GUN CONTROL: Obama administration issues two executive actions defining who can buy a gun.

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The Obama administration quietly released a press statement, confirming President Obama will be signing two new executive actions defining who can buy a gun based on mental health issues.

The restrictions will try to limit who can buy a gun, based on past mental health issues. The new mental health restrictions, which are being enforced as regulations through the Department of Justice and the Department of Health and Human Services, will allow the government to get around certain privacy laws so they can access your private medical records. It also allows them to yet again sidestep congress.

One of regulations allows the feds to access your private medical records to determine your “mental stability” in relation to owing a firearm. If you are found to be mentally unstable, the Justice Department can then deny your right to own a firearm.  But the problem really comes from who’s defining what “mentally unstable” actually means.

While most people would probably agree that mentally ill people with a history of violence shouldn’t be allowed to own a firearm, the new regulations aren’t quite that simple. In fact, under these laws – as we’ve seen happen recently in New York – pretty much anyone can be declared mentally unfit.

Earlier this year, the State of New York used similar mental health regulations to classify anxiety as a mental health issue. Because of that, anyone who has ever reported feeling anxious could be at risk of losing their 2nd amendment rights. In fact, there are already a number of cases making their way through the court system in New York, where people actually lost their rights because they were prescribed anti-anxiety medications.

Since almost 25% of the population now takes anti-anxiety / depression medications, almost a quarter of the country could be at risk of being labeled mentally unfit to own a firearm, if these same policies take hold at a federal level.

They’ve already started going after Vets with these regulations.

Anyone who thinks these regulations are about stopping mentally violent people from owning a gun, should take a look at what the federal government is doing to returning vets who have been injured during battle.

Last month we reported on how veterans with financial troubles were being labeled Mental Defectives, thus stripping them of their ability to own a firearm. As part of a new U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) process, any injured veteran who is unable to personally manage their own disability benefits is being entered into the F.B.I. NICS System, and told they will no longer legally be able to own or buy a firearm.

If this can be done to returning veterans, what do you think is going to happen once these regulations are let loose on the general public?

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  1. anita says:

    What a shame.

    • Charles K. Bent. says:

      And just think of the millions of children who have been “diagnosed” with all manor of mental health problems: ADD, ADHD, Depression, etc,. etc. This tsunami has been building for years. It’s about to engulf the 2nd. Amendment, at the very least. Insidious.

      • RG says:

        So be sure to sign up to Obamacare! That way they know who all has been prescribed ADD / ADHD, sleep medication, depression.. (Sarcasm emphasized!)

    • Enter your name... says:

      The people that had committed those horrible crimes in the schools did not purchase the guns. The guns were taken from by law abiding people with no mental health issues.So your laws have holes in it already.

      • Ghost Prime says:

        They don’t care as “gun control” laws are about control, not guns. Ovomit and his criminal traitors in DC will say and do anything to steal our weapons, for they know they can never accomplish the complete destruction of America as long as free people have weapons to defend themselves.

    • dru says:

      Makes sense to me. Stop giving guns to those unstable.

      You say guns don’t kill people, people kill people. Well, this helps reduce that.

      Love the troops, but vets with PTSD shouldnt be owning firearms.

      This just seems like common sense.

      • Al metcalf says:

        Maybe if congress and the people voted on this but not with another executive order. He acts like a dictator.

        • OOPS says:

          YEP,,he is a dic.

        • Ghost Prime says:

          He does not ACT like a dictator, he IS a dictator, along with a traitor and a murderer.

        • Pops says:

          If the house was not dysfunctional he would not need to use executive orders.

          Obama has used executive orders less then emperor george while cleaning up the mess GW made.

          How many more of our boys would have died if McCain had work?

