jenn says:

          Um, how is it that my guns and those like the ones we own will not be illegal? Every one of ours is on their list of now illegal “assault weapons” or holds a detachable magazine that itself holds “too many rounds”. None of these laws will prevent any murders. NONE. The microstamping technology will not prevent any crime. The thing with the “gun community” (a term that makes no sense really) regulating itself is that the thugs out there committing the large majority of the crimes and those 87 gun murders daily are not part of our “community”. How can we regulate something that has nothing to do with our community? They steal their weapons or buy them illegally from some other POS who stole it and nothing in these laws will prevent that from happening. I should be able to own whatever type of gun I please. Plain and simple and the same goes for any other law abiding citizen who wants to own a gun. I sure as hell don’t want the gov’t (Fed or State) to know what I have in my house so they can come confiscate them when they see fit. Yep, I am one of those crazies who sees the tyranny in the current administration and the likelihood of tyranny in future Democrat/Socialist administrations. I would much rather myself and my family have the risk of danger but have liberty than have “safety” but no freedom. A free society cannot have both.

    • Robert says:

      Yea, more gun laws for the criminals to follow. They have followed all the other gun laws sooo well, Cali. has decided to make more. Hey Douggie, hows that working for you?! There should be NO gun crimes in Cali. in the near future and all the un-documented workers will become documented workers so they can support your state. By the way, hows that working for you again? “If ur gonna be dumb, u better be tough”
      BAZINGA!!!!! All Hail to Cuntessa Frankinstien!

  34. Peter says:

    California’s gun control is now a whole lot more strict than we have in Canada. Gun control is always bad news, I hate seeing it spread like this.

  35. Mike says:

    Don’t move here to Arizona. We’re just fine. Fight these fucktard state senators and demand action or pretty soon California is going to look like New York City in the movie Escape From New York lol

  36. Adam says:

    It’s funny that the Californians are looking to leave. We (pro gun californians) should be all gathering to do something about the absurd BS that’s taking place in our state.

    • Jenn says:

      There are plenty of reasons besides the absurd gun laws here to leave this state. Taxes, education, illegal immigration, lack of jobs, regulations everywhere you look, the list goes on and on. We are on our way out next year and can’t wait. The reasons to stay are so few (family and friends and Disneyland are the only reasons I can come up with) and they aren’t enough to keep my 4 children in this hell hole.

  37. Karl says:

    Well done California….And now when your violent crime and gun homicide rates soar skywards faster than the space shuttle you can only look to yourselves to blame.

  38. Sharon K. says:

    I am so sick & tired of ignorant people lumping ALL Californians as having the same beliefs – I have lived in Northern CA most of my life and have NEVER voted for any of these anti-gun liberal idiots. A lot of us are NOT getting what we deserve, no matter how we vote, but can’t afford to just pick up and leave – give us a break!!

  39. CApatriot says:

    I’ve got an idea. Impose a $50 fee every time you want to buy a 6-pack of beer. And of course any packs over 10 rounds(cans) will be banned. Also, any beer not rated “light” are reclassified as hard liquor, all of which are illegal. Anyone who receives 2 or more traffic tickets in one year are banned from purchasing any beer for 10 years.

  40. alec13 says:

    Hahaha look at the crybaby gunhuggers. LOSERS!

    • shane says:

      im gonna use you as a shield when the war starts so dont even think that you are going to be getting any protection from me or my guns! i hope youre fat

    • mosesfries says:

      eat some penis alex,.

    • Jenn says:

      Why the name calling? I find it funny how liberals are always the first resort to name calling. We have guns in our home for self defense since our middle class neighborhood happens to be just outside of town with the average police response time of 1+ hrs and break-ins happening every couple months (many times when the owners were home). Please tell me how this makes us “losers”?

    • Robert says:

      Well hello alec13. I am one of those crybaby gunhuggers. I cry… when I think of those who have died or have been injured defending MY constitution. I cry… when I think of those in countries that can’t defend themselves because their governments keep them unarmed so they can treat them the way they want to with NO remorse. I cry… when I think of those in countries that depend on their government to protect them, but are slautered, men, women and children. I cry…when I hear a dumpacrap agree to more gun control because they are to ignorant to see what is happening to the most presious constitution in the world. When I don’t cry…when I create that gorgeous pink spray behind the crimminals head that threatens my family and friends or tries to take my weapons. YES, I most certainly am a CRYBABY GUNHUGGER, thank you for pointing that out!

