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Seattle Trying to Ban Land Ownership in Name of Equality

I’ve written about it many times in the past. The once great dream of owning your own little slice of land, living your life without having to worry about paying rent or relying on the government is gone. The American Dream is literally turning into an American Nightmare, as tyrannical politicians seek to limit your rights to own land.

Seattle, Washington may be one of the first major cities in the United States to outlaw land ownership for families.

Single Family Home

According to a draft letter obtained by the Seattle Times, Seattle Mayor Ed Murray’s advisory committee on housing is currently drafting a set of rules that will ban single-family zoning in Seattle. Part of the draft reads: “We can still be a city for everyone, but only if we give up our outdated ideal of every family living in their own home on a 5,000 square foot lot.”

Just like everything these days, so called “racial injustice” is being used to push the land ban. According to the idiotic Seattle housing committee, owning your own piece of land no somehow makes you a racist.

The draft letter says that single-family zoning has “roots in racial and class exclusion. The zoning remains “among the largest obstacles to realizing the city’s goals for equity and affordability.”

So owning your own home, on your own piece of land, now makes you a racist who is holding back equality. You really can’t make this stuff up; it’s like we are living in Bizarro world!

The housing committee of citizen volunteers voted 19-3 to recommend replacing single-family zoning with a “lower density residential zone.” This means the single family home would be a thing of the past in Seattle, replaced by apartment buildings and housing projects — Because nothing says diversity like piling a bunch of people into low-income housing projects.

These people HATE Freedom and Self-Reliance

If you don’t realize what this is all about, let me spell it out for you. These people HATE Freedom, and they HATE the Self-Reliant lifestyle.

The government, at every level in this country, has become corrupted by power hungry politicians who are desperate to control every little aspect of your life, including where and how you live your lives.

They hate home ownership because it allows you a small slice of freedom; the chance to live your life without the government butting into every little aspect of what you do. They want a bunch of dependent drones piled into government approved housing units, who they can then control and dictate policy to.

It started years ago, when we started allowing these unconstitutional government zoning boards to bully us into letting them say what we can and can’t do on our own land.

From the WWII vet who was forced out of his 88-year-old family owned grocery store, to the 76-year-old Marine Veteran who lost his $197,000 home over a $134 property tax debt, to the heartbreaking story of Andrew Wordes who took his life after code enforcement teams seized his home, to the Off-Griders in California who were threatened with arrest for daring to live an off the grid lifestyle, these stories highlight how out of control these government thugs have grown.

Over the last couple of years we have covered story after story detailing how the American Dream of Home Ownership has become a literal American Nightmare. From giant corporate entities using eminent domain to steal people’s homes, to the federal government using the EPA to claim the nation’s waterways and private land, it seems homeowners and freedom lovers are under attack from every direction.

128 Comments on Seattle Trying to Ban Land Ownership in Name of Equality

  1. DEBORAH DAVIS

    These government THUGS should give up their homes and land before instituting anything on anyone .Besides are WE THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED THESE THUGS INTO GOVERNMENT.GET ENOUGH PEOPLE TO SIGN PETITIONS FROM PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE COUNTIES AND YOU CAN CHANGE THEIR LAWS ALSO.

    • Jeff

      Them evil people believe adamantly in only one phrase, “Do as I say, not as I do”.

      • Rockie

        I think the rich with all their wealth and all their land should start the process and show us what they want us to do by example. By example, subdivide all your land and give a piece of it to each of the poor folks who need it. And while your at it build them their own little house on their own little bit of land they you give them. Sound equal to me. Let us know how it works out for you.

        • Thomas Reece

          Lets all read a bit about Venezuela its working out so well for them yes lets bring it here.

        • John

          ?

        • ruth

          Ruth agrees with rocky

      • Gloria

        When you all are living in your little chicken coops remember, “You used to be able to drive in Seattle. Now you can only take a bus.” Just where on earth are you going to put more blacktop and concrete? Just shut the city down to further building! Use what is there. Or replace with like kind.

    • If you ‘petition’ you in fact ‘beg’
      Self educate on implications to the ‘words’ or ‘terms’ you use… including ‘person’ and ‘human’ and more. My preference is self-identification to correct mistake for technically those born upon any American state\nation typically by technicality are neither “citizen” (military), “civilian” (Roman) nor “person” but by their own consent. further more – research and study very carefully U.S. Style Manual chapters three and eleven http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/GPO-STYLEMANUAL-2008/content-detail.html

    • CapitalistPig

      From Animal Farm to City Farm….All pigs are equal, But some are more equal than others.

    • Francois

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      Peggy Noonan wrote about Trump this weekend in the Wall Street Journal

      Trump – Things You Might Not Know About Him

      Trump, hopefully, is waking some of the RINOs up. The criticisms of Trump are amazingly​ missing something. They are​ lacking in ​negative stories from those who work for him or have had business dealings with him. After all the employees he’s had and all the business deals he’s made there is a void of criticism. In fact, long term employees call him a strong and merciful leader and say he is far more righteous and of high integrity​ than people may think​. And while it may surprise many, he’s actually humble when it comes to his generosity and kindness. A good example is a story that tells of his limo breaking down on a deserted highway outside of New York City. A middle-aged couple stopped to help him and as a thank you he paid off their mortgage, but he didn’t brag about that. Generous and good people rarely talk of charity they bestow on others.​But as much as all this is interesting, the real thing that people want to know is what Donald Trump’s plan is for America. It’s funny how so many people say they don’t know what it is, or they act like Trump is hiding it. The information is readily available if people would just do a little homework. But, since most Americans won’t.

      1.) Trump believes that America should not intervene militarily in other country’s problems without being compensated for doing so. If America is going to risk the lives of our soldiers and incur the expense of going to war, then the nations we help must be willing to pay for our help. Using the Iraq War as an example, he cites the huge monetary expense to American taxpayers (over $1.5 trillion, and possibly much more depending on what sources are used to determine the cost) in addition to the cost in human life. He suggests that Iraq should have been required to give us enough of their oil to pay for the expenses we incurred. He includes in those expenses the medical costs for our military and $5 million for each family that lost a loved one in the war and $2 million for each family of soldiers who received severe injuries.

