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California to Ban all Semi-Automatic Guns, Confiscate Firearms and Limit Ammo Sales

ar15California legislators are in the process of rolling out what will be the strictest gun control laws in the country. Democrat state Legislatures rolled out a list of proposals that will instantly criminalize most of the state’s law abiding gun owners.

The new law would outlaw all semiautomatic weapons, criminalize anyone who has more than 500 rounds of ammo, and require a permit to buy ammunition in the future. California, which already has some of the strictest gun control laws in the country, is also looking at a proposal which would call for the immediate confiscation of 166,000 registered modern sporting rifles. This is why people are against Registration!

Darrell Steinberg, D-Sacramento, unveiled the gun control package in a news conference Thursday at the state Capitol.

The package includes:

  • Banning the possession — not just manufacture and sale — of magazines holding more than 10 rounds.
  • Making possession of hollow point bullets and similar “assault bullets” a felony.
  • Requiring anyone wishing to buy ammunition to first get a permit by passing a background check.
  • Requiring the registration and reporting of all ammo purchases. Limits the number of rounds anyone can have at one time to 500 rounds.
  • Requiring all gun owners will have to be licensed like drivers, and will be forced to carry gun liability insurance.
  • Banning any gun that has a detachable magazine, and requires a 100% prohibition of all fixed magazines greater than 10 rounds.
  • Making all previous grandfathered magazines become illegal, and it will become a felony if you keep one.
  • Prohibiting anyone barred from owning a weapon from living in a home where weapons are kept
  • Expanding the list of crimes that would bar a person from gun possession.
  • Letting the state Justice Department use money from the state’s Dealer’s Record of Sale system to eliminate the backlog of people identified as no longer allowed to own guns but not yet investigated and contacted by law enforcement.

469 Comments on California to Ban all Semi-Automatic Guns, Confiscate Firearms and Limit Ammo Sales

  1. Paul Desroches

    from what I’ve seen on the news the people doing the shootings have some kind of a mental problem. I think Cal. is way overboard and going in the wrong direction.

    • ayemossum

      Sacramento politicians have some kind of mental problem, same as the mass-shooters.

      • ammodepo

        i have many remedies for mental illness they all move really fast just how politicians like in fast to the point and bad for you

      • PRK Escapee

        That mental illness is called “Liberalism”.

        • Ray Burke

          That mental illness is called Obama !!!

          • Serfdom

            Seems to me, a targeted approach to gun violence would be to ban liberal progressive democrats from owning firearms. All of these psychos fall within this category. I seriously can’t understand why anyone lives in this state.

          • Dan Jewell

            If your theory were accurate than this mental illness afflicted Reagan and Bush 1. Bush 1 renounced his NRA membership and supported Clintons ban along with Ronnie the great. You have only yourselves to blame.

          • zometimer

            Wayne LaPierre and Ronald Reagan initiated the last weapons ban that exists today.
            Please check your facts.

          • Qassdr

            Call Obama what you will… this country just let him take complete control.

          • Retired Marine

            There should be a ban on liberals…. being a liberal should be an immediate felony

          • Leon Rivkin

            Obama is simptom of this ilness

            Liberalism is mental illnes

          • Randy Joyce

            Vote the sorry bastards out of office, I bet there guards won’t give up there, low life bastards, Somebody needs to stick a gun up his ass and put a gun in his hands and tell him to call the police or pull the trigger, This is not the constitution at all. These people are complete idiots…..

          • ray guise

            ray burke are you the archery from Univ of long beach in the 70’s if so this is ray guise been looking form you for years. if not sorry but if you stay there these socalled political people will tear you down get out asap.

        • williamwallace

          I agree, and the same laws they try to shove down our throats they get as well. And not one time did the liberal media call the weapon used to shoot two women in a “truck that looked like Dorner’s” an assault rifle. And “who needs training” , if you as a civilian have a negligent discharge you are in big trouble, what is wrong with this picture

          • 3rd world

            don’t you ever ask yourself how in a 2 months there was so much mass shootings and why they are trying to give you gun control laws so fast? don’t give them your guns.. they will make you slaves..

        • tutunene

          That mental illness is called Progressive-ism. Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to own cars.

          • Saneone

            Two points for you!!! Best analogy I’ve heard in a while

          • JFerderer

            Amen!

          • Arnold

            It’s like a FB picture i saw that says we don’t need firearms because we have the Police is like saying we don’t need fire extinguishers because we have the Fire Department

          • skydive

            I will be using your analogy often. Great

          • Enter your name...

            Well put my friend, I may have.to use that analogy from now on.

        • ShawnS

          No its called the top 5% trying to protect us from ourselves. They should just get up a bubble to live in. It has nothing to do with Liberalism. They use Liberalism to get elected but they really do not live by the word. They are selfish assholes.

      • Chris

        Yeah they are all Left wing freedom hating, anti christian Nut cases

        • Cori

          Republicans refuse any law that helps the needy, those that stockpile weapons tend to be registered Republicans and conservatives are constantly trying to remove the freedoms of anyone that doesn’t live under the life code that they, themselves dictate. And you call liberals anti-christian, freedom hating, nut cases?? Jesus would never vote Republican. They go against everything dictated in the bible to help others! You’re a flippin’ idiot! Ha ha

          • Tom

            conservatives are the only ones trying to stay free not regulate social engineering. And Jesus wouldn’t vote for either party. The only party promoting anything against religion is the liberal Democrat party. ACA! And by calling others names it really supports your interpretation of the bible or christian views. Nice work.

          • Scott Brewer

            Hey Cori you know scripture says if you dont work you dont eat!2nd Thessalonians 3:10.My own opinion but the Bible believes in taking care of the widow and orphan not lazy people!King Solomon was very harsh on lazy people in Proverbs and I can see why!

          • I

            republicans don’t refuse to help the needy. They refuse to continuously give money to people that are too lazy to get up off their butt and get a job. I grew up poor and my family used government aid as a hand-up (which is what it was designed to do) and not a hand out. Now my parents and several family members have stable jobs and hasn’t been sucking off the tit of the government like all these Obama loving fools.

          • Gene

            So Cori, which gov. Assistance program do you get.

          • Drenman

            You’re both doing a great job of killing this country. Liberals, Conservatives, Democricans, Republicrats, you are fighting over a sinking ship, instead of patching the holes and bailing water. I am SO sick of it.

          • J Galt

            Like murdering babies like you liberals. You and your friends are in for a hot rude awakening when you die. Conservatives are much more charitable than liberals. Liberals call government theft , charity, taxation is theft.

          • Robert

            Cori,
            Name one liberal policy, aspiration du jour, or law that has resulted in the betterment of our country, state, or the world for that matter. Gun control being only one. I will rebut every one for you.

          • Jason

            Poor Cori you also flunked Bible study or your a fool

          • Paul

            It doesn’t matter if you are Republican or Democrat, it’s our right! Read the 2nd Ammendment!!! The last time I checked…….I am American! “No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government”

            — Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

          • Terry

            Cory are you a idiot. Republicans are not passing laws because the democrats are trying to take are rights away like the NDAA treaty or how about the CRPD Treaty. Did you now that every Democrat voted to take my rights a parent away from my child under the CRPD Treaty and give that right to the U.N. And that the U.N. has all rights under the supremacy clause and that no state or federal judge can over turn their decision. Why would I support/ or anyone one in this great nation support a party to take your rights away. With that it sounds like you are not educated on are government and what they are doing to us. They don’t care because they done have to follow the same laws they right there own. Then crap on us. That’s way there medical insurance is different than Obamacare. Educate your self before comparing these things to the bible.

          • Greggers

            Cori, I’ll bet 10 gazillion dollars republicans donate more money to charitable causes than democrats do.

          • Marcus

            Cori, Learn to read. More importantly learn history. The Republican’s were the ones (under President Lincoln) who were responsible for the start of equality of all men (13th amendment). The Democrats were the ones trying to stop it. The fact is in the last five years the democratic party has done more damage to this country than any external enemy could.

      • Stormy

        And yet, somehow the mentally ill don’t even make up 1/111119th of the murderers in the USA. By world standards….45 of the worlds top 50 most dangerous cities is in the USA. If Murders go by the way of the mentally ill….Washington DC must be chocked full of them. How ’bout the government lead by cleaning their own city before trying to play nation builders. DC leads the nation in almost every statistic violent crime wise.

        • Mac

          Stormy, you are right. DC is full of mentally ill people. The proof of that is a congress crazy enough to think that banning an inanimate object will stop the violence that PEOPLE do. California needs to stop perpetuating a lie. The term “assault weapon” is a term coined by the media. The only true assault weapon is a fully automatic one or one that fires an explosive projectile. None of which are available to the general public. Either they need to pass legislation that requires the police to protect the people (right now the police have no duty to do so according to the Supreme Court) or the need sweeping reform of the mental health care industry. I also think that they should start trying to fix their economy (they have been basically bankrupt for years) and maybe create some jobs. Stop trying to love the bad stuff out of criminals and start locking people up and try to reform them. The problem is that all of these things are hard and would actually require them to think and do some work.

        • nicholas

          And DC already has some of the most strict gun laws in the country. So guess what? Only oulaws have them…

        • adogparks

          this is absolutely wrong…”Four US cities – New Orleans (21), Detroit (30), St Louis (43) and Baltimore (48) were on the list.”–http://www.globalpost.com/photo-galleries/5722155/top-10-most-dangerous-cities-the-world
          Maybe try fact checking once in a while to backup your wildly erroneous claims. DC wasn’t even on the list. Not to mention that those socialist europeans weren’t either. i guess for you, knowledge comes ‘from the gut’–http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7FTF4Oz4dI

          • Johann

            Facts to a liberal are like Kryptonite to Superman.
            -Larry Elder

          • tieron

            @adogparks, I went to the website you posted and it gave no facts or referrences to sources. DC did come in 21st of most dangerous cities in the U.S. as per http://www.businessinsider.com/the-25-most-dangerous-cities-in-america-2012-10?op=1 Stockton, CA came in 10th, Oakland came in 4th, and the two cities that made the top two were both in Michigan. This site gives names of sources as to thier findings.

        • mark

          Washington D.C. strict gun control law biding people cant have guns but the criminal will always have guns there trying to take our guns so when the economy totally takes a crap we wont shoot em up they are already rearing up with home land security bull shit thats just to take us out. be ready people revolution is coming this gun grabbing is just the start!!

        • aj

          DC is full of them. Even has their president.

      • Dean

        True That!

      • ARIZONA

        DO any of you have a deep underground bunker??NO,well all the politicans DO!!! and a tram system across the entire usa,do they know about the pending russian invasion??YES,so what about YOU???YES the whole country is about to be involved in a nuclear war and the government knows it too,if you have not been getting ready,well your leaving this world soon,unless your young,and in that case you’ll probly wind up in a slave camp in china…………

      • James

        They think this way because their brains are fried from habitual drug use. Why do you think being a hippy was considered a social ill?

    • Jack C. Ivy

      Why do you think it is called The Socialist Republic of Kalifornia. It would serve them right if ALL the working conservatives left the state. It would also help if EVERYONE would boycott any and all TVand movies made in that state. I do not order anything from any company in Kalifornia and I will never enter that state for any reason

      • Me

        And yet you probably still buy crap made in China. What a tool!

        • jeff

          I don’t buy from Califonia, Chicago, or China.Tool.

          • Jay

            If you buy cheese or own a toaster, you have bought from California. Not sayin’, just sayin’.

            But I try to avoid buying foreign as best I can as well.

          • Jay

            EDIT* California and China

          • Bond

            @Jay– More cheese comes from Wisconsin then Cali. Just because you see all those commercials saying that Cali makes happy cows, don’t buy into it. That’s why Wisconsin is called “America’s Dairyland” and that was a LONG time before Cali tried to take that away from them.

      • John

        Why do you not buy from California? It’s the government making all these laws that punish the people that live in this horrible state. So people from other states should punish the PEOPLE of California as well? Asshole.

        • MalcontenyElder

          The tyrannical government of Kommiefornia derives it’s funding by the taxes they collect. While it’s unfortunate to hurt the businesses and citizens financially, they have the option of moving, just like I’m doing as I type this. The Kommiefornia government must remain within it’s borders.

        • ARIZONA

          JOHN,I had a friend who owned a little company in sacramento,then the government wouldn’t renew his lease,so he fired all 175 of his employees and moved out of california,they told him they only wanted green jobs in california…………………

        • Retired Marine

          Yes, it is the politicians… but it is the PEOPLE of California that keep electing them….

          • Johann

            Which is why no one should feel bad about boycotting Ca. If the people suffer as well, so be it. It is, ultimately, their own fault. Left that stink hole years ago and haven’t been back!

          • Frank H

            Was born and raised in California. Became a touring musician, and therefore saw some of the rest of trhe world. Left the arm-pit and crotch of the United States in 1978, and never looked back. Since then, California has become a part of Mexico (according to Mexico’s former president, Calderon).

          • Andrew

            Not all people of California keep electing them. I live in the good old republican bubble of Orange County.. unfortunately, we aren’t big enough to out-vote the libtards throughout the rest of the state.

          • Oklahoma

            They just upped the body count.. I wanted to move there to be near grandson but they have to much control and no regard for freedom but you guys can smoke all the weed you want..

          • steve

            someone plz name any politician that has not at least charged with a crime or stole from the gov

        • truthseeker

          The PEOPLE of California keep electing their own state government, which makes these laws. I don’t feel too sorry for them.

        • Seawolf

          John then why do the Californians allow it to happen, unless they are just like the people they voted into office. I think it is hilarious that the state flag has “Republic” on it, farthest thing from it.

          • Al X

            PRC> Peoples Republic of California….

        • Goose844

          The Government the people there voted in huh?. Why did they vote in people that do what they want and not what the majority wants? They are supposed to serve the people not try to rule over them………… People in this country need to start getting informed / involved and stop being sheep. We all need to take responsability for our own actions and hold our politians accountable…..

    • Rocky Night

      I will from this point on BOYCOTT anything from California. I will no longer go there for vacations and or buy ANY product from this Tyrannical state.

      • Sting

        Unfortunately, this boycott everyone is talking about will fail due to a serious lack of conviction to stick to our principles until the work is done. Instead, we get busy, wrapped up in life, or maybe experience a little pain by our decision to take a stand, and then all too quickly decide “we’ve had enough”.

        For the most part, the masses just can’t wait for the next episode of “Housewives of Atlanta” or “The Bachelor”! Generally as a nation in trouble in so many ways, one would hope that we could collectively muster an attention span on the “real” issues that lasts longer than the next episode of TMZ!

        The Libtards are little more than brain-dead zombies that just spew the diseased and irrational propaganda of the Left. It’s the Leftist power-mongers that are the real threat. Make no mistake…they will see this country transformed to little more than a bowl of oatmeal if they are allowed to continue unchecked and unchallenged!

        We all need to get off our collective ass and use the voice that God gave us to call out the stupid, the lie, and the evil. Stand up. Stand firm. Stand tall. For as long as it takes!

        • Wakening

          Amen Sting. I believe most people are missing the big picture. This country is borrowing .46 cents out of every dollar it spends and were are spending so much more than we produce, very upside down. The only reason were are sustaining, is because we have a money tree (printing presses) but as the rest of the world realizes this, which they are, that we only control a fiat currency, we will lose our world currency power, which means more devaluation of the dollar and no more free money to hand out. The removing of guns state and federal wide, is because the white house and congress see massive riots and chaos to follow. Desperate governments will do desperate things. They got in this mess, but we will have to fight our way out. Ironic isn’t it. I hope we have the fight in us, and know what were fighting for, or you can draw your own conclusions from recent history…

    • jon

      Unfornatly,most people suffering from mental illness are far more likely to be abused than to go on a shooting rampage.they are regularly bullied,isolated,difficulty in social areas due to stigma of being crazy. And account for a very small portion of shootings. They require better acess to counseling,family support,and mediacal treatment. I hope they do not become a scape goat for shootings when criminals should be blamed. Also parentsof the mentaly ill need more support,especially in single parent homes. Better access to treatment is a must for them. Their family should be proactive with comunnicating issues with drs and when needed the police. A mental hold is better than a murder. And parents and care givers of mentally ill children should be held responsible if they drop the ball and don’t secure their weapons. If we ignore their problems,this lack of empathy will just make this worse. Disability aslo needs to be treated differently with regard to the mentaly ill,to get these people medical support before they hurt themselvesor someone else.

      • George

        “And account for a very small portion of shootings”. Really? Look at the perpetrators of the Virginia Tech., Aurora, Gabby Giffords, and Newtown shootings. They ALL had some sort of mental illness issues and/or were taking SSRI type antidepressant medications. Punishing the law abiding gun owners and infringing upon the rights of good citizens is not going to have any beneficial affect or decrease these shootings. Enforcing current laws may be of some benefit, and improving mental health accountability and treatment as well as educating the population on securing firearms would help. But, as is pointed out over and over, the criminals don’t care about or abide by any of these ridiculous gun control laws! Get off of the backs of we already overly regulated law abiding gun owners!