  41. Randy Riddle says:

    I see it is finally time for me to move out of California. With all the STUPID rules that they have passed concerning the care of Minors and now this ABSOLUTELY ABSURD piece of regulation.
    I don’t understand some peoples thinking.
    It should be stiffer penalties for people that use a gun in the commission of a crime. NOT REGULATING THE FRIGGIN WEAPONS! I just cannot stand stupidity, especially in the people that are supposed to be the ones looking after our concerns.

  42. domaome says:

    I bet ammo sales will drop to nothing in Case. and go crazy in nv and az. California is for commies.

  43. locks vegas says:

    As a CT resident currently dealing with new gun law BS. I feel bad knowing that CA crime rate will go up, mostly gun crimes .. because people wont be able to defend them selves. …. and yes gun crimes have already skyrocketed in our state

    • steve says:

      Sad, Since states like California and Conneticut pass these facist type laws and as you say gun crime has now increased. They will surely blame it on the other states for having too laxed gun laws, and not on their own stupidity.

    • mosesfries says:

      tell ya what,the first family that was a prior gun owner,and gets mugged or injured/killed in a home invasion, should sue the piss out of the state of kalifornia,..for unconstitutionaly limiting their rights to self protection….that will show them what happens when they ignore the rights granted to Americans in our constitution,bill of rights,and federalist papers,….we need to vote ALL democraps out of office,..they are destroying America as we know it (knew it :( )

  44. joe says:

    Liberals, stay the hell out of Texas….we dont want you here, we dont need you here. You wanted liberal ideology, you got it. W

  45. Thomas Jefferson. says:

    This is an open letter to all whom it may concern. The increasingly usurpatious actions by this government tread upon all of us. For too long has corporate interests and foreign investors tied with corrupt politicians ruled this land. My friends this is no longer a government for the people by the people. Our once great republic is now in shambles due to the greedy and self serving career politicians. They use socialist rhetoric gain mass appeal to those whom are uninformed and apathetic to the reality around them, how ever follow through on none of their campaign promises. everything sounds good in theory but never is practiced. when was the last in your memory that a politician followed through with one of their campian promises? A decade if not more….
    In 2008 now president Obama ran on the platform of ending the wars, tax reform, repealing the fascist Patriot act, stopping drone strikes against innocent civilians and closing Guantanamo bay to name a few. How many of those are realities? none that im aware of. In fact he has expanded all of those things to a measure beyond bushes dreams. Yet the majority of you voted for him, again. He blames Congress, They blame Obama Its the same shell game, they are all playing by the same rules and serve the same corporate masters. Yet you all still stand in line, you still nod your head…i don’t blame you, the media is the governments lap dog. you have chosen the path of least resistance and accept being spoon fed, this is not your fault. for a long time now you have been conditioned to passively accept all provisions and increasingly draconian measures passed by this government. You were tought not to question authority…well my friends i say it is time to question our masters.
    We our human beings and therefor we posses certain unalienable rights. Those are life, liberty, and property. This government, which may i remind you was exclusively founded upon those simple principles, is currently depriving us of those rights. Our constitution gauentees us the right to due process yet now as per recent laws passed through congress and approved via the presidents, allows for black clad homeland security agents to take you away in the middle of the night with no warrant, no just cause, all under the guise of national security… remember folks, they serve YOU! …why is it you think this government has been after firearms regulation? They don’t want an armed populous capable of organized armed resistance. They want obedient workers just smart enough to run the machines and dumb enough to just passively accept all of the increasingly fascist policy’s encumbered upon them.
    I laugh when people state that the president or our so called representatives are communists or socialists…no my friends this is not the case. Communism or Socialism at this point is a step in the right direction, no these people currently in power are no more communist than Stalin, Mao, or Kin Jon ill. All of the worlds dictators and our current batch of tyrants are opportunists. They use rhetoric, pandering, and your plain apathy to their advantage. They are bleeding this nation dry and lining their Swiss bank accounts in the process.
    Obama has stated many times that he shall rise taxes on the rich. This is clearly not the case. His administration has givin more breaks to corporations, wall street, and the upper 1% than any other president in recent history. Albeit only select corporations with strong lobby’s honest good company’s are punished on a regular basis. This government has also expanded entitlement programs aimed at the lower classes, creating a large apathetic uniformed voting block, all at the cost of the middle class.
    Why do you ask? Because my fellow Americans revolutions are incited by the rich and fought by the poor. Past governments when in severe debt tax the rich as a source or quick income. And due to the fact that the rich are typically the most influential members of society and wish not to be burdened and inconvenienced by taxes they rally the poor to fight their cause. This government has done well to learn well from history and instead is exploiting the middle class as a cash cow. This is safer as the middle class is more likely to put up with such matters as they are more concerned with their careers and their children, they are less likely to rise in protest. Well my friends i saw enough is enough. Governments are to fear the people, not the people fear their government. I advocate a new government to be created, to better suit the people. For Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
    It is time to remind those who enjoy a lavish life on our dime who truly is in control of this land.
    I advocate full and outright revolution! Arise thy masses for the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. Arm your self’s Organize! resist the puppet masters and take back what is yours, Your God givin Natural Rights!

