Obama Administration to Court Martial & Punish Christian Military who Share Their Faith

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troopsThe Pentagon has confirmed that they will now be prosecuting military members who share their Christian Faith. The statement, which was released to Fox News, is unprecedented and means that even Military Chaplain, who are there for the specific purpose of helping those of faith, will no longer be able to share their religious views with anyone in the military.

The move comes after the Obama Administration allowed one of the most fanatical atheists in America to develop court-martial procedures that will punish Christians in the military who express or share their faith in Jesus Christ.

Mikey Weinstein, President of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, was brought in by the Obama administration to come up with procedures that will be used to literally persecute those who share the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Those who are found guilty could be imprisoned or dishonorably discharged from the military. Military Chaplain, who have spiritually counseled members of the military since the founding of the U.S. military under George Washington, will now be barred from ministering to the spiritual needs of even active military troops who are giving their lives in the field of battle.

Weinstein, who talked to Fox News, stated “Someone needs to be punished for this, until the Air Force or Army or Navy or Marine Corps punishes a member of the military for unconstitutional religious proselytizing and oppression, we will never have the ability to stop this horrible, horrendous, dehumanizing behavior.” He’s also said U.S. troops who proselytize are guilty of sedition and treason and are and of committing an act of “spiritual rape.”

What amazes me is the fact that the Obama administration has refused to persecute the Fort Hood Terrorist that killed 13 people and injured over 30 people under the same religious laws. This is a man who in the name of religious jihad, went on a shooting rampage that the Pentagon has classified an “Act of Workplace Violence.” Three years later he has yet to stand trial, and has even received a religious waiver so he could keep his Islamic beard in the name of religious freedom, all despite the fact that it’s a direct violation of the uniform military code.

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  1. shud23 says:

    Im guessing now the Obama administration wants to remove “In GOD We Trust” from our money now

    • Bryan says:

      Good news, that doesn’t belong on our money anyway.

      • Terry says:

        Maybe “YOU” don’t belong here!

      • doris says:

        And so the “Last Days” prophesied in the Bible many many years ago begin… so sad that alot of people refuse to believe in our Wonderful Creator now that they have the chance. On judgement day it will be too late, and everyone will SEE the true and Living God and cry out to Him for mercy, but it will be too late to repent.

        • Tom says:

          It’s a false story. The military has always had this policy. Nothing changed. Just someone trying to convince you the devil is at your doorstep again.

          • Enter your name... says:

            Maybe he is at our doorstep and running our country into the ground. Look up and watch them spray chemicals over us as well (look up chemtrails). Spying on our allies and us (Snowden. Case). Lying to go to war. Robbing the american people and covering up those who do it. Selling off our technologies and trying to take away our guns…wake up!!!!!

        • Jim Thompson says:

          Doris , so very true words spoken. May God bless you in Jesus name for your witness here. These things Jesus spoke about must take place before he returns to earth the second time. No one will enter the kingdom of God until they pass thru Jesus Christ Gods only son who was the last blood sacrifice for all mankind and the bridge to God our maker. If youre (the people of the earth) are alive today its not too late to turn your eyes to God and ask Jesus spirit to come into your life as your personal savior and asure you of a place in Heaven with the Father God. Atleast for now I can write these things in an open forum without persecution. That door is soon going to close by the way on all of us by the way as the anti Christ movement moves in deeper into society.

          • Jean Wood says:

            I agree with Doris, now the “end times” begin. God showed thru many, many followers in the Bible, that all these will come to pass, before our Lord comes for our church. People do not be ashamed to proclaim the Jesus Christ is our Lord and Saviour. He will guide and protect us until he comes for us. We will be persecuted for our beliefs but in the end God has the last word.

    • Sabby says:

      Bryan’s Right, “In God We Trust” wasn’t added to our currency until the 1950’s to separate us from the “Heathen Communist Reds” It really shouldn’t be on our money at all.

      • Leah says:

        God is a part of EVERYTHING and deserves to be honored as such! Repent of your sins and invite him in to your heart and life as your Savior! Time is running out, this article is yet another”sign of the end times” as stated in the Bible. Christians will be persecuted as it is the Devil that will rule this world prior to Jesus’ second coming.

        • SHEILA says:

          Leah, you could not be more right!!
          This is just the beginning of the forewarned persecution of Christians…and possibly Jews!!
          We must be aware and praying at all times.

          • weaponkid says:

            I think this is the start
            of attack on all religion

          • Cindy Garcia says:

            You know Jesus said we would be hated of all nations for His Name sake. And that we would be persecuted. If we deny Him before men He will deny us before our Father in heaven but if we confess Him He will confess us before our Father in heaven.
            This administration is of the devil all the way around, Jesus said the spirit of the anti Christ is at work in the world.. Can you see it at work. We have our 1 amendment freedom of speech.. When we speak from our mouth to proclaim what we believe that is our right as a American. Obama trying to do away with our constitution. This man is very evil

      • Luther Sikes says:

        This country was founded on strong Christian beliefs and to say it doesn’t belong here is on currency or any part of our lives means you don’t deserve to live in the greatest country on earth. I think I am speaking for millions when I say Bryan and Sabby and others who are like-minded need to get out of this country and take your liberal agendas with you!!