      2.) Trump wants America to have a strong military again. He believes the single most important function of the federal government is national defense. He has said he wants to find the General Patton or General MacArthur that could lead our military buildup back to the strength it needs to be. While he hasn’t said it directly that I know of, Trump’s attitude about America and about winning tells me he’d most likely be quick to eliminate rules of engagement that handicap our military in battle. Clearly Trump is a “win at all costs” kind of guy, and I’m sure that would apply to our national defense and security, too

      3.) Trump wants a strong foreign policy and believes that it must include 7 core principles American interests come first. Always. No apologies. Maximum firepower and military preparedness. Only go to war to win. Stay loyal to your friends and suspicious of your enemies.Keep the technological sword razor sharp. See the unseen Prepare for threats before they materialize. Respect and support our present and past warriors.

      4.) Trump believes that terrorists who are captured should be treated as military combatants, not as criminals like the Obama administration treats them.

      5.) Trump makes the point that China’s manipulation of their currency has given them unfair advantage in our trade dealings with them. He says we must tax their imports to offset their currency manipulation, which will cause American companies to be competitive again and drive manufacturing back to America and create jobs here. Although he sees China as the biggest offender, he believes that America should protect itself from all foreign efforts to take our jobs and manufacturing. For example, Ford is building a plant in Mexico and Trump suggests that every part or vehicle Ford makes in Mexico be taxed 35% if they want to bring it into the U. S., which would cause companies like Ford to no longer be competitive using their Mexican operations and move manufacturing back to the U.S., once againcreating jobs here.

      6.) Trump wants passage of NOPEC legislation (No Oil Producing and Exporting Cartels Act – NOPEC – S.394), which would allow the government to sue OPEC for violating antitrust laws. According to Trump, that would break up the cartel. He also wants to unleash our energy companies to drill domestically (sound like Sarah Palin’s drill baby, drill?) thereby increasing domestic production creating jobs and driving domestic costs of oil and gas down while reducing dependence on foreign oil.

      7.) Trump believes a secure border is critical for both security and prosperity in America. He wants to build a wall to stop illegals from entering and put controls on immigration. (And he says he’ll get Mexico to pay for the wall, which many have scoffed at, but given his business successes I wouldn’t put it past him.) He also wants to enforce our immigration laws and provide no path to citizenship for illegals.

      8.) Trump wants a radical change to the tax system to not only make it better for average Americans, but also to encourage businesses to stay here and foreign businesses to move here. The resulting influx of money to our nation would do wonders for our economy. He wants to make America the place to do business. He also wants to lower the death tax and the taxes on capital gains and dividends. This would put more than $1.6 trillion back into the economy and help rebuild the 1.5 million jobs we’ve lost to the current tax system. He also wants to charge companies who outsource jobs overseas a 20% tax, but for those willing to move jobs back to America they would not be taxed. And for citizens he has a tax plan that would allow Americans to keep more of what they earn and spark economic growth. He wants to change the personal income tax to: Up to $30,000 taxed at 1%. From $30,000 to $100,000 taxed at 5%. From $100,000 to $1,000,000 taxed at 10%. $1,000,000 and above taxed at 15%.

      9.) Trump wants Obamacare repealed. He says it’s a “job-killing, health care-destroying monstrosity” that “can’t be reformed, salvaged, or fixed.” He believes in allowing real competition in the health insurance marketplace to allow competition to drive prices down. He also believes in tort reform to get rid of defensive medicine and lower costs.

      10.) Trump wants spending reforms in Washington, acknowledging that America spends far more than it receives in revenue. He has said he believes that if we don’t stop increasing the national debt once it hits $24 trillion it will be impossible to save this country.

      11.) Even though he says we need to cut spending, he does not want to harm those on Medicare, Medicaid, or Social Security. He believes that the citizens have faithfully paid in to the system to have these services available and that the American government has an obligation to fulfill its end of the bargain and provide those benefits. Therefore, he wants to build the economy up so that we have the revenue to pay those costs without cutting the benefits to the recipients. He disagrees with Democrats who think raising taxes is the answer and says that when you do that you stifle the economy. On the other hand, when you lower taxes and create an environment to help businesses they will grow, hire more workers, and those new workers will be paying taxes that become more tax revenue for the government.

      12.) Trump also wants reform of the welfare state saying that America needs “a safety net, not a hammock.” He believes in a welfare to work program that would help reduce the welfare roles and encourage people to get back to work. And he wants a crackdown on entitlement fraud.

      13.) Trump believes climate change is a hoax.

      14.) Trump opposes Common Core.

      15.) Trump is pro-life, although he allows for an exception due to rape, incest, or the life of the mother.

      16.) Trump is pro 2nd Amendment rights.

      17.) Trump’s view on same-sex marriage is that marriage is between a man and a woman, but he also believes that this is a states rights issue, not a federal issue.

      18.) Trump supports the death penalty. Trump believes that there is a lack of common sense, innovative thinking in Washington (Hmmm… looks like he believes in horse sense!). He says it’s about seeing the unseen and that’s the kind of thinking we need to turn this country around. He tells a personal story to illustrate the point: “When I opened Trump National Golf Club at Rancho Palos Verdes in Los Angeles, I was immediately told that I would need to build a new and costly ballroom. The current ballroom was gorgeous, but it only sat 200 people and we were losing business because people needed a larger space for their events. Building a new ballroom would take years to get approval and permits (since it’s on the Pacific Ocean), and cost about $5 million. I took one look at the ballroom and saw immediately what needed to be done. The problem wasn’t the size of the room, it was the size of the chairs. They were huge, heavy, and unwieldy. We didn’t need a bigger ballroom, we needed smaller chairs! So I had them replaced with high-end, smaller chairs. I then had our people sell the old chairs and got more money for them than the cost of the new chairs. In the end, the ballroom went from seating 200 people to seating 320 people. Our visitors got the space they desired, and I spared everyone the hassle of years of construction and $5 million of expense. It’s amazing what you can accomplish with a little common sense. On top of his saving years of construction and $5 million in expenses, he also was able to keep the ballroom open for business during the time it would have been under remodeling, which allowed him to continue to make money on the space instead of losing that revenue during construction time.

      19. Donald Trump’s entire life has been made up of success and winning. He’s been accused of bankruptcies, but that’s not true. He’s never filed personal bankruptcy. He’s bought companies and legally used bankruptcy laws to restructure their debt, just as businesses do all the time. But he’s never been bankrupt personally.

      20. He’s a fighter that clearly loves America and would fight for our nation. Earlier I quoted Trump saying, “I love America. And when you love something, you protect it passionately – fiercely, even.” We never hear that from Democrats or even from most Republicans. Donald Trump is saying things that desperately need to be said but no other candidate has shown the fortitude to stand up and say them. Looking over this list of what he wants for America I see a very necessary set of goals that are long past due.

