Report Prepared for Obama’s DHS & DOJ targets Survivalists, Patriots & Conservatives as Terrorist Threats

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foundingextremistsThe Southern Poverty Law Center, a group who regularly attacks patriotic Americans by masquerading as a civil rights group, is compiling lists and conducting surveillance on what it calls “patriots”, “survivalists”, and “conspiracy theorists”. Even more disturbing, is the access this group has to the Obama administration’s Department of Justice.

In a report prepared for U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) is asking the Federal Government to create a new inter-agency task force which will be dedicated to tracking and taking down conspiracy theorists, survivalists, “Patriot groups” and the “American radical right”.

The Government Supported Attack Group, who is actively creating lists and conducting surveillance on Americans, says the following people need to be tracked by the Federal Government.

  • Those who talk about, or believe in Conspiracy Theories.
  • Those who talk about or believe in Agenda 21 — a United Nations sustainability plan that was signed by President George H.W. Bush and is part of a plan to impose socialism on America and strip away private property rights.
  • Those who believe that the government is poised to take their guns.
  • Those who believe the President is trying to impose Socialism on the American people.
  • Those who call themselves Survivalist or belong to Patriot Groups.
  • Right-wing groups like the Tea Party, the Constitution Party, the Oath Keepers, or other “conspiracy-oriented Patriot groups”

The report was written by J. Richard Cohen, President of the SPLC and a member of the Department of Homeland Security’s Countering Violent Extremism Working Group.

The fact that our government entertains the thoughts of a raving madman is a testament to how far this country has fallen from its founding doctrines. How a person who labels patriotic Americans as a terrorist threat is allowed to work with the federal government, especially at a time when the DHS is in the middle of so many Spying & Drone Scandals, is a complete mystery that should scare the hell out of every American in this country.

We have a government who is declaring war on the thoughts, opinions and principles that founded this country. When a man who declares Patriots to be a “terrorist group” is allowed such high level access to our leaders, there is something seriously wrong with our system.

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  1. JAS says:

    Drones, armored vehicles and billions of rounds of ammo? I suspect they are planning to make prepping/survivalist/stockpiling and illegal act and start cracking down on us. The federal government is up to something no good and I expect it will break loose in the near future. Get what you can, while you can and make plans to hide it.

    • James says:

      Yeah, it’s almost like we have a military or something. You morons.

      • Steve White says:

        James we can tell by your comment that you will be a VICTIM so you are useless to us….buh by

        • gman0528 says:

          Well I can say there is no help for people like James but thank God there are some patriotic people here saying the same things that I have been telling people about for almost a year now finally some smart people that can see what our corrupt government is doing to this beautiful country that we live in God Bless you all!!!! well except James..

          • blindmanspeaks2deafmute says:

            U must have compassion for people like James, They are deaf dumb and mute or perhaps a paid gov’t goon. They will see things happen right before their very face and not believe.

            To THOSE that SCOFF and make light of me I quote “Those conspiracies that are too incredible to be believed, are by the same right those which most often succeed.”

          • Dustin says:

            Since the Patriot Act I, I have been trying to make people aware of the dangers of an overpowering federal government. Every year it gets worse. I have been called all kinds of names by sharing the truth people please bear in mind that the well informed patriot today was just like James “yesterday”. I have in the last several months stopped spreading information beyond those I interact with in person. I am tired of being called all manner of foul things when trying to help my fellow Americans, those who refuse to accept the hard facts in front of thier faces deserve exactly what is coming.

          • Salty-Tea says:

            James and his ilk will be very useful…….as sandbags!

      • Joe says:

        James are you a shill for the government or just that ignorant? There is a big difference from arming the military to arming an illegal police force called Homeland Security.

        Homeland Security is not the military and them buying over 2 billion rounds of ammo and a whole fleet of spy drones is very frikin troubling. It’s people like you who have allowed this country to be taken over by criminals.