        • lb says:

          so its liberal agendas. what hog wash.
          wake up and take back this country from the “conservatives and liberals”. we are “AMERICANS” first, not republicans or democrats. Please stop the BS.

        • Leo says:

          None of the founding fathers were Christian…

          • Cindy Garcia says:

            then you do not know our history, i recommend you go back and do a research not just run your mouth

          • Mike says:

            From Wikipedia…

            “Lambert (2003) has examined the religious affiliations and beliefs of the Founders. Of the 55 delegates to the 1787 Constitutional Convention, 49 were Protestants, and two were Roman Catholics (D. Carroll, and Fitzsimons). Among the Protestant delegates to the Constitutional Convention, 28 were Church of England (or Episcopalian, after the American Revolutionary War was won), eight were Presbyterians, seven were Congregationalists, two were Lutherans, two were Dutch Reformed, and two were Methodists.

            A few prominent Founding Fathers were anti-clerical Christians, such as Thomas Jefferson[19][20][21] (who created the so-called “Jefferson Bible”) and Benjamin Franklin.[22] Others (most notably Thomas Paine) were deists, or at least held beliefs very similar to those of deists.[23]

            Historian Gregg L. Frazer argues that the leading Founders (Adams, Jefferson, Franklin, Wilson, Morris, Madison, Hamilton, and Washington) were neither Christians nor Deists, but rather supporters of a hybrid “theistic rationalism”.[24]”

        • Sierra says:

          Yes. All Christians are expected and forced to bow and bend to all the crap in the world. Our country was founded on Christian views. It’s completely wrong to change things that have been around as long as our country. I, as long as all the real Christians, will not bow to the world. And no one can make me, not even the government.

          • Enter your name... says:

            Not ever to this Luciferian government. Amen.

        • Anita says:

          I agree with Luther. If you don’t like to hear of Christ and what our country is founded upon, go elsewhere. “God bless America and bring us back to our roots.” We need the Lord and a great awakening in this country.

      • Emetib says:

        It was added to some coins in 1864. No doubt the pinko commie threat was looming over their heads even at that time.

        • Julia says:

          To Leo
          Almost all of our founding fathers were Christians and there are documents to prove that they were. I am so sad to hear these comments that contradict our religious freedom in America!! America Come Back to GOD!! Stop fighting the very ONE who can deliver you from the devil’s lies!!

    • Off Grid Survival says:

      People really need to study history a little bit harder, because our country was founded on Judaeo-Christian values and what’s happening here is 100% Unconstitutional. I know atheists like to blabber on about the separation of Church and State, but NOWHERE IN THE CONSTITUTION is that phrase found.

      What it actually says is “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.”

      The first part of the clause is largely meant to protect the different denominational churches from the government, and allow them to freely operate without government intrusion. In fact, the actual term Separation of Church and State (which was hijacked by the ACLU) was coined by Baptists who were looking for religious tolerance. The first part simply means the government cannot make a “state” religion.


      The second part of the clause is very clear, the government can not stop you from practicing your religion.

      And for those that think we weren’t founded on these values, read the Declaration of Independence, especially the part about how our rights are endowed by our Creator and where they appeal to the “Supreme Judge of the world” and ask for “Divine Providence” You may also want to look up how the day after congress passed the 1st amendment that included the above clause, they immediately proclaimed a national day of prayer. And again, and as pointed out in the article, George Washington himself is responsible for the formation of the Military Chaplains.

      You can choose to believe what you want, and even talk about it, that’s one of the things that used to be great about this country. Somehow we have allowed people to distort our actual history, and have allowed those who scream the loudest to become the new mini-dictators who tell us what we can and can’t talk about.

      • Sheila says:

        THANK YOU, “OFF GRID SURVIVAL!!” I AM TRULY THANKFUL THAT THERE ARE STILL A FEW NORMAL, INTELLIGENT CITIZENS IN THIS COUNTRY! MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND PROTECT YOU ALWAYS.

      • Strawberry says:

        The forefathers had always intended “separation of church and state” as meaning of the 1st amendment. I applaud you using history for the argument but be more specific. You claim it was the baptists but you should have mentioned it was actually brought up by Thomas Jefferson.
        “In English, the exact term is an offshoot of the phrase, “wall of separation between church and state”, as written in Thomas Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802. In that letter, referencing the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, Jefferson writes: “Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.” Jefferson reflected his frequent speaking theme that the government is not to interfere with religion.