  46. Tikus66 says:

    Funny how the arguments against all of these bills sound a whole lot like the arguments against other back-door laws from the “pro-lifers” intent on ridding the land of any access to abortion. The same tactics are at work here. What’s good for the goose is also good for the gander. Besides, just like the pro-lifers, the intent is to save lives. Quit whining.

    • mosesfries says:

      imbecile!…taking guns from law abiding citizens will increase violent crime and gun homocides,only the criminals will not comply,and it will be “open season” on homes,and families,…home invasions burglery,and armed robbery will skyrocket,….watch and see (or read it and weep)

      • Jenn says:

        mosesfries-You are indeed correct.

  47. WDLEradio says:

    “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” – Thomas Jefferson

  48. RDStone says:

    Your “law abiding citizen” argument goes out the window if you don’t abide by all the laws, including the new laws. You have options, comply, go to jail or leave with your assault weapons.

    • Jenn says:

      So, basically a “law abiding citizen” is suddenly a criminal the moment these laws go into effect? Why is it that we have to pay the price (monetarily and personally) so that these laws can be put in place simply to disarm the people under the guise of “safety”? None of the laws here will do anything to prevent violent crime. The guns they consider “assault weapons” are only called that because of cosmetic features. Because they LOOK scary. They aren’t full auto and fire multiple rounds per trigger pull. They fire one shot per pull. Making a 10 round magazine illegal is really not going to do anything. I can drop a magazine and reload pretty fast and I am sure most criminals can to so I don’t see how law is going to prevent any crime. Anyways, my tax paying family IS moving and taking our money to another state. I am sure Cali will be in a great place financially when the “law abiding”, tax paying, gun owners all pack up and take their money elsewhere. Who will pay for the hundreds of frivolous programs this once great state offers?

  49. Joseph Patterson says:

    This law may be somewhat annoying to law-abiding gun owners, but it is a small price to pay, if it prevents even one murder by a criminal or mental defective. Please, people, be willing to compromise with those who want to protect their family members from the REAL gun nuts, the lawless and deranged.

    • Jenn says:

      None of these proposals will prevent crimes. All they are aimed to do is be another step in disarming the citizens. They say they are for safety but that is not the case. How will any of the laws listed above going to prevent a criminal or crazy from stealing or otherwise acquiring a gun? If someone is willing to kill someone with a gun, what will stop them from being willing to steal one? If someone is willing to commit murder, they are most likely willing to commit other lesser crimes as well. I should not as a human being have to turn in my guns and then spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars to replace them with weapons Dianne Feinstein and her friends think are “safe” enough and then spend extra money to get approved to buy ammo. Luckily, my husband makes our ammo, so we won’t be affected by that last one, but nobody should. I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery any day.

  50. shawn says:

    Unconstitutional…This will get overturned give it time. The real Americans will file suit against it. 1st stop the illegal immigration. That’s how you keep getting Dumbassocrats voted in, remember 86. Borders aren’t patroled like it was promised and welfare needs to be cut as well. No money for them and no medical treatment they will stop coming here. My dad lived in california in the late 60s and died there in 2010. His exact words were to go back to Louisiana and stay there. This state is gone to junk, its now for the hoodlums and the queers. As I can see he was right

  51. hobbz says:

    Thank God I live in Alaska.. the last lib douche bag that came up here to tell us all fish had feelings still hasn’t been found. Besides.. it’s to Damn hot in Texas :P

  52. Gomez says:

    It is time for the shooters of Kalifornia to learn to reload ammunition. You can buy a heck of a lot of powder, bullets and cases for $50 bucks… The liberal loons want to disarm us and they are doing it one step at a time. If all gun owners got off their lazy rears and voted, perhaps this stupidity would stop. As long as you allow the minority of loons to run things, you get what you deserve.