      Before we criticize someone because the media does, maybe we should seriously consider what he has to offer, as it is important to know what each of our candidates to replace a President who has ruined us globally, and who has put us on a path to disaster! This is not an appeal to vote for Trump, only to give some depth of comparison, before this week’s debate.

      “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.” Ronald Reagan

      • Martin Mosier

        Trump better employ a small army of armed guards. The Washington establishment will stop at nothing to keep him from being elected.
        If he is nominated I will vote for him. We have to stop the socialists from making everyone, except government, equally poor.

  2. Ken

    Washington and California, you voted for them, you wanted a Nanny state, you got it! Now you and that “undocumented immigrant” can be equal…

    • KM

      So true! This is one of the reasons why we sold our house in Seattle. They elected the first marxist (her words) to the city council. They rummage through the people’s garbage cans to make sure they aren’t wasting food, if you are ‘guilty’ you are fined. You reap what you sow!

      • laura m.

        I left Seattle in 1964, never to return. Live in S.E. US since. Those who love Marxist gov. control freaks will stay, as most everyone (so dumbed down) will condone living in stack ’em and pack ’em housing.

        • TheTruthBurns

          Totally agree – I left Crapipornia & never looked back. I also live in the se us & love it.

    • Cindi

      NO we didn’t vote for them…Washington State in mostly all rural and conservative except 3 counties…those 3 counties are huge and liberal..they carry the state and THEY voted for these idiots!!

      • Bill

        Sorry Cindi but they count the number of votes (people), not the size of the county. You still voted them in. Sucks. Michigan, where I live, is the same damn way.

        • Bobbi

          Actually with the way that most states use their votes they can look at what the biggest counties say, and decide that is where they are sending their electoral votes, that’s why these idiots keep getting control.

        • Duane

          Bill,

          Sorry, have to disagree with you. Cindi is correct concerning the counties and how elections work in our area. Liberals clearly outnumber conservatives in our area. Fortunately, this problem is contained within Snohomish and King County, although Pierce County is starting to see some of the same crap as the 2 northern counties.

          Unfortunately, for us, this starts at the city level, then makes to the county board, who have the same level of asinine thinking as the city politicians.

          I intentionally moved out of King County to get away from this crap, just wondering when it will make its way further south.

          A nanny state we will become, no doubt about it.

        • simon

          So you think that by voting you actually make a difference. Were you born yesterday?? Seriously whoever is in power the corporations and the minority Elite pull all strings!

          • Leah

            ok so don’t vote, then for sure you give up any right you ever may have had. Don’t be negative. Vote for the person you know who will hold the line.

          • StephanEnter your name...

            Votes are counted by corrupt computers in the United States. Your vote is meaningless. It is assigned to whatever ”
            candidate” the owners and developers of the machines dictate. The only way to crash the system is for everyone to refuse to vote. Stop supporting these criminals by pretending your votes make a difference!

      • nicole

        The counties that produce all of the foods are constantly outvoted by the counties who eat all the food.

    • Jeff Brodhead

      The Hell “WE” did!

  3. Freedom

    This is called Communism. Only the people in government get to have everything and the rest nothing.

    • TPSnodgrass

      Let the bastards collect property taxes from ALL of the non-property owners FIRST. Then we can hear all about how THAT isn’t “social Justice Equality for all. One day, the PIGS that consider themselves far more “enlightened” and “Equal” than the masses, will have to face down those same masses revolting against them. Alas, no one will come to their rescue. Serves them right.

      • Bobbi

        And that is exactly why they are trying to take our guns away, makes a revolt a lot less scary.

      • Berni

        So you’re saying enlightened people should be attacked because they have the courage to learn the truth and fight back rather than ignore it and hope it will go away like the rest of you cowards?

  4. Nester

    I’m appalled at how off you are on your analysis of Seattle’s plan for increasing housing affordability. Have you even taken the time to download and read the plan?!? I have. Nowhere in the plan does it state that the city is going to “outlaw” land ownership by single families. The plan will actually allow more options in single family zoned neighborhoods like subdividing up a property, building MIL units, etc. You will always be allowed to keep your single family home as is under the current conditions.
    By increasing options for homeowners, the city is actually giving them more FREEDOM to do what they’d like with their property, and isn’t FREEDOM really important to you?

    • Joe

      I read it and it’s exactly what it says. I also read the Seatlle times article moron.

      • paleologue

        I’ve just seen the Seattle Times article– and that’s not what it says at all. A more careful reading would discover that the suggestion was to eliminate single family ZONING. Not single family HOMES. There’s a very big difference.

        • John Fairplay

          If there’s no land zoned for “single family homes,” how can you build a “single family home?” Do you understand how zoning works?

          • Yvonne MooreEnter your name...

            John, in Kentucky, we have a board of adjustments to help people who desire to do something like this.

    • obamaissatan

      B.S Libtard.

    • SNIPER

      I can see it now, my little house sitting among the thirty story projects on all foue sides,,,wheee.

      • gloria

        it has already happened.

    • Savage4

      Ah yes, the old argument that the government is only trying to provide more opportunity by giving out “obama phones”, “Obama Care”, and “better Government Housing”….all in the name of more freedom….

    • antiobama

      FREEDOM sir, would mean LESS regulations, ordinances and laws. When government comes out with NEW laws, this is actually LESS FREEDOM! You Nester are a MORON!!!!

    • Ken M

      EARS, NESTER.

    • czman

      You are not going to “sub-divide” my property!

    • Mary Ellen Hoenig

      Will you be able to sell tour home to another person who wants to buy and use it as a single family home? Or to build a single family home on a lot you own? Will you be able to buy a lot to build a single family home? Things to think about!!

    • scragsma

      Yes. “You will always be allowed to keep your single family home as is” — for now, anyway. You’re grandfathered-in, but no one will be allowed to do the same in the future, and history indicates that the uber-liberal Seattle powers will probably take only a few years to revoke the ‘privilege’ for those currently grandfathered-in.

    • Daniel

      Nester you’re a dumbass. What u fail to realise, just like most libtards is that this will make it easier for big housing company’s to build more section 8 apartment complexes. And why would a company want to build apartment complexes that they can only change minimal fees to rent? Oh, that’s right, because the government pays them to make up the for the lost revenue

      • Berni

        As long as you keep using the media generated labels like libtard and the like, you are what is keeping this country prejudiced and unable to get together to get this government ousted!!!!!

    • Jeremy

      I just want to contribute some thoughts. I am really enjoying this site and the practical information available. I dream of escaping the established system one day, and my despair at the difficulty of doing so weighs on me. That being said, the political pieces I’ve read here tend to lack objectivity.