        • Johann

          Jon is correct. Mass-murders account for a very small percentage of homicides by firearm. Most are one and two victim crimes and most are committed with handguns. Those are perpetrated by run-of-the-mill criminals. Granted, they’re obviously sociopaths, but not “Mentally Ill” like the guys that have snapped and then shot up schools, theatres, etc.

          • Robert

            That’s right according to FBI stats 90% of gun homicides are drug or gang related and most occur in major cities not main street America. The districts were most of the gun violence has occurred have one thing in common they overwhelmingly vote for democrats so if dumbicrats would stop killing people with their guns we wouldn’t have a gun problem anymore.

    • Kerry

      This isn’t about any of that it’s about taking ppl’s guns…. a AR!% wasn’t even used at Sandy Hook it was found in the back seat of the car he was driving 4 handguns were used… ask the Jews how turning over their guns went when Hitler was running Germany..

      • Chris

        Kerry, the AR was in the school, there was a semi-auto shotgun in the car. Doesn’t matter, the fact is it is one of the very few times that class of weapon was used successfully in a spree killing. It is an over reach and not a problem in the hands of 99.9% of the firearm owners.

        • Dave

          Chris, I watched the Ct. state police specifically say that “no ar 15 was used in the sandy hook shooting. There was an ar15 found in the car the suspect drove, but was not used in the shooting”.

        • Greg

          The AR was found in the trunk of the car! There is a video of the Police Officer clearing the weapon when it was found in the trunk… Gun control is not the answer. If you have a trained and licensed person with a firearm when a psycho decides to go on a shooting spree you are more than likely going to be able to stop the psycho fro his shooting spree before the casualties add up!!!!!!!

          • Steve

            the weapon found in the car was a pump action shotgun you can see it in the footige if you look closely.
            The Sandy Hook disaster is way too chaotic with all the premature Information released to say wether an ar 15 was actually used.

          • Dark Space

            Steve is right, the weapon in the car was a shotgun, not an AR. While I realize this has been widely debated, it weakens the argument against egregious gun control laws and makes people think others are “tin foil hat wearing gun nuts” when they persist to argue a point that has been proven otherwise. Now, perhaps we find out the officials are lying and fabricating the story, but it currently detracts from the real debate around gun control. Unless you have more information than the rest of us (i.e. news reports, pictures [that show a shotgun], etc.) then it really doesn’t help your argument. Let’s just assume the AR15 was used – who cares, it really doesn’t change the fact that a crazy person stole someone’s unsecured weapons and used them to kill little kids. Reducing the magazine size wouldn’t have stopped him (is a kindergartner going to tackle him?), even giving him a knife would not have stopped him – he was nuts and breaking the law.

            I love the fact that during the news conference they’re talking about the crazy former-LAPD officer. He even points out during this that there is no excuse for this killer and rejects the journalist who brings up the fact the killer has some beef with the LAPD. He says “clearly this guy has a mental issue and that’s all there is”, but immediately goes against this and fails to recognize that the real problem is that the guy is mentally ill. It’s not his guns, it’s his brains that are fubar’d. (He also incorrectly notes that the Newtown killer legally purchased his guns!?!). Oddly enough, moments after this interview LAPD shot a 70+ year old woman twice IN THE BACK because she was driving a similar (but different year, color, make, model) truck.

          • Mac

            For the record, there is footage of them removing a shotgun from the trunk, but there is also footage of them removing the AR-15 from the car as well. The AR-15 and the shotgun were never taken into the school. Neither of those weapons were fired at anyone.

          • Tamara

            Greg, I agree 100%! Gun control is not the answer or fix all! I think it will just create more problems, esp. for law abiding citizens who need one for protection. If somebody wants to commit a crime, they will find a way! A big thanks to my responsible parents who taught me from the time I knew what a gun was, safety, how to use it properly & they are def. not toys to show off in front of your friends! Also, if you’re not prepared physically or mentally to use it in a crisis, you don’t need one..period! There’s big difference in just owning a gun & knowing how to use it or if you have the ability to actually pull the trigger, if it ever comes to that, to help save yours or others lives!

          • The Law

            The gun was an AR in the trunk. Hand guns were used inside…

          • Matt

            I haven’t seen the video of another weapon taken from the car but the video I have seen is of someone clearing an AK-47 type weapon. That was a Sagia semi-auto 12 ga. shotgun. I don’t think we will ever see everything about this shooting.

      • John Street

        The gun was found in his trunk and it was a shot gun not an AR-15 .

        • Mike

          um you are wrong it was both… The AR and the Shotgun were found in the trunk all they ahowed was the shotgun do your research bro!!!!

          • Entropy

            So…prove your claim. Produce the footage or stfu.

          • tkook

            Youtube search “sandy hook fully exposed” see for yourself. Did u ever think to actually do research on what weapond were used?

      • Victoria

        You went there and said it right.This Steinburg fellow is making a name for himself first and hoping to “save” us second. Some of us here in California will gladly tell him what we think….hope he can handle it.

        • ARIZONA

          VICTORIA,if you think the problems in california are bad now,wait till the nato troops show up,obama sold the entire usa to china last summer,but the chinese want americans disarmed and we know what will happen next,WAR…so if your not leaving california,you guys better get ready for war cause its on the way……….

      • Michael

        Kerry, of most of these responses, you touch on the truth. Hitler was the author of ultimate gun control & censored freedom of speech (burning of books). Folks should read more of how the world wide governments are following Hilter’s plan of world dominancy.
        Confiscating weapons & silencing the citizens are exactly why our forefathers adopted the 1st & 2nd Amendment. To defend ourselves from a tyrant government! That is why we should protect the three branches of government. DON’T let the prez & his crony buddies rewrite the Constitution and over ride the Judicial & Legislative branches !!!! Looks like, smells like Dictatorship to me.

    • Rachael

      Yeah, they are spending billions to change the gun laws but what they should be spending the money on is helping the mentally ill! It’s not legal gun owners that’s the problem! Besides that the criminals that do wrong with the guns get them illegally and changing the laws will not change them!! It’s a horrible waste of money and will not fix the real problem!

    • donald

      ya sounds good to all anti-gunners but just wait till u try taking them.also will u be going to the hood to get there illegally owned guns too??????? or is that to dangerous for u pussies to do…the only people who will have guns are the ones who have illegal guns as it is now,,,,so it will be any house they want to break into they will.home invasion with rape of daughters at any age and wife…smooth move u morons..if it is going to happen i hope it is the anti-gunners who get attacked first

      • Dean

        Yes, may all those blind liberal no good/EVIL politicians get a double portion of the wrath they’re trying to shove down our throats

        • me

          I’m a opportunistic predatory criminal and I’M MOVING TO CALIFORNIA where I will find millions of victims unable to protect themselves from my kind!! thank you thank you thank you dumbass politicians!!! lol

          • Some laws are meant to be broken

            Better not come near my home, I won’t obey the law since it is entirely unconstitutional so you will be blown away if you attempt to do me or my family harm! Orange County is one of the last bastions of sanity in CA.

    • Enter your name...

      I definitely agree with you.

    • gunfan

      I KNEW this was where Koimmiefornia was going with this in 1984! (I have a damned long memory!) Scumcramento politicians are hiding behind the “hammer and sickle” showint their true Communist colors!

    • Bruce Kaspari

      Maybe we should take the guns away from Southern California police. They have shot two women and two men (all caucasian) in their search for a 6’2″ 250 lb African-American rouge cop.

      • marty

        Can you say keystone cops. lol lol

    • Tim

      New Hampshire is looking into requiring people without a gun to register. They are the ones that law enforcement must protect therefore they cost money and can not help defend the state.
      Sounds like CA has a mental illness problem in the legislature. Perhapse a test should be given to run for office.

      • Tamara

        Tim, I second that for anyone running for office..always thought most, if not all, were a sandwich short of a picnic!

    • Freedomlover

      They aren’t mental at all…this has always been the plan, and will continue to be the plan, guns in the hands of citizens is not acceptable to the elite, when the country crashes and people cant buy food they need them disarmed so they can go to club FEMA

    • Joe

      Beat know as ‘traitorous’!

    • One Man's Opinion

      “This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!” – Adolph Hitler, 1935, The Weapons Act of Nazi Germany …..

      • sjc-1776

        Interesting how Obama dispises the Hilter comparisons, yet the similiarities just keep on showing up. Think he read Mein Kampf and just isn’t telling anyone (except his sycophant-facist-nazimarxist tools).

    • One Man's Opinion

      Of Course it’s common sense: isn’t that what HITLER said? Yes, he did… this Loozer starts w/ a LIE: FBI STATS for CA for 2011: 1220 murders by firearm NOT 2800; down 3% from 2010. FYI LIARS in SACK Town: Auto Deaths for 2011: 32,367…Hateful, Stupid, Liars! 32,000 Duz NOT = 1,220!! When will we stop VOTING for theez Scumbags they will steal everything we have if we let them!

    • billstyer88@gmail.com

      they are crazy they arnt saving anyone they are putting lives in danger!! thank god for my governor(ohio) he will never follow these gun laws. we will always be our own people! i mean really he even calls them clips! its called a magazine you twit! but hey you guys voted for him. just remember all those gangbangers you have out there are going to pray on you people cause they know you’ll be unprotected. im pro cop al they way but they rarely get there in time to save your life we need to protect ourselves an stop expecting other people to do it for us!

    • DED

      Do the Cal. officals think that the mentally ill and the criminals are going to turn in their guns and ammo? Passing more gun bills does not stop a bullet, If they continue down this path then only the criminals will have weapons making crime rise, just look at Chicago,,,the entie town is a no gun zone, but they continue to have the highest gun crime rate. It seems that most of the officals in the United States want more crime so they can scream for the feds to come and help, causing martial law.

      • Bova

        Not true. You can own a firearm in Shitcago. It is just VERY limited in what you can own.

    • dave smith

      If I am a violent criminal that is an opportunistic predator, I’M MOVING TO CALIFORNIA where I will have plenty of victims unable to protect themselves by state law! I am going to have a field day!! I am thrilled at the golden opportunity these state lawmakers are giving me….lol what morons! Let the bloodbath begin in earnest, ye ha!

    • Ron

      This is a communistic government, that is out of control!
      We will uphold the Constitution at any cost!

    • Ron

      We will uphold the Constitution at any cost!

      • katy brown

        ha! from this blog, none of you actually know what the second amendment states. here, let me remind you: As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, then-Secretary of State:[23]

        A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

        so how many of you constitutional loving morons actually joined with a civilian, well regulated militia in order to be prepared to take out a would be dictator?

        here is also a supreme court ruling on the issue of firearms. In United States v. Cruikshank (1876), the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that, “The right to bear arms is not granted by the Constitution; neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence” and limited the applicability of the Second Amendment to the federal government.[2] In United States v. Miller (1939), the Supreme Court ruled that the federal government and the states could limit any weapon types not having a “reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia”.[3][4]

        also, all of you had great opportunities to actually sit down and hammer out logical, reasonable gun laws, such as no more selling of guns at fairs where background checks do not take place, no selling of military weapons to the public. but, no, you morons had to turn this into a pissing contest.

        there are many things that i don’t agree with the about gun laws, but you idiots helped to push it there. aren’t you just so proud of yourselves?

        oh, and the stuff about christianity…i am sure i can hear jesus singing your praises about letting people starve and die. hypocrites!

    • mike

      We as californians should do as our new york brothers. DO NOT COMPLY!!!

    • john

      Why aren’t they taking the same amount of action against the big tobacco industry which kills more civilians in America than all of the city’s guns deaths combined??? – these people are just using tragedy as a segway to disarm American citizens.. Better believe our military and police forces will keep their weapons.. so now our protective forces no longer serve us.. they trump us..

    • g3attack

      YOU IDIOTS! DID you not see that the kid in Newton did not care about any laws???? He took his mom’s guns and killed her as well!! You can not stop crazy!!!!!!

    • Tamara Vaughn

      The Gov. Does not care about the publics safety just how they can take more money out of hard working people’s wallets. The criminals and crazes will still shoot people but now we again are paying the price for a cheap cover up if Cal. People are dumb enough to fall for this stunt than do be it but don’t try it in Oregon.

    • Rich D

      I hope every single gun manufacturer, and every manufacturer of all weapon supplies, and ammunition bans the entire state of California!
      Force police officers to be unarmed….after all, guns are not needed. Considering the police get there after the violence stops. What would they need any of that for? Ohhhh, and make sure those representatives turn theirs in too…… We don’t want discrimination!!!

    • Jane

      I think the politicians have mental problems.

    • John

      This guy in delusional. You cannot legislate guns out of the hands of criminals. All he is doing is taking guns from the law abiding citizens who have a Constitutional right to possess them. Actually removing guns from the hands of these citizens will only raise the gun violence statistics because now the criminals know that citizens don’t have guns to fight back. Crimes rates will only raise. If guns kill people, then how does anyone ever get out of a gun show or store alive? The criminals are the problem, lets address them for once.

    • james brown

      This State is over the edge. We have people in this state that should be sent else where. If we do not turn it around and move more conservative California will become a foreign state to the bill of rights.

    • RL Green

      You guys in California need help ” stop these idiots now! “

    • RL Green

      You guys in California need help ” stop these idiots now! “

    • Upur Azaz

      So what is the percentage of the population that commits these random shootings?
      Why should we suspend the 2nd amendment rights of 99.999999999999999999999999 % of the 330 Million Americans because of the Actions of .00000000000000000000000000001% of the Population ?

      Illegal Aliens kill more Americans than a few Nuts with Guns,
      So why are we trying to outlaw guns,
      and grant Citizenship to 13 million Criminals?

      “Lets Disarm Law Abiding Citizens and give Citizenship to 13 Million Criminals!” = LIBERAL LOGIC

      Illegal Aliens make up less than 3% of the Population yet they make up about 25% of ALL Prisoners in the United States, and about 90% of them are incarcerated for NON Immigration related Offenses !

      Check out the GAO report about Illegal Alien Crime Rates, also check out the large numbers of Rapes and Murders Illegal Aliens commit, does it make any sense at all to Freak out and try to infringe and severely limit The Constitutional rights of 330 Million Americans because of a very small percentage of gun crimes, yet at the Same time Illegal Aliens Kill and Rape more Children each Year than all the Psychos’ on shooting sprees since 1982 !

      Yet the Ass Clowns in Washington Want to Reward Criminal behavior for 13 Million Illegal Aliens
      And Punish 330 Million law Abiding Americans for the misconduct of 60 Psychos’ with Guns!

      What the F$%# ? Wake Up America Your Government is Screwing You !

    • IGotBupkis, Legally Defined Cyberbully in All 57 States and some Canadian provinces

      }}} from what I’ve seen on the news the people doing the shootings have some kind of a mental problem. I think Cal. is way overboard and going in the wrong direction

      Not at all. Anyone still living in Cali has to be a complete lunatic. Ergo, clearly, no one in Cali should be allowed to own any kind of weapons.

      Q.E.D.: They should ban kitchen knives…

    • free

      This man and his cronies are a bunch of idiots and should be run out of office on a rail.
      Californians are all sheep if they do not stop this.

    • armytanker19e

      Let’s make things simple, since we are dealing with liberals. Eight of the last ten mass shootings were done by liberals/liberal minded people. Outlaw being a liberal and the gun crime and mass shootings would go down 80%! Problem solved!

    • dave

      talk about a violation of the constitution…… those lawmakers should be tarred and feathered. but i guess you get what you vote for…..

    • RobG

      I think California legislators have the mental problem!

    • mike

      Think why Mexico our neighbor and many other countries have severe gun control It is all about absolute power among the small amount of rulers common sense.They only have control if we are all defense less It is the major plan

    • g wilson

      A problem I see is there is a mental sickness with the Sacramento crowd, and the people that allowed this state to loose checks and balances. There is no opposition to any thing the dictators want to do.
      I’m in favor of registration of “spoons” for fat people, if we have to register out weapons. And the next time a deranged person shoots someone the district of that politician should fire them.
      It’s all a take over and a stupid way to get votes in the socialist areas, of the uninformed.
      We have lost the country to the dictators bent on damaging the republic. It’s gone.
      Hide your guns.

    • Rudy Parayo

      The State of California should be called,
      “The Democratic Socialist LGBT Sharia People’s Republic of Kalifornia.” After our rights have been rescinded, the legislators will introduce laws requiring us to “swear an oath of loyalty” to them.

    • R.

      Nazi Germany all over again.Get used to it.