    • Jenn says:

      Been doing both those things for years. Thanks.

  53. Joe says:

    Wow! This is great news for criminals in California that specialize in armed invasions of homes. The State is making it much safer for them to continue their work by providing a supply of unarmed citizens!

  54. Craig Darrell says:

    One state shows the good sense to pass long overdue gun control laws and every redneck is up in arms (yes sadly they let these idiots own them) crying like the shit scared retarded little bitches they are. The only need for assault weapons and large capacity magazines is to defend yourself from a fully armed militia/army. Well fuckos got some news for you. If the government had any plans to round you lot up and guns could help durrr THEY WOULDN’T LET YOU HAVE THEM IF THEY WERE SCARED OF THEM. If the government moves against you they aren’t coming with guns, they are coming with Apache longbows with vulcan cannons that can shoot you from a mile away, or more likely they will use biological/chemical weaponry weapons. So all your little dick compensaters aren’t doing shit except making it more dangerous for those around you. It is so easy to buy weapons but all you redneck dumb bastards aren’t satisfied. You are like spoilt brats whose daddy won’t let them have the latest toy. Every argument you guys have is just shit (I know, I’ve heard them all, and having a far higher I.Q. than 94% of you I understand them better too). Be happy you got what guns you have and stop fucking bleating every time someone tries to make your country a safer fucking place.

    • Jenn says:

      Hey there. We aren’t all rednecks. Most of us are well educated, middle class, tax paying, citizens. Thanks, though.

      Oh, and by the way 10 rounds in a magazine is no way in actuality “large capacity”. Also, an “assault weapon” simply describes the “scary” cosmetic feature of a basic, semi automatic (i.e. shoots one round per trigger pull, automatically ejects the casing and chambers a new round) rifle. It doesn’t actually fire multiple rounds with one pull like a full auto weapon.

      • Enter your name... says:

        liberals are purse scum..they take your money and your rights away they are socialists and scumbags. .every state they run unto the ground and this country will become a 3rd world nation with the liberal scum in charge

    • steve says:

      Craig Darrell you sound like so many people that I’m seen over the years. You talk tuff, call people names all the while hiding behind your computor.I’ll bet you had your milk money taken away from you, your whole life.Stating your IQ tells me your one dumb motherf—er.

  55. FUKCA. says:

    THIS IS NOW THE #1 WORST STATE IN THE USA ,NYC #2
    FEINSTEIN IS A TRAITOR IN THE WORST WAY POSABLE
    SHE SOULD BE IN JAIL

  56. caveman says:

    I understand not all from California are the same I have family in southern California and I’m sure their neighbors and friends have had heart attacks and strokes since they have trained my nieces to be proficient in all varieties of firearms. But I do believe there is more that could be done to curb the insanity. Protest get loud make them hear you. And for those of you that want wanting yo get away from the whack job liberals you are welcome to Washington and I’m sure Oregon. We could use more people to counter balance the liberals( yes I understand there are moderates but they’re a minority in California too)

  57. mercenarygrip says:

    I am 3rd generation Californian. I’ve lived here all my life. I raised a family, and watched all four of my children grow into responsible adults. I’ve also watched this state go from a wonderful place to live, to some sort of over taxed, over regulated hell. Most of this has been caused by people who moved here from other states. NO ONE who has a brain, and lived here during the 1970s would have voted for Jerry Brown as Governor. Back then, 75% of the cars had a “If It’s Brown…Flush It” bumper sticker, so I doubt they would have changed their minds. I’m sad to say that this is the proverbial “straw that broke the camel’s back.” I just can’t see staying in a State that has no regard for the Constitution, not to mention taxes the hell out of my now fixed income. I don’t know where my wife & I will be moving, but we will be moving. I need to get back to the good old U.S. of A, and out of the People’s Republic of California. The Libtards have won here, the battle is lost. It’s sad.

    • john says:

      I feel your pain mercenarygrip. I have really deep roots in the state going back to 1849. Like you I’ve watched this state just spiral into this mess…

  58. john says:

    Any Californian with a brain will STOP VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS. Any Californian with a brain will be sure to be registered and will VOTE AGAINST EVERY DEMOCRAT running for any office including dog catcher.