        • survivalbiker says:

          While we in the military suffer with insufficient ammo supplies to even re-qulify on our own weapons no less…

          • Bubba Hotep says:

            It seems that, at least to some self annointed important and self loving people like Diane Feinstein, all veterans and military have PTSD and shouldn’t be allowed to own weapons or ammo. Additionally, Barry O is letting Big Sis et al to stock up on billions of rounds of ammo and thousands of ARs that should be going to the troops. Ooops, they fear you guys also! So, US troops, who ya gonna join up with when Obummer decides to start shootin and dronin US citizens in the USA?

        • icetrout says:

          It(James) is just a paid shill… pay no attention to it…

      • bill o'rights says:

        James, it’s not the military that has bought up nearly two billion rounds of ammunition in the last ten months, it’s the Department of Homeland Security.

        For some perspective, consider that the entire U.S. military used a total of 70 million rounds in 2003, during the height of the Gulf War.

        Consider, also, that the majority of those rounds are hollow point rounds and sniper ammunition. Hollow points are actually banned, under the Geneva Convention, which is no doubt why DHS is claiming that these rounds are for ‘practice’.

        James, you better wake up fast…not too much time left before we say “I told you so”.

        • ding says:

          James is awake, he’s willing and able to side with those who will bring horror America and Americans.

          James knows who he is.

          • icetrout says:

            DHS workers put their family’s & homes @ risk if they fire on American Citizens… it won’t go well for them no matter what the Obamadyke says…

          • Gandalf the Gray says:

            Well, you got the first part of your name right. Now, for the last part. Want a clue? It starts witha ‘B’.

        • matt says:

          it’s actually banned under the hague convention of 1899. common misconception, but still banned in INTERNATIONAL warfare none the less. either way, they certainly aren’t intended for training.

      • Don says:

        DHS is not the military. Go back in your crib little boy. Quoting Captain Chuck Nash from this week “They don’t buy it unless they INTEND TO USE IT”

        • wake up….they control barry’s private army…the one he tpld us all about it! have you been living under a rock??? moran….

      • Gyro says:

        James,

        Are you that clueless about history and don’t know that NOT all Military personnel will take side with the Government when the STHF? There are vast numbers of Oathkeepers who will NOT follow unlawful orders by their superiors.

        In recent history alone, a hodgepodge of guerilla fighters overcame their governments (like Libya, Egypt, and now in the process–Syria) and actually succeeded in their quest for freedom.

        The people and the patriots who

      • Can you elaborate just a little bit about your comment?
        My home was raided and my wife & I were injured by the county sheriff’s department, because I stood up for my rights in court on one occasion.
        After the raid, we found out that we were labeled as “Constitutionalists”.
        This is why they raided us.

        So, go ahead and keep on thinking we’re morons because we’re skeptical of the SPLC’s agenda & that of this regime.

        Oh, I forgot to mention that the sheriff’s department is trained 4 times a year by the SPLC, teaching them to watch out for all of the above listed “threats to the regime”…

        I would love to see the look on your face when they come to pick your stupid ass up. OH WAIT! You’re one of them, more’n likely, so you will be one of those who rat out their neighbors…
        Good luck with that, asswipe.

        • Neil says:

          God, this whole thing sounds like Hitlers wet dream… those fools have no dignity left, licking Hitlers balls everyday for a paycheck.

          How do you think they got to you, Bear? Was it a citizen informant, or, was LE spying on you?

          • fishy says:

            Bogus phone call from a neighbor. Bear got in trouble by standing up for his rights in County Court. When a neighbor made the call, rather than just go check it out like a normal call, they – in their own words – “Went Bear hunting.” I’m a friend of his, and I can vouch for the peace loving, Law (real law) abiding nature of this couple. It is that love of real law that the SPLC considers a threat, because real law WILL have their asses tried for treason.

      • DoingMoreWithLes says:

        DHS doesn’t buy 1.6 billion rounds of ammo for the military. DHS doesn’t buy 2,700 armored vehicles for the military. DHS doesn’t buy 7,000 AR-15s for the military. The military buys it’s own gear with the 700 billion dollars it gets to burn every year. DHS has it’s own money to burn every year. Maybe if the Federal Government stopped burning money every year the country might be better off. Just a thought.

      • Dave says:

        That’s the Department of Defense you jackass. They are in control of our military and it’s reasonable to expect them to have that kind of an ammunition count. There is no reason though, for the Department of Homeland Security to have over one billion rounds of ammunition. What do they need that amount of ammo for? It’s not for defending our country from foreign invaders, that’s for sure.