        The Bill of Rights was one of the earliest examples in the world of complete religious freedom (adopted in 1791, only preceded by the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen in 1789) but it was interpreted as establishing a separation of Church and State only after the letter of Jefferson (see section United States for more details). At the time of the passage of the Bill of Rights, many states acted in ways that would now be held unconstitutional, some of them with official state churches. All of the early official state churches were disestablished by 1833.”
        “The concept of separating church and state is often credited to the writings of English philosopher John Locke (1632–1704). According to his principle of the social contract, Locke argued that the government lacked authority in the realm of individual conscience, as this was something rational people could not cede to the government for it or others to control. For Locke, this created a natural right in the liberty of conscience, which he argued must therefore remain protected from any government authority. These views on religious tolerance and the importance of individual conscience, along with his social contract, became particularly influential in the American colonies and the drafting of the United States Constitution.

        At the same period of the 17th century, Pierre Bayle and some fideists were forerunners of the separation of Church and State, maintaining that faith was independent of reason. During the 18th century, the ideas of Locke and Bayle, in particular the separation of Church and State, became more common, promoted by the philosophers of the Age of Enlightenment. Montesquieu already wrote in 1721 about religious tolerance and a degree of separation between religion and government. Voltaire defended some level of separation but ultimately subordinated the Church to the needs of the State while Denis Diderot, for instance, was a partisan of a strict separation of Church and State, saying “the distance between the throne and the altar can never be too great”.

        • Runner says:

          I’m not sure which way you are going on this. Are you agreeing, disagreeing, or just generally speaking about history? Almost all of that came from Wikipedia. I’m not saying that’s necessarily a bad thing. I’m just not sure what your ultimate point was.

        • historyteacher says:

          Strawberry, it is wonderful that you are able to cut and paste from various websites, but it is much better for you to form your own opinion, to read about these great men of history yourself and formulate your own ideas about their speeches and writings. You will have such a better grasp of the whole picture than just the glimpse given by the online articles that you have read.

        • Wiki lies says:

          Great job strawberry. This is why the country is in trouble from the copy and paste crowd. These are people who form their opinions from copy and pasting their info from sites that are run by liberal activists. It’s sickening what liberals have done to distort and change our history. You would be amazed what they teach your kids in school today about how the founders were evil men

          • weaponkid says:

            in other words
            Founders=Terrorists

          • Strawberry says:

            I took it from the Wiki article because the author(s) obviously did a lot of research on the material. Irregardless, the Jefferson letters are not a matter of opinion but do exist. And offer an intimate view as to what our forefathers were thinking when founding this great free nation in which we are living in.
            My main argument was to address Off Grid Surival’s comment regarding history. And his, what appears to be, deliberate omission of Thomas Jefferson’s authorship of the letters by vaguely calling the term “separation of church and state” as being coined by “Baptists who were looking for religious tolerance.”
            If you are going to suggest looking into the history of things…don’t leave out the details! It makes your argument weaker and spreads ignorance. That is all.

          • Minuetman says:

            Strawberry your argument is invalid. You said irregardless

          • emily says:

            Strawberry, nobody, and I do mean nobody who knows anything about academics uses wiki. Period.

      • RAECHELL says:

        THAT IS NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH OFF GRID SURVIVAL BUDDY AND GOD BLESS YOU FOR SPEAKING IT

      • StopIgnorance says:

        You should be ashamed of yourself. Manipulating the truth to promote an agenda. No one is persecuting Christians. They’re just being asked to restrain from attempting to convert others in the military. Stop misleading people. This is not unconstitutional. In fact, it upholds the constitution by encouraging freedom of religion for non-Christians. Telling Christians not to force their beliefs on others is the right thing to do. There’s a difference between sharing religion and spreading religion.

        And you don’t need to be an atheist to believe in separation of church and state. I’m Catholic so don’t give me your atheist or communist label. I know you’re trying hard to uphold the ignorant Christian stereotype, but that’s not me.

        • Dan says:

          Yet, my son and I are being forced to see homosexuals making out in public, and I am told how I am naïve/ignorant for not agreeing with their lifestyles. I am continuously attacked as a person, whether my intelligence or morals, because I do not believe their points of views. But how are they any different if they are not accepting of mine? It is a two-way street. Of course, I know the argument that they have a right to “be in love and show affection for each other” like a heterosexual couple would. If this is the case, then why is it so wrong for a Christian to share beliefs and express their love? They have a relationship with God, correct? Also, you cannot spread Christianity; it is not something that can be forced into someone’s heart. You share and they either accept or disregard it. As for you being Catholic, that is a mute point. And please, let me clarify one thing: I am not trying to attack homosexuals in my point because I love all people, regardless of who they are or what they have done. I am simply using it as an example of one of the many hypocrisies this country is acquiring.

      • Anita says:

        thank you Off Grid Survival. I agree with you 100%.

      • Shane says:

        The term “Wall of Seperation” was not coined by Baptists. It was coined by Thomas Jefferson in a letter to the Danbury Baptist Association. Other than that I agree with everything else you said. May God bless America!

    • Suzie says:

      DICKtator & THIEF BHO will be putting his ugly face on the $ soon. Unbelievable that this EVIL man is still in office. May God help us all!