  59. grayfox114 says:

    I don’t live in Kalif, I moved some time back because of all the libtards and their laws, but this shit is over the top……I hope all the conservative(working) people leave that state and let it rot in in it’s own juices. Maybe when this happens, the f’n morons that are passing this crap will lose their jobs, NOT of course. But when they have to take entitlements to support and run the state, someone will take notice…

  60. Guy Foxwell says:

    If military service were mandatory for all able bodied citizens, none of this anti-gun crap would fly. This whole charade is about disarming the U. s. citizen thereby reducing the chance of armed resistance to outlandish government intervention shush as we are seeing in other countries. Do not submit.

  61. Martin says:

    Yep- this seals it. Commiefornians are seriously stupid.
    Keep your anti gun selves in California and wait for the next riot to break out.
    Funny thing here is that the cities/states with the strictest gun control regulations seem to be the places where more of you idiots are killed by them.
    Tell me again how “unsafe” my home is because I own firearms, and I will point to the LA riots and your inexcusable lack of response as members of the community….
    Haven’t ever seen a riot in the great state of Texas- oh yeah- that’s because we haven’t given up our rights like you sheep.

  62. Chris says:

    They might as well just shut the state down! This is stupid beyond belief. I am so tired of hearing this crap about guns and ammo. Not everyone is going to go on a shooting spree. Go ahead and take away guns and then the idiots can bomb people or shoot with bows or knife them! you will never stop people from killing others, unless of course you nuke the entire country!

  63. Freedom. says:

    Having a firearm saved my life and the life of my family. If you don’t want to have a firearm to protect yourself then that’s fine. But don’t force your views on those who believe in their rights. Go ahead and move to England where they don’t have firearms rights and their criminals will welcome you with open bags to take your belongings.
    I’ve written letters, walked with signs in front of our government building asking for them to protect our rights. Now. Thankfully. I will have a place to move to when these Hollywood libs invite more cartels into California.
    I don’t wish harm to anyone. But I do wish these people would have their eyes opened once and for all, to realize criminals break laws, and law abiding citizens pay the price. I have a firearm. It saved my life. When the police arrived an hour and seventeen minutes after we dialed them, they took the criminal to jail. I didn’t need to kill anyone, but had I not had my firearm I would’ve been murdered, and most likely my family would’ve been too. So until you realize you don’t stop criminals by begging for your life you won’t understand that your rights as a citizen to protect yourself are what keep you from being the next victim.

  64. Hicky says:

    The control freaks who run california simply ignored the mass of people who complained about their fascist anti-liberty policies. You see, the self-proclaimed elitists who run the state government only care about destroying your rights, taking your money, and controlling you. Sadly, most Californians are total pussies and want a nanny in government telling them how to eat, walk, sleep, work, and masturbate. On top of that they destroyed the state economy and these fucking twats keep voting these people into office because they really do want an all encompassing nanny state no matter how incompetent. Bunch of of losers in CA, plain and simple.

  65. BILL H. says:

    I have heard that California is going to fall into the ocean…..wish it would hurry up

  66. David says:

    I don’t even like to visit the place. Why would anyone want to live there? Your taxed to death on every little thing and now this crap comes up. Don’t they think people are smart enough to get in their cars and drive to another state to buy their ammo? And I wouldn’t register jack nothing with those moron’s because the first chance they got they would be at your house confiscating your firearm.

  67. xteeth says:

    There is nothing in the 2nd ammendment that allows any citizen to own a firearm. It says “keep” and “bear.” I think, since you seem to want to stick to the text of the Constitution, that only the government should be allowed to own firearms and it can provide them to whomsoever it pleases. Namely the police and the military. If you want to press the textual argument, give up your weapons.

    • Netsurfer2 says:

      Did you forget the intent of what it means? Since most already owned guns during that time, it did not suggest that you did not have the right to own a gun and/or even use a gun! Remember that most were minute men in the beginning of the revolutionary war, who already had their own guns and defended the United States of America back then! Did you forget your history? Did a coconut fall off of the tree you were standing under? Utopia is not going to happen in this day and age, especially now that the economy is in shambles, businesses are only hiring part time because of Obama Care and people are coming to America in droves! By the way, Socialist Communism is your end goal, not mine! When things fall apart and it gets very violent with your gang groups, maybe you will think twice???

