Survival Item – Pellet Guns

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Most people wouldn’t think of a BB gun or a pellet gun as a survival item, but lately a number or people have emailed us asking about adding one to their supplies. While it wouldn’t be my first option, there are some reasons you may want to consider adding one to your survival stockpile.

BB Gun laying on the ground

Technology has made them stronger and more reliable

In terms of technology, design and manufacturing, BB guns have come a long way over the last decade. Today’s BB guns are not the BB guns of your youth, and many of them are actually very reliable and very powerful. Pellet guns take things up a notch, and are great for plinkers or hunting small game.

  • They are both quite capable of taking small game like birds, rodents, squirrels and small rabbits.
  • If you want to increase your odds, look for a pellet gun with a high velocity of at least 700 FPS in a .22 cal, or 950 FPS in a .177 cal.
  • A good scope can increase accuracy, and help you spot smaller game.

They are dirt cheap

With the recent rise in ammo prices, and a sudden shortage of rimfire ammunition, a lot of people are looking for cheaper alternatives. For training purposes, a BB gun might not be a bad alternative for speed or defensive drills. It’s probably not going to make you a better shooter, but it can be used to simulate some self-defense situations, and sure is a lot cheaper than almost anything else you can shoot.

  • A 500 ct. box of pellets is going to cost you around 10 bucks, and BBs are going to be even cheaper at $10 for around 6,000.
  • A decent BB or Pellet gun, suitable for hunting small game, can be found for under $200

A couple more reasons to consider adding a BB or Pellet gun to your survival stockpiles

  • They are legal to carry in most areas of the country.
  • They are quite and do not attract as much attention, making it easier to take out multiple small animals when hunting.
  • Believe it or not, during the Vietnam war soldiers were trained with Daisy model 99 BB guns to practice instinctive shooting techniques.They can be a great way to practice target focused shooting and quick kill techniques.
  • They are just plain fun, and can be a great way to introduce children to firearms.

What kind of Pellet or BB Gun is best for survival?

If you’re buying one for survival purposes, I would stay away from anything that needs CO2 or compressed air to fire. During a survival situation these cartridges are going to be hard to come by, making your rifle completely useless once you run out of compressed air. Instead look for a spring piston or lever action rifle; these allow you to build up air pressure by simply cocking a lever.

  • Single pump air rifles only require one pump to obtain maximum power. The are quick, easy to use and the best option when trying to quietly take a number of small animals.
  • Multi-Pump air rifles are another good option that allows you to control the amount of power you’re shooting with. They are typically less expensive but they are not as stealthy when trying to hunt.

Of course if you’re looking to take things to the next level, I highly recommend checking out a Ruger 10/22. It’s one of our favorite .22LR Rifles on the market.

Some BB Guns and Ammo that we like:

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  1. Manny Toledo says:

    that is a good thing to carry for hunting small game

  2. Kesten says:

    It’s good to keep one of these around.

  3. Big T says:

    Very bad idea, and I am simply shaking my head in disbelief. I have hunted small game extensively, and only an expert would try hunting with a pellet gun. It lacks killing power for squirrels and rabbits, and have fun getting close enough to kill any animal with it. You are far better with a manual action .22, which has plenty of killing power and range. Ammo is cheap and you can therefore afford to practice and get the accuaracy skills necessary to hunt with a .22. A 410 shotgun might be better for those with poor skills; can still take small game, but slugs provide better protection against predators-or people.

    • jlowski214 says:

      you are a poor shot if you cat kill a squirrel with a pellet gun.

    • Adam says:

      My pellet rifle will shoot upwards of 1,250 fps. I’ve taken down a few rabbits with it no problem. It doesn’t require co2 and its very accurate up to 100yds. The only downside is its a little slow to reload. For shooting small game, I think the pellet rifle is indespensible.

    • sip says:

      Big T, you must not be a good shot, I’ve been back packing for 30+ years now. I’ll always carried my crossman 1377 and never went without eating and never wornned an aminal to wonder off to die. Rabbit, squriel, dove, or quail all are one shot one kill. Try bushing up on your stocking skills.

    • westoftherockies says:

      you’re crazy if you think a pellet gun can’t take out small game, easily can, i’ve killed lots of critters with a bb gun when i was a kid, squirrels/birds etc. you’re not making sense. a pellet rifle is plenty powerful and can easily kill small game, without any problem.