    • Bud

      He stated in his opening remarks that some 2800 people died by guns, suicide, murder, accidents etc.. in one year.
      He then declared the same amount of people died from automobile accidents. He said cars, trucks, all vehicles are licensed as well as all drivers tested and licensed. He suggested that new laws be made to have guns the same as the cars.
      My question is if all the licensing, testing etc… of drivers works so well then why are the deaths by cars not important enough to add more restrictions on the way cars are made or what kind of car you can own? Why should you have a car that goes faster than 50 miles an hour. They have proved that an accident at 50 miles an hour cause less injury and deaths than an accident at 70. Why does anyone need a car with 755 horsepower that can go 200 miles and hour when the speed laws in most states is 70 to 80 miles an hour. Then he calls for the same licensing, registration etc.. for guns and gun owners. What’s the flaw here?. If the licensing of vehicles and drivers has the same rate of deaths as unlicensed guns what is the benefit of licensing guns?
      Also why are they not trying to limit the horsepower of vehicles so they can only go let’s say 50 miles an hour?. why don’t they make bumpers on vehicles much stronger.
      There is absolutely no sense and absolutely no comparison to the type of gun laws restrictions and controls they want to put on guns. Why, because they want to ultimately disarm the people entirely. It’s about controlling us. They don’t want to restrict car ownership or punish and make criminals out of law abiding citizens for owning a car with 755 horsepower that can go 200 miles and hour but they want to take a semi automatic pistol away? It doesn’t do a thing to save some ones life, get serious here. It is plain control over the people and it takes away a persons ability to protect his family from the crack pots that are out there creating the crimes and murders that create a need for a person to own weapons to begin with.
      We need guns not only to protect our families and belongings but to also protect our Constitution and Liberties, it’s our God given right as a free society to protect ourselves from all enemies both foreign and domestic.
      Ask any cop, or any politician how they plan to make it to your house and save your family if someone breaks in and starts shooting, or chopping or using baseball bats, or chainsaws, or rocks and starts killing your family if they can please get there in 2 1/2 seconds to take the criminal out and save your family from harm, go ahead and ask them!! You know as well as I do there is no way they can. Do you want that? to see your family slaughtered? when there is a huge possibility that maybe you could have saved their lives if you would have had a gun?
      Don’t fall for this crap they are trying to shove down your throat. When our government takes away the guns there goes your freedoms along with it, there goes your ability to protect yourself your family and properties. When they can guaranteed us absolutely that there will be no more crime, the nuts that go out and kill will no longer do that and that we are 100% safe from harm and that there will be no enemies both foreign and domestic to fear then maybe we could have some type of gun control. Until then is pure suicide to let them take our guns and right away from us. Stand up with me and tell them Hell no you can’t take our defenses away from me!!

  2. greg loftus

    Unfortunately your average gang member ot criminal has not registered his weapons. Yiou will only be confiscating legal weapons from law abiding citzens. You are unable to control your border with Mexico and soon the weapons your governmemnt gave to Mexico will be for sell at upscaled pries in your state. You will create a huge black market in weapons and ammo. and like drugs where there is incresed profit there will be increased business

    • Michael Loftus

      Perfectly stated! Once you disarm the law.abiding citizens the criminals have free reign to commit aggravated(with a gun) crimes at an increased rate. I will be a CA citizen with the military in April and I am disgusted with this.

      • Edwin Nelson

        If the military sends you there, you do NOT have to become a resident of California. You may choose any state you have an affiliation with. Some good ones to choose are TN, TX, FL or AK.

        • PRK Escapee

          Wyoming, is one of the best!

        • James Waszak

          VA!

      • Truthman5k

        MO is another great state for rights…

        As far as the questions went… sounds like many are staged…

        • john

          does this sound a bit like “Hitler”did before he rounded up people that he wanted to get rid of? (THINK ABOUT IT!)

        • Me

          Is it any coincidence that these states also have the lowest IQ scores? Rednecks!

          • maskedassassin

            Me: are you sure neck claim? Do you know what a Redneck is? What is your IQ? How do you know that these state have low IQs? Are you anything more than a stupid name caller?

          • That must be why TX does better in education standards than CA, all them dumb rednecks…

          • Jason

            Me say what you will,but we know what it takes to protect our familys home and country

  3. CFM

    Just like in Mexico. And does it solved the violence problem here? 60 thousand dead bodies say no!

  4. mike

    PUss*es like him make me want to vomit, against his arguement, how many people drive with out a license, how are you going to stop someone from commiting sucide, they will just find another method. like getting in a car and driving it into someone at high speed, here is what you can do, put bullistic resistant glass in schools, to keep people from breaking the glass and walking into. and vote these marons out of office

  5. Ken

    This is astounding. The degree at which the federal government AND states are attempting to jam this legislation down our throats.

    The America we once new is gone.

    The ridiculous aspect of these proposed laws… they will not be adhered to by any criminal. What do they not understand about that fact…? Oh wait… that’s right… they know this, but don’t care. They simply want to disarm everyone (except themselves and their body guards of course).

    • Kathleen

      The laws won’t be adhered to by any criminal, and any American citizen who will not comply with the order will end up being a criminal. And now with Obama having the choice of killing an American citizen when he thinks it is necessary, well…I guess we can see where this is going.

      • dawn star

        Ya for sure this is exactly what Hitler did.

  6. Flyovercountry

    I have an idea for Californians…go F@$K yourself. Stay there. Keep your cancer there. Don’t leave and spread your disease to the rest of the country. You are no longer Americans. And those of you from the northeast, do the same. You have nearly succeeded in destroying North Carolina and Florida with your absolute asinine foolishness. You destroy the states of your birth and then pick up the plunder you have scored and metastasize southward. We hate you. It’s time to divorce. California, keep your pornography and hedonism. We can grow our own food. Northeast, keep your talking heads and union thugs. For the love of God, let’s just get it over with.

    • russ

      Seems like Californians should revolt and take over the state house and jail all the politicians now!

      • JBinGA

        With the 2012 NDAA, all it would take is for the CA National Guard Commander to issue an arrest warrant for all politicians attempting to undermine the US Constitution, arrest them and imprison them indefinately for treason and sedition.

        The sword cuts both ways, ladies and gentlemen…

      • Jerry

        The problem IS Californians… They voted all the stupids in… You can guess where the IQ is located for those entering the voting booths…

        • Maskedassassin

          I suggest that anyone who cares about themselves and their families move out of California and leave it to Mexico. But Sherman it first.

        • Dean

          Yes, low IQ’s syndrome plagues California, they’re the ones who voted for Frankenstein, I mean witch feinstein in the first place, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!!!!!!!!!!

    • George Washington

      Dont blame the cancer of our government on the People of California or the North – that is Asinine and isolationist. If we fall in other states its because YOU didnt want to get involved or help any other state fight the good fight. Eventually, you and your state will be FORCED to give up your rights because YOU blamed governmental forced control on the people and not on the gov.

      • Phil

        This is not a state problem, or a states rights problem. This is a Republic of the United States of America problem. If the Constitution is abridged in one state, all states are fair game. Californians used to be frontiersmen and women. It’s time for all Americans to rise up, not just moan and whine. You think this is bad, if you wiat much longer, it gets worse. Yeh, Yeh, I know, you liberal socio-democrats will say paranoid. I say, heightened sense of self awareness.

        • JACK

          Well Said Phil!!!!

      • Flyovercountry

        No. Sorry. California was once a conservative state. Landowners, producers, businessmen and manufacturing. No more. They have regulated/socialized/spent themselves into oblivion. There is no way out but to start over. Likewise our country would have never been born without the patriots from the Northeast. Look at the people there now. They can’t hold a candle to their forefathers. It is a disgusting insult that the birthplace of American patriotism is now a cesspool of socialism and anti-Americanism. Everything is 180 degrees from what should be, brother. The cancer IS the people. The government is of the people. Give me. Give me. Give me. Regulate. Regulate. Regulate. I am sick to death of seeing the cancerous populous vote for these laws in their nest, then pour East and South when their nest is irreparably fouled. Straighten out your mess at home. March on your capitols and ride some people out of town on rails and then we can speak about who is fighting for what. I have fought, literally and figuratively for the last 30 years for my country. I see now it has been all for naught. Now I am fighting here at home.

        • Steve

          You don’t hold a candle to your forefathers, either, genius. You think whatever backwoods state you live in doesn’t have the same sickness as California or the rest of the country? Have you ever even been here? Or do you shovel in your morning news and ask for another helping without ever stopping to ask what’s in it? It’s people like you, who think finding someone to blame is more important than finding a solution, who are the real sickness. You are just like the politicians you mock, always pointing the finger across the aisle so you don’t have to admit you might not know what the hell you are doing. And so quick to open your mouth as if you have the answers, safe behind your computer screen, fattening your ass in your confortable, stationary seat of judgement. Bet you’ll point the finger at me for pointing it out long before you’ll admit I’m right, too…that’s the problem with sick people-sometimes they don’t know they are sick.

          • whitcheywoman

            Well I AM from that God forsaken state, and it’s people like you, who keep their heads in the sand. The rest of us hold our forefathers in high regard. Choke on your liberalism. I can’t WAIT for the “big” one and idiots like you wind up in the Pacific. Keep voting for the morons you hold dear, you’re getting exactly what you deserve!!!

    • Robert

      The people of the Commonwealth of PA are still holding strong with our 2nd amendment rights

      • Flyovercountry

        Brother,

        It is not just your 2nd amendment rights. It is all of your rights. It is the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It is the ability to live your life without being forced into serfdom by the “Federal” government. It is about not being forced into slavery to pay for able bodied people to feed and house themselves and have luxuries such as cellphones. It is about not forcing a physician into slavery because he is required to work to provide for someone who does not and will not pay their bills. It is about the children of this country born into debt slavery. I am as strong a supporter of the 2nd amendment as anyone, but it is only a piece of the pie. Shrink your government. Now. Before it is too late.

        • Mike McCabe

          As a healthcare provider maybe if a Dr didnt charge $600 for a 3 minute talk might help. Hows anout you live here in Florida where the wealthy make the laws and the poor and middle class have to lap it up or suffer. Getting paid $7.26 and hour and trying to provide for your family or pay your bills and then come into work cause the boss dont like you can fire you on the spot without any reason because its a right to work state… I dont have a right to pay my bill I have to pay my bills and feed my family so Florida can suck it….

          • Maskedassassin

            If Florida is such an awful place to live, why not move to California or New York and go on food stamps and welfare. From what I hear it is easy to do so.

    • PRK Escapee

      Not all Californians want to leave and change their new state of residence, into another communist state, like has been done, to Oregon and Washington.
      I, for one, am leaving The People’s Republik of Kalifornia, to Oklahoma, because I find myself, more in agreement with Okies, than most any other state. I am moving there, to be amongst people who think like me, more than any other state, with the exception of Wyoming.
      SCREW THIS COMMIE STATE!!!

    • ron

      I am a *choke* californian, this once beautiful state has turned into a cesspool of liberals and illegals! I am moving out asap and I am NOT bring this liberal crap with me!

      • Lucinda

        Ron, I agree!! My husband and I both native Californians..Approaching 60..Leaving before summer to MT or AZ. No we are not liberal commies just looking for lower taxes..We are looking for personal liberty. The idea of sticking around is pointless while they suck us dry with taxation..more legislation and fewer rights..

        • Jay

          I’m a native Californian. I have since moved to Texas. I have a hard time explaining to people here… not all Californians are insane liberal hippies. Only the ones you see in the news. It’s like not everyone who says they’re from “New York” lives in NYC and works for a magazine or something. It’s stupid to think everyone is liberal. Mainly the north (san fran) and sound (LA/SD) are liberal. Everywhere in between is conservative and everyone I know in California is against this crap. I’m sick of people saying “California is a bunch of wacko hippies”… Not all, just the illegals that still get to vote, and douchebags from LA/SanFran.

          • Frank H

            You and I have had the same experience, and realize the truth, even though it is not “politically correct.” As we both realize, California is now a part of Mexico, for all intents and purposes.

    • Roger

      Being a native Californian at 70 years of age I can tell you that most natives are gone from CA. Most of the people here are ex-snowbirds. Between the “wets” and out-of-staters we’re screwed. If Steinberg wants my guns he can come and get them personally if he has the balls. Come alone.

      • Thom

        What the hell d do the snowbirds have to do with your problems? They can’t vote and are only there for 5 months a year. Ex-snowbirds? who the fuck in their right mind would want to take up permandent residents in CA?

        • Hungry

          Hmmm Snowbird…I wonder what they taste like?

          • Maskedassassin

            Chicken.

        • Ceemack

          Lighten up, Francis.

          I’m a native Californian. California was once a fairly conservative state. Ronald Reagan was a two-term governor here, remember? More recently we’ve passed initiatives banning state services for illegal aliens, race-based “affirmative action” and gay marriage.

          The problem we have is that a lot of northeastern liberals have moved here, and unionized liberals now run our public schools. Combine that with decades of illegal immigration and “anchor babies”, and we’ve now got a perfect storm of left-leaning voters.

          But even now, California has the same blue state/red state problem as the whole country. Most of the state is red, but too much of the population is centered in the liberal bastions of L.A. and the Bay Area.

    • Paul P.

      Please don’t stereotype us! There are thousands of us it this screwed up state that hate what’s happening. We talk daily about the screwball policies they shove down our throat and are all on your side — believe me! We are preparing for whatever comes, are tired of paying for the losers, my brother being one, kept quiet by the media that needs to be shut down and love America. Don’t look at if from a standpoint of state lines, were here and are just as pissed off as you. Maybe we will meet in the bush on day and have to fight side by side. I know your pissed, so are we and I agree, lets get this crap over with and whoever wins, wins!

      • Nelsonius

        Then do somethiung…Helloooo.

      • Dauby

        @ Paul, I agree. Lets get this ugliness done and over with.

    • williamwallace

      California used to be a free state. Now it is as you say. But a whole bunch on nut cases came her from the Great Depression on that came her to take our money. Moreover, sir not everyone from California thinks like this new wave of Morons. This was an open carry state, lots of open ground, great landscape, great hunting, good cops, now it is a sh@t hole. But they came from every place else. The naturals were good ole ranchers and farmers. So I ask with respect don’t put every person in the same boat..

    • Jack

      Unfortunately not every one from California has the same views, and as far as moving out of the state, some can’t afford it, so if you are so damn wealthy, help some of those that would like to get out of California, put your money where your mouth is. IDIOT.

  7. George Washington

    The United States Government is telling us that THEY can take our Guns without our permission. THEY are basically telling US that THEY can do anything THEY want to US. FOR THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE has no meaning to them anymore. They want to Divide the people so they can Conquer the people because divided we fail – UNITED WE WIN. We ALL need to STAND AND FIGHT TOGETHER! CONTACT your REP/GOV/Mayor/Senator/ and tell them NO on taking our guns. NO means NO or the Alternative will be the destruction of our country.

    • Paul Revere

      I mail my letters daily and call (every day) and tell them
      “I would like to urge you to reject all new anti-gun legislation immediately.
      I would like to urge you to reject all new proposals and all new gun control throughout the legislative session.”
      State Assembly-Marc Levine district 10 (Dem)
      State Senate- Senator Noreen Evans (Dem (916) 651-4120
      Together we make a difference, call and write everyday and quit bichen!
      Peace Patriots

    • Dave Ki

      George: you are not seeing the true nature of what Big Brother is doing.BB is doing all this for OUR OWN GOOD we just don’t understand yet.If anyone does understand let me know.
      Don’t be surprised to see N.Y. blow,10s of 1000s of pissed off gun owners their.So as I suspect Ca. may.Assuming Frankenstein and Company get their way.IMHO BB IS Scared.Why all the ammo purchases?

  8. Fred

    Thank GOD we left California nearly two years ago. These liberals will NEVER understand that making it more difficult for law-abiding citizens NEVER creates a problem for criminals.

    This is absolutely ridiculous. If this passes, everyone in California who owns guns should do what the people of New York are doing: RESIST.

  9. NO1LOCATOR

    SILLY LIBS TAKE A LOOK AT LOTS OF COUNTRY’S HERE THAT ARE MOSTLY DISARMED , TAKE CARE OF YOUR CRIMINALS AND STOP MESSING WITH GOOD PEOPLE OF THE USA, IF YOU THINK THAT WE THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO STAND STILL TAKING CRAP FROM BAD PEOPLE COMING TO STEAL, HARM, KILL US THINK AGAIN !!!

    Crime Statistics > Assault victims (most recent) by country

    showing latest available data.

    Rank Countries Amount
    # 1 Saint Kitts and Nevis: 3%
    Crime in Saint Kitts and Nevis

    # 2 United Kingdom: 2.8%
    Crime in United Kingdom

    = 3 New Zealand: 2.4%
    Crime in New Zealand

    = 3 Australia: 2.4%
    Crime in Australia

    # 5 Canada: 2.3%
    Crime in Canada

    # 6 Finland: 2.1%
    Crime in Finland

    = 7 France: 1.4%
    Crime in France

    = 7 Denmark: 1.4%
    Crime in Denmark

    = 9 Sweden: 1.2%
    Crime in Sweden

    **9 United States: 1.2%
    __________________________________

    Crime Statistics > Robbery victims (most recent) by country

    Showing latest available data.

    Rank Countries Amount
    # 1 Poland: 1.8%
    Crime in Poland

    # 2 Italy: 1.3%
    Crime in Italy

    = 3 Australia: 1.2%
    Crime in Australia

    = 3 United Kingdom: 1.2%
    Crime in United Kingdom

    = 5 France: 1.1%
    Crime in France

    = 5 Portugal: 1.1%
    Crime in Portugal

    = 5 Slovenia: 1.1%
    Crime in Slovenia

    # 8 Belgium: 1%
    Crime in Belgium

    = 9 Sweden: 0.9%
    Crime in Sweden

    = 9 Canada: 0.9%

    @16 United States: 0.6%
    _________________________________
    Crime Statistics > Total crime victims (most recent) by country

    Showing latest available data.