    • michael says:

      This is OUTRAGEOUS BULLSHIT!

  2. Malf says:

    bogus story – read the order. “It just says leaders can’t use their official positions of authority to promote their religious beliefs to their troops.” this is a good thing.

    • Off Grid Survival says:

      Sorry but nobody is pushing anything on anyone, if you want to choose to believe the Obama Administration then have fun with that but don’t come crying when whatever it is you believe in is deemed illegal.

      Is it also a bogus story the the islamic jihadist who killed all those people is now being charged with an “act of workplace violence” instead of terrorism? Maybe you should dig a tad deeper into what’s really going on, and who this administration thinks the enemy is, before you so easily buy what the government is selling.

      • Sabby says:

        But all you’re doing is just spouting the extreme opposite. “I HATE OBAMA SO EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN THE GOVERNMENT WHILE HE’S PRESIDENT IS AUTOMATICALLY HIS FAULT AND IS VILE AND EVIL.” is basically what I just read when I read your comment.

        • Off Grid Survival says:

          I don’t believe I have ever stated in this or any other article on the site that I Hate anyone.

          And if you’re somehow implying that we are out to “Blame Obama for everything”, maybe you should read some of our articles because this site is an equal opportunity offender and I have just as many articles slamming Republican policies.

        • Sheila says:

          Sabby, you have totally misread, or perhaps misunderstood everything that Off Grid Survival stated. There are times when ignorance is bliss…this is NOT one of them!I feel sorry for you.

        • ChrstnMry says:

          Just like them saying that they have increased the National Debit up trillions of dollars, because it was Former Press’s. G. W. Bush’s fault. Before long you look aid drinking idiots will be over. And the country will be able to start healing again. As long as this so called S.O.B. of a pres. is in office there isn’t a single human that’s safe. bho and his family need to stop taking vacations and paying thousands of dollars on clothes and give it to the N.D.. THIS IS MY OPINION!!!!!

        • truth teller says:

          This stuff has been going on for a long time. Hoover started spying on americans when he was pres. Hysterical over communism and his chronies went on a witch hunt. Nixon was caught spying on his oponnents and impeached and started a movement against freedom. During the Reagan administration our technology started to go to China and he admitted this. Clintons started the tobacco stuff and probably walked out rich (Hillarys bro was the lawyer from what I understand). The Bush family who are oil tycoons outlawed offshore drilling from what I understand, probably were behind the refineries being shut down. W bush lied to get the Iraq war escalating which Colon Powell admitted. While bundles of money were being dropped off in insurgent territory and we were told it was to stimulate our economy when the insurgents were probably gettin it like what happened during Iran contra. I believe we are their to control the region and rob them of their resources like the vain of lithium found to be worth over a trillion dollars not to mention the oil (sounds like a plan to financially hurt americans look at our oil prices when our refineries our shut down and it is more economically advantageous to sell it overseas. (Great way to rape americans hmm perfect way for oil men to get richer). Obama uses the recent shootings that killed children and college students to start gun control and discriminating against the mentally impaired who are all not violent. Great excuse to use against our Veterans coming Home with PTSD which most will have……I know they did it to me………..next you who have Christian or spiritual beliefs just go to a psychiatrist and tell them you believe in God and automatically you are branded delusional and crazy……Get the picture

      • Cindy Garcia says:

        most people in America these days are so easily deceived because they do not know or care about our rights as a nation. But there are a grip of us that do care and do know. I stand for the constitution

  3. B.A King says:

    You have to be3 kidding me! This is the very last straw!

  4. Mike says:

    Let’s see…

    1. The enactment of NDAA has negated the Sixth Amendment to a speedy and public trial as well as the Posse Comitatus Act;
    2. The current regime in power has been trying their hardest to negate the Second Amendment at any level they can;
    3. During the Boston Bombing tragedy a couple of items surfaced; first was the warrantless house-to-house searches were performed, infringing on the Fourth Amendment rights, and second was the recently passed Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA), which got pushed through under the radar because Boston was highlighted as ‘the top story’ providing cover.
    4. Now this movement by the Pentagon restricting military personnel to their Freedom OF Religion (mistaken as Freedom FROM Religion), which is now attacking the First Amendment and threatening the same people that have defended this country and our Constitution!!!

    Look at history over the last 50-60 years and read The Naked Communist by W. Cleon Skousen; you will notice that the goals to achieve a communistic government have been falling into place more so in the last four years than in previous decades. Time is running short.

    This is not the same country that I, or my family has helped defend. The RED bastards trying to take over continue to eat away at the foundation of our country.

    Be very afraid people! Be afraid of ANY future publicized tragedy that receives Lame Stream Media focus as it is more than likely a FALSE FLAG that has been coordinated and staged by the current regime to mask some other covert method of taking away even more of your rights. Please… stand up for your rights and DO NOT BE SHEEP! Be careful of the Darklord Hit Squad (DHS… the Gestapo of the 21st Century) to come kicking in your [my] door some morning at 3:30 AM and take you [me] off to a FEMA Internment camp never to be heard from again.