      And personally, the bias demonstrated by some of the commenters turns me off. Rather than insulting people with differing opinions or information, try presenting a sound argument. If you don’t have anything intelligent to say, save the name-calling for the mainstream media sites.

      I generally oppose regulation of citizens, but I’d argue most that people moving to the Seattle area are liberally minded and have a good idea what they’re getting into. In an ideal situation, harking back to the notion that states were groups of like minded individuals developing laws on which the residents agreed, I think localities should determine their own zoning laws. In that same vein, we should have access to localities with minimal zoning, for those of us that like to live with minimal government intervention.

      On a final tangential note, a trend we’ve seen historically is the propagation of this dichotomy between public and private sectors. It seems to me that a rampant distrust of government has led many self-described libertarians to put a great deal of trust in the private sector. Corporations have many of the same rights as people with no conscience and much more influence. Large corporations have effectively learned to maneuver government entities to their benefit. Additionally, corporate executive positions attract narcissists and psychopaths (technically, antisocial), meaning a disproportionate number of these companies are captained by individuals who also lack a conventional conscience.

      While the scope of government has become terrifying, I suspect that in an oversimplified view one might argue government regulation keeps us from becoming Wal-Mart citizens. Do we have other protections against the corps and the banks? I honestly don’t know. I don’t think we do, which mortifies me. I’m of the mind that the free market has failed on this large scale for the same reason Communism has always failed – because people artificially manipulate the systems thereby adulterating them. If political and economic systems could remain pure, they could play out in practice the same way they do in theory.

      Sociological studies have demonstrated that a sense of community within a society is lost once the society becomes too large (I’m paraphrasing, of course). People break off into smaller groups. Societies function best in small scale situations, in which individuals know one another. I’m not a political theorist or an economist, but it seems to me that we see the same thing with governments and economies. It seems history teaches us that large social experiments don’t work. Entities that are too large or complicated for a single individual to understand, are likely to take on a life of their own, grow too large to control, and overwhelm the individual. I’m reminded of Vonnegut’s Player Piano.

      The economic and governmental mechanisms have become too unwieldy to maintain. No elected officials can “fix it”, despite their intentions, and there’s no where left to run from it. In my mind, the only solution is to scrap existing legislation and call a new constitutional convention. I think I would prefer to place my trust in a local government founded by like-minded individuals without federal oversight rather than the overgrown system we have. But I don’t know if I’m willing to commit treason to do it…

  5. taxn2poverty

    @Jp: First and foremost, damn the poor, and if we run out of the first bottle of damn, then we get another full bottle of damn, and damn the poor again. As a tax payer I am so sick and tired of paying taxes to the drugged out poor, the whore single mother and her bastard kids poor, the ptsd veteran that has no outward signs of trauma poor, the I had a bad childhood poor, and every other type of poor out there that requires my tax dollars to feed the lowlifes. Life will never be equal. Some have and some don’t. Let the don’ts spawn in their squalor until they drown in their own self imposed poverty and walk off and leave the carcasses where they fell. Piss on them and the liberal horse they rode in on. Stupidity is not a disability, ptsd is not an excuse to rob the taxpayers, sex is not a reason to download a bastard child every year, and the unforgivable fact that they choose of their own free will to live in squalor inside a roach infested house trailer or one bedroom apartment is not my fault. And it only became my responsibility when some lunatic gave people that can’t afford to get a car a free ride in a taxpayer get out the vote van that seats 12 to the voting booth so they could vote for more ugimme entitlements at my expense. Piss on the poor from the top of their ignorant heads to the tip of their filthy toes. So, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, did you enjoy the theatre.”

    • TheSouthernNationalist

      excellent.

      • taxedn2poverty

        @Southern Nationalist, V, Sniper, Boxer 7, and anyone else that responded positively. God bless all of you and may He keep you through the coming trials and tribulations. Remember, if there is to be a New America with a better future after teotwawki, then it will be people such as yourselves that build it. Again, best wishes and God bless always!

    • V

      Excellent indeed. You expressed exactly how I feel. Thank you.

    • SNIPER

      This is the word we need to spread,,but the far left media will allways distort our message and make us out to be crazy radicals,,,,,however if this what it takes,,damn the torpedos full steam ahead.

    • boxer7

      This comment does make allot of sense. Just think about all he has stated and I think you’ll find it to be quite true, Especially in today’s world.

    • lucy

      You are a worker of iniquity you work for satan. You are lied to! You are decieved.repent ask Jesus to forgive you! Tomorrow is not promised to us. Your way of thinking is so off base. Your politicians are bought by the global elites. They are the ones that robbed us poor, middle class and the rich! Obviously you are not rich because if you were, you would not be spewing out such garbage and lies. These global demonic elites did this to us. Your president finished us off with his communist ways. Not to mention his occult islam religion that controls his mind. Dont blame the poor,put blame where it is deserved! Satan who behind all these corrupt delusional perverted people. They dont care about you! Only them selfs and they all will burn in hell! Hilary Clinton is a witch! She is a communist who finish this nation off. Judgement is coming to America because of people like you who are twisted and go along with this assine twisted lies from the pit of hell!

      • taxedn2poverty

        @Lucy: Tell me how, just one incident, where the banks robbed anyone. I have a mortgage. The banker did not hold a gun on me and make me sign it. I did it of my own free will. I owe the debt, plus interest. He did me a favor. I have a place to live. It’s the business world we all live in. I meet a small car payment on a small car so I can ride back and forth to work and have a roof over my head. The most of the rest of what is left the government takes by force from me to give to you. You receive without working, therefore I automatically work without receiving. This is not right. As far as our government goes, you are preaching to the choir. As far as Christ goes, which is a long, long way: He said, “Those that do not work should not eat.” He couldn’t have made it any clearer. I believe in that Man and any chance you will ever see me in hell is slim and none. He also said don’t carry on a conversation with a fool, so, goodbye.

        • BlameTheFed

          You are deluded. The banking system is a total scam. The money the bank lent you for your mortgage was created out of thin air. They did not lend you money from depositors. Now you have to pay them back with INTEREST. Where will the money come from to pay that interest? Answer: MORE money will have to be lent into existence. Thus, DEBT must perpetually EXPAND. It is an pyramid scheme. That’s why the whole system almost collapsed in 2008. All it takes to pop a debt bubble is for a few suckers not to be able to make their mortgage payments –the banks are still leveraged into the trillions with mortgage backed securities and credit default swaps, sovereign debt to socialist debtor nations like Greece. We don’t have sound money and we don’t have free market capitalism. We have fascism, state-capitalism, or corporatism- take your pick. It is completely corrupt.