    Rank Countries Amount
    # 1 Australia: 30.1%
    Crime in Australia

    # 2 New Zealand: 29.4%
    Crime in New Zealand

    # 3 United Kingdom: 26.4%
    Crime in United Kingdom

    # 4 Netherlands: 25.2%
    Crime in Netherlands

    # 5 Sweden: 24.7%
    Crime in Sweden

    # 6 Italy: 24.6%
    Crime in Italy

    # 7 Canada: 23.8%
    Crime in Canada

    # 8 Saint Kitts and Nevis: 23.2%
    Crime in Saint Kitts and Nevis

    # 9 Malta: 23.1%
    Crime in Malta

    # 10 Denmark: 23%

    # 15 United States: 21.1%

    Total Crimes:
    # 1 United States: 11,877,218 Population: 311,705,000 2011 – ranks 15th in total crime victims behind the UK

    # 2 United Kingdom: 6,523,706 Population: 62,435,709
    2011 – ranks 3rd in total crime victims ahead of the US

    • NO1LOCATOR

      You have let the bad guys float for so long, you will never get the guns out of bad guys hands, that is joke if you belive, not only the problem of guns being in bad guys hands, but the mentally ill , hell all you have to do is claim that all have mental illness then take all guns, you missed the problem all the way around, as you do all the time , YOU SUPPORT DISARMING AMERICA YOU CAN BE CHARGED FOR THAT ACTION !! put the bad guys away ! stop turning them back to the streets you are supporting your own jobs with hunting for them all over again, then turning them lose on us, now you wish to disarm us to a point of no defence agains there full auto weapons , you are sick in my thinking ! I am retired FF and have had shoots fired at me before so dream on with taking guns !

    • rodney

      But the U.S seperates violent crimes from gun crimes in their reporting. in actuality the US is third in the world in gun crimes

      • Lance

        The US is third in the world in gun crimes only because most of these other countries ahead of the US in crimes has some form of limited gun ownership where-as the general population doesn’t own guns. You have to looat the overall big picture in that yes we have higher gun crime but lower crime rates because people in the US have a means to protect themselves.

        What you also fail to mention is all gun related deaths and injuries in the US are listed as gun crimes in the US. Someone commits suicide, hunting accident, etc. Not just and simply murders.

  10. AK Freedom

    Good thing I live in AK and I will never be in CA. Get rid of all the crazy liberals and lets gain some common sense again people. RESIST…..

  11. I suppose this will help to hasten the return of CA to Mexico. Most Americans interested in maintaining their arms will leave along with businesses. What will be left? No much… They will ask for money to cover their social programs because there won’t be enough revenue.

    • Cali Zac

      Haha! People and businesses come to Cali because of its endless resources and fertile soil. If they take guns, businesses aren’t going anywhere. There’s a reason California is so populated and we Californians are very proud. I you guys want to boycott the state, please do! Our sunny beaches and beautiful theme parks are too crowded as it is.

  12. Mick

    Strong gun rights states should pass legislation making it a felony for CA and NY residents to travel to or through their respective states without a semi-automatic firearm and a magazine holding more than 10 rounds.

    • Runner

      I like that idea. It doesn’t even violate the constitution.

  13. W.D.

    When they take your Rights away, thank a Democrat.

    When they tax you more, thank a Democrat.

    When they give illegal immigrants your hard earned money, thank a Democrat.

    When they say you can’t burn in your own fireplace, thank a Democrat.

    When food prices go up because of Obamacare, thank a Democrat.

    When gas prices go up, thank a Democrat.

    When your kids are held back in school not because they are not smart enough but rather due to teachers spending more time with non-english speaking kids, thank a Democrat.

    When you have to ask permission to build a house, fence, wall, patio, etc., thank a Democrat.

    When farmers can’t get water for their crops, thank a Democrat.

    When criminals are released from jails and prison early, thank a Democrat.

    When you smell feces and urine in the streets of San Francisco, thank a Democrat.

    When a 2nd grade kid gets suspended from school for pointing his finger like a gun, thank a Democrat.

    When an 8th grade girl get contraceptives from school, thank a Democrat.

    Aren’t you tired of thanking Democrats?

    When they try to take your guns away, how are you going to thank a Democrat?

    • David

      That is beautifully thought out and executed!

    • FLIPZHD

      RALLY AND WAIT LIBERALS CANNOT FUNCTION IF THERE IS NO INTELLECT OR WISDOM WITHIN THE LIBERAL SHEEP FOLLOWING THEIR MASTER. WHEN OBUMMER AND OBIDEN STOP QUICK THESE LIBERAL NITWITS WILL BURY THEIR HEADS SO FAR UP INTO THE DARKNESS .THEN AND ONLY THEN ,MAYBE THEY CAN SEE THE TRUTH IN THIS MUSLIM SOCIALIST UPRISING.

  14. MALCOLM

    Hey ya’ll, come to Texas….:-)

    • BadAmerican

      Thanks for the invite Malcolm. I grew up in Texas and most of my family still live there.

      I live in Cali now and no one is taking my guns.

      I didn’t start this fight, but I mean to see it through.

      NOT ONE MORE INCH !!!

      …be safe…stay the course…NOMI…..Ba.

      • JAB

        Way to go brother!!!

      • JAB

        I like in Kansas. If at some point in time the FED/KBI/STATE POLICE or anybody else comes for my gun’s…. we all will leave my home in BODY BAGS! I’m fed up with this crap!

    • FLIPZHD

      Pleas find me a place to stay and rally and I will glady come to your fine state of TEXAS!!!

  15. Jerry D. Nowak

    What the hell????? Did these people elect a communist? If they (the state legislature) allow this bill to be passed, it shows that the people there are the idiots that they are by electing morons!

  16. Andre in L.A.

    I’m in California, so it looks like I will be buying another Savage Model 99. Built in rotary magazine (non-removable)and lever action. Stick that up your commie tail-end, Feinstein. Light and perfectly balanced means you can get on target faster, and a lever means almost as quick in getting off the next aimed round as a semi-auto. In speed-demon .22-250, with copper solids just what one needs for armored zombies.

  17. Renegade Knight

    Legalities aside, the gun control they are attempting will not work–too many citizens care too much about their rights. Plus, what happens if someone from TX is visiting family in CA and has their pistol in the glove box? Texas law states my car is an extension of my house and my house is in TX…

  18. Dictator

    Yes you stupid people i will take all your guns and tell you when you can crap and when not to crap, and there is nothing you can do cuz i have all our guns

  19. Charleen Miller

    I am a 3rd generation native Californian. I left California 11 years ago, because the politics and the ignoring the problems of the illegal aliens became unbearable. I have not been back, and I won’t come back. California was once a wonderful, beautiful state, sorry to say it hasn’t been for a long time,and this stupid move will bury it for sure.

  20. Patriotagent

    I can’t believe these morons!!! Steinberg is such a communist. How about stop the catch and release program with our prison system! I will NEVER give up any of my legally owned firearms or magazines! I can’t wait to leave Kalifornia.

  21. Bill Fields

    They dream of building a liberal party dictatorship with out opposition being remotely possible. You can write letters and protest and they do not care. You are someone to be controlled, not someone to be listened to. Their ONLY fear is that you just might show up and shoot them when you’ve had enough… guns are like the boogie man that might come in the night and kill them. To them you are an enemy to be controlled at all costs… including the total destruction of our entire system

  22. RebelRouser

    These people are at the bottom of the food chain. They’re afraid of their own shaddow, coal,oil, nuclear power, natural gas, and 32oz soft drinks. They want to take your guns so they will be the ones with firearms. Theres a reason they need armed body guards. They are at the bottom and want to drag us down with them.

    Keep your firearms oiled and readily available. Go to the firing range and make sure it performing properly. Get prepared to be mobile, food and water. Find groups of people that will welcome you into the fold. God Bless America and the the AR-15.

  23. Rick Myrtue

    Gee, what happened to “No ex-post facto laws”. If y’all don’t get it yat, you’er gonna get it now.

  24. MB

    Time for the gun industry to boycott Kalifornica. If the people cant have guns, neither should the State!

    NO more guns, no more ammo!

    • frank

      yep band sales to all law inforcement and gov. agances..

  25. realisticbob

    “If we can save lives, we must do so.”
    it is a known FACT that smoking is the number one killer in America, why is it not being addressed to this extreme? I am led to believe it is to make it easier for a tyrannical government to oppress us with out fear of rebellion.

  26. marty

    Useful idiots.

  27. AndyWas

    – As a long-time Texan, I made my first visit to Cali last fall. Beautiful state. And obviously filled with small and medium business that toil under the rules their votes create. So be it, reap what your sow.
    The most tangible action that can have an immediate impact is the gun manufacturers choosing not to do business with the municipal purchases. Simple. I understand share-holders may get squeamish, but no company can survive feeding the wolf while the wolf kills most of their customer base. If Ruger and Smith& Wesson said no to the slim-margin purchase orders, imagine the support they would get. Force the state police and the cops to buy 2nd rate weapons and ammo. Sorry officers, but your bosses decisions have consequences.

  28. bob

    this is about the time i will say suck my dick

  29. JR

    I am in Calif. There’s still a lot of good folks here! I will not abandon them.If Patriots are attacked in any state,all Americans should come to help!I am not a Native of the State,but won’t leave the Elderly,or good folks to be Molested.
    We are all Americans and we all need to stand together where ever we are!

    • Shooty McBang

      I am in Cali too. I feel the exact same way as you do!

  30. David

    I foresee the coming of a second civil war in the US, the good news is the military will back the people this time and the politicians will be the ones strung up choking on their words and laws. This is the United States of America people….Dont you forget it!

    • Bob

      Civil war is coming people are getting tired of this crap and all these assholes always talking about gun control…I say you will get whats coming to you if you come to peoples houses to confiscate anything. Hilter MF bill pushing MF’s !!!

    • Runner

      Fun fact. It would actually be this country’s first civil war. The war we usually call “The Civil War” wasn’t technically a civil war since both sides weren’t fighting for control of the country. The North was fighting to keep the South from leaving (and to maintain/regain control), and the South was fighting to leave. So it wasn’t really any more a civil war than our revolutionary war when the colonies were fighting to leave and Britain was fighting to make us stay. We would be more accurate to call it “The War for (or against) Southern Independence”, but historians will never change it at this point.

      • bamabill

        “The War of Northern Aggression”.
        The C.S.A. has been illegaly occupied.
        Lincoln knew the courts would not support his position so he got his way by force.

    • becky byrum

      Divid, I to see and fell a second civil war and that is what Obama wants, and I think he will have the UN on his side, and I pray our military will be with us,I think they will, he wants to cut their pay so they will not be happy. it makes me sick to see what is happening in our country, I have had it.

  31. It is time for people to start voting with their feet. NY and CA already have two of the highest state income tax rates. Now with the gun control there is no reason to stay there. Most of the states that stand up for the 2nd amendment also have the best tax rates.

    • Dave Ki

      Recon don’t know if you are following this much 9 states have nullified possible fed orders concerning the 2nd(rather the state sheriffs’ associations).
      Utah
      Florida
      Georgia
      Colorado
      New Mexico
      Nebraska
      Wyoming
      Indiana, and just the other day
      California,though not saying if they would refuse to aide feds.Northern Ca. could be very different.With perhaps Utah being most vocal. Basically declaring war if they attempt.
      With other states pending. Just from what I’ve followed of course.

  32. Jonathan

    you know what i have to say to that…*click click*..

  33. Big Dawg

    Soooo, what are you gonna do Kalifornia? Continue to be sheep?

    • Roger

      I’m ready. Locked and loaded.Bring it on.

      • dane

        USA USA USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  34. Rick

    Looks like the next civil war will be starting in California.

  35. Neil

    I lived in the California People’s Republic for 25 years… AND HATED IT THE ENTIRE TIME (but was stuck there because of my job).

    I was finally able to leave California, and every time that I see news like this, I thank God that I no longer live there.

    However, just because I don’t live there, doesn’t mean that I can ‘rest on my laurels.’ California is like a tide of shit that slowly spreads to the rest of the country. WE MUST RESIST!

    • Jason

      It has been said many time the way California goes so goes the nation. scary huh?

  36. Steve

    Ca has finally found a way to do away with all the gangs in so central LA. 100% of the population there is to be rounded up and shipped off to prison.
    Folks, this law declares a gun owner to be guilty….and there is no provision to allow you to prove yourself innocent. Ca liberal think at it logical extension.

  37. nick

    California has fallen to Communism, All patriots should move from there immediately ! Patriots should Not travel to, or spend any money on products produced in California or New York! Pack up your weapons and get out ASA

    • TRISTEN WELLS

      NO I WILL NOT RUN AWAY FROM COMMUNISM I WILL BE FIGHTING IT TO THE DEATH, WHERE WILL YOU BE?

  38. Half-blood Prussian

    This is just an open invitation to Valhalla.

    • Entropy

      Damn right it is…

  39. American

    The Marxist “October Revolution” has begun.

  40. Steve L

    This is why California will fall into the ocean… All those FAT politicians will tip it over… But it can not be upheld. There is still a little something called THE 2nd AMENDMENT… I believe it has an attachment on the end of it that says….”AND SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED UPON”…. All the lefties are killing this country, piece by piece…

  41. Ken

    These draconian laws need to be stopped. Already criminals break the laws against robbery, assault, murder, burglary, rape, kidnapping, felon possession of a firearm and more. In what world do these idiot law makers think that disarming and criminalizing law abiding people exercising their constitutional rights will stop criminals from being criminals???

  42. ZZ

    Of course the aristocracy will be exemt

  43. Dawn

    One of the stupidest things I’ve heard! The article says California has strict gun control laws? Seriously? Explain to me then why the crime rate is so high and there are so many gangs WITH guns I might add. And with prison overcrowding just exactly where are they going to put all the people who break his new gun laws?? I’ve got a hot idea-why not enforce the laws they already have? What a novel idea that is, huh??

  44. Joe

    This is total bullshit, and makes me glad as hell that I do not live in Cali. I loved how the dumb women in the red sweater LIED threw her teeth about the gun violence rates…..we don’t even come in at the top five, barely the top ten in most categories……

    Also, is it just me, or does the ENTIRE thing sound completely ILLEGAL, after all it VIOLATES the 2nd Amendment in its ENTIRETY. Seriously, they may as well just propose a complete ban on all firearms and related materials….its a joke….

    • Dave Ki

      Joe: don’t know if you are following this much 9 states have nullified possible fed orders concerning the 2nd(rather the state sheriffs’ associations).
      Utah
      Florida
      Georgia
      Colorado
      New Mexico
      Nebraska
      Wyoming
      Indiana, and just the other day
      California,though not saying if they would refuse to aide feds.Northern Ca. could be very different.With perhaps Utah being most vocal. Basically declaring war if they attempt.
      With other states pending. Just from what I’ve followed of course.

    • BrokenArrow

      @flyovercountry…I’m from the NorthEast, there are many of us who dislike what’s going on in Cali and NY. We are also facing the same BS. We are the |||%..Carry On…

  45. sheila

    to tell what im thinking is a big waste of time

  46. Rob

    I’m not worried. This will never pass.

    • Jay

      They don’t need it to pass. They just need the idea to be so extreme, the public will gladly accept anything less, no matter how slight. It’s a foot in the door.

      • EBAL NOLOM

        “They don’t need it to pass. They just need the idea to be so extreme, the public will gladly accept anything less, no matter how slight. It’s a foot in the door.”

        This.

  47. tony

    the people of calif need to flush all the political douche bags down the toilet and elect some new officials with like they say common sense

  48. Loren

    It appears as California will create several criminals in its actions of passing legislation to criminalize legal gun ownership, I bet they create more Dorner situations then they prevent, I am starting to think that these quote crazy people may be not crazy after all, their government is turning them into criminals so they are simply saying why not be a criminal ! just an opinion or an observation and I do not support Dorners actions, But I am just looking at this from both sides, Dorner feels he has a cause and my point is that the state may be creating a bigger situation then it can handle making so many innocent people into felons over very very bad legeslation an attempt for total gun control and confiscation, civil war is at the edge of days to come !

    • Ray Burke

      Liberty is worth fighting for !!!