      • weaponkid says:

        You do realize there are already laws against the mentally Ill possessing guns…they just are trying to expand it to the ridiculous so that they have more control on who can have guns

      • Mike says:

        Im a iraq veteran and ptsd doesn’t mean ur unstable so thats a very broad statement saying they shouldn’t be allowed to own guns. You should really look into all the different forms of PTSD out there cuz I have PTSD but its very mild form. Theres probably more civilians with PTSD in the United states then there are veterans and at least a veteran with ptsd understands the responsibility behind owning a firearm unlike alot of civilians.

        • Ghost Prime says:

          Mike, Rgr that, especially when a corrupt government wants to be the entity that determines who has PTSD or any other issue. This is just another attempt to steal weapons from We the People. It is wrong, regardless of whether someone has PTSD as people cannot be prevented from exercising their God given rights because a corrupt, treasonous government THINKS they MIGHT be a danger.

      • soldiers family says:

        your so right !
        Give the soldier a gun, let him defend Americans, then when he comes home, take his guns away and tell him he is unfit to protect his family or even just go hunting !
        hmmmmm what an awesome strategy. Then again Im just one person what do I know ? Im sure those who have never served in the armed forces know so much more and know better than anyone how to combat this ongoing attack against the second amendment.

        • soldiers family says:

          By the way… as we debate (not take action) but debate this issue…. lets not forget our police officers, the CIA the FBI the Secret Service… they all carry guns they all take retirement and they have all had to kill at one point in time in their career. Let’s make sure they don’t have any rights to purchase weapons they just might go nuts and kill us all. sound ridiculous ? Well maybe if it does it is. Sound like Marshall Law ? hmmm maybe it is. Sound like dictatorship ? maybe it is. Anything is possible for dreamers without experience. Stand up for our 2nd Amendment rights ? Now why would we want to do that ?

      • daniel says:

        You sir are an idiot. Along with everyone elsecwho supports this. Ptsd is a diagnosis that anyone can receive. I guess a cop who is involved in a shoot out that gets diagnosed with ptsd should not get to be an officer. Stupid right? I served in the corp and have ptsd. Guess what my guns stay in my cabinet and are properly used so you should go poke your head up your but and fight for air.

    • micheal says:

      So screwed I can’t even buy a weapon cause I’m on anti anxiety meds and send meds so private sale here I come

  2. scott says:

    As the dance begins.

  3. A Proud Marine says:

    Well, first of all, I personally hate guns and refuse to own any. I prefer bows and crossbows because they’re silent and I can always make the arrows/bolts for them. That said, I don’t believe the government has the right to determine who has the right to own guns. The Second Amendment has no exclusions written into it. So, therefore, even the laws that prevent convicted felons from owning guns is a violation of the Second Amendment.

    • some one says:

      the government is also going after bows and cross bows do some more research your rights are being infringed upon also

  4. This is going too far. To define mental illness as anything under the sun thus implying that anyone who suffers from anxiety attacks are a risk. Living in the desert it is necessary to have protection from 4 legged predators as well as protect ones property. it is time to knock some sense into our president and anyone else who thinks they can write laws that are too broad and harm those who really have respect for firearms. This needs to go to the supreme court since our second amendment rights are being trashed.

    • steve says:

      supreme court justices were handpicks of the regime. the average person or group no longer can depend on the law as it is the greatest weapon against the people. anyone who cant see that isn’t paying attention.

      • dru says:

        Correct. But note that the SC judges now are mostly conservative.

        • EdWatts says:

          That worked out really well on Obamacare, didn’t it?-

          • Ghost Prime says:

            Bingo! So much for healthcare. Next, lose your weapons, then lose your freedom!

            Live Free or Die! It is not just a slogan. It is a way of life we must protect or we will surely lose it.

    • dru says:

      I would first read more.about the order before jumping to conclusions from one subjective article.

  5. d3rang3d1 says:

    Let the revolt begin ! This is going way out of hand ! Its ridiculous that he can get around congress to put this kind of crap into play !