          • taxn2poverty

            No sir, I am not deluded, and you are playing the blame game. If money comes from thin air, then that’s ok with me. Money is nothing more than a medium of exchange. When we were on the gold standard the banks still charged interest. People still went bankrupt and lost all they had. Why, the same as today, they didn’t make debt with level headed reasoning. First, my mortgage is 15 years not 30. I meet two payments every month and will have it paid off very soon. My problem is not the bank, it is the County Appraisal District. It is currently costing me $250 monthly in taxes to live in my own home. Where does the money go: City and County employees and their exorbitant medical and retirement benefits. Too many of you buy into this bankster nonsense instead of looking at the problem which is more often than not, yourself, and always the taxing authorities. There is no expensive car in the garage, no boat and trailer in the driveway, no atv, and not much furniture in the living room. I keep my debts small, save all I can, and hope to reap the benefits. Credit is the greatest tool anyone will ever have as long as it is used wisely. Again, no banker, credit card company, or payday loan organization ever forced anyone to sign on the dotted line. Where is the delusion in that. Respectfully, it is in your mind and no where else. thanks

          • paloelogue

            I’m familiar with the theory that money is a pyramid scheme. But that does not matter. Each dollar gets used multiple times. In fact the term for how many times each year it changes hands is the velocity of money. So there’s more than enough money for you to pay interest one more time every first of the month.

            You may even find that same dollar bill coming back into your wallet. The fallacy is this: when a dollar circulates a hundred times you do not need one hundred dollars to perform the task. Just one will do.

        • wtfnow

          I got my first job in a diner when I was 14. By 18 I was working 2 jobs. I became a single mom because the father of my girls pissed away his paychecks and I was tired of working 2 jobs and going to college full time to support him. He didn’t pay child support. I worked my ass off until the day at age 42 when I could not get out of bed. I have early onset rheumatoid arthritis, bursitis, scoliosis, and many more. My hands don’t like to work most of the time, it is excruciatingly painful to walk or drive, and I rarely sleep as I am in too much pain. I do not take narcotic medication. My doctors will not let me work so while I wait for disability I receive $194 a month. This is my first time using financial assistance and I hate it. Do not paint all of us with the same brush. You lose credibility when you do so.

        • Jeremy

          Banks never technically robbed anyone, but deceitful and manipulative banking practices did lead to a great deal of economic instability. However, admittedly, many of the other arguments in this thread can’t be addressed with logic. Lucy, Paying interest is clearly a reasonable consequence of borrowing money. And of course money isn’t “real”; it’s an abstract concept representing resources owned and produced. Human civilization relies on many of these abstractions that aren’t “real” but are incredibly useful metrics – like time.

          Taxedn2poverty, you mention blame of the taxing authorities which makes sense, but you fail to take into account that the ultimate taxing authority paid huge sums of our money to corrupt bankers just a few years ago as a direct consequence of unethical banking practices.

          Finally, please don’t propagate the myth that people on welfare are frequently gaming the system. Welfare fraud isn’t terribly profitable or common. I’d wager that most people who “receive without working” aren’t on welfare; they’re corporate executives. I have no empirical evidence of people’s emotions about receiving government assistance, but people on welfare aren’t typically proud of it in my experience. A study posted by WSJ last year found that over half of all welfare expenditures go to househoulds in which the head works a steady job for less than a living wage. Of course, the corporations for which these individuals work post outrageous profits. The corporations are gaming the welfare system to a far greater degree than the individuals by underpaying employees and allowing the government to cover the difference.

      • nicole

        Many poor do profit from the system, and all of the elite profit from the system. I’ve been eligible for government benefits for many years of my life-but never took them. Vigilant use of Birth control and avoiding drugs and alcohol made it so I could survive (not flourish) on my minimum wage job.

        • taxedn2poverty

          @Nicole: If every woman out there had done as you did, use birth control and avoided the use of drugs and alcohol then we wouldn’t be in the condition we are in. Our schools would still be institutions of education not violent cauldrons where no child is safe. The National budget would be balanced, the welfare roles would be nonexistent, their would be no deadbeat dads, and we could all sleep comfortably with our doors unlocked. Thank you for taking care of your own problems, containing them in your own home, and not burdening the taxpayers. Blessings always.

        • Shari

          I spent years working minimum wage jobs, or less. 3.50$ as a waitress. Then I got a cdl. Anybody can do it!its not that hard. Went from making 12,000 a year to 54,000$, and in only two years. Come on out, drivers are solely needed. It’s a fun life.

    • James in NY

      I like it. I’ve said it B4, and it seems fitting to say again. If you beat a horse that pulls, eventually that horse either dies or turns on you. I’m glad some folks are getting pissed off. However,.. If you think voting will change anything you haven’t been paying attention.

      So how far are you willing to go to get your country back???

      The hour is late & no simple answer remains.

      • marty

        The hour is not late, if you look at the clock, you see it’ been broke for the last 70 yrs. lol

    • Bobbi

      First of all not every poor person is a Liberal, living off of government money, or having bastard children. I am very poor, have been all my life. Heck I’d have to double my income to be considered at poverty level. My Husband worked hard for the disability money he now receives because he can’t do it anymore, and I have a job of my own. I gave birth to 3 children, and all of them were in marriage. I despise the government and their control so much that I won’t go and apply for obamacare or any other state funded medical, and I would NEVER vote for a DEMOCRAT, or these rhino republicans, So for u to say piss on me because I am poor, and just assume (u know what that does, right) that because I’m poor I want the government to give me things in place of my freedom is just appalling. Maybe you should spend a little time being poor before you come off acting like you are somehow better for being not poor.

      • Taxedn2poverty

        If my tax dollar isn’t feeding your or your children then it is none of my business what you do. I wish you the very best and hope things get better for you and your husband. thanks

    • Berni

      Wow..did you forget anyone in that prejudiced and insensitive rant..be glad you were born into money.

      • Berni

        While you’re at it, watch Capitalism A Love Story and see who the banks have been ripping off since 1913 when they illegally formed the FED and began the biggest ponzi scheme ever perpetrated on the world and which is what Greece is fighting back against now oh uneducated one.

    • Disabled Vet

      I have a mental disability called PTSD. If you look at me or even know me you would not know. It is from my service in the army. There is a promise made to all of us who volunteer to serve. I give my all and the promise in return is that any harm caused to me mentally or physically while serving will be compensated for. If need be for the rest of my life. So please do not include me with the rest of your “poor”. I earned that benefit. And so did my fellow Americans who also served in the military. We earned it. Nobody gave us anything for free because of poor life choices. Big difference.