      • dane

        liberty is ours by right and i will not stand to see me, my family or anyone i see be robbed of our rights by birth.

        this country was founded on the blood of those who fought for freedom. the freedom of not only their children but their children’s children.

        we have gone from a great country full of freedom and liberty to a hell-hole run by corrupt politicians who care nothing about the people.

        i believe that a civil war will occur between the people of this country and the government and that it will bring about a new era of change.

        we may not know if the change will be good or bad but what we do know is that things must not continue as they are.

        change must occur and it will happen before the next presidential vote

  49. mitch

    so does going after gun traffickers include going after the feds for fast and furious

  50. J Rike

    Make the guns illegal and their values will outweigh platinum oz to pound when the cartel realizes the morons in congress created a whole new business venture for them. Count down till the arms race of 2014. If these weapons become banned the criminals will have a stranglehold on our state. More bribe money than they know what to do with. And if you think we have shoot out problems now, wait till these weapons are banned and watch anyone caught with them decide to shoot their way out of jail time. And lets not forget red blooded Americans that won’t take too kindly to someone taking away pieces of hardware they spent serious money on. It could get ugly when a rifle that retails for $2000, jumps in value to $10000, and the only people that have them are hoods and organized crime. If Americans continue this “It doesn’t affect me so what do I care about my fellow citizen.” Mentality, before you know it, rights they do care about will start to go because society tells us we are not accountable for our actions and need to be restricted like children or good little communist. We belame inanimate objects for our behavior and say the tv made me do it and judges, the media and those that don’t think for themselves buy it, leading to banning everything that involves responsibility to possess. What’s next? They going to tell us who we can love and what race or sex they have to be? Too late :) also riddle me this. When did this shooting mania start? Just last year. It’s all too damn convenient. Lets keep belaming tools and tv for all out messed up children that raise themselves because we are unfit parents, everyone else must suffer loss of rights. Thankyou to all those non thinker sheep like beings and bad parents. You’ve done a fine job screwing this great nations people. Take a bow.

  51. mark cecil

    Well Cal just became a whole lot more dangerous to live in. CRIME is going to go through the ROOF.

  52. charlie

    What I am thinking is when only the police and the criminals have weapons life as we know it will become as the book ‘brave new world’. Today police stations are bunkers. Police are not prosecuted as citizens when they kill citizens unjustly. Lawmakers are bought and paid for and their only concern is re-election. This country, unfortunately is headed in the direction of Nazi Germany in the late 1930’s. We are already systematically and arbitrarily declaring war on all countries that have what we want and won’t play our way. The connection between that and the civil disobedience it produces mandates the elimination of possible rebellion. Please remember the rebellion that produced this democracy! It started from the suppression of freedom. freedom of speech, freedom of class, freedom of tyranny.

  53. Ray Burke

    My advice to all Kalifornia gun owners: Get out of Dodge ASAP and settle in Texas with your guns and ammo. If you are a liberal or a muslim, pick another State. We don’t want you here.

    • Thom

      Its time to stand up or shut up. If this doesn’t prove to you that our nation is being attack from the inside nothing ever will. Time to man-up and protect your children. If your not willing to die to defend your family then your a low life coward. We’ve all been standing behind our Seals and military to fight our battles for us, WELL the fight is coming to us and we need to face up to it. NOW!!~!!! It won’t do any good to move to another state!! If they succeed in CA its only a matter of time before they will show up on your door step of whatever state you live in. Do some research, your not in this alone. It may seem that way now but when TSHF you won’t be alone.

  54. Angry German

    Im from Germany and you guys probably know we have pretty strict gun laws.
    Did you know you have to wait a whole year before even getting a permit to own a firearm? And even if you do you cant buy more than one Weapon in 9 months.
    Yet we have a higher per capita rate of school schootings.
    People will always search for a Scapegoat. In my Country its violent Video Games because Getting a Gun Permit is already as hard as a law exam.
    In the US People blame it on the Guns. Bad shit happens if you take the easiest solution to any Problem, especially gun related Violence.

  55. Peter

    Please tell me, MR.Democrat/Progressive/Socialist, WHEN DO ARMED-WITH-‘ASSAULT’ GUNS CRIMINALS, who have and will be able to continue to victimize the Law abiding citizens, OBEY THE LAWS?!?!

  56. RB Miller

    Thie disgusting bunch of fruits, flakes, and nuts need to be on a separate planet that only allows their kind of weirdos.

  57. WV native

    If this law passes, and I’m not saying it should, crush the system. California’s jails are overcrowded, it’s police are outnumbered. Force the National Guard into action. The day the law goes into effect, ALL gun owners in California should proudly walk outside their residence, armed and with a sign saying “just try it.”

    There are not enough places to put all the offenders. The law is not well thought out at all. An act of simple “passive” defiance of that magnitude is enough to scare the crap out of any liberal. What the president and liberals in general fear the most, is the loss of fear. They think they are untouchable. Instead if moving out of California, I say that everyone from other states should have a giant sit in… A state wide “gun cleaning” day.
    Simply to “support” gun owners in California and aid them in making sure their guns are clean and ready for action if needed.

    Liberals saber rattling is only to drive everyone into a frenzy. Gun companies need to offer price breaks to local gun stores, increase market shares, mandate maximum prices to prevent price fixing & refuse to participate in any contracts involving a California state agency. Liberals are hoping that people will run away, not stay and stand to be counted.

    There will not be another civil war, IT’S ALREADY STARTED!

    Wake up! Ironic as it is to say, not all wars are won with shoot outs.

  58. CC RIDER

    “THEY” wan’t to be more like European countries. “THEY” all need to move their happy little asses over across the pond and leave US all alone. WAKE UP AMERICA!

  59. steve

    Hitler is back….it has begun

  60. Shamnon M

    Shame on the Law Enforcement Officers standing behind this jerk. They are giving their support when they should be stating they would not enforce this law. They should be stating they’d arrest any CA congressperson that commits treason. I am concerned that this country is turning into a Democracy instead of a Republic. Republics live by laws, Democracies live by the powerful(majority) forcing its dominance on everyone else.

    • john

      The same rich liberals that are anti-gun have a private security firm guarding them and their family. What will a middle class family do, call 911 and pray.

  61. Dennis

    They punish law abiding citizens again, the idiots. Look what one LA cop has done to terrorize the police force. What is going to happen when they try to disarm millions of people? The politicians get to keep their guns and bodyguards. They will be setting up their own demise by pushing law abiding citizens any farther.

  62. Dennis

    One more thing. As of right now, there is very little ammo anywhere. There is no 22 caliber long rifle ammo anywhere east of the Mississippi and as far out as Reno. If you haven’t stockpiled there is no way to get it, and what little there is has gone up four times the value. Ammo is going to be a real problem.

  63. John

    There is no common sense to liberal thinking. Large gun magazines, magazine buttons, bullets, or what ever is not the answer to the murders using guns. The majority of crimes using guns are drug and gang related PERIOD. The politicians look the other way at this problem because they have not controlled or know how to fix this problem. They think more stupid laws will fix this huge problem in California, there so damn wrong. Start real punishment for inmates like hard physical labor or real sentences. Time and time again drug dealers and gang members get off so easy in their jail or prison senteces. The life behind bars is run by the gangs and its just a stopping point for criminals to get contacts so when then get out they have inside details and friends to associate with. There is no rehab in jails or prison. Its easy street for those criminals who got sent behind bars. Hell California even let out alot of prisoners cause there was not enought room for them in institutions. The liberals have screwed up this beautiful state with “laws and regulations” Make inmates work in chain gangs, leg iorns and black and white stripped outfits with 12 hrs hard labor 7 days a week and this might change some minds before they comitt a crime. Control the crime and I bet the gun shootings will drop. Next treat the mental ill people, dont cut that funding like it has been.

  64. William Moore

    I’m sicken with this crap from calimexico.. I’m a retired cop from a agency in Los Angeles county and in my more than thirty years of service I can truthfully say I’ve only taken guns from citizens two or three times. I can’t out the number I’d taken from gang members. It makes me want to vomit when I see law enforcement officers standing behind those idiot democraps nodding in agreement. I left calimexico two years ago moving to the North Georgia mountains taking my retirement dollars with me. It’s the bet move I’ve ever made. All of this bull shit follows O’stupids agenda to disarm America. The cops I worked with hate calimexico and can’t wait to leave. Believe me when I say the vast majority of cops disagrees with this crap. Between that shit for brains mayor from L.A. and the illegals calimexico is doomed.

  65. Dano

    Just think–The people that will be knocking (Kicking) down your door will all be carrying fully auto weapons pointed at your head while taking your guns—Umm makes perfect sence to me !!!! Jackasses. Oregon will never pass any such laws as we refuse to stand by and do nothing–Fight for your rights people !!!

  66. jedidr

    NOTICE

    DUE TO THE HIGH COST OF AMMUNITION, PLEASE BE AWARE THAT WE WILL NO LONGER FIRE A WARNING SHOT!! LET THEM TRY AND TAKE MY FIREARMS.

  67. Eric Blair

    Ban these guns, don’t allow people to have JHP ammunition, confiscate them all” Says the men who cower behind security teams – who pack semi AND full auto weapons, high capacity magazines, and JHP ammunition.

    I guess it is easy to demand compliance for the slaves when the master has protection.

  68. janet machtemes

    I live in the state of california with all these liberal idiots, It is amazing to me that they think the criminals will give there guns up what a bunch of idiots. T
    hey are allowing over 14 million criminals to come into this country and become citizens and then take the citizens guns from them. WTF!!!!

  69. Bob Hisserich

    Right Mr. Steinberg – registering your car and having a license to drive reduced accidents. Registering your car and having a license to drive is another scheme by states to collect taxes and has nothing to do with safety – the person behind the wheel has a RESPONSIBILITY to learn to drive in order to be a RESPONSIBLE driver. That is the drivers RESPONSIBILITY and up to him/her. If they don’t – they suffer the consequences of their actions. It’s not the governments responsibility to make sure I’m licensed.
    Further – driving a car is a privilege NOT A RIGHT as in owning a firearm “SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.”
    I’m not sure what part of that Mr. Steinberg – you don’t understand.
    Further – the Jews in Germany had what you refer to as “sensible” gun control measures in Pre-Nazi Germany. YOU SIR – should know this more than anyone is you were a student of history. Restricting me and other law abiding citizens will not stem crime. Seriously. YOU are NOT UPHOLDING YOUR OATH.

  70. Diana Gordon

    Where is the NRA!?! WHERE ARE THE LAWYERS WHO WORK PRO-BONO FOR THE ACLU?!? CALIFORNIA’S CITIZENS ARE BEING DENIED THEIR FREEDOMS!!!! IF YOU ARE THERE FOR THE ABORTIONISTS, THE IDIOTS WHO PROTEST MILITARY FUNERALS, ANYONE WHO FEELS VIOLATED BECAUSE THEY ROBBED SOMEWHERE AND WERE SHOT….SO THEY HIRE YOU TO GO AFTER THE ONE ROBBED BY THE THIEF…ACLU…DOOR SWINGS BOTH WAYS!!!

  71. Anne

    this is F’d up!

  72. dane

    this country is going to revolt against the government unless the politicians change their ways

    since the likelyhood of getting hit by lightning 5 times in a row is more likely to happen im going to be getting my guns and equipment somewhere i can store them and prepare the upcoming civil war.

    i advise everyone to prepare for a civil war. if it happens you are prepared. if it doesnt happen you recieve no penalty. either way you are ready

  73. CaptainHowdy

    I was born in California, and, should they come for my weapons, I’ll die here in a pile of expended brass and dying fascists…

  74. rodney

    I think a good place to start is letting everyone keep their guns, but ban all manufacture of guns and ammo. and ban the importation of any firearms or ammo. Sure we will still have a gun problem but over time, eventually, we will be free!

    • Richard

      Your a special kind of MORON! Have you done ANY research on gun confiscation throughout the world? If you have you mist the FACT that violent crime always goes up and genocide could follow. Will you be one that is crying,kicking and screaming as there dragging you to the death trench wishing you had a way to defend yourself? WAKE UP !

  75. rodney

    The 16th amendment allows the federal government to collect federal income tax. Should we “infringe” that?

  76. Richard Flynn

    These politicians have the intelligence of a mechanic writing medical laws…some of the laws they are attempting to pass already exist. As said before, we don’t need new laws, but need to enforce the laws already in existence!
    It’s sad that they are using the children killed to fit their own agendas of disarming the honest citizen and leaving them unable to defend themselves. Attack the criminal, not the honest hardworking citizen. It’s hard to understand the irrational behavior of the democrats of California. It’s obvious they have not given any logical thought to what they are doing.

  77. Brandon

    This is the most ignorant politician I have ever seen! I am a first responder and I completely disagree with this. It will be worse when law abiding citizens are known to have no self defense… Damn morons!

  78. Alfonso

    OMG! This is scary… Good bye California!

  79. Dave Hartman

    I consider myself one of the lucky ex Californians who escaped in may of2012.unfortunately my three kids still live in the land of fruits and nuts but they are all working on their own escape plans.ca. Will shortly become the first state to come under federal control because there won’t be enough tax payers left to support the social programs -thirty three percent of all welfare reciepents in our country call ca. Home what a shame but the voters have gotten exactly what they wanted liberal crap going insane

  80. Jim M

    what the Dems want the Dems get now in CA, they have the majority on both sides of the House.
    It sucks to live in a once great State

    • Oscar

      An agreement has been signed allowing the military forces of Canada to enter this country to assist in times of civil unrest. They are not planning on using our own forces against us because they know they would not have the manpower left. The rule prohibiting the use of U.S. forces against U.S. civilians has been ended by Executive Order under this man in the white house.

  81. Matthew

    I love how California wants to license people who own firearms, but then cast an angry glance at whoever suggests documenting immigrants.

  82. TJ

    It’s going to be hard to give illegal immigrants free school, healthcare and business start up money when I and people like me take our legal gun owning, property owning, tax paying asses somewhere else. I grew up in L.A. and you know what. Those weren’t legally procured firearms being pointed at me. Have fun striking the death blow to what was once the greatest state in the union.

    • Paul

      I am currently in stationed in CA and not a resident. The blame for most of this should not be pointed at the people, but at the government officials. When most of them were elected they did not say “elect me I will take your guns from you”. instead of throwing blame blindly, start reading the constitution. A government for the people, by the people. part of the oath of enlistment for our military is to defend this country from all enemies foriegn AND DOMESTIC. I would call this a threat to our country that is DOMESTIC. It is our right to defend ourselves from this blatent violation of our constitutional rights. People from all states need to ban together to stop this spread of terany in our own country. Until we all stand united, we will all fall as individuals. Individual states and individual people. California is just the start to a wide spread rape of the people of this country.

  83. bowlan

    move out of the liberal state and let mexico take over because that is what the liberals want any way.

  84. Nam Marine

    None of this matters! “They” do NOT have enough people to enforce SQUAT !

  85. Malitia

    The men and women in the state of California need to defeat this bill at all cost , If this bill passes then these men and women need to stand their ground and not comply with the Unconstitutional law Many of California’s Sheriffs support the constitution and will not allow these unconstitutional laws to be inforced with the support of these sheriffs the sheriffs posse and the california malitiia and with help of thousands of out of state freedom fighters as a last resort they need to remove by force the enemies of the Constitution and restore a new Constitutional state government in there state .

  86. Tommy

    Yes, CA requires drivers to be licensed, and to be insured, and to “know the rules of the road”, AND they still had more deaths due to stupid drivers than deaths by guns. And those gun-related homicides were committed by criminals (gang members, armed robbers, etc.) who don’t give a tinker’s damn about new laws.

  87. Jay

    When a government speaks of disarming the people, then it is already far past time for the people to disarm that government. Such a government has not been trustworthy for some time.

    Specific efforts must be made to see to it legislatively that Diane Feinstein and all other politicians that attempt to destroy the second amendment are themselves disarmed as well as those who guard them. They will then have a chance to understand the plight of the common man in defending himself.

    What should concern the average American to the point of sleeplessness is the fact that depraved and psycho cases such as those who advocate gun laws are actually in charge of nuclear weapons, tanks, military jets, lasers, drones, aircraft carriers and a host of black ops weapons and communications devices that would make Adolph Hitler and Mao Tse Tung salivate.

    The hour is very late and these sickos are about to change world events in ways that most can’t even imagine.

  88. J Gibbs, PhD

    So, PREPARE for WAR and defend the Constitution or go down as slaves in the Socialist republic. It is TIME for ALL MEN to take a stand and fight these encroachment of liberty. If you are not ready and willing to do that, Then SHUT THE HELL UP!

  89. S

    And this will work how? The “Use a gun, go to jail” law ought to be enough. Now look. We just had a psycho cop out there on a rampage. He killed innocents and took hostages. if he is out there and comes to my door do you think I want a 5 shot revolver with ball ammo, or a AR15 with 30 hollow points? The police are not here to protect us, so basically we’d roll over and die. What needs to go away is the current administration who wishes to oppress those it represents. There is no way in the world the law will pass as described here, they are reaching for the sky in an attempt to get a few morsels. NEVER GIVE UP, NEVER GIVE IN. Hey politicians, you will NOT be victorious. Get used to it.

  90. ralph

    how many people dont have a drivers lic in the state of cali and drive drunk and kill people

  91. David

    YOu over paid S.O.B.’s, While you’re at it restrict the Medication that allows you to handle you F@#KEN KIDS! or the one that allows you to do your Job because without it you can’t function….Stupid ASSES! as if my AR can shoot someone from it’s Safe….This is why people are either leaving this state….Why don’t you ASSHOLES do something about the GAS PRICES!!! NO! why not you are all getting kickbacks from the oil companies…..