    Vaya con Dios (At least I can still say that for now)

  5. Tom Revolinsky says:

    Absolute disgrace, when I was deployed on multiple overseas tours the Chaplin was a great resource for me to get thru difficult times.

  6. chris says:

    Why so big on the Christianity aspect of it? Does this cover those who are Buddhist, Hindu, Shinto, Pagan, Wiccan etc? Why do those religions get left out. Tired of hearing the debates about this as if Christianity were the only religion worshipped in this country. I guess it is a good thing that Christianity is the only targeted religion so others are free to worship how they would like.

    • Stopthehate says:

      Because no other religion is being attacked or singled out. Did you read the article? Do you follow the news? Has the terrorist from fort hood been prosecuted?

      • Mike says:

        Well Army Major Nidal Hasan was not trying to convert people to his religion, he just shot people, and he is scheduled for a Court-Martial, albeit 4 years later.

    • Mike says:

      Christianity is far from the ‘only’ religion worshiped in this country, and our First Amendment is one reason so many people have emigrated to this country to get away from religious persecution.

      While proselytizing historically had been only related to Christianity and Judaism, more current terminology now refers to the attempt of any religion or religious individuals to convert people to their beliefs.

      As the First Amendment states: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

      So this motion against religion by the Pentagon is now “prohibiting the free exercise thereof”… remember that “freedom of speech” is also part of that amendment, and this opens the doors setting precedence to enact limitations to our “Freedom of Speech.”

    • doris says:

      Other “faiths” such as budhists are left out because they are false. There is only ONE True God that is the creator of ALL things and mankind!
      I pray for all nonbelievers that they will ask our Father in Heaven for forgiveness.

      • chris says:

        Wow it must be awesome to know everything in the universe and have arrogance equal to that of your deity. Keep your “prayers” to someone who needs them.

      • weaponkid says:

        I’m christian too but I don’t
        smack down other religions because
        of my belief you JERK!!!!!

        • Jana says:

          weaponkid, way to represent yourself as a Christian. I really don’t think calling someone a jerk is a good Christian quality.

          • weaponkid says:

            Good point…

          • emily says:

            Even a christian can see when someone is acting like a jerk. I’m just saying… look at Obama…

  7. Scott says:

    I simply have one question. Mr. Richardson what cracker jack box did you get this asinine information from? This is the dumbest information I have ever heard of in my almost 17 years of active duty service. I have friends that are military chaplains and yet done of them have heard of this either. So with that being said I will keep the negative comments to myself but I assure you I will not return to this site and will inform everyone that you publish FALSE information… have a good day sir…..
    One last thing… god bless you!!

    • Runner says:

      Fox News. There’s a link in the article. If everyone already knows about something, it’s not news.

    • Troll killer says:

      Scott is what’s called a troll, otherwise know as someone who works for the Obama truth squads. They started pounding on sites like this right around election time and they were so successful that the program never stopped.

      They think if they can lie and spread enough disinformation that they can squash the truth. Sorry Scott but this comes straight from the pentagon so nice try debunking the truth. One tell-tale sign of an obama truth squander is when they say stuff like ” I will not return to this site” they are hoping to play on the follower mentality and push people away from the truth.

      • Shocked says:

        Did you read the article? I did. There were areas that were uncomfortably up for interpretation but the goal is to eliminate proselytizing in the military. Seems more like upholding freedom of religion rather than oppressing it. I worry that it’s hard to draw the line between expressing your beliefs and proselytizing. The goals of these regulations are good goals.

        Do you have a name for conspiracy theorist trolls? Or religious fanatic trolls? Honestly, truth squad sounds more like someone who goes after the truth, not hides it. Please, using legitimate sources, prove what this article says is 100% true.

  8. ardent wolf says:

    The reason christianity is usual “bashed” the most is because outside of cults its many sects tend to be the first ones to attempt to convert people. As an atheist, although my personal religious beliefs should have no weight other than perspective in my argument, i have countlessly been harassed because i don’t perceive any entity of a higher power. Where does it say religious freedom is only for christians? Why should i be an outcast because of my beliefs? Why does everyone have to conform to one set of beliefs? How would a Christian feel if i came up to them and said, “hey your beliefs are a load of garbage, you should come and talk to my spiritual guide.” To quote leah “god is EVERYTHING” well why does it have to be your god that is “everything”? Why not the Jewish god or a pagan god? I can tell you how many times I’ve been asked “hey are you coming to church on sunday?” and i get a look of bewilderment when i say no. I was born into, and serve as a U.S. Marine, into a country that is protect my beliefs indiscriminately. And to say the United States was founded on “christian beliefs” is like saying that they are the only ones that should be allowed to practice their beliefs. Im not going to deny that there may have been a christian influence but that doesnt meam it was founded as a Christian country. I look at it like this, parts of countries in the middle east make it mandatory to be Muslim (not bashing on Muslims just using as a point) or suffer the consequences. Now imagine the US was like that only the highest power in the country, the constitution, stated that you may worship as you like. How would you feel if that was the case? I harbor no ill will against anyone of any faith because of their faith, so why should people be allowed to piss on me and mine? I have no problem with religion, hell i will often go out of my way to find out about it, so long as people don’t try and force their beliefs onto me. I see religious bigotry as the old “my dad could beat up your dad” argument that children use. As far as the whole currency issue goes, no i dont believe it belong there because it singles out GOD, despite not naming which, it can lead to unnecessary conflict that we dont need. The whole issue is rather pointless. So to recap, the main reason “Christianity is getting picked on” is because they tend to be the most insensitive, for lack of better term. I have yet to see a Jew/pagan/muslim come up to me and ask me if i am going to their respective house of worship. And as for the military order, it is unlawful for a superior to try and oppress religion onto a subordinate or the other way around. Chaplins are supposed to be nondenominational when talking to someone, this doesn’t me they cant have their own views they just cant force any religion onto anyone.