  6. Charles & Pamala

    Them Dam US Obama Government Family Clan Are Always At It. And I Feel That Someone Should Try To Stop The Government Famly Clam At That. And Because Like And Old Man Told Me Back In “1983” Was That One Day In The “Future” That We Where Heading Into What He Called “One World Government. And It’s Been 33 Years Now And I See It Coming My Friends. PS: I Was Once Blind But Now “I” See Good Day

    • Enter your name...

      You might see but, damn…what’s up with the grammar and all those capital letters…manic!

      • Anonymous

        How is the work as world wide web grammar police working out for you? I have just one question. What compels people like you to criticize complete strangers? Could you post your college diploma for all of us to see, so that we know you and you alone are eminently qualified to correct others?

    • James in NY

      The plan is in full blown warp speed. Run up the debt and bankrupt every country, collapse the whole damn thing. What better way to inherit the earth,..filled with slaves.

  7. B from CA

    Changing zoning laws to allow for apartments to be constructed in or near a residential neighborhood can adversely effect property values which is the reason these changes are generally rejected. I seriously doubt that Seattle is attempting to end the ability of citizens to own a home or to own land, at least not at the present time. Who knows what the ultimate goal of politicos might be? I Don’t. And I haven’t downloaded it because I’m not technically aware of how it’s done. If as I suspect, the writer of this article has sensationalized this otherwise mundane story, I wish you wouldn’t. Misrepresenting the facts is a form of lying that causes people to discredit those people who may have legitimate concerns. Now I don’t know you Mr. Richardson and I don’t know your real intentions. Could be you’re reporting this apparent falsehood in order to facilitate the enactment of the very laws you purport to abhor. Like I said I don’t know. Could you be a little more specific. I would appreciate the exact wording of the proposed new zoning law that allegedly takes away the people’s right to own private property. That will be the day THE SHIT HITS THE and so on and so forth

  8. Anyone who cannot see we, as a nation, have under the mantra of change, let these progressives, in the name
    Of fairness,fix the system so NO One will own property
    Other than the government crooks who run things and make the more and more ridiculous laws that govern us but not them.
    It is any wonder when “yes we can” is played backwards it says “thank you Satan”
    We are as approaching the one world centrAlized
    Government that will be ultimate tyranny and No one
    Will be able to buy or sell without the implant
    That makes you their slave.
    They hate freedom and peace. They want us to serve them
    As they eTernal steak, lobster and go on monthly
    Vacations! Sound familiar???

  9. ImaJWalker

    As long as the people ‘allow’ it.. it will continue. There are two Constitutions in the USA and they are not following the one you think (search it).
    Once you understand that, you will know that they all (Senate, Congress, President etc) WORK for the U.N. which doesn’t recognize ‘humanity.’ Only the people can take back what is truly theirs.
    Peace / Safety!

  10. Grim

    The cold hard fact is, that the only way to stop a bunch of authoritarians, is to kill them. They are members of the 10% or so of the population who are the psychopaths/sociopaths and are responsible throughout history, for causing the vast majority of human injustice, suffering and death. Like a cancer, they must be eliminated or they will eventually destroy the host.

  11. km

    The masses better start saying NO to all of this control grid madness! The FED and other gov. entities only have as much power as the people allow! But as always the entitlement crowd will ruin any real progress. I guess that’s why they were allowed to multiply, as to divide and conquer!

  12. bill salmon

    it is ever saddening to see sheep bleat. if any of you bother to actually read the draft letter and proposal, you will see that the above post by offgrid is at best a gross misinterpretation, at worst an intentional lie. it is basically a suggestion to change zoning laws, and allow more subsides for MORE home ownership. when you mindlessly bleat on without bothering to look, you are led to slaughter, like all ignorant sheep. if you do bother to check on facts, more power to you. THAT is the only way to be a good citizen. not by spreading rumors and lies.

    • Scott

      Define “subsidies”.

  13. RJ

    When I was growing up in the 60’s, Seattle had a vibrant black neighborhood where they owned their own homes and had pride in those homes. They were well maintained and taken care of. Within 20 years the kids couldn’t hold on to those homes and were pushed into public housing. They pulled those houses down and built 3 big, tall apartment buildings that within a few years became so unlivable and full of crime that they had to be torn down and another design built.Blacks should remember that up to the late 60’s the best way they could live on their own terms was when they owned their own land and homes. The problem is how to make that affordable for everyone without becoming Socialists.

    • Ken M

      They are doing the same thing in New Jersey.

    • hunkerdown

      talk’n to RJ: I don’t know how many birthdays you have, but when I was a teenager in the 60’s there were many vibrant black neighborhoods in every city in America. They died the death of poverty once President Lyndon Baine Johnson started his National Welfare Program which he called America’s Great Leap Forward. The Great Leap Forward was LBJ’s self described war on poverty. We lost the war on poverty miserably. The sad squalid results of his policies are now on every street of every city in America. And it is not going away, now or ever. It is a permanent part of the national landscape!

      • hunkerdown

        Correction on my comment: The Great Leap Forward was Moa’s plan for China. LBJ’s plan for America was “The Great American Society”. Sorry, little problem with geography there folks, but the result was the same:Failure

  14. ddrake

    Hang every NAZI. Begin with the Mayor of Seattle.

  15. European American

    And how many of you knew that Seattle was chosen, back 1992-Kyoto Protocol in Rio, as one of The Model Cities for Agenda 21?

    • Susan Thurston

      Will have to research Agenda 21 .

      Seattle will be washed away in the next earth quake tsunami . Along with much of the west coast .

      Agenda 21 will have to chose a city further inland .

  16. cteve

    Agenda 21 onyone?

  17. Ken M

    The only way to confront this is armed confrontation.The time is now because they will not hesitate to kill you if you resist.

  18. Steve

    Seattle is full out communist. I can’t wait until that whole Pacific Northwest gets wiped out in a massive earthquake(s) and tsunami.

  19. Bill

    Which demon rats in there Bolshevik party are going to rein in this A-Hole of a lunatic mayor,and who will bring the first lawsuit against the city, this city needs to be sued for 100 billion dollars and sent into poverty status. the mayor is totally incompetent and a blathering FOOL and he should be put in a straight jacket.

  20. mrchrisgdotcom

    I guess nobody thought about that if no one owns a home or land, the city will not get property taxes!