    • Diana says:

      Fuk that MF I didnt vote for his ass Im keeping ALL MY GUNS cause we’re gonna need them sooner than everyone thinks

      • ProudAfghanVet says:

        I’m so sick of seeing people talk and talk and talk and talk about how something is coming and they’re supposedly gonna do something and blah blah BLAH!!! FRIGGIN DO SOMETHING! STOP TALKING AND FRIGGIN ACT!! I can’t take this crap anymore!!!

        • soldiers family says:

          ProudAfghanVet:
          I agree… problem is it takes bravery and it takes courage and backbone to take a stand…Oh its the ones that protest against, and have never served in the Armed Services that has the intelligence to protest the 2nd amendment. America… beware..your balls are dropping and Im worried your not picking them up fast enough to make a difference in your future and the future of your family. Bet if someone came after your woman your momma or kid…and you could get a gun…hmmmm bet ya dont tickle them to death with it. Oh yes.. your right right right… what does an uneducated person like me know. ;(

        • Ghost Prime says:

          ProudAfghanVet, thanks for your service.

          As for doing something, I propose that you and the others here do what a friend of mine, who is a retired Naval officer, did. He filed charges of Treason against Ovomit, filing it with the FBI, the WH, and his reps. I and many others have followed his lead, and so can we all. Once we file treason charges, we then need to notify our elected serpents in congress that they will be guilty of Misprision of Treason if they do not press charges.
          Here is how: http://thejaghunter.wordpress.com/a-sample-letter-anyone-can-write-naming-obama-in-commission-of-treason-click-here/

          This is just a start but it is action, so get to it. If enough people do it and spread the word, we may bring enough fear to the serpents to turn on Ovomit simply to save their own treasonous carcasses.

  6. dirtpoor says:

    This is horrible! I have Major Depressive Disorder and Severe Panic Disorder. I’ve had these conditions since I was around 6 or 7. I have NEVER HURT ANYONE! I was a FF/EMT-P for nearly 10 years. I owned a gun, a Wilson Combat Sentinel from around 2000-2006 until my house was broken into and it was stolen. I have been hospitalized for a mental illness last year for a week for cutting myself. My dog was dying of cancer and since I have no relatives or my own family, that dog was my world. Under these actions, I will not be allowed to own guns. I am moving to a remote location in Georgia where there are a ton of snakes and bears and whatever else they have that can kill you. So, since I cannot purchase a firearm of any type, I have no defense if I encounter a bear. Nice…..

    • Barefoot in MN says:

      friend, there is a way around it… :-)
      just “rent” a firearm from someone you trust. say, for a reasonable price… like (for example)
      $300 for the first decade with another $10 a decade thereafter. That way the “owner” is still the “owner” and you are just “taking care of” the gun. And occassionally firing it to see if it still works properly. ;-D see?

      These dam’ Executife odors (misspelling deliberate) always begin “by the power vested in me by the US Constitution…” well we know this doofus is not Constitutionally eligible to be Prz. Therefore the Cosntitution does NOT give him any authority whatsoever. Therefore we are not bound to go along with said e-o’s.
      stick to your… you-know-whats, my friend.

      My sympathies regarding the loss of your canine buddy… please try to get another soon; they can make such a difference. God bless you.

  7. mark moyle says:

    Our veterans were sent to war to defend our countries and our rights but it seems in America as in Australia the real enemy is in our own governments, so in the end what did our diggers fight and die for?

  8. Scott says:

    This would also take any Veteran who has been treated for PTSD while or after serving and make it illegal for them to own a firearm. Is THAT really the America we want? Is that the liberty these men and women fought for?? Who the hell does Obama think he is, sidestepping the Congress and setting down dictatorial policies that abrogate citizens’ 2nd Amendment rights???

    • Suffer in Silence says:

      Exactly! I am still on active duty and could use some help dealing with PTSD but will not seek assistance due to the fear of being labeled unstable and losing my rights.

      • friend in need says:

        You just need people that can help get you through it. You made the first step in your message. I never served, and was never diagnosed with PTSD, but I know what it is and I most likely have it. Rough life, so I do know and understand where you’re coming from.