      • Ken says:

        Yeah James, the Military really needs HOLLOWPOINT ammo (which by the way is against the GENEVA CONVENTION), and cannot be used in a time of war (except in the US against US CITIZENS) has NOTHING to do with the MILITARY asswagon

      • Joshua says:

        DHS does not supply military with ammo JAMES,.. The DOD does.

      • Chuck says:

        The things that they ordered are not for use by the military, unless they make Posse Comitatus completely null and void. The armored vehicles, ammunition, and drones they’re ordering are for use in our streets by the DHS or law enforcement, which should have no use for that amount of equipment unless they’re preparing for something huge.

      • dave says:

        James the billions of rounds of ammo and armored vehicles, drones etc are not for the Dept. of Defense, they are for the DHS. The amount of ammo and weapons is way more than the entire DOD’s budget normally spends in an entire year, much less for a war lasting 20 years. But yet supposedly we are cutting back on defense spending, giving large numbers of Military personel their discharge papers, and Obama claims we are in a “sequester”?? You need to do the math, know the facts behind the crap before you just go and judge. The numbers don’t add up, the bullets and guns have nothing to do with the Military, it is all the DHS.
        Wake up from the Obama induced stupor you’re in.

      • Enter your name... says:

        ..lol… Nice Shill’ish, Sheople comment, retard…uhh..ya’ got your 5-secs. of flamed-fame, you happy, hunny?! (xD)

    • Adam says:

      Hey you all need to read this again….”In a report prepared for U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) is asking”….IN A REPORT…This does not say that the US ATT GEN is asking for this it says they perpared a REPORT THAT some whack job was asking for this shit….You should research all the “REPORTS” that they have file. Just like the police they have to investigate EVERY EVERY CALL THEY GET. They don’t get to choose which call they investigate!!

      • joel elrod says:

        Ha , you should listen to Eric Holders speech about brainwashing our kids if you don’t think that he set about to get all our guns. He says that students in school should be told every day that guns are bad and that people shouldn’t carry a gun!!!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYyqBxD-3xw

        • Kenzob Breaze says:

          It’s hard to believe there are fools still around that believe a single word Eric Holder says. Useful Idiots!

      • old soldier says:

        Just a note for those interested: these people do training for the police and law enforcement. In short, whatever is in that report will be a part of training given to law enforcement. Not an opinion. A fact.

      • john says:

        They don’t? The Hell you say.

      • Keith Woodward says:

        I don’t think these people want to deal with the facts, but thanks for trying.

    • Mister Jimmy says:

      Practically speaking, a lot of them look like middle-aged alcoholics and over-eaters. They don’t look ‘ready’ to go to war against anyone and I don’t think they have had any such training ( that I know of.)

      In case of a social meltdown, which will follow the crash of the dollar, there will be ‘turmoil.’ Armories, weapons, and ammo will then be seized I would guess, since it happened that way in Russia 1917, and even in the South when the War Between the States began. There are defensive means to those armored vehicles, too, known to armed forces of any nation. And it will be unlikely that the US government will get ‘help’ from any foreign country (other than puppets forced into action,) in using violence toward the American people. It is also doubtful that the US armed forces, at the time of the crash, will, across-the-board, shoot and kill the American people, though there can be no doubt some will.

      • American.Jones says:

        I read an article last week that suggests this corrupt gov’t w/b taking guns from ex-military persons. They know these brave souls w/fight for US. citizens, not them. Perhaps we all need to read up on our history (before the feds remove all writings of civilian revolt)and find the methods that worked to keep our arms and win this war against this tyrannical dick-tator.

      • denbenenki says:

        “It is also doubtful that the US armed forces, at the time of the crash, will, across-the-board, shoot and kill the American people, though there can be no doubt some will.”

        the US citizen should be aware the US soldier is not a fellow citizen but an un-mercy-nary, that means an armed employee of a private security company, which means they will not hesitate to shoot, and they are certain to treat any citizen as disposable as they have full immunity.
        Therefore, your reliance that “some will” be violent is vulgar as it might mistakenly comfort a reader when we all need be alert!