  92. Leftist

    I can’t wait for confiscation to begin!

  93. A. G. Waring

    Note that they are making it illegal to using or owning hollow point bullets, yet the DHS is buying millions of rounds of hollow point bullets. Makes you wonder who they are planning to use them on and why so much.
    They are also restricting cops from having more than 10 rounds of ammo. Is this just in case the cops may actually defend us? Yeah right!

    Most people do not know that the federal government has no rights to legislate against the whole country. They legally only have control over government buildings, government parks and Puerto Rico, as well as Washington DC. The only way they have to control the states is to refuse to give the states any money, so the states Kowtow to the Feds demands.

    I live in extreme northern California and I sure wish the original plan to separate northern California and southern Oregon and form them together to make the state of Jefferson.

    • Brandon

      The president of the United States is asking active-duty officers to pass a “litmus test” to continue their service to our country.

      The test: Will you open fire on American citizens if so ordered?

      “Here is the question we are being asked: ‘If in a scenario the military were called upon to go and confront people who were armed, American citizens, who would not relinquish their arms, in spite of the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms, would you follow the command to fire on American citizens?’”

      The general told Dr. Garrow that this officer was completely flummoxed at the question and answered ‘No, I would not fire on American citizens.’ He was then forced to resign his commission immediately.

  94. David K.

    So glad to be out of that nut ball state. By the way who are those eunuchs with the badges on their shirts?

  95. Brandon

    I can’t wait until all of these unconstitutional laws are struck down. If they aren’t, then I can’t wait to go to war with my fellow patriots!

  96. dan

    unjust laws placed upon law abiding citizens..will result in the cleansing of this country…..May the GOD of Abraham bless and protect..those that sweep the vermin from the Republic…amen

  97. Guy

    The DHS has an open order for Ammo ? I heard from my Ammo broker causing back orders and shortages no ammo and your AR any thing will be a Club and a heavyly armored Cop will due his duty arrest you illegaly or shoot you and save the hassle of any trials period the US Army North command under Bush and now Under Obama wil come down and take over America infrastruture !all commerce will be controlled by King Oboyo we are now a region under FEMA make No Mistake our MI complex want us To Live in a NWO period why you ask……..We are Broke the world is broke time for the mark from the beast as we witness the last Pope a black as the first Pope was black and Islam fly’s it’s flag over the U.S Capitol or will the Chinese or the Russians ? Only God Knows but have hope we will not lose or will we?

    The Whores in Hollywood do not care as they know who there master is they are doomed to hell we who are In Christ will, surley suffer until he saves us out of here ! all the kings men will not put America humpty back to geather again we are a Moraly corrupt Egg heads the materilaism, Abortionist Evil Nazis and Commies have taken America over we are witnessing Communist Insanity Bill Ayers Style !

    The ANTI };{ Waits !

  98. toofeathers

    All states need atomic, simi atomic, full atomic guns we need all forms of guns and more so we can life feed and protact our famliy our self and frends thats one way of life shows how we can do things for ourselfs and more it away of life and to keep us from diein so fight to keep us and our rights to buy and own those fire arms so be free and do whats right and keep our right to bear arms

  99. tcoates

    So who is going to protect our families from criminals and the mentally ill when you take the freedom of law abiding citizens to own guns and ammunition. For it will be those who will pay for the politicians walking all over the Second Amendment. I am glad I do not live in California, but if I did I would be moving to another state as soon as one of those unconstitutional bills made it to being a law. The way things are going it is looking to be something like martial law and citizens will have no rights. I wonder do the politicians know how many people will leave?

    • Jack

      Its really not so much as “how many people will leave, as it is, HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL DIE”, defending their rights.

  100. Lisa

    Banning guns is just the next step to the government having complete control over their subjects, (us). An unarmed society is easier to control, and they can be shot and killed without the risk of them firing back. We are becoming a nation of cattle… “Big government will take care of us..”. We need to lose this mentality am
    Nd start fending for ourselves before it is too late! Speak up and be heard by the idiots running the asylum before it is too late! Never give up your only protection from these greedy, power hungry idiots! I dont think Obama and his nut case legislators know what is best for me!

  101. terr

    Are we going to just post blogs and continue to complain about all this or are we going to stand up for our rights, common sense and do something about this stupidity????

  102. Uncle Jim

    Thankyou.

  103. Jerry Stauffer

    As a gun collector, as millions are, I have something like 17 types of ammunition. A 500 round limit would insure that people like me have NO ammo for some guns. I don’t have a bunker. I only have 20rds of 7.5x55mm, but even that would be impossible for that many calibers. Does this include black powder? On another note, has anyone in California ever heard of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution? The one about illegal search and seizure? House to house searches looking for something you have no evidence of the existence of violates our national law at the most basic level. This isn’t about murder, it’s about control.
    “Those who give up essential liberty for temporary security deserve neither”

  104. John

    The same rich liberals that are anti-gun have a private security firm guarding them and their family. What will a middle class family do, call 911 and pray.

  105. jeremt

    War is very close. If these liberals continue, I’m sure there will be blood shed.

  106. R. Glenn

    The only realistic thing to do is to exspel California, New York and Ill. from the United States. They need to take obama and his regime with them.

    • Rikkisan

      Second that! But only if DC goes as well.

  107. dane

    im bringing the challenge to your face obama!!!!!!!!! send your feds after my guns!!! i dare you!!!!!!!!!

    • dane

      by the way if he does come after me hes breaking my right to freedom of speech. just putting that out there.

      • Richard Davis

        The Secret Service has probably figured out who you are by now, although anger is understandable, some posts get very close to being under the scrutiny of the government, your anger should be with the completely mindless people who vote for these treasonous One World Wonders, I firmly believe if we had videos of Obama cannibalizing a three year old child 90% of the people who voted for him would say, “well it’s his culture from Kenya, where he was born, he really likes children” and the press would bury the story next to the obituaries in very small print…

  108. Doug Jeffreys

    It will be interesting to see if the citizens of California will have the balls to stand up to this obviously unconstitutional package of laws.

  109. Rob

    I’m sure the people who shot the kids in Oakland will be lined up to turn in their high capacity magazines if this bill passes. What an ignorant bunch. SMDH

  110. Kirk

    I smell a HUGE (and successful) lawsuit/injunction coming. I would also like to see the limits of legislative immunity tested – even these morons know this stuff is blatantly unconstitutional – and they are going ahead anyway. I wonder if Governor Moonbeam will veto any of these measures?

  111. Calisucks

    The people will not going to bow and obey these oppressive laws. Capacity and the scarcity of resources will not facilitate the mass prosecution and detention of law abiding gun owners.

  112. Bud

    I thought about taking my next tour in CA. NOT ANYMORE

  113. John

    Well. The idiots in CA voted for the democrats that are trying to illegally steal honest citizens guns. I feel like they are getting what they deserve. If they don’t like it. MOVE. Or Vote them out of office. But, this is the perfect reason why we can NOT have gun registration. It always leads to gun confiscation. Look at history. This is nothing new. So wake up, stand up, grow some balls and tell the government of California to go jump in a lake or better yet off a cliff.

  114. Sam

    Why do people think they can just keep regulating and banning all of society’s problems away? Society is way more depraved today than it was 200 years ago and more people 200 years ago had guns than today. What changed then? I will tell you- we have taken God out of our culture so no one has a basis for their actions and can essentially make up what they find to be morally acceptable. The numbers are out there!!! More guns equal less crime, so why are we even discussing this? ANY PERSON OR GOV THAT WANTS TO TAKE MY GUNS AWAY OR LIMIT THEM DOES NOT HAVE MY BEST INTEREST IN MIND! Duuuuhhhhh

  115. WakeUp

    This is exactly what you get when you allow CRIMINALS that came into this country ILLEGALLY and give them the right to vote…so now people that did not have to obey the laws to immigrate to this country are now the deciding votes on supporting this kind of UNCONSTITUTIONAL garbage…They couldn’t run Mexico…destroying California..

  116. Nico Fanelli

    Dumbshits better build more Prisons

    • we already have the FEMA camps

      we already have FEMA camps for our new jails

  117. CaliBornCaliDie

    I love California. Beautiful state. I’m from the mountains of rural Northern California. Traveled all over the state. It’s truly a great place. But our politicians make the most horrible decisions that have caused so many to leave this great state. TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT IS BAD GOVERNMENT.

  118. william

    I can not see how any infringement of our firearms will hold up. I am concerned that the people will start pushing back. needing a license is crazy. a license is not required for a right. there should be no compromising on our right. if you do then you will not have any more rights. who would try and take them.

  119. Jay

    I honestely just threw up in my mouth when I read and listened to the absolute filthy lies that spewed from these elected officials traps. None of what they suggest will cure or solve the gun violence. The firearms that they are so willing to ban at the drop of a hat account for a fraction of all gun violence in CA and the entire US. Where are they legitimately going to procure the money to fund these proposals? Isn’t CA broke? And since when is it legal to forcibly confinscate personal property without compensation? Unlawful search and seizure of private personal property, seizure of firearms from law-abiding tax paying citizens, huge violation of US commerce laws? Try prosecuting those perps with the harshest sentences when they committ a violent action with any weapon, stop slapping the wrists of criminals, and reinstate capital punishment. Should deter plenty. Quite penalizing law-abiding citizens!

  120. Someguy

    Hmmm… So conservatives are perfectly fine with denying gay people their 1st/14th Amendments, are fine with shoving Christianity down everyone’s throats in violation of the 1st Amendment & Treaty of Tripoli, yet get upset when someone tries to infringe upon their 2nd Amendment rights? What a bunch of hypocrites.

    BTW: I am Christian, I support the 2nd Amendment, but I disagree with suppressing others’ rights or forcing Christianity upon the nation. I don’t need the Government to force me to live by Christian standards by law; if I wanted to live in a country that did that, I’d move to Iran. Read the 1st & 14th Amendments along with the Treaty of Tripoli and you’ll understand that liberals aren’t attacking your religion, they’re just working towards separation of Church/State just as our founding fathers intended.

    • Someguy

      I meant to say in the second paragraph “If I wanted to live in a country that forced religion upon the people by law, I would move to Iran.”

      Remember, our founding father’s left their country fleeing from that type of government. On our money “In God We Trust” and “One Nation Under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance was added in the 1950’s. Our original founding fathers would’ve never allowed that.

  121. Dr. Louis DiTrinco

    I disagree with this communist legislation and politicians should be voted out of office since they obviously don’t support the Constitution. Hope this is overturned. Dr. DiTrinco

  122. Justin

    “Take the guns out of the hands of people who shouldn’t have them”

    Wait.. So if they know of the “bad guys” that have these guns, why not take them now if they are illegally owned.

    OR

    What they are really talking about is taking the guns out of innocent hands. Who are they to say the law abiding civilians shouldn’t have them…

  123. Mario L

    These Sacramento politicians are a bunch of morons they don’t get it, your restricting the law a biding citizens of this country, and people will move out of this state before giving up their firearms, when you see federal and state agents being shot when they knock at somebody’s door, maybe you will see we don’t all believe your bullshit.

  124. Jason Lee

    who IS that jackass!! Just another dumb MFer who wants some votes…Listen to what he says…….NO SENSE WHATSOEVER

  125. California the New Chicago

    This from a CLOWN of a man that has been part of a group that has allowed criminals and drug dealers to exit Mexico and Enter their state with their GUNS and remain there and help them stay. California you deserve what you get. Have you noticed the part about making you buy insurance to own a gun. What about the fact that 3000 men , wemon and children have been killed by accidents involving cell phones. That is only tha amount that they can docunent,could be more. Why are you doing nothing about that Clown.

  126. Richard

    Wow.. Nothing but mindless lies. These people seem to have no common sense. Insane zombies at best. These gun regulations have NOTHING to do with safety. It has everything to do with control. I don’t like the word moron..but these Communist bring a whole new meaning to the word.

  127. carman

    Would love to see the same logic applied to VOTING……EVERYONE needs to have a legal photo voter ID……..

  128. Ron

    Yep, I can see it now… Who will be elected to go door to door to enforce this? Darrell Steinberg or even Dianne Feinstein maybe? I do not know anyone in Law Enforcement that will. Is the government going to lead by example and eliminate the own semi automatic weapons and security detail teams that protect them or are they going to opt out simular to the Obamacare medical that they feel is not good enough for them but exception for us.

  129. What In The World

    If I lived in California, I’d move. No wonder they’re broke.

  130. Kir

    This country started when the world’s most powerful government raised taxes and then tried to take its citizens arms away at Concord and Lexington in 1775. Paul Revere and others risked life and liberty to warn the people.
    In our Bill of Rights, there is a reason #1 is freedom of speech and #2 is the right to bear arms. Those two rights were not so two people could speak to each other while hunting. It was so the people could have the same arms as their government. If that was not the case, we would still be ruled by a king or queen.

  131. Bob G.

    I was moved from a farm in Iowa to Cali in ’69 with my folks & siblings. Was the most anti-social place I had ever been. We packed up and came back to Iowa in ’70 cuz we all hated it there.Went back in ’86 for another chance at life there,moved back in 6 mo. for same reason 2 many assholes.It’s still the land of Fruits & Nuts.Keep your cracked eggs out there along with your FASCIST LAWS. Your all burr heads as far as I can tell. Wake the f*ck up before your all shuffled around like the sheep you have become BAAA

  132. Brian O'Meara

    Remember this at election time.

  133. JDM

    Grew up in California and from age 18 I knew I wasn’t going to stay there. Moved at 25 and have absolutely no plans on going back!

  134. Tionia

    Please show us the intire law, word for word they want to pass…. that is the only way to know for sure what they really want… FACTS I want to see the facts!!!

  135. Hoss

    This is the most disturbing video I’ve seen in a while. Notice the police officials in the background with their military style ranks (to include four stars). These police officials will take pleasure in taking guns from law abiding citizens. I find it’s time to move out of California to include my business. California has a strong history of coming up with laws that don’t work.

  136. MikeMike51Papa

    They want to create a hunting ground for criminals and the deranged; requiring greater taxation and surrender of liberties to provide “Protection” as the public is stripped of the ability to defend itself. The secret to acquiring power for the government at the local, state or national level is to not enforce law so that a case can be made, tragedy by tragedy through the machinations of the media and officials (appointed and elected)to “Clamp down”. When we hear the refrain “We need stricter laws because the laws on the book don’t work” it is the tragedy of Ignorance that will allow a people to be readily manipulated, and to slowly even incrementally accept slavery as a comfort and desirable outcome.

  137. Arnold

    This is simply absurd and scary. These liberals have no clue of the chaos that is going to be created by these laws. And they have no idea that violent people are going to be violent no matter what. And banning guns only makes it easier.

  138. D.A. Moran

    I hope they fight it, but its gonna be a warzone.

    High capacity magazines are NOT used in any of the alleged recent attacks. The Newton school attack was just another government job and the would be “assault” rifle was left in the car!!!

    Most murders are not even committed with guns. Most attacks involving guns are government jobs, fabricated news or exaggerated reports! Most crimes involving guns are usually with shot guns or pistols and done so by common street criminals. Or in this day and age, desperate fathers who can’t take care of their own family because the government is screwing us all over to begin with!!!

    Almost all crimes committed with guns are done so with shot guns and pistols!!! And are 99% of the time not by a licensed carrier!

    This has nothing to do with guns. This is an elaborate scheme to disable us and prevent us from defending ourselves against them!

    Any of you brainwashed idiots who think gun control is for your safety obviously never paid attention in history class!!!

  139. Eurus

    As a CA resident, I’m sorry that asshole politicians are fucking up everyone else’s day. I sure as hell didn’t vote for them.

  140. jim

    Why is there so much talk about taking guns from good citizens and not one damn time have I heard them say we need to take guns away from criminals. I think these mental fuckers are shooting the wrong people. .just saying they want mine they’ll get them one bullet at a time. I’ve served my country I’ve earned my right…….

  141. Bryan

    When it comes to voting I will not be voting for who is infavor of all of this nonsense. People are bad, if it isnt a gun it will be a knife or something else. Just give me the names of the politicians in favor of gun control so I know who not to vote for. Lets get ride of cars to there bad they kill thousands each year. Always the wrong people in office, sucks!!!

  142. A320pylt

    The modern day civil war is coming sooner rather than later. The people will not give up their rights these ignorant and foolish politicians are creating an issue that need not be created. The hell with the wars overseas we are about to witness a major war of the people vs the government. Sad really sad California, you should be focused on mental illness not trying to infringe upon the rights of the people.

  143. A320pylt

    What needs to happen and quick are RECALL ELECTIONS. CA is one of the few states that allow for the recall of senators and congress. THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN BEFORE THEY DO ANY MORE DAMAGE.

  144. Gregory white

    I see that Calif has finally gotten to the point where there is no common sense. There going to use whatever gun crime to outlaw weapons. The result will be Calif will be just like Illinios .with more gun crime by Crimnals. The people running this state have no idea and are doing a knee jerk reaction. I think it is time to,leave .