    • Greg says:

      Big T you haven’t got clue what your are talking about. You must be thinking about a Daisy Red Ryder BB gun LOL. I have a Diana 34 .177 and Diana 350 magnum .22 air rifle. Both easily take out game up to Jack Rabbit size at ranges up to 50 yards and beyond. Muzzle velocity respectively is 1000fps and around 890 fps for the .22. With these new Gamo steel point pellets the .22 will easiliy stop a man with a head shot. Airgun pellets are extremely cheap and light weight. When it’s shtf time you won’t be out in the woods stalking deer. You will be after the most abundant food source namely small game. When it’s Zombie time you also don’t want to be making a lot of noise with a firearm. I have various weapons including a crossbow. Nothing comes close to a good air rifle for food and a revolver for Zombies (auto clip springs weaken). PS Crossbows and modern bows are next to useless in a survival situation. You have to own one to appreciate what I mean. Slingshots? depends what you mean by survival. A few days maybe then what. Rubber has short shelf life and slingshots are not very accurate. How you going to replace the rubber? Go to Walmart? A good springer airgun (note good) will last a lifetime if you treat it right.

      • sid says:

        I wonder if a pellet can go all the way through a squirrel – since I plan on killing the one in my attic with my new BB gun (410 FPS). Any thoughts?

        • JR says:

          @ sid. I would recommend upgrading to a pellet gun of at least 1,000 fps. From personal experience a even a 600 fps bb gun will not work on squirrels (thick skin). I would suggest getting the gammo hornet. It cost me under $100 and shoots lead pellets at 1000 fps, or alloy pellets at 1200 fps(BBs will ruin the riffling).

          • Robert Lengyel says:

            I beg to differ i killed a gray squirrel with a crossman 760 pumpmaster 625fps last year

    • Twig says:

      Big T,Type in big bore pellet guns. They can take out big game in one shot at 100 yards. If you like them I would recommend a quakenbush airgun, or a .45 cal Sam Yang airgun.

    • Justin says:

      Idk what you are talking about when you say it lacks killing power. I had a Remington 1200 .177 break barrel and I took out a turkey, no problem. Imagine if you had one chambered in .22 or .25, with heavier pellets the knockdown power would be more than enough.

    • bob says:

      I guess im an expert because if killed like 20 squirreles with a pellet gun and have killed only one with a firearm

    • mike says:

      read this comment, went into my back yard and killed 2 birds and 1 rabbit in less than a half hour 4 shots total so ya they defiantly can kill small game Gamo Silent Stalker .22 with stock setup

    • Big T I can tell you wrote this in 2010 because it is impossible to find .22 shells now in November of 2013. My Benjamin Trail Nitro Piston break barrel.22 caliber pellet gun has plenty of knock down power for a squirrel or rabbit at thirty yards. If you can’t get within thirty yards of an animal you aren’t much of a hunter. Even in the city there are plenty of squirrels in the parks, etc. and the pellet gun is so quiet that nobody will even know you are harvesting squirrels. I wouldn’t be without one when the SHTF. I purchased 4,000 14.3 grain .22 caliber pellets for around $50. On today’s market that many.22 long rifle shells would cost you $560 if you can find them.

    • Bearhunter9989 says:

      you obviously know nothing at all about these modern air rifles buddy

      • Bearhunter9989 says:

        Benjamin .357 Rogue. That’s all I have to say to the guy who doesn’t believe

        • Gil says:

          That guns a beast! I want 1! And that new .30 FX BobCat!!

    • Art says:

      I have killed a rabbit @ 10yrds + with a crosman pumpmaster classic .177. I have a stoeger model 10 .177 and a benjamin np xl 1100 .22 and I drive pellets through a 1/4 plywood and lodge in the wood behind the target @ 40yrds +.

    • Bmsmith says:

      I have to agree with the others: you must not be familiar with the modern 22 cal air rifle. At anywhere from 910-1750 fps, a .22 air rifle firing hollow point ammo will easily dispatch anything from game birds to small/medium game. When you combine a sub-500 price tag with ammo that averages a cent per shot, the air rifle is a perfect “extra” to any gun locker.

    • john says:

      I agree if you cant kill a squirrel with a pellet gun that pretty pathetic

    • Chris says:

      I killed a coyote in 1 shot with a benjamin discovery .22… It was attacking my chickens that were outside. It was 49 lbs and dropped on the spot from a head shot

    • Urban Airgunner says:

      Air guns have long been used for killing. with the high cost of ammo and the fact that you cant find it air guns make sense. I have been hunting small game and large. .25 cal has 100 foot pounds of energy and can kill deer and pigs at 60 or 70 yards. My gun is fully suppressed. if you do your home work you’ll find a hole new world with adult airguns.