    • Archer says:

      If ye love Slavery better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!” ~ Sam Adams 1776

  2. Sol says:

    this is more disturbing than i thought. we can be targeted simply for what we believe? simply because we store extra food (in compliance with govt recommendations to have food storage i might add) and because we may or may not enjoy the shooting sports?

    why not target gay groups? or any other group that is outside the mainstream…or is that the issue. truly conservative individuals are now to be treated as a persecuted minority?

    • James says:

      Looks like someone thinks minorities get a raw deal or something.

      • Sol says:

        no. not today anyway. there are historical examples of that being the case but now, minorities are protected.

        that’s whats so unusual in this instance. you’re talking about a minority of individuals and instead of being protected by the government they will instead be targeted.

        that is new. that is different.

      • Concerned says:

        I hope you are the first one they target James…If you are even really James or just one of their trolls….

    • Greg Peters says:

      the govt wants us to keep 3 days of food and water. just look at how long New Orleans waited for FEMA. They want us to think we are prepared and when the realization comes that we are not, we will be dependant little sheep saying Thank you for the tiny bag of rice and a bottle of water

      • LadyMaverik says:

        Actually they say at least 12 days…survivalists anyways! I wish I had the money and means to do so…I will put up a fight and bare down as much as I can…better plant a lengthy garden this year!

    • Dustin says:

      That is what democracy is, the oppression of the minority by the majority. If you prefer you could call it what the Romans did… Mob Rule.

    • American.Jones says:

      Sol, they w/try to Divide & Conquer us. Sheep, like James, w/b the 1st to go. If they can create discontent & hate w/in communities, they will by using those tags you listed. They want the chaos to start so the illegal Kenyon can declare Marshall Law and imprison anyone they can find. We The People should be vigilant in keeping survival plans to yourself & close associates. Remember Big Brother about 30 yrs ago? He’s alive & spying on all transmissions – electronic & digital.

  3. Paka Housu says:

    Eventually, we will be left with three choices: Conform, Die or fight! One can only survive so long on stockpiles that cannot be re-stocked. With the drones in the air, forget about those expensive underground shelters and your stash. Your off grid, self sustaining farm cannot be hidden and will be taken. If you want to hide out, best do it on foot, off what land and water has not been contaminated. Moving your location daily. Few American’s could survive the mindset required to live in such conditions. The concept of survival does give hope to the hopeless, but in reality.. few will make it long term. Conform, Die or Fight? Those, in reality at the end of the day are your choices!

    • josh says:

      Yeah that really blows, what good is a bunker when the people you really have to woory about have bunker busters.

    • rev. dave says:

      “I know not what course others may take, but as for me – Give me Liberty or Give me Death!” Patrick Henry

      and me too. To paraphrase another famous statement – ‘if they mean to start a war, let me be there when they do’.

      And BTW, it’s nice to note that this blog is getting trolled. It must be having a positive effect to attract such negative attention – one troll for every comment!

  4. Adam says:

    Hey you all need to read this again….”In a report prepared for U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) is asking”….IN A REPORT…This does not say that the US ATT GEN is asking for this it says they perpared a REPORT THAT some whack job was asking for this shit….You should research all the “REPORTS” that they have file. Just like the police they have to investigate EVERY EVERY CALL THEY GET. They don’t get to choose which call they investigate!!

    • JJ says:

      Adam, your an Obama troll and not a very good one. Go back and get some more training. Your either part of the solution or part of the problem.

  5. Paka Housu says:

    Go to the website and read what they have to say, what they do,financial report and that wonderful 2012 Hate Report they are so proud of! They really focus on the color of the president and MAKE HIS UNPOPULARITY RACIAL! Extremist Right Wing?? They really beat that drum too. I for one don’t agree fully with any “Party”. Yet, they paint a picture as domestic terrorist are all right wingers, domestic terrorist are those who oppose the government! I’ve got a detailed report for the SPLC to provide information and training on. It’s called “Cause and Effect, Why America is broke, hated by the world, on the verge collapse and CIVIL UNREST”

  6. steve says:

    its all abought control by nazis the only way to stop them is by force

  7. sick & tired says:

    It’s my opinion that the powers that be are seeing how more “sheeple” are begining not to believe the bs being handed out. They are becoming afraid that more and more will not tolerate the bogus leadership and will actually do something about it. I think they are ramping up their disinformation campaign to try and stop rebellion before it can get started. I am concerned that if not in my lifetime, then my childrens lifetime that there will be a second american revolution. I hope not, but with what is going on in the news, the world, and with the information I have read on these websites, if you dare to prepare you are an extremeist, if you disagree with policy or a goverment doctrine you are a terrorist, if you do not conform, you will be eliminated one way or another via bogus taking of rights, land, free speech, or dare I say it…your life. Now I’m probably on some watch list for that statement. The fact that I am concerned about being on some list should speak volumes about the overreaching of our gov’t to step on peoples rights.

    • former_jarhead says:

      Its time for all good men to stand up and be counted, so what if it puts you on a hit list, this country is almost gone anyway, so why not the men of this country take the panties off and grow some balls and stand up and take our nation back, we’ve been silent too long and thanks why we’ve nearly lost this nation to begin with, stand up and be counted men of the land of the free and home of the brave!!!!

      • sick & tired says:

        Thank you for your service. And all good men & Women rise up, (I am a woman). I am finding more & more likeminded people including family members I thought would never catch a clue. People are waking up, I am just concerned they are waking up to slowly.

      • rob says:

        As far as I am concerned, I am done trying to wake up people; even my own close fam and friends. I have spent the past year asking more questions as to why our gov is pissing billions of your dollars away on supposed economic recovery. Very simply; our gov has been hijacked by globalists who are stripping all the money they can from you and I before they let this shitmess of an economy implode. If you fail to prepare…you prepare to fail. If you fail to get your head out of the sand or your ass; then you deserve what you get. 50% of the country will die within 2 weeks of any crisis that kills the grid or our fragile delivery system. Maybe another 30% or 40% from the loss of infrastructure… water supply and no sewer system. Disease will run rampant…..Get Right With Your GOD and get your supplies…. God Help This Country

      • blindmanspeaks2deafmute says:

        Hilarious! We’ll I for one am ready to do what is required of me for it is the Lord Almighty that directs my path in midst of the coming darkness so I say… Bring IT!!!

  8. ammodepo says:

    get ready this shit is hitting the fan and where go to be the ones to have to set it rite agangst tanks missels and all the force of the fedral goverment we area the ones

  9. robert b says:

    Our country has been on a steady downfall for years and its just getting worse. Its funny that we have gov officials saying be prepared to shoot someone because the police might not be able to get to you then those of us who are prepared to do so are going to be targeted. Then they tell us always be prepared for disaster so a few of us do, now were going to be targeted. We the people need to rise and stand together to fight this terrorism by our own government. ANARCHY

  10. K says:

    Minions, or TPTB, have made it clear/declared all publics as some form of “terrorists”.

    “the self appointed demi-gods are wimp flexing again”

    a farce these announcements have become.

  11. John Elijah says:

    For we have suffered yet until bloodshed. Many children and adults are dying oversees, innocent and guilty. This life is short compared to eternity. The righteous will be avenged in this life time or the next. They will judge those rulers and kings that have punished and oppressed the righteous. Their time is coming make sure your on the right side.

  12. Ranger says:

    It makes one wonder? Do we even have a Military here that swore an oath to defend and protect the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic?
    Is we do, they sure are not taking their oath very serious by allowing domestic enemies to do what they are doing.
    The time has passed where the people can or would do anything, that is evident.

    If the Military doesn’t take charge and arrest or kill these people, the USA and its citizens will fill the many many body bags and plastic coffins stored in Georgia and across America.

    Their course gets more progressive and accelerates every single month, yet we read, type comments, and continue to do absolutely nothing.

    Live and Enjoy life while you still can. For the foreign enemies in our nation’s capitols are going to kill us very soon.

  13. Rick says:

    Link to the report please!

  14. Don says:

    Bring it boys, bring it.

    Make sure that they throw the first punch.

    Then one day, one of their s.w.a.t. raids will end
    very badly.

    Game on; you know what to do.