      • Ghost Prime says:

        SinSilence, thanks for your service. Here is something that may help. Worked for me.
        http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/invisible-wounds/201202/ptsd-energy-therapies

        It is called EFT. Look it up. I assure you it is worth considering. Hang in their Bro. You are not alone.

  9. Tex says:

    Chris Kyle, America’s most prolific sniper states in his biography he enjoyed killing savages to save American lives. Is that a mental disorder and could he be excluded from firearms ownership? This is not a good thing by any stretch of the imagination. I’m seriously thinking about burying some weapons systems and keeping the rest clean, cocked and locked.

    • dirtpoor says:

      Unfortunately, our wonderful Government would probably make his death the Poster Child for these laws since he was killed by a soldier suffering from PTSD :(

    • more bs says:

      Who is gonna check his mental ability,after him shooting off his mouth and getting law abiding people hurt with his bullshit.

    • dru says:

      He enjoyed killing savages? It’s funny how we demonize the government when they touch our rights…we call them Big Brother,evil, etc. But when they point at someone and says…they’re our enemy…we blindly believe them.

      I call for enemy by evidence. For e.g. the Taliban. Proven enemy of America

  10. Redd_Jackal says:

    The announcement was made while he was off on vacation in Hawaii, because he cares so much for the American people. What a leader!

  11. Roma says:

    transform gun rights to tazers rights

  12. Becky says:

    Who cares. I care more about losing my child to someone toting a damn giun that shouldn’t be. Get the fuck over it people. Your not losing losing your 2 nd amendment rights. This is just another scare tactic from the Conservatives. If they can keep you scared then apparently it’s working. I wish that is all I had to worry about was me me me. Fuck everyone else. Let’s all make sure that your rights are not violated. Whatever!!

    • missourimama says:

      I think you are mistaking anger and outrage for fear. I will fight for my rights as an American citizen. If they want my guns, they are going to have a hell of a fight on their hands!
      And its not just my right, its your right and your childrens’ rights that we all want to protect. It most certainly is not a me me me. It’s people like you who just step aside and allow the government to do as it pleases in the name of “public safety”,that have ruined this country. People kill people, guns are just the instruments. If I killed ten people with a frying pan, would we ban those too? How many people in this country have been killed with baseball bats? I can still go down to the good old Wal-Mart and buy those too…. Do you get the picture? Mental health issues need to be handled. Health laws need to be changed to allow for proper care of people with mental illnesses. Out schools needs to be made safer. Taking away gun rights is not the answer

      • missourimama says:

        *Our schools-

    • Liberty4@ll says:

      Becky=clueless. Pick up a history book or a recent newspaper in the UK to see how it ends.

    • scoutsout says:

      Oh Becky Becky Becky……I guess we will see you and your child in the mass graves when it all goes bad.

    • dirtpoor says:

      Becky, ALL of these school shooting have been commited by young teenage boys who attend the schools with the exception of Adam Lanza, who after being denied the ability to purchase a gun because of his mental illness, stole his mothers guns and used them instead. There have been no adult women or men that have gone to these schools with guns and shot the children. The already strict gun control measures are effective enough. What is happening now is the Government is changing the wording of mental health treatment so it can include things like Xanax and Clonopin for anxiety, and them lableing(sp?) anxiety as a serious enough mental illness to warrant being denied a gun. They are giving themselves the power to diagnose people themselves as opposed to a medical professional like a Psychiatrist who specializes in mental health to make the diagnosis. You are 100% wrong in your post, and your frame of mind, and your argument! And that “me me me” attitude you love is the exact same thing shooters are thinking of when they shoot…..

    • Patti says:

      Becky,

      This is America. The whole point of the country is our rights. If you don’t like it, there are lots of other places to live where no one has any rights.

      Personally, I like my rights, particularly the one where I can defend my family against an attack.

      You should really clean up your mouth, particularly if you are raising children.