      • Gil says:

        Yes Sir!

    • sheckley says:

      I hunt squirrels almost every day with a pellet gun, it is a break barrel, and not a pump, but i do recommend one in suburban areas! it is quiet enough to not disturb the neighbors and 8 out of 10 times kills a squirrel with the first shot.

  4. Joe M. says:

    Slingshot, slingshot, slingshot. replenishable ammo, doesn’t need CO2.

    • Hokanut says:

      I live in a rabbit infested desert area with a nazi like HOA who will harras and fine any home owner with bare(rabbit eaten)spots on the lawn and I had to reply to the comment regarding the lack of power in a pellet gun to take small game. I love wild life at my front door but the rabbits have had to be delt with. The .22 single stroke Remington(NPSS)pellet gun I’ve used to dispatch several of these lawn eating mouraders at 25-30 ft.tears right through them and drops them in their track. More then enough power to humainly dispatch these buggers. Then they’re placed at the back fence line where the coyotes remove them for me. Just sayin.

      • william says:

        why put them on the fence for coyote’s?, if you get more than you can eat, then mabe but eat them wabbits. they are very tasty

    • Sharpie says:

      I like slingshots, but I’m better with a rifle.

      You can reuse pellets and BBs in my experience.

      And none of my pellet guns use CO2 canisters.

      • ve says:

        you can’t reuse bbs or pellets. they will ruin your gun if you even manage to load them.

  5. Numm says:

    I think a BB/Pellet gun is a must have for any survival kit. Big T sais only an expert would try hunting with on but when it comes down to it if you need food this is the way to go. Not only can you take down small game but if you miss your first, second, third, or fourth shot it is silent enough to keep your prey close by. My Crosman 2100 goes for around $60 and shoots 755 fps with standard .177 cal BB’s and 725 fps with pellets, thats close enough to compaire to a lot of .22 cal long rifles out there which average 800 to 900 fps, and to top it off my BB gun is just as accurate as any small cal. rifle. And as Joe is implying I do not need Co2 for my gun it is pump action and a sling shot is not accurate at all unless you have enough experience to even come close to what you are shooting for.

    • John says:

      The problem with BB guns is they are notoriously cheap crap and won’t take a beating out bush for long. You want a German made spring air rifle. Weirach, Diana, Theoben etc.
      I’m having trouble with the concept of CO2 and survival weapon…. LMAO

  6. joe c says:

    i think a pellet gun is a great idea.im not a expert by any means but i know for a fact you can take squirls,rabit,birds,rats,and coon with a .22 small calliber pellet gun because ive done it up to 35yrds easily and 50yrds is a little harder but definitly possible even at a hundred yards with a 1000fps rifle and a .22 pellet you can put down medium game.a 900fps gun using a 17gram pellet produces 30.5 ft.ponds of energy from the muzzle more than enough to penetrate skin and bones. not only that but pellet guns are very accurate and have low to no recoil. infact a moderatly priced pellet gun can out perform a compitition .22 centerfire rifle with in a 100yrds if put into the right hands.i can put 10 shots in a dime sized group from 35yrds away.also if you like big game i used to have a .50 calliber air gun that could take a 130lb buck look on youtube for people tacking wild boar and even a 2000lb buffalo with airguns. and if you want to know more about airguns try pyramydair.com or the yellow airgun forums.

    • ve says:

      i agree with that. if you want to be precise, a good air rifle is the way to go. pump rifles are very quiet, and if you need something stronger, a gas ram is the way to go.

      if you need more stoping power than that, a bow/crossbow is the way to go, but you need much experience to hit with a bow and have to get close up. 10m recommended. the advantage there is, they prey wont know what hit them until it has bled out, which takes about 2 to 3 seconds depending on size. i’ve seen deer that keeps grazing and then drops dead.

  7. Hank says:

    I am afraid BigT just has not given today’s air guns, which are worlds apart from the Daisy Red Ryders of our youth, a fair chance. Serious small-game hunting can be done with a growing number of offerings from Gamo, for instance. Their Whisper line has guns capable of 1,200 fps velocity, coupled with an integral sound-dampening muzzle, which reduces the “crack” produced by projectiles travelling faster than the speed of sound, by up to 52%. I have used one of these rifles for pest/vermin control at a large apartment community where I work and have never had one complaint of being “too loud”.