  21. david

    This is an example of why the states with government dominated by liberals in a few big cities need to be abandoned – AND why those of you in states that have not yet fallen into this condition, need to amend your state constitutions to prohibit your states from spending any $$ for anything other than goods/services rendered. “If you give them freebies, they will come” – and then demand everything else.

  22. Jay

    Reminds me very much of something Communist Soviet Union did, and the reasons Seattle is using to justify their misguided ideal… are the exact same reasons the USSR used to justify their abolishing private property ownership.

  23. Beano..

    What they are touting is an un-BIBLICAL principle that will bring more trouble.
    They removed God and prayers awhile back and things jut get WORSE.
    Do not listen to them. If they want to do it let them do it in their own country not yours!
    You can then observe the disaster and not be in it!

  24. Aron

    I am a single family home owner in Seattle on a nice sized lot. Most of the comments here are quite ridiculous. This is a very, very simple matter of supply and demand. Seattle is bounded by the Puget Sound on the west and Lake Washington on the east. There is NOWHERE to go for expansion. How would any of you propose to solve the problem of increasing population? There is nowhere to build! The ONLY choice is to tear down single family lots and replace them with condos, apartments, and townhouses. I don’t like it, but it’s reality.

    • BlameTheFed

      Why is the population increasing? Domestic birth rates are slightly below replacement level. The only reason we have increasing population is uncontrolled, illegal immigration. Agenda 21 is the plan. They will start with Seattle because it is landlocked and they can easily fool dupes like you into believing “higher density” is needed. When are YOU going to move into a high-rise slum, sell your car, start walking everywhere and taking public transit? I can’t wait until they start rationing your water and electricity with “smart meters” and making you compost all of your garbage. Of course, firearms will be confiscated for your own protection. You’ll be a sitting duck during a terrorist attack, EMP, or bird flu pandemic. Enjoy being monitored and controlled 24/7. Good luck!

    • jennelea

      They do not need to expand. What is wrong with holding the present status. Allow people to buy homes currently for sale only. The real reason is because property is so expensive, people know they can make a ton more dough by selling their single family home to build apartments and low cost housing. Right now they can’t because their area is zoned for single family housing. Well There is a REASON for that. DS.

  25. John

    time to lock and load.

  26. southerner

    Another way for white wealth built up since the founding of the country to be strip mined. Stealing money has always been easier than working for it.

  27. dan

    those that propose and implement such ‘rubbish’ need to be removed from society…and placed in a single person CELL…..as a reward for their concept of ” eliminating every family living in their own home on a 5,000 square foot lot”…..imho

  28. BTRUTH

    Besides the fact that this is AGENDA 21, NWO fascism. This nation is a captured & occupied corporation, that’s about to be annihilated, under God’s Judgment… So all of this is a moot point! Shalom

  29. Roberto Mazz

    JP’s statement, which AL correctly says”was lifted right out of Agenda 21, is what is going on. It’s all about “sustainable”, which is really not sustainable for anyone except the 1%, who of course are the ones pouring money into programs that change perception (manipulate the way people think more accurately describes it). This is not a new program. The ones who consider themselves “elite” have been working on bringing this to fruition for a very long, long time.
    First of all, as one of the commentators mentions, in the 60s the Blacks lived very well in single family homes. They had jobs. As the 1% deliberately outsourced jobs overseas so they could increase their profit margins, things began to fall apart in America. Was this deliberate?

    Of course! The elite could not produce social change without creating chaos.
    The also began seeding stories in the bought and paid for press that were deliberately divisive. Look at the numerous unkind insults hurled back and forth in these comments. The real target is not each other. It is the 1% and their totally controlled propaganda machine – the media. One commentator even thanked the banks for screwing him and considered it just. Obviously he does not realize that the bank did not loan him money from their existing funds. They made an entry into the book based on the value of his signature alone. And then charged him interest on money they created out of thin air. It’s called Babylon Banking Magik. And it is the secret to how the bankers and big corporations have taken over the world’s elected representatives country by country through their IMF, BIS and elite dreamed up and financed U.N.

    Communism was bought and paid for by the international bankers, the same way Hitler and Mussolini were financed by the same people. All wars are banker’s wars. They loan money to both sides, and if there are no wars, they stir up enmity between people through false flags, and “lone shooters” of which there have been far, far too many.

    Just as Rockefeller took over the medical schools and directed the emphasis toward drugs many years ago, the 1% has taken over the curriculum and the philosophy of city and county planning schools across the nation so they have all been indoctrinated with the same double speak, meaning it all sounds good, but in actual practice it is no more than warmed over communism and fascism, which were both failed projects. The planner and many of the public
    officeholders are mostly dupes or paid for stooges.

    So please voice your opinion to those people and don’t let them shove their failed philosophies down your throat with rules and regulations that are NOT laws. Go to their planning meetings and just say, “NO”!
    May we all be blessed with understanding, wisdom and compassion.

  30. Emmaline Greensward

    Shades of what happened in Kelo, Connecticut.

    Can’t wait for the lawsuits if the city even tries to confiscate land or change the zoning to this degree. You’d think that municipal management would know better.

    Then again, they will probably try, because the brain-dead mayor also seems determined to give interest-free mortgages to Muslims, as well.

  31. Malakie

    I see Seattle becoming the next Detroit… a ghost town/city.

  32. This definitely smells like an effort to hasten the taking of our properties for that U.N. Agenda 21 effort. Locally, there’s also a move afoot to make the area I live into a National Monument, so just another way to take people’s properties and remove local sovereignty.

  33. John

    Huh? Isn’t this the “Russian” way to make your country fail, and didn’t it fail in Russia several times and ways? Don’t we learn from others mistakes and stupidity? Having lived in Washington State,
    I found the leadership lacking in every way that involved common sense, and Seattle is no exception.

  34. Moman

    My ex post facto, and many NATO rounds say one word resoundingly… NO.

  35. Jeff Brodhead

    Expel the Marxists! Drop kick ’em to China.

  36. cindyl52

    Conservatives, get out of Seattle while you can!

  37. Partsdude65

    How about making your family a LLC or something similar to obtain the land? Is that a possibility to skirt the law? The liberals always seem to find a way to do an end run,so why not sane people?

  38. Chris

    Do you think you really own your land anb home. Let me give you a list of those that can take it away from you when they feel like it.
    1 government-no reason given. They just do it.
    2 states-if you owe money or they want to put a sidewalk or freeway.
    3 cities-when they feel like it.
    4 scools-if you do not pay taxes they will take it away.
    5 home owners association (hoa)-if do not pay the membership fee or do something that they do not like, they can take it away.
    So over all you do not really own any land you just rent the land from different enities.