  15. Sasquatch says:

    Hide yo guns, hide yo wife, hide yo kids, hide yo food cause da gubment gettin ready to take what they think they need to control everybody. The crucial moment ? When local enforcement either betrays the citizens by not stopping the thugs of the DHS, UN troops and those military who have sworn an allegiance to Obama and the Communists.
    Store water, toilet paper, antibiotics, canned food, working radios and walkie talkies, basic commodities, have a small generator handy, plenty of ammo and a way to communicate to your neighbors. Looters, then black boots, then DHS tanks taking resistors or violators wherever they want. Many could die. Lord come soon.

  16. sad says:

    Right so its just one mans agenda is it?

    Why not come out and say you know its government policy but you just can’t deal with it?

  17. Black Talon says:

    Looks like the SPLC is now caught in its own “Catch 22″ Trapped in their own web. Drinking the “Conspiracy Theory” koolaide right out of the punch bowl. Preppers are out to get em? What in the name of all that is Holy? Oath Keepers are plotting something sinister? Whoa, pretty scarey stuff. The Tea Party is following some nefarious evil document called the Constitution. Heaven help us. Hey SPLC, Potac, Cohen, if”Conspiracy Theorists” are public enemy #1, You Whack-Nuts just took top tier. Someone has got to warn Holder, The SPLC are Conspiro-ranters. What next SPLC moonbats? Al Qaeda is hiding in little kids and granny’s underwear? Oh hell better put the TSA on the list.Wackos! Whats next SPLC? Big Foot massing an army in the mountains? F’n Nutjobs !!!

  18. Rick says:

    These people at the SPLC need to be identified and mapped. We need to know who works for them and where they live. When the war breaks out, they all need to be priority targets.

  19. Keith Woodward says:

    Who is trying to scare the hell out of who?

  20. sharonsj says:

    They are also targeting animal rights activists and the Occupy movement. Don’t forget the government is controlled by the corporations and they are making sure we the people don’t get in the way of them making a profit.

  21. Greg Burton says:

    It is unfortunate: these are the same people, as Republicans, voted for Bush, believed that 9/11 was committed by 19 Muslim men with box-cutters, directed by a man on dialysis, living in a cave in Afghanistan. That there were weapons of mass destruction, supported the so-called war on terrorism, and stood by while police state laws were enacted that now will treat them as suspects.

    • blindmanspeaks2deafmute says:

      LOL right cuz that’s not a conspiracy LOL!!

  22. Mr. Jonz says:

    If the US government doesn’t consider you a terrorist you must be an idiot or a government terrorist yourself.

  23. Bimbam says:

    Clearly we have communist and radicals running this government. They are just a few but they wield power because of their assigned positions.

    But they number only a dozen or so at the very top. They can easily be dispatched or ignored if everyone does this enmasse.

    They are highly hateful, have extremely ridiculous policies and frightfully immature thinking. They really don’t belong there.

    They belong should first practice their asinine experimentation on themselves to see how it works. I assure they would stop as soon as it is applied.

  24. Andrew Sopko says:

    After spending 16 yrs in the middle of the Pacific…Hawaii….I came home and found Communists marching hand in hand with the teachers union in L.A…during the May Day “parade” along with signs of illegals walking with signs saying ..get out of our country gringos…not to mention since Ovomit took office…I have had a SMART CARD device placed on my system by the feds for speaking out ….have had over 1000 flights by Heli’s over my home in the last year and a half…..it is far far far ..worse than even what is being reported….go figure….

  25. bruce says:

    Poor James, and all like him. He actually thinks hs on the winning side, like these gonna be one. Idiot America. James, eventually, you’re just another loose end to them to be cleaned up…………..

  26. Northernredneck says:

    we are missing the point when overlooking the connection of the Communist Jewish involvement that pervades our society. They are not socialist at all but invested in slavery pure and simple.

  27. tim says:

    though i hope and pray there is not mass violence and death based on all the things the government has done and continues to do, i don’t see realistically how it will be avoided. we can talk on and on about what the gov’t is doing, but what i don’t see ( and maybe i haven’t read enough ) is specifically how we can organize if/when tshtf. with communications likely to be minimal then, how can we now make some plans, strategies, tactics which can be implemented locally that people can follow? of all i have read and agree to in what has been said, we need an operable/ locally implementewd game plan. anyone got some good ideas?