  145. Hans

    Americans! Stand up and fight! The dirty face of evil is spitting his hypocrite shit directly in your face! This man is laughing over all law abiding citizen of california! Wake up! It`s five to twelwe!

  146. LNEEL

    These motherfuckers are out of there minds. They are talking about confiscation. A direct violation of the 2nd Amdendment.

  147. Redfeather

    California is one Giant Mental Institution. Lets close off their borders.

  148. Mike OSullivan

    Start a Recall petition on Darrell Steinberg and make it a felony to put people like him in office

  149. American Eagle

    What are you people in California thinking? Are you trying to kick start another War in this Country? Now you are trying to make Law abiding citizens become criminals with the stroke of a pen? What you are doing is causing an uprising that will not go well. You cannot keep subverting the rights of people by making them criminals, you are messing with fire.

    • Justice4all

      You can’t blame all the people in California, there are alot of us that are God loving citizens. We vote and if the libs have more votes, then we loose, but that doesn’t mean the whole state is corrupt, just more idiots than sane people.

  150. clem

    thanks for giving this info out. How do i share this on a different site?

  151. clem

    We have to stop these guys!!

  152. Fukeallliberals

    I have not heard ‘one peep’ from the politicians how they plan to dis-arm the street gangs and criminals.

  153. Ganny

    CA Gang members will have party every night…. Sorry for my CA…. Hope you guys have some kind of shield against GANGS pistol… Oh Oops they shouldn’t have a gun right??? but the thing is THEY DO NOT FOLLOW LAW….. THEY WILL HAVE GUNS, and a LOTS of AMMO…

  154. mike

    Soon, there will be no law abiding people left in California, as this is becoming a NAZI state, of NON TAX PAYING thief’s (politicians) and TAKERS (non workers or illegals).

    That will be the best thing that could happen, as they will have to shoot it out amongst themselves, then no one will be left, and CA can start over.

  155. Ahr

    As Kali-fuwer-nee-yah goes, so goes the nation is old folklore.
    Part of the “goes” and the “so goes’ is DEFINITELY “going” to be…a lot of dead cops, National Guard and politiscum like this, no doubt, Israeli passport holder Steinbergwitzbloom.
    Spears, rocks, dull kitchen knives, ropes and lamp posts should be the instruments of harsh justice so that the bastids are denied the satisfaction of falling to a bullet.

  156. RealityCheck4U

    I’m glad I don’t live, vacation,hunt,or otherwise pay any attention to Commiefornia. Those folks are nutty as grandmas fruitcake. I think surrounding States need to fence in those folks so they don’t get out.
    Oh, Oh, I got it.. Require Californians to get a exit visa if they wish to leave the state.

    • Robert

      Require Californians to take Economics 101, statistics, and to give faith a chance, before they vote.

  157. Kyle Conselyea

    I thought Adolf was dead?????

  158. TjValion

    Proof once again, that California is full of lunatic-left, liberal nut-jobs that are COMPLETELY detached from the rest of the country (with the exception of Washington D.C.).

    • Justice4all

      Well you forgot another state, after all it was New York City that started all the shit. Thanks blooming indiot. PS he is now banning 2 litre Pepsi’s on Pizza deliveries, go figure that one out.

  159. xzoup

    Unfortunately mental illness is a much larger problem than it is given credit for, starting from mild anxiety, all the way up to severe schizophrenia, and every thing in between. It is also a very costly problem that may involved a doctors visit or a short term stay in a mental health facility all the way up to a life long chronic mental illness that may require long term mental health care along with all the always rising expensive medications that go along with this problem. You also have to factor in the cost of insurance and how to pay for mental health care for the many mentally ill people who are unable to work any longer. Some may have insurance but under some current insurance laws they will only pay for so much mental health care then they stop. My point is why wouldn’t some states put all there eggs in the gun control basket, that way they don’t have to worry about the mentally ill, they just tell citizens we’re dealing with something much more important.

  160. Mark Richert

    It is not the guns that are killing people nor the spoons and forks that make people obease it is the people. I am keeping what firearms I have and will keep hunting birds with them until I can not walk the hills withy my dog.

    Mark

  161. craig

    I would move to another state and see how California likes the lost tax revenue!

    • Ray G

      Agree, it is time to leave California

  162. Sting

    Unfortunately, this boycott everyone is talking about will fail due to a serious lack of conviction to stick to our principles until the work is done. Instead, we get busy, wrapped up in life, or maybe experience a little pain by our decision to take a stand, and then all too quickly decide “we’ve had enough”.

    For the most part, the masses just can’t wait for the next episode of “Housewives of Atlanta” or “The Bachelor”! Generally as a nation in trouble in so many ways, one would hope that we could collectively muster an attention span on the “real” issues that lasts longer than the next episode of TMZ!

    The Libtards are little more than brain-dead zombies that just spew the diseased and irrational propaganda of the Left. It’s the Leftist power-mongers that are the real threat. Make no mistake…they will see this country transformed to little more than a bowl of oatmeal if they are allowed to continue unchecked and unchallenged!

    We all need to get off our collective ass and use the voice that God gave us to call out the stupid, the lie, and the evil. Stand up. Stand firm. Stand tall. For as long as it takes!

  163. Joshua

    WHEN WILL THEY REALIZE THAT’S ONLY TAKING GUNS AWAY FROM LAW ABIDING CITIZENS. CRIMINALS GUNS AREN’T REGISTERED NOR DO THEY CARE ABOUT WHAT THEY’RE ALLOWED TO HAVE!!!!!!!!!!

  164. Doubting

    Since this story is over a week old, just wondering if this passed the California legislature and been signed off on by the governor, or is the headline just speculation and overtly misleading? Never heard the word confiscation in the video, and evidently missed the link to the actual documentation.

    • Gary

      It’s going to make instant felons of over 1,000,000 gun owners here in CA. It cannot stand up to legal scrutiny under ex-post facto laws. The cost of unlawful seizure would cost an already broke state billions of dollars and if you ask any LE officers they will be the first to tell you that they certainly don’t want to be the folks knocking on the doors to come and collect them.

  165. JimK

    Gonna make it kinda hard to make a lot of action movies isn’t it?

  166. Joe Dienstag

    China can start with California when they come to collect on our debt to them. If the people of that state can’t get their heads out of their asses and allow themselves to be disarmed, then so be it.

  167. Socialism at it's best

    I don’t live there, but it pisses me off. All they are doing is making law-abiding citizens criminals as well as making them vulnerable to the real criminals. So if someone gets robbed after they confiscate their guns or gets raped or beaten, can they sue the state for disarming them??

  168. wrh7

    who gave these pukes the right to destroy the Constitution…I pray the MOFOs try and come take my firearms from me…these sheople are AFU!

  169. CaliNative

    SOOOO….im a LAW OBIDING CITIZEN and Law Enforcement Officer that owns a gun…have NOT committed a crime, and yet California legislators have DEEMED ME a FELON if they pass this ridiculous policy package…. what we need to do is stand up and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. vote these people out…i have done nothing wrong and now with a stroke of a pen, banning ANYONE with a ‘detatchable magazine’ weapon is now a felon…

  170. Trappedincalifornia

    Hold on…slow down, I’m almost out is this stupid, knee jerk state!

  171. Gary

    Before you all work yourselves into a panic, stop and realize something.

    1) There are already 19,000 firearms KNOWN to be in the hands of people that are prohibited from having them. The DOJ bureau of firearms cannot even make a dent into that statistic as they are so underfunded and understaffed. Do you really think they will be able to round up and confiscate literally MILLIONS of guns from all the “instant felons” that will be created if they even attempt to pass that stupid bit of legislation. Think about it. The LE officers won’t want to be out there “confiscating” guns, the military definatly won’t be doing it. So just think about it logically. They can posture as much as they want, bottom line, they won’t be able to do a damn thing about it.

  172. Daniel

    I think all you who says we dont need to banned weapons are fawking idiots..the rest of the world should just put a 100 foot high wall around the USA and give you all the guns in the world so you can all shoot yourself so we dont have to hear your whining americains bitch ass ever. Get real idiots.

  173. Heather

    I do not think that will pass. It is obvious though where most of the serpent people are, guess reptilians still like warm weather/climates, Lol. If this goes through, California violent crime will elevate, & everyone with a brain will move away & take their tax dollars, income taxes, & property tax monies with them to somewhere else. They will lose their economy in California, they won’t even have their money from all the tourism, it will turn into a ghetto. They are stupid if they don’t realize this will drive people away from California & ruin t he economy of CA. If all the serpents then inhabit, maybe it’ll break off into the ocean like predicted & we’ll be rid of some evil control freaks. Californians better be squawking outrageously to their senators &congressmen. I’m praying against this. No precidence.

  174. Den

    The thing they don’t take into account when comparing cars and firearms is, number one, FAR more people die due to vehicles than firearms, and number two, which carries far more weight in my opinion, is that cars are not guaranteed by the constitution. Firearms are a guaranteed right, and it has nothing to do with hunting. It was developed during a time when our founding fathers wanted to ensure that a government could not oppress the people as they were. And this arbitrary ten round number is the worst idea ever. I understand fully automatic weapons, explosives, etc. being heavily regulated and permits for such items. But for semi automatic firearms that are not short barreled weapons, why? In general, if the government can own it, why shouldn’t the people? I have never illegally used a firearm, never been arrested, never been disallowed from owning a firearm, so why should the state turn me into a criminal for something that someone else did? Where did the responsibility go? Why don’t they look at the fact that firearms violence is actually a VERY small percentage?

  175. Mike M

    Feinstein, Boxer and this idiot Stienburg in the Cal senate must be some special kind of stupid if they think I will allow them to take my legally purchased ammo and weapons, semi-auto or not, high capacity mags or not. If I can not get them here in CA, we own houses in two other states who do not have those stupid restrictions and actually support our second admendment rights, I will go there to get what I want. Its not a matter of if I need the ammo or weapons. It’s because I have the right to own them. I spent 23 years in the military doing my duty to protect our rights to bear arms, and none of those stupid assholes will stop me from doing so.

    • Matt

      Mike MOVE NOW LOL

  176. Ed

    Here’s a thought, change your gun laws to allow open carry, and CCW “Shall issue” or consider CCW permits not required, and watch your murder rate plummet. Allow your law abiding citizens to protect themselves as mandated by the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Castle Rock vs. Gonzales does not require law enforcement to protect their citizens, so common sense would dictate citizens should be authorized to protect themselves beyond the Castle Doctrine.

    • Erica

      The only reason I would argue this is because Michigan is currently an open carry state. And from what I understand, and also depending on where you could get your info, the gun related crime rates are pretty bad in some areas, not so much in others.

  177. richard guise

    if you live in that commie state and own firearms legally i would be moving like today. i left there 13 years ago and it took me one day to sell house pack in big truck and haul my home life and guns outta there . and never looked back.
    gun owner and educator of the young . rrg

  178. richard guise

    if you live in that commie state and own firearms legally i would be moving like today. i left there 13 years ago and it took me one day to sell house pack in big truck and haul my home life and guns outta there . and never looked back.
    gun owner and educator of the young . rrg
    ps run baby run

  179. ray guise

    these stsatements aRE SO FAR OUT THERE IN SILLY LAND IT IS UN BELEIVSABLE THAT THEY ARE POLITICAL PEOPLE.
    I give it a week and there will be war on the streets with the leagal owners and if they loose and the stsate takes them then the bad guys will be all over the place . Cal if a bankrupt state now this will surly end any kind of survival posibilities . and the law men standing behind them as ordered to be there are looking a little blank in the face.
    am so glad i do not live in that so called nazi state of really passive dumb population to allow these few lost mental cases do this to them. fight now or die slowly under their communistic rule.

  180. Rob Jones

    California is taking careful aim at their own foot. Hey, if they want to chase away more of their tax base… that’s their problem. Wasn’t aware they had their fiscal house in such great shape they could afford that.

    But no doubt sweeping new gun laws will make them as safe as places like Chicago. Great move, fellas.

  181. Antonia

    OMG, can the California legislators get any more idiotic? Why don’t you spend your time improving the California economy? It was once the 7th largest economy in the WORLD. Now it’s only 9th and the way they’re chasing away businesses, it will only continue to go down…

  182. Heavy Hauler

    Once again these Liberal @sses finding ways to take guns away from law abidding citizens, the same ones who don’t go around shooting up the place. For weeks we have had to hear how they are going to control and take away my guns, but have failed to even mention how they plan to stop the real problem ILLEGAL gun’s used by criminals. I think these criminals are laughing and sitting back waiting for the streets and homes to be safer for them to carry out their illegal activities in relative safety. Show me one criminal or gang banger who is going to hand over their weapons – They don’t respect the law in the first place.

    These Democrats are a cancer of stupidity and are on a dangerous course.

  183. Jerry

    These anti gun politicians are like rabid dogs. What do we do with rabid dogs? We put them down.

  184. Matt

    To all the people in california that love the constitution and our 2nd amendment, eather stand your ground agains these libs and vote them out of office ASAP or like me “COME AND TRY TO TAKE IT, YOU CAN HAVE IT WHEN IM DONE WITH IT, CDH”

  185. If this passes, and I hope it does not even come close, but if it does, the politicians who wrote and passed it should “take the first step” and be the first to go house to house to collect weapons! They should be made aware of this before the law passes!

  186. Zach G

    So…
    What are the political options for someone who believes both republicans and democrats are full of idiots and on their own respective paths to tyranny, and can’t be libertarian because they see Randian philosophy/economics as too inherently flawed to take seriously? Are there any alternatives? Maybe it’s time to leave this country behind. :-(

  187. Zeekarius

    If there isn’t some sort of Gun Revolt among the states I will be surprised. I don’t know where these guys come up with these agendas, but they are all severely flawed. He compares car accident deaths to gun deaths as if he is on the brim of understanding, and then he goes all crazy and talks about banning a bunch of firearms lol. We need to find another abandoned island and start shipping these crazies out there to fend for themselves, so they know what it’s really like to have no guns. Lets see if they like that better.

    • keith

      I would vote to re-open Alcatraz. Or build a fence around New York (Just like the movie “Escape from New York”).

  188. Big Picture

    The problem in California is not with the legal gun owners. The problem is the violence being peddled from Hollywood and Silicon Valley to our youth and mentally unstable who are enamored with the glamour way it’s portrayed. Everyone can be the hero like in the movies or video game if they can just get enough bullets! Take a lesson from Downton Abbey, they offer great entertainment without the killings.

  189. Big Brother

    I am watching…

  190. jeremy

    First off new york and their retarded laws are under review now by the courts to determine if they are constitutional or not…which we all know tbey are not. Second you dumbasses who are throwing liberal around like an insult are part of a two party only system that the politicians set up. Liberal and convsertives can have common ideals. Not all liberals are gun hating right taking for your protection censoring assclowns. Same for the other party not all are gay hating hardcore christian close minded idiots. So relax. Fyi im non partisian so anyone calli g me either party side can get fucked.
    Finally this gun control bs needs to end. And the only way we ca do that long term ia to vote smart and back local canidates during elections. Not these big wigs with banks in their pockets but the small man who tries. We all know politicians lie. Its part of the job.

  191. jerejeremy

    One last thing. If they down end up trying to take civilians weapons…..lets just say your goi g to hear alot on the news bout riots and gunfights

  192. Jeffrey Franklin Cochran

    Tyranny, plain and simple.
    It’s not a matter of if there will be a civil war, but when.

  193. Laurence Opperman

    You people are total Idiots….. Your agenda will only create more crime. Criminals Do not give up their arms. Prepare for much more violence in California if your suggestions pass.

  194. jakers

    I would love to see any politician or law enforcement try to collect already registered guns. I bet the enforcers get shot like they should for trying to take second amendment right!!!

  195. Allen Myers

    And this is the reason I have moved from California..

  196. Adam Andersen

    This is unconstitutional therefore the police are not going to enforce that. Say NO. I will not comply.
    Very simple. Enough with punishing honest citizens because of the actions of some criminals and mentally unstable people.
    AMERICANS WILL NOT ALLOW TO BE DISARMED AND UNPROTECTED. IT IS IRRATIONAL AND IRRESPONSIBLE AND ILLEGAL.

    • Don

      This is indeed a clear violation for the Bill of Rights and is completely illegal. These assinine politicians have no idea what they speak about and use numbers and statistics that just do not add up.

  197. John

    Yeah, get the 14,000 guns out of the 19,000 homes, wait a minute . . . Somebody cant do math.

  198. tom avagliano

    There is no point in listening to these polititons any longer. The fact remains that law abiding citizens with guns don’t get into trouble with their weapons.this only proves that the govt is trying to completely disarm everyone so they can destroy us. …its just so obvious. Even a fetus could figure this out

    • Sandra Roth

      Amen Brother.

    • Tom Watkins

      California is a special kind of stupid, with Jerry Brown it is hopeless. You must remember, in order to get a cushy job in DC you must 1st entertain the “Head Muslim in charge” Feinstein wants a job in DC! These Demos are doing these radical things for personal gain.