    • SNIPER says:

      Easy Becky, take a pill and relax,,,It sounds to me that you are one of the far far left thinking people whom thinks big brother is the answer to all problems, stay off the cool-aid for a few weeks, clear your head and read something besides what they send you to read,,don’t watch so much msnbc and cnn,,,,,

    • Colin says:

      Becky-
      Scare tactic? have you lost your mind?
      All of this is by design.
      You know this. If you have a hard time wrapping your small brain around the concept, study HISTORY.

    • Ghost Prime says:

      Gee Becky, you seem to have some anger management issues. I think you should not be able to drive as you may lose control and run over someone in a fit of rage. Just looking at your language, one can see you are out of control now, so what are you like when your weed runs out? Taken your pills today? You need counseling.

      BTW, I have children and grandchildren, and they are being raised around guns as I was so they know how to use them when the time comes to protect themselves from corrupt government and other insane liberals.

  13. mary lynn says:

    I work in a ER and we put people on involuntary 72 hour holds because they are drunk and have no one to come take care of them. They are held until they are sober. Will this mean they cant buy a gun?

  14. Tony says:

    Make your laws lie cheat steal take the guns we can build bigger and better ones or just take yours you have make the general population criminals just rember the tax money that funds you comes from us you will be cut off

  15. memawcarter@att.net says:

    So does this mean that there will be more disability checks taken out of our Social Security funds, Our leaders can be STUPID at times!

  16. ctw says:

    Count me in on the NON-violent protest, May 26 to force Obama, Pelosi, et al’s resignation!!!! They got to go!! I hope all the serious out there will join in this fight to take our nation back. Obama wants a reason to declare martial law, he is a proven illegal president and if we don’t take the opportunity before us to force him out in an American Spring, he wins.

  17. katie kreps says:

    I suffer from mental illness, since I was 3 years old..raped from 3 to 11..finally taken… but severely traumatized, both mentally & physically.. bleeding ulcers and could never have kids..I learned to shoot..it was a therapy of sorts..to build confidence..so I would never be hurt again..now you want to take that away…because I have a mental illness??? Just try…I have a right to defend myself.

    • Patti says:

      Katie,
      So sorry for what you suffered. I support your right to defend yourself, and the rights of the soldiers with PTSD. If we were all prepared to defend ourselves and our families, the criminals would sulk away.

  18. SNIPER says:

    I see this as a way for the powers at large, to remove guns from trained soldiers thus allowing them an easier path to remove all of our rights and make our country into what the far left has been heading us toward for years and years.
    They must take small steps to change us, as not to cause an uprising.
    It’s like the frog in cold water, heat it slow and he never knows he is being cooked.

    • Ghost Prime says:

      Precisely what the commies in DC have in mind.

  19. Angry says:

    I say if that dic. Obama wants to take our guns, then he can take a bullet. If this post is taken off I will consider suing because the constitution gives me the right to express my opinion. BTW dic. stands for both dictator and dick.

  20. Kim says:

    well first of all everything going wrong is there fault because of poison in are foods waters drugs every aspect of are life’s they have been trying to poison us and now they don’t want to help unless they take away your rights I say fuck the rich man we don’t need them so this time if we have to do this we take them all out and get Reid of the greedy fucker once and for all so we can have peace again.

  21. Misha says:

    This is how this will play out if it is true. Word will spread like wildfire and people who could benefit from things as innocuous as marriage counseling won’t go for fear of losing their rights.

    Meanwhile, the net of unacceptable mental history will be widened until less than 10% of the populace owns a firearm. Meanwhile they will continue advancing the corporatist agenda until this nation is a fascism, with the elite holding all the cards.

    In the sort term though, people who might benefit from mental health care won’t go. Thanks, Obama.

  22. bigdick says:

    Jesus will soon come and take control of his new kingdom, So why worry? :p

  23. gregory says:

    yes roger hedgecock am760 in San Diego said that the government will just come and get your guns if you have ADD ADHD No questions asked.no more guns for a law abiding citizen with no problems mental health

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