  28. Bubba O'Reily says:

    How can I afford to compete with the vast amount of ammunition and weaponry that the DHS may use to quell or supress any resistance I put forth as a single law abiding military veteran just trying to figure out how to make it on a daily basis?
    I’ll grow my garden. Buy some more ammo. Get my food storage toether and some fuel. Wish my ex wives and children good luck and hunker down and wait to see who comes a gunning.
    To quote Long John Silver “Them’s that die are the lucky ones”

  29. I so hate the word terrorist, I much prefer being called a freedom fighter.

    • Eileen Kuch says:

      I hear you; neither do any of us. As the saying goes, one man’s terrorist is another one’s freedom fighter. To the DHS, anyone who opposes Obummer and his regime is a “terrorist”.

      Lenin, Trotsky, and Stalin referred to every Russian and Ukranian dissident as a terrorist and murdered some 60 million of them.

  30. Francis Marion says:

    Those who rightly observe that our military and police swore an oath to defend the US People’s Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, do consider:

    Most of our fighting military has no way home from hundreds of foreign bases, many are getting burnt out in illegal wars, underequipped and undersupplied. When they do finally make it back many are physically or psychologically damaged from “back-door draft” extended tours, and marginalized by our government (who sent them over there) and our NIMBY civilian society (who can’t or won’t employ them when they return).

    We’ve all heard the possible unintended consequences of over a decade of high-handed oppression and erosion of the Constitution and Bill of Rights referred to as a Second American Revolution, and there are many historical precedents for such an eventuality, and for it going either way.

    If, as many aver, we are to be put in a position of physical opposition to an illegal DHS force possessing weapons, ammo, armored vehicles, and drones (not to mention vast supplies of coveted MREs and water supplies), I doubt our trained military can be depended upon to help us from Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Venezuela, or wherever they’ve been conveniently shipped off to.

    But one thing there is little precedent for: An American people forearmed by the 2nd Amendment and forwarned by the Internet, some of whom may be prepared to take back from illegal rogue agencies what has been confiscated from the populace.* Kids who can figure out drones, people who’ve driven armored vehicles, hundreds of thousands who’ve used modern assault weapons proficiently.

    And capable organizers…I don’t just mean “community” organizers, I mean citizens who’ve lead armed troops in the field. If the people couldn’t cope with Katrina or Sandy imagine the purchase of a bunch of ammo and drones gives them the upper hand, they might be in for an ugly surprise.

    *Actually, 1776 is the nearest we get the this scenario: French and Indian War vets living in armed households, oppressed by a clueless Imperial government, denied representation, and a still extant underground communications network left over from the War and frontier Indian raids.

    There are other parallels.

  31. freedomguy says:

    If the gubbermint starts rounding up folks and Guns, do not just sit around and wait for them to get to your house

    Go to their home 20 and put them on the run, they would soon suffer a shortage of agents and would be unable to continue with their raids

    A gun behind every Blade of Grass…………..

  32. andrew jasso says:

    queen of great britain not as well as they say north korea acting up picking last pope stock market record highs president going to isreal on passover im 53 i have never witnessed so many things happening in such a short amount of time i see people going about thier daily lives like nothing is happening planning vacations purchaseing big tv’s worst of all our youth has no idea what is in store for them very sad

  33. Martin says:

    I am a terroris under your definition. YOU ARE TRAITORS UNDER THE CONSTITUTION. No amount of bullets will save you on the day of reckoning with the King of Kings.

  34. Faye Miller says:

    Don’t forget everything is lineing up to the Word of God. Stand Haveing done all too stand If you go down the next moment you will be in the presence of God. We know the end. We read the book we Won.

  35. OhioRiver says:

    It’s getting scary out there in America. Military weapons & assault vehicles w/machine mounts now patroling our city streets is just wrong.

    I cannot help but think that ‘they’ know something we don’t and are preparing for it. Possibly a long hot summer when the stock market finally crashes…who knows?