    • Kathy Page

      I don’t like to shoot guns; however, lots of my friends and family do (we don’t live in CA either). If the gov. regulates guns by taking them away from the law abiding citizens, they only leave them vulnerable to the criminals that do not intend to give their guns up. And even if the gov. took them away from the criminals, they would just buy them illegally or steal them again. We, as law abiding citizens, will need to keep our guns safe from theft any way we can but, at the same time, have them quick at hand if we need them. This is only common sense not a love of guns and shooting them.

    • Drago

      I thought this discussion was about being against gun control and/or bans and not against anyone political party? No matter what the party is, you will always have differing views on who, what, when, where, and why the United States of America exist in the first place. We all have our own vision of what Utopia should be. But, there is one thing that I am sure about, and that is our constitution, which has mad America the most powerful nation in the world in the shortest period of time than any other nation that came before us. America has been around only for 200+ years. It other countries thousands of years before they became a national power (Germany, Italy, Russia, England, and so on). The most efficient and effective way to kill a nation is to infiltrate and gut its moral and ethical values and create in-fighting amongst is people; and it’s already showing through out forums and blogs like this. Stay focused and stay banned together to fight the good fight in solidifying our foundation of freedom (Constitution), let the dust settle, and then we can solve our differences like normal disfunctional families do. Be slow to hate and quick to love. God bless all of you and God bless our country.

    • Rich Pierce

      To call a Rugar 10/22 an assult rifle has to be insane at best . they are a target, small game varmit rifle at best…..lets vote out the incumbents that are for there vote in sac.watch their voting records and vote them out!

  199. Mark

    Isn’t Cal. bankrupt??….Oh sorry you don’t get a say so in any Gov’t plan…..your not putting into the big pot….

    • Drago

      Yes, CA is just about bankrupt. And, the Cali powers that be is solving it by raising DMV reg fees, Corp. health taxes, employment taxes, road taxes . . . Oh wait, Gov. J.Brown said he wouldn’t raise taxes if elected. OK then, lets change the word taxes to “fees” . . . yes that’s much better. But, there’s one problem to raising taxes/fees, a tax on 0$ (from lack of income) = 0$ so now CA has to borrow from the Govt. who borrows from China who makes money from the our huge trade deficit to them and in turn makes money (China) from selling firearms to countries that hate America . . . hmmmmm it doesn’t equate.

  200. ooort

    hope they really understand the environmental impact this will have because this will make all forms of hunting with a firearm illegal and in turn cause booms in certain wildlife which will lead to overpopulation, starvation, disease, and the decimation of their precious “green planet”. All because law abiding citizens are vilified by the cowards who don’t understand that said citizens have absolutely NO negative impact on the world with their firearms.

    This is a blatant disregard of the 2nd Amendment and I truly hope it doesn’t pass. Because I know many firearm owns that will gladly give their life before they give up their right to bear arms. If a piece of legislation like this passes I truly fear there will be many citizens who are legal-turned-felon that will die in the process of this “confiscation”. I hope I am not correct in that assumption and I certainly would not want that kind of blood on my hands.

  201. Sandra Roth

    I wonder what this guy’s plan is when he is prosecuted for treason against the United States of America and the constitution.

  202. nnbo

    Ain’t skeert. This encompasses an overt violation of our Second Amendment rights. But just in case … stocking up. Time to revisit Red Dawn.

    • Drago

      I’ve been saying it for years since it came out “Red Dawn could happen, and not if, but when”

  203. STU M

    I have many many guns. I collect them. I hunt with them. This Gov’t (state)can take one or all of my guns over my dead body. I cannot fathom what would take place in between. What a disgrace for those of us who own guns to live with this threat.

  204. Scott

    Who is this dumb ass speaking, leading the group? California, you people are off your rocker. What will happen is people will start dying when the people start shooting back because they have been pushed too far. I have no compassion for the politicians that suffer the consequences of their actions.

  205. Wendy

    I thought when you were elected as an representative of the people, (State Representative, State Congressman, any elected official), that you:
    1. Understand the Constitution of the United States
    2. Agree and UPHOLD the Constitution.

    So, what has happened here in the last 20 years? Only power seeking officials are demanding more and more control of the people and striping our rights away….We CANNOT let this continue. We have to make a stand. Where are all the TRUE Patriots of our country? I, for one, will stand strong against tyranny, and will NOT let ANYONE take any of my firearms or stash of ammo. Who else agrees?

  206. Snow

    ive seen video interviews recently of soldiers admitting that the US military is training them to use guillotines here, & many are refusing that training when they realize what it’s for. if they have the balls to pull this off they better have the balls to die trying to enforce it, because they’re going up against MILLIONS of people who refuse to sit quietly & watch these assholes turn America into the scene of the world’s 24th holocaust. the civilian population outnumbers all current law enforcement military & government personnel by over 275,000 to 1, and you KNOW at least over half of our military is going to refuse such orders & stand with the people – because they ARE the people. if they want to commit such suicide by attempting this kind of BS, that’s their choice, screw ’em.

  207. Dean

    So 1st does this mean that Hollywood will not be able to shoot movies with guns in them in Kalifornia do to the magazine capacities and that they have infringed on the 2nd amendment were does this fall

  208. Roger Wilkinson

    It is a reason to eject California from the USA. To intentionally violate by choice the Constitution of the United States is an EJECTIONABLE ACTION. Get out of the USA you Nazi Commie Tyrants.

  209. Mike Carpenter

    cant understand the 500 round thing if you are a acitive recreational shooter 500 rounds is the smallest case price where you start getting a break on price so if you have two guns you would want to buy two 500 round boxes in the different calibers

  210. Mike

    This is really heart-breaking. The solution to end gun violence is to get to the root of the problem not pick on law abiding citizens. I really hope that none of these proposed laws get approved. People who are not marksmen, riflemen, hunters, etc. don’t understand that firearms are just as safe as anything else if the operator is knowledgeable and experienced in their use. If there must be a license like for a car then there should be no limit on magazine capacity and type of action (semiautomatic vs. manual operation) for the person who obtained that license. The license should consist of a thorough enough background check that the person who obtains it should be cleared. Basically we hard working law abiding citizens who happen to be carrying on an age-old tradition are being targeted for our way of life by people who have no understanding what so ever of marksmanship and the usage of firearms. The people making the laws are looking at criminals activities and then applying it to us.

    • mike

      I might add, being a marksman and 2nd ammendment supporter and owning an AR15 target rifle I think that California would set the standard if a firearms license system was put into place where if you had the license then you can purchase any firearm you want and any type of magazine you want. Kind of like if you have a drivers license you can purchase a Ferrari or a Ford. That would make everyone happy. Everyone with a firearms license must take classes on firearm safety and have an approved safe. But then the type of firearms they purchase is not restricted. Especially if we need to purchase liability insurance. We should definitely be able to own an M1 Garand for example (one of the most historic and beautiful rifles I might add that has an internal 8 rnd clip well but is semiautomatic).

  211. Bud ...

    Well I hope they don’t come to my house. The saying goes, when guns Are outlawed only outlaws will have guns. So true

  212. Drago

    The nazi’s are coming . . . the nazi’s are coming. It’s time to get the heck out of socialist/communist/fascist/statist/progressivist Kalifornia. If this passes, there will be an extreme increase in rape, pilidging, murder, maham, drugs, addicts, money laundering, etc. etc. etc. than ever before. It’s not about public safety, it’s about a control of inventory (sheep/people) without resistance and a takeover of the free people. When this happens, America will have its 2nd world war, because the people will again get sick and tired of yet another tyrannical government similar to the British during the 18th centruy. The sad thing is that some people are buying into it. God have mercy on us all.

    • Drago

      Correction: ” . . . 2nd Civil War.”

  213. keith

    Is it time to set off charges along the San Andres fault yet? This maybe what is meant by “If the hand offends thee, remove it”.

  214. Darren

    How are we going to stop this?

  215. warrelic

    Leave it to the socialist republic of Kalifornia to come up with proposals like these. How many of the people standing there have armed security details that have clips for their firearms holding more than ten rounds? Hey, we have to protect our public servants don’t we?LOL! What we are witnessing is the the gradual erosion of gun rights, not just in Kali, but nationwide as well. These people would like nothing better than to eliminate the 2nd amendment altogether. It’s no wonder this state is on the verge of bankrupty with these bleeding hearts and this proposed legislation. There are enough gun laws on the books in every state and this proposed legislation would not have stopped any of the recent tragedies. In view of the bombings in Boston, I wouldn’t be surprised to see legislation in Kali and elsewhere proposing the outright ban on sales of pressure cookers!

  216. mike

    Obama said he wouldn’t take our guns away. This man and his dem cronies are doing everything they can to walk all over the Constitution. The pres. is taking away our liberties, selling guns to the cartels, using drones to kill Americans, has ruined our middle class, had hIgh unemployment rates, used the IRS on special Interest groups, signed the small arms treaty to back door the constituting on gun tights and on and on. I don’t understand anyone that sides with him. He is ruining our country!

  217. Bo Carter

    Any of these attempts to infringe on the legal, licensed, trained, and insured gun owners are a direct violation of or second admendment rights. As the law state simply” these rights can no be infringed upon”. Simple and direct. Any infringement on our second admendment is a direct violation of our constitional rights.

  218. Singh

    Thanks

  219. Tony

    These bills are obviously on semi-automatic weapons such as M4 and AKs. yes they also talk about rifles with thumb holes. bullet buttons etc. Did anyone notice that all of their facts are based on all guns. 2800 was the number he used. These laws do not reduce those numbers. Do they not understand that these laws don’t reduce the numbers because in the majority of these situations, the criminal did use a different weapon such as a handgun, or they would simply use a different gun. 500 rounds? when has someone committed suicide using 500 rounds? accidents using 500 rounds? that bill is bogus.

  220. Paul

    I’m sure it’s been said already BUT, it definitely needs to be repeated 1’000’s of times… Gun-laws have NEVER applied to criminals getting ANY kind of firearm or doing ANYTHING they want. Gun-laws ONLY affect law-abiding gun-owners. Sure, some gun laws stop criminals from buying guns LEGALLY…but…why do you think criminals have weapons that you and I probably won’t be able to own or even see in person? They get it off the streets, through ILLEGAL arms deals, etc, etc. ILLEGALLY! All the gun-laws in the world will not stop the criminals—it will only leave US, the good-guys, defenseless and take away LEGAL rights. If you change that right, then you may as well re-write the WHOLE Constitution (which seems to be happening anyway). More importantly though…this is about MY (YOUR), law-abiding citizens, right to protect yourself and enjoy freedom. Police can’t help you all the time (they can’t be everywhere), and criminals have MORE rights than you! Anyway—adding more and more gun-laws will NEVER stop criminals from getting and using a gun. Even taking all the guns away from us will never stop criminals from having them. If laws in general worked, crimes would never happen. Sorry, for rambling-on (I know it could have been shorter).

  221. katy brown

    omg…the reactions on this page are just absolutely astoundingly ridiculous! all of you gun lovers are very much to blame for this over reaching legislation. instead of sitting at the negotiating table and hammering out wise legislation, such as background checks, stopping the massive unchecked sales at gun shows, stopping private sales from gun owners, etc and so on, this is what we have now.

    you had numerous opportunities to be reasonable. but you refused to take any type of logical steps to do so.

    i and many of my friends that are yes, LIBERAL (omg, there is that dirty word), do not believe in lists. but i do believe in background checks. i do not believe that any military style weapon should be made available to joe the plumber, which goes to private gun owners selling this stuff.

    i also believe that all of you deliberately forget the other half of the 2nd amendment. for some convenient reason, the only part that matters to you is “right to bear arms”. if you would read the entire amendment
    “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” how many of you are with a well organized militia that is ready to defend us from a dictator?

    here is the u.s. supreme court ruling on banning weapons.

    In United States v. Cruikshank (1876), the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that, “The right to bear arms is not granted by the Constitution; neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence” and limited the applicability of the Second Amendment to the federal government.[2] In United States v. Miller (1939), the Supreme Court ruled that the federal government and the states could limit any weapon types not having a “reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia”.[3][4]

    i believe you should read more than just comic books. hey, how about picking up a copy of the constitution and actually comprehensively reading it for a change.

    • Joe

      That the reason they want your guns so you can’t fight back. Gun control works. Ask the people in China, Cuba, South America, before World War 2 hitter band all private gun. And when they came for the Jews, we see what happens. They cant fight back. The U.S. Governments told the Americans Indians, give us your guns and we take care of you. And we seen what happens.

    • Joe

      Katy, You must be with handgun control. That’s the bull shit they put out. When the government has all the guns. There will be no rights.

    • Derek

      All of the the restrictions you mentioned in your first paragraph are ALREADY laws in California.
      Gun laws do not apply to criminals. Even if we doubled the firearms related deaths, it would not eclipse the deaths caused by DUI. I don’t see you advocating banning of cars or booze.
      The left’s logic on the gun issue is soft headed and lazy.

      And to correct your ignorance regarding milita I offer the US Code.

      U.S. Code § 311 – Militia: composition and classes
      (a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
      (b) The classes of the militia are—
      (1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
      (2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
      (Aug. 10, 1956, ch. 1041, 70A Stat. 14; Pub. L. 85–861, § 1(7), Sept. 2, 1958, 72 Stat. 1439; Pub. L. 103–160, div. A, title V, § 524(a), Nov. 30, 1993, 107 Stat. 1656.)

  222. Woody W Woodward

    I believe that ALL California’s criminal population will line up and turn in their guns and ammunition … as soon as the devil manages to get his tongue unstuck from the frozen flagpole out in front of his palace in hell.

    The only thing this legislation will accomplish is to make criminals of heretofore law abiding citizens. It’s not about the guns, it’s about control.
    [W3]

  223. Bucky

    I live in a tough neighborhood with troublemakers as neighbors. Instead of being prepared for trouble I will have to be prepared to become a victim.

  224. Chuck

    I am working on getting my affairs in order so that I can get the hell out of this state!

  225. Waitiniwa

    If you ban ownership of guns in california by it’s citizens; then restrict the polic and all law enforcemnet personnel to give up their weapons as well.

  226. Freedom Man

    Do you really think the millions of law abiding gun owners in this state are going to allow you to pass such ridiculous draconian do nothing laws and just accept it? I hope somewhere in your feeble liberal misconceptions you realize that Americas next civil war will start right here.We are prepared for you and or any attempt to disarm us. Are you prepared?

  227. Ernie

    I thank God I don’t live in California! You you guys are beyond screwed up! Hopefully the big one will come and take you California liberals out! You and every other liberal fail to see the real problem! There is no talk about the real problem and how to solve it. Think about it ….if you can. Did we all have these issues when we were growing up? Hell no. We had guns mental illness etc. so what has changed since we were growing up??? Think real hard cause I’m about to turn the light on for you dumb asses! Two things notable. The abuse of the 1st amendment. Every thing is about freedom of speech. We didn’t have this much
    Turmoil over the 1st amendment when we were growing up! Freedom of speech protects your bullshit gangster rap that glorifies violence in it self! I don’t think our fore fathers had this in mind when they wrote the bill of rights. The other thing is technology and freedom of speech protects technology. This is why California could not ban violent video games. That’s right violent video games that you so called good liberal parents are allowing little Billie to play. What do you think this poor kids mind is trying to process when he uses a control in his hands to walk into a room or a battle ground or street and blow everybody away? Jesus Christ, you are letting him form his own values by leaving the young mind alone that cannot process this type of brain input in a good way. He sits in front of the TV (by himself) and is expected to stay out of your hair while you submerge yourself in your iPhone computer iPad etc! I’m not saying every kid will turn out that way because of games but I guarantee you that every one of the mass killed had some sort of video stimulation that shaped his mind some way. You notice that I keep referencing he. That’s because the majority of violent video games are played by male children. You don’t see a girl doing mass killings do you???? Hell no! Wake up! It is going to take a long time for us to correct this issue but the only way to correct it is to get back to family basics. Not take the guns away…..that’s just freakn stupid. But California, practically your entire state is whacked when it comes to values!

  228. Joe

    If I lived in California and owned any type of gun. I would move out. If you owner of any type gun the states wants to ban. I would drive to Vegas, rent a secure storage place and have those guns out of the state when state storm trooper comes by to pick them up. I bet a lot of people will be buying there ammunition in Nevada where they don’t need a license. I willing to bet the bangers on the street will have there auto load hand guns and rifles. Gov. Brown has 24/7 bodyguards. It going to get to the point, when a bad guy is shooting at you. All you will have to shoot back is your middle finger. Then that will get shot off. I live in a southern state that is very good to gun owners. But what I fear is Obama will sign some order banning guns. And federal officers and troops will be out kicking doors and taking our guns. If that 500 round law was passed in my state. I would be in deep shit. For I have over a 500000 rounds in storage. I’m going to get more.

  229. Pateo

    Sounds like their performing a test. Hope not too many people get hurt.

  230. Zionien

    Ok – And WHO are the mass majority of LiberAholes, And DemonCraps…. Hint – starts with a “J” and is 4 words long…. BINGO – “j-w’s”/ WORMS!!!

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