  39. spatin

    This is not going to end well. Eventually, the communists in Seattle will cross the line and some patriot will respond in kind. Maybe soon.

  40. What is this agenda 21?? I never heard of it, but you all seem to know a lot about it. I’ll try to find it on the internet but still would like an explanation. Thanks.

    • Al

      UN Agenda 21 is quoted by JP on this blog. It is an attempt by the UN to override US Sovereignty through treaties made at the UN (of which we are members). Agenda 21 is, sad to say, a direct application of the Communist Nanifesto, as stated by Karl Marx. Unlike the other members of the UN, however, we were established as a nation Of the People, By the People, and For the People; with a Constitution based on the principles of CHRISTIANITY. We should not even be associated with them, but here we are swallowing their tripe, hook line and sinker. God help us all and deliver us from this madness.

  41. William

    So are the politicians and their rich supporters going to have to give up their mansions and big yards, too?

  42. B from CA

    Call it the Communist Agenda to destroy America by the year 2021 and subjugate the United States under the authority and power of the United Nations

    I realize that spelling it out is a little more time consuming. It would be more effective.

  43. reballan

    @taxedn2……you are so deep into the debt mud, you can’t even see the light of day! Mortgage, car payment….a little tiny car so you can get your little tiny self to your little tiny job so you can live your little tiny life, forever enslaved and chained to your debt! You are nothing more than a caged canary….born into captivity and not even knowing you are a captive and happy for it! I guess ignorance truly is bliss! And as to the comments about the poor…..there is a small majority of welfare recipients that take advantage of the system. How many senators and congressmen take advantage of their positions? Welfare programs only use 17% of the U.S. budget…..the war machine uses about 70%! Many of the poor today DO WORK! But wages are so low, it is impossible to survive! Many poor today were not always poor, but thru no fault if their own, have lost everything because of our corrupt gubmint policies! It is also convenient for a MAN to criticize women for having kids and needing public assistance. First, men are fortunate that they don’t get pregnant and then get left by their partners high and dry without support for all of the children they have so recklessly spawned because some damn woman didn’t take her birth control or, often as not, the method failed! Men are also fortunate that their own reckless and irresponsible actions have been reconciled by a damn woman who stayed with her children and chose to feed, clothe and house them! Damn those women for doing whatever they need to do to survive! Quit trying to make every poor person out to be a useless, druggie out to use the system! It absolves you from having to have a charitable bone in your body and excuses the gubmint for shifting blame and hatred to the victim!! You just don’t get “it”….. You are clueless, and the more you blabber on, the more ignorant you sound!

  44. reballan

    Fancy words for Agenda 21, and now the new and improved Agenda 2030! Pank and stack, communism at best, and total control of everything! The big “feminism” push is also part of the agenda to divide and conquer.more “programmes”, laws, rules, legislation = enslavement! What no one gets is that the noose will only get tighter…..eventually it kills you! That, my friend, is also a huge component of Agenda 21/2030……but its only for you own good! Bwahhaahaha!

  45. Peter

    Should the mayor and any other city officials who support this terrorism, be hunted down and executed, for crimes against humanity ?
    Sic Semper Tyrannis !

  46. kathy

    Out of curiosity, If the state takes the land and I’m just a renter, does that mean if it floods, if the sewer pipes break, if the lawn needs care, if the driveway needs shoveling, the trees need pruning, the anything, the city comes in and does this? without me paying property taxes? with rent control, the rents will be cheap so that tax base will decrease. with the 8 thousand dollar pay increase I just got for no property taxes, I can get my kid into a private school, which will be important since it’s property taxes that pay for public schools. And no maintenance, well, there’s another few thousand dollars. good luck Seattle, first you drive out the businesses, then you’ll drive out the house buyers because they’ll not want to live in shanty towns, what’s left? Wait for it… the people that are left are all the ones who want everything for free, which takes a lot of money. good luck with that.

  47. jennelea

    yep! this what they have done in Europe for years. In the city of Nice, France, there is only one single family home remaining. So “European!” And they still have people begging on their streets! And even before the Syrians began crowing in. Communist garbage! Jealous people! This state is a joke!

  48. marbee

    Can you say Agenda 21? Bill Clinton began this as “soft policy” that is now coming to fruition. The America we knew and loved is going, going, ……

  49. tom

    WTF, people. You’re grossly overreacting. This isn’t a ban. This is opening up what was once ONLY single family zoning to a mix of single family and low density multi-family.

    Hey, I live here. I love our quiet neighborhood and hate that we’re going to have a 2 or 3 family building in the lot next to us. I’m totally NIMBY.

    This has nothing to do “the man” taking away your rights. If you don’t like it, move to the country.

    • sparkleplenty27s

      YOU ARE QUITE SIMPLY WRONG AND NAIVE – study Agenda 21 and learn what is really going on – WA and OR are poster states for Agenda 21 –

  50. glenn mettlen

    The answer to all is Jesus, He is coming soon to judge the whole world and you are with Him or your not. Heaven or hell.

  51. sparkleplenty27s

    THIS IS AGENDA 21 (NOW CALLED AGENDA 2030) And this is all about loss of US sovereignty (national and states), in favor of UN domination – study Agenda 21 and you will see exactly this scenario, which determines single family housing must end in favor of multi-use inner city buildings, while also creating so many problems for those in the suburbs it is to drive people to inner cities; and then there is rural land use and you can see all over the country efforts to drive people off rural land. And if you live anywhere near water of any source or kind (even little streams) – you will find the fed knocking at your door and making your land use illegal! BEWARE, THE UN, THE ILLUMINATI AND THE LIBERAL LOONS IN DC ARE COMING TO A TOWN NEAR YOU, IF NOT YOUR BACKYARD!

  52. Milo Moran

    It’s really quite simple, everyone with a net value of 200K$ and up must relinquish their land and allow the municipalities to build Apartment buildings and sixplexes and when all of that is done and all the “poor people are moved in then the rest of the citizens can consider giving up their home and land. Where the dickens do some of the Washington State politicians come from, Mars? This is America don’t like the system? Get out, and leave citizens unmolested.

  53. Milo Moran

    You have a rag tag group of Politically Correct don’t have two nickels to rub together, probably do not work, are on the dole, trying to make rules for those who struggle to earn a living and make a better life for their families doing what we are entitled to do under the Constitution and that is……..drum roll……to have “Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness” we do not need social derelicts muddying the waters of that tenet of the Constitution. Go back to King George you idiots.

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