  68. Paperdog. says:

    Re-affirming why I left California and will never look back… Seriously , how do you feckers sleep at night knowing what a bunch of nazis you (Californian leadership) all are…

  69. Chuck says:

    It looks like I will have to go to Nevada or arizona to buy ammo and guns from now on…

  70. Maudycross says:

    If everyone who felt threatened by NOT having guns went to Australia, where 88% of the people do not have guns, they might feel safe and be relieved of their paranoia about gun ownership.

  71. Freedom_gut says:

    Yes good old California, where hard work is looked on as bad and laziness is awarded. I smell allot of lawsuits coming with this all this rammed thru legislation. You can’t just ban something that some already owns and just say you have to turn them in. I love how they called all these b/s laws a life package!

  72. Todd says:

    Why is it everybody I meet from California is on welfare or disabled. Great state you have there. Been there once, miserable place.

  73. Netsurfer2 says:

    I live in Washington State and its full of liberals here! There are some conservatives like myself,but the laws are getting even more ridiculous as time goes! For instance you cannot even have a loaded magazine in your car for any reason, but if you have a CC Permit you can on your person in the car or even in your handgun! I have an AR-15 DPMS Panther 5.56 with eight 30 round magazine clips, but they are trying to limit magazine clips and even assault rifles! If they do such I will be leaving the state as an Aerospace Mechanical Design Engineer and taking my skills to another good state where people are more free without liberals who impose restrictions on gun rights!

  74. Joel G says:

    I just turned down another job in California for this reason. Having grown up in California, I really hated to do it because I love the state, but I’m not willing to give up my firearms either. I think it’s irresponsible to allow the government to take away our ability to fight back against a hostile government. Just because it hasn’t happened in the past 230+ years doesn’t mean it won’t happen in the future. In fact given enough time, we will have a dangerous and corrupt government. It’s virtually certain. I’m sure that’s viewed as “crazy”, but the odds are not in out favor (and our founders must have been crazy too since the 2nd amendment was written for this very reason). What will we do then, throw rocks. Some lives are lost by guns (most sources either over estimate or under estimate the number), but making selected firearms illegal is not going to make a difference. Banning firearms completely will impact gun deaths (not necessarily violent deaths), but it will absolutely seal our fate when we really do need them to protect our freedom. Please be aware of what you’re throwing away when you fight for gun control.

  75. ThewildBull says:

    Heres the deal. I work Extreme hours to provide for my family. I Pay taxes, I have a morgage. I deal with the threat that when I reach retirement all that Ive paid into social security will be gone to illegals and those who the government thinks earned it more then I did even though they never worked a day in thier life. I stand my ground when it comes to defending my property and my family. One of the few enjoyments I get out of life is going to the range and making some tin cans dance. Ive done it since i was a kid. And i would love to go on a great whitetail hunt, but im so busy working to pay for everyone else that i cant even afford the plane tickets let alone the hunt. How many guns I have is none of your buisiness! I dont condemn your retarded golf clubs, or want to ban your sports games on tv. Leave the whole thing alone if you dont like guns- period. If someone went into a store with a golf club and beat a clerk to death it wouldnt be the golf clubs fault would it?? Has the intellegence of the people and the government really gotten that retarded as to think guns are the problem? Are you anti gun fruitcakes really telling us that we have no right to own firearms of our choice? Did you ride the short bus?? Ted nugent stands up for his rights and beliefs and you call him a bad nieighbor? Really? i have no doubt about Ted nugents intellegence, but I have many concerns about yours and the people who think like you. Gun control isnt the issue and it never was. I am so sick of all the gun bashing, Smarten up, get a life, Or whatever will get you all to pull your heads out of your back sides. Go back to your tofu, your yoga, and your bicycles. Leave me Alone, leave my freedoms alone, leave my heritage alone, leave my guns alone. enough is enough.

  76. mkw says:

    Blah! Blah! Blah! Arguing is pointless! California is a lost cause. Which is why I moved to Arizona 17 years ago. 2 years ago we went from ‘shall issue’ CCW to constitutional carry. According to state and federal stats., the city I live in (Mesa), enjoyed its lowest overall crime rate in 50 years. No, that is NOT a typo. The lowest overall crime rate, both violent and property, since 1963. I think maybe I made a good choice. Must admit, I miss L.A……………the way it was 50 years ago!

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