  36. Black Talon says:

    Hey SPLC 70% of Americans are on your F’n List. Thats just the ones who dont trust this hijacked government. SPLC go tell your masters “That hell is coming”. You got that? “Hell is coming”

    A new poll by Pew shows that only 3 in 10 Americans trust our government:
    For the past seven years, a period covering the final two years of the Bush administration and President Obama’s first term, no more than about three-in-ten Americans have said they trust the federal government to do the right thing always or most of the time.

  37. Bevo says:

    Everyone, write your congressmen and tell them to label the SPLC for what it really is, a subversive element stationed in the U.S. for a foreign goverment, Israel. American christians for some reason believe Israelies love them as much as they love Israel. This is not the case. See there is no Christmas tree on the whies house lawn, just a 30 ft. Minoura

  38. TeeHeeHee says:

    There’s nothing Southern about the splc,they need to rename it the northern poverty law center,after all,the northeast is full of liberal pukes and poor people.Odumbo left the hurricane victims hanging and got a pass,the left wing commie northerner will do anything for the dumbocrat party.

  39. PoorButterfly says:

    Look who’s wearing the tinfoil hat now. The Dept. of Fatherland Insincerity is looking very paranoid these days. Maybe they’re too psychologically unstable to have guns?

  40. I love my country, its people, the Bill of Rights, the Constitution and our glorious bald eagle and American Flag. I served in the military for 28 years before retiring and never in my wildest dreams did I think I would see the day when I would have deep reservations about our government. But, with our current administration it appears that a Presidential police force is happening before the public. its name, DHS Department of Homeland Security, with 1.6 billions rounds of hollow points, 2800 personnel armored carriers, requesting 50 million for uniforms and recent purchase of 7000 additional arms not to mention that just recently DHS has orders long guns in all calibers as well as hand guns it leads me to one conclusion.DHS is declaring war on the American Citizens who disagree with this president on under the 2nd Amendment will not easily give up gun ownership. There are presently 65 known drone sites with over 3000 available drones and the deployment of an MED attachment is not beyond beliief. MED stands for a microwave dish that Emmits waves that will fry the brain and broil the blood. Imagine a DHS vehicle parks 100 yards from your house and announces thru a public address system to come out of your home now or use of deadly force will be applied. 5 minutes goes by and the transmitter is turned on, the brain reacts, you try to exit your home but you had been warned, bang you are shot dead. Can’t happen? Think again, in a period of Martial Law the military commanders are under the authority of DHS, DHS calls the shots not the military. What is going on right now is the scariest thing I have ever seen, call your Senators and Congressmen or women and have them question then defund DHS before it is to late.I am not a dissident nor am I a conspiracy buff, but, a 9-12 patriot who has peacefully tried to be active and support the US Constitution. Because of my posting I’m sure my name appears on the goverment round up list and will be captured or removed by any means, which will be better than a reindoctrination camp at more than 600 sites already prepared for us. Did I fail to mention FEMA has alreaady stockpiled hundreds of thousands of plastic coffins to stuff us in, better than body being dumped into a trench, lymed over and dirt push in, I suppose. May God bless our great country and stay safe, keep your family save the best you can

  41. Worried says:

    “I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.” (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962). They can’t do both in this case. Which takes more precedence? Would love to hear from x-military

    • StormW says:

      I am retired Coast Guard…I took that oath…the first portion comes first. I WILL STILL defend the Constitution. As a sailor, I DO NOT have to follow orders given by the POTUS, as an unlawful order is not a legal order. ANY UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAW, IS NOT LAW!

  42. StormW says:

    James,
    Were you born stupid, or do you work hard at it everyday?

  43. Victorious says:

    My heart goes out to all of you in the U.S except for James- you poor ignorant soul . We will see how it all plays out. I’m Canadian and will be watching and ready to flee

  44. CCB says:

    The fact is that the DHS was formed to help keep all Americans safe. The first job of the Federal Government,by the way,is to keep Americans safe. And here they are,looking at any American that is a Christian.a supporter of the rule of law and the Constitution, an enemy of this country. What is wrong with this picture? Who really is in our top level Government positions when they see us as an enemy or potential terrorist.I guess we could be seen as enemies of Communism.

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