    • Josh says:

      I was about to half way consider your argument until I read the part about Christians being bad because they try to force you to go to church unlike those great muslims who don’t.

      I would rather have the guys who invite you to church (if someone inviting you is forcing you then you need to reevaluate your manliness) than the people who blow you up (muslims) for not believing in their church.

      And you need to look at who is shoving their beliefs down people’s throats because its the atheists who have taken over our schools, its curriculum and freak out the moment we teach the kids that they don’t come from rocks and dirt!

      • ardentwolf says:

        I was talking from personal experience, I PERSONALLY have never had it happen, have i had shitheads try and shoot at me and mortar me? Yeah a few times in afgan, and where did i say Christians where bad? Some of the people i would put my life in there hands are some of the most devout christians i know. I was trying to get you to see through a different perspective, as the old saying goes: “forgive thy brother, fore he was born with only one pair of eyes to see”. I never said person A was better than person B or that person C was the best person because of his beliefs.

        • Whiskey Tango Foxtrot says:

          I appreciate your service and I totally agree with you. I am the black sheep in a family of devout Christians. It’s not that I’m opposed to any organized religion, but I AM against having opinions pressed upon me or being made to feel like an outcast because I don’t believe in the same things as you. Agin, thank you for your service and providing the right to worship whomever these folks wish.

      • Alan says:

        no, we come from stars and stardust… as with EVERYTHING else!

    • Ryan says:

      I’m going to say up front that I am Christian who strongly believes that God is my Lord and savior. However, I mean no disrespect to you or your beliefs, nor do I think you should not be allowed to disagree with the Christian faith or any faith for that matter. You quoted Leah above and said, “Why is it her god that has to be everything?” Well, no one has held you at gunpoint and said you must say that her god is everything so it’s not that her god “has” to be everything, that’s just what she believes. She might not necessarily be conveying her beliefs in the best way but she’s still just standing up for her own thoughts the same as you. To be honest this entire article and argument is quite pointless because in the end, everyone is still just going to stand up for what they believe in. Also, down below where you reply to Ronda McCarty’s post saying, “Why is it ok for someone to spit gospel in my face..” Well again she isn’t really spitting gospel in your face, she’s just being adamant about her own faith. I will say that I disagree with the way she did it because typing in all caps and yelling about how Obama should be “VETO’D OUT OF OFFICE” doesn’t make any sense and isn’t going to help anything. And as a final note, towards the end of above post you complain about how Christians are the only ones who ask you to come to their place of worship. To me, it doesn’t make any sense to complain about that. You say that Christians treat you pourly when you haven’t done anything wrong, yet you call them “insensitive” and complain about them spreading their own beliefs just as you have done above. I’m not saying there aren’t any Christians that are insensitive or try to force religion upon you, but you’re just as bad as they are when you base your opinions about Christian people solely on personal encounters you’ve had.

      • ardentwolf says:

        Ryan, i do respect that your beliefs are yours and that you can belief what you choose.

      • ardentwolf says:

        Ryan, i respect that you have your opinions and i thank you for showing tolerance towards mine. The whole point of the “your god is everything” was to drive the point that MOST christians, note i did not say all, believe that their voice should be heard above all others. For example, a few years ago i heard a piece fox did on whether or not Christmas trees should be called “holiday trees” and whether or not it should be displayed in public. Personally i dont care what its called and whether or not it is displayed in public. I grew up in a family that celebrates christmas, not for a religious purpose but something the family could gather for and spend time with each other for and it gave us something beautiful to look at instead of bare walls or a plain snow covered yard. But some atheists see it as a sign of favoritism, for lack of better word. “why do they have to and get to flaunt their beliefs in my face?” Mind you not all atheists are bitter or angry at religion we just dont like it flaunted in our faces. While you could make the argument, “well its not flaunting it, its showing pride in your faith.” you have to keep in mind everyone has a different perspective so what one person could see as the norm, another could be seen as offensive. I understand religion is important to some people and it may have helped them in some capacity, but the whole fire and brimstone piece and “if you dont accept jesus, your going to hell” piece is extremely offensive, its like saying “oh jesus was just a crazy carpenter who talked a lot” (please note these are not my beliefs just one of the things ive run across) the whole idea of a sense of hypocrisy in the sense that “oh well your just an ignorant athiest who doesnt see from my view so your opinion means nothing, but dont you dare even hint at talking down my beliefs” is extremely infuriating because it comes off as your better than me because of your beliefs. This is the main reason most atheists pic up “arms” is because of the whole “my way or the highway” that some Christians give off. I am not naive enough to think that peace can exist completely because the only way to truly come to peace is to eradicate any opposition to one single idea, the only way this is remotely possible is war and even then its not a matter of who was right it is a matter of who is left. So long as everyone is different you will have different ideas and views. As for the part about miss/mrs/ms McCarthy how is quoting scripture not spitting gospel? I have no intention to spread any message or lesson, and i have no problem with people having their beliefs but how is making a counter arguement to a point decreeing that all Christians are insensitive. The whole point about the christians inviting me to worship was that to me atleast no one else active tries to recruit people and not so much of a complaint than a observation. And finally i cannot base my observations off of anything besides personal experience because who am i to talk about something that hasn’t happened to me, that would null and void any point i was trying to make and demolish any credibility. Do not mistake my words, some of my best friends are Christian and i would gladly take a bullet to the skull for them however i did not nor will i ever say “all Christians are bigots and fools” i know this is not true the point of the argument was towards a minority of those who are bigots and zealots.

  9. RONDA McCARTY says:

    NO ONE HAS TO ABIDE BY MAN’S LAW WHEN IT GOES AGAINST THE LAW OF GOD! I WISH I WERE IN THE MILITARY, I WOULD STAND HIGH UPON A MOUNTAIN AND PREACH THE WORD OF GOD FOR ALL TO HEAR AND DARE MAN TO COURT MARTIAL ME!!!!! OBAMA, SHOULD BE VETO’D OUT OF OFFICE! IMMEDIATELY!

    Romans 13:1-7
    King James Version (KJV)

    13 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

    2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

    3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

    4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

    5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.

    6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God’s ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

    7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

    • ardentwolf says:

      That what i am talking about, why is ok for someone to spit gospel in my face and say my beliefs are garbage but if i did the same thing it would be wrong? Ronda McCarty, how would you feel if someone told you, you where wrong and started spitting torah quotes at you?

  10. EMH says:

    I am a liberal and beyond appalled. I was raised Catholic and have my own beliefs, because that is the freedom of being an US citizen. Note, I note longer practice organized religion, but have my own beliefs, faith and spirituality. That said I oppose this wholeheartedly.

  11. Hannah says:

    I’m 15 years old & completely outraged. What was this country founded on? Religious freedom. It seems to me like were loosing what so-called ‘freedom’ we have. I am a Christian and will practice my beliefs. Athiests are trying to take away what we believe so they have more room for what they don’t believe. Wake up, America. This is not how a country should be ran.

  12. Marilyn says:

    What can be done to stop this Administration from trampling on the religeous freedom of our Christions in the service? If ever the need for faith was more needed that on the battlefields, I cannot imagine not allowing Chaplins to comfort and pray with those who need it. Oboma talks about the many fine Muslims, while trying to persuade us that radical Islamic terrorists are really not the problem. He says he is a Christion. I never believed it. This proves it.There should be outrage over this crushing of our religeious rights.

  13. Julia says:

    Marilyn, Thanks for your comment! I agree whole heartedly!!

  14. DoYourResearch says:

    Either get your Google on or click on the article cited but people are taking this way out of context. It is a well intended law and is not going to prosecute Christians for practicing their faith. Please stop making ignorant comments if you do not understand the issue at hand. These regulations are to protect people and freedom of religion. I hope that it is not abused but I support it whole-heartedly.

    This article is a complete exaggeration of the truth. Do not allow yourself to be fooled so easily.

    • Mike says:

      So, and no offense intended to any religion, you believe this is implying that regardless of the religion, members of the military cannot wear white short sleeved shirts with a tie and ride bicycles introducing themselves; or go around handing out Watch Tower pamphlets; or encourage others sitting at their meal to bow their heads and make the hand motion of head, stomach, shoulder, shoulder; or explain why and encourage others to wash their hands and feet before kneeling on a mat and cut off their heads if they do not conform; or even sit cross-legged with your hands on your knees and chant while burning incense… People can still do which ever of these practices they chose, so long as they do not try to influence someone else to follow their belief?

  15. Will says:

    How can so many christians be so intolerable of others and their views? Whether it is religion or politics, are you supposed to be accepting of everyone even if you do not understand? I don’t really know the answer since I refuse to be a part of any religion that has seen it fit to divide based on views and rewrite the very thing they believe in to fit their overall interpretation and agenda.

    • Jim Thompson says:

      It looks to me , like other faiths and religion is not tolerable of the Christian faith and the Christians. Believing in Jesus Christ who is the son of God sure can bring controversy and hatred cant it to the people of the earth. Satan sure is threatened by them to turn the hearts of other faiths to kill and burn down churches and homes of Christians. Tells me there must be a whole lot of truths about what Jesus is all about and why no one will enter the kingdom of God in Heaven without passing thru the courts o Jesus Christ first.

  16. Believer in God says:

    Forgive them father.. give everyone strength .. they no no better ..

  17. Jim Thompson says:

    The news about Christian churches, homes burning to the ground, deaths and tortures of Preachers, pastors, Christians in various countries in the world is at our door steps in North America. The Anti Christian movement in the Military is the first step to total anti Christ movement in the USA. Civil war is around the corner Americans and massive death and destruction is about to be everywhere in your great land. Woe to be living in the USA in future years ahead. Canada is not a safe zone either.

  18. Vearl says:

    I will agree that a person has a right to believe in whatever he chooses. At the same time when radical people ( Muslim terriost) tell me that I will die for my Christian beliefs, you can bet your sweet ass that I take them seriously.
    When the elected president shows more support for the enemy than he does for this country, than I have problems with that president. He should be removed from office.
    I did read that all miltary could not practice their Christian religion. Why does this not apply to all other religions? That act by itself might cause armed problems in our country.
    Would it not be better for immigrants to return to their former countries and practice their religion there? I think so.
    If worse comes to shove, I will shove back with everything that I have.

  19. sherman says:

    IT really does not matter what your religious beliefs are if you just look at the Bible as a hand book for survival in a truly free country you will see why we believe in God and need His Comandments to make it work.AS in God Bless America

  20. FamilyGuyisforNerds says:

    Obama is an Atheist. He used a black church for political gain (I suspected this). A White House insider knows Obama and his family, Pelosi, Reid are all ATHEISTS (they don’t believe in God or Devil nor Jesus Christ nor Demons). They think God/Devil and any concept of Heaven and Hell (be on earth and/or afterlife) is a joke and Christianity (believing in God) is a fairy tale. When you have bigots like Bill Maher (who is Beavis and Butthead alive), Richard Dawkins (like Obama, a Kenyan native), that douchebag on Family Guy Seth MacFarlane and the Mickey Mouse tattooed/chain smoking/vegan/Obama loving/God and Devil denouncing TNUC Janeane Garofalo scorning people who choose to believe in God/Devil/Christ/Demons and question/doubt Obama as either children or racists.

    Obama’s mother was an Atheist (a militant one at that who didn’t celebrate Christmas nor birthdays nor Easter) and his birth father was a Muslim Atheist (born and raised a Muslim yet renounced his belief). His stepdad was a Muslim but went with his Atheist grandparents to Hawaii to do drugs and his records are all sealed. Plus Obama still snorts cocaine and parties.

    I know Obama to be Atheist folks (his covering of Jesus Christ at Georgetown in 2009, refusal to mention God many times (GW Bush always mentioned God by comparison), his acknowledgements of Atheists/non-believers/faithless, stated time and time again that America was not a Christian nation are TELL TALE SIGNS) and sympathizes with Muslims and those who have been castigated (hippies, drug addicts, Black Panthers) by people who believe in something.

  21. nini mendibles says:

    this is a direct violation of our natural human rights granted to us by “our creator” and protected by our constitution. our founding fathers designed the constitution, the bill of rights, and the declaration of independence, based on these “natural human rights” which they believed was an automatic right given to us by our “creator”. the obama administation is in violation of the peoples rights and our constitution which is designed to protect these rights.

  22. sewster says:

    ardentwolf…paragraphs man, paragraphs!

  23. armyguy says:

    The article spells chaplain as “chaplin.” It makes me wonder if this is a hoax. However, my command’s chaplain says he sees this in the future, and that it will cause a major reaction within the Army. I wonder if it will make Christian soldiers leave the Army, leaving only Muslim soldiers. AND THAT would cause a major problem across the country!

  24. Doug W says:

    I like Bacon.

  25. Bill says:

    obama and his co-harts will never be satisfied until every citizen in the United States is of the Islamic faith or killed by his muslims. And, we are sitting on our asses and letting them do it.

  26. Kathryn says:

    I think there’s more to this law than is reported here.I’ll check with my daughter, she’s in the Air Force. She’s always willing to talk to people about her faith or theirs if they want to talk about it.
    Oh, the Fort Hood shooter was found guilty.

  27. Enter your name... says:

    when god vreate man he give them the fredom of choice , we dont have the right to remove this gift from them

  28. Sherry says:

    Why is our government allowing one atheist to control what Christians can do?
    If Americans don’t think Obama is a Muslim,you had better think again. If he was a Christian he would not let Weinstein control what Christians do.
    I thought we had freedom of religion. We cannot let the Obama administration and Weinstein get away with this.

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