  8. Goodwin says:

    I have the Henry U.S. Survival for a small game rifle. Its a semi-auto .22 rifle that can be easily taken down and stored in the stock. The stock holds 2 mags, receiver and barrel. It’s water proof, floats, and all the metal components are teflon coated for weather resistance. It costs well less than $300, ammo is cheap and light, and the rifle weighs 2 pounds. Much more practical than an air rifle.

    • westoftherockies says:

      the henry is nice, but still not as practical as a pellet rifle, you can buy like 10,000 pellets for a few bucks and so you’ll never run out and with a pump pellet rifle, you don’t even need co2, and you can hunt all the birds and squirrels etc you need in order to feed yourself.

    • william says:

      a 22 is good and everyone should own at least one. but a pellet gun is a very necassary item if money is hard to come by. a lot of pellets can be bought for little money. use the pellets for small game in a survival situation and save the 22 for bigger game. don’t waste 22lr on small game when you could be using pellets.

  9. joe c says:

    That is a neat gun i think i will pick one up to play with. hope i can find one for around a hundred or so. for “SURVIVAL” i agree this is much more practical. still love my airguns for hunting though…lol.

  10. Goodwin says:

    Yeah Joe, its great. It’ll fit in a backpack or large tool box. Check it out you’ll probably like it!

  11. Jorge says:

    talking about pellet guns, yes you can hunt small animals like rats,rabbits,birds when i was 12 years old my dad bought me a daisy 880 pump air rifle that uses BBs and pellets.With BBs wouldnt do much damage, but with pointy pellets it was real good. now i use a winchester 1000X pellet rifle .177 cal. with a scope that goes at 1000 fps.

  12. Dave says:

    By the time you found and outfitted completely one of those ultra super-duper pellet rifles that can take ‘coons at up to 100 yards, you could have bought a reasonably tricked-out Ruger .22 fitted with nice optics and a thousand rounds and still be money ahead. Good lord, gear queers. LOL. I swear.

    • josh says:

      dude i was totally right there with you, right up until last week, my best friend lives in a highly residential and historic neighborhood and he’s got one hell of a squirrel problem. everyone around him has dogs so poison is a no go, and try explaining to a police officer that your were only shooting squirrels with your 22. so i bought him a ruger blackhawk air rifle, first blood was taken just after sight in. you can’t buy a tricked out ruger 1022 with optics and a thousand rounds for 100 bucks. sorry, you just can’t. you can however buy a plethora of gamo, stoger, and ruger last years air guns complete with a decent 4x scope on clearance right now for that much or less and a tin of 750 hollow point pellets for 7 bucks. I’ve bought 3 more air rifles since then and shot 1000s of rounds, they’re fun, legal in the city, and deadly on squirrels.

  13. Robin says:

    If I recall correctly Louis and Clark carried a Air rifle with them on their trip.

    • Ben says:

      I don’t think you are recalling correctly…. The first gun even somewhat related to the airgun was invented in the 1880s….

      • Hillbilly says:

        Girandoni Air Rifle in .46 caliber is what Lewis and Clark took with them. This rifle was also in service by the Austrian Army from 1780 until 1815. It had an effective range of 100 yds.

  14. j.r. guerra in s. tx. says:

    Also remember that if we are talking about ‘survival’ and not sport hunting, ANY source of protein adds flavor to the pot. Plenty of ‘tweety birds’ around for that overhead – add that to your canteen cup for about as easy a protein source there is.

    Do agree that pellet rifles (at least pneumatics) should have their small game animal range limited – maybe 30 yards maximum. I killed a rabbit with my old 70’s vintage Daisy 880 when I was a teenager, but it was not a clean kill, it took several shots to make it dead.

    You can go with springer, but those are pretty heavy. CO2 are lighter, but then you have powerlet availability and pressure issues with temperatures. To my mind, the Benjamin 397 or 392 makes a lot of sense, the Williams aperture receiver sight of great help.

    JMO.

    • john says:

      when i was younger I killed a possum with a pellet rifle one shot

  15. rory ryan says:

    i found that even small squirrels when shot with a bb gun fail to die on the spot and go unfound. not something i would prioritze.

    • mike says:

      i agree small squirrels dont die from bb guns unless u hit vital organ but pellet guns kill.gamo big cat crossman phantom 1000

  16. Jim says:

    In my opinion planning to have only a .22Lr as your survival firearm is a bad idea.
    Now I love the .22 and believe it is an essential part of a TEOTWAWKI kit.
    If you can choose only one; a shotgun makes the most sense from a versatility standpoint. You can kill everything from mice to bears with a shotgun!
    That being said; a powerful accurate pellet gun would be handy to have when the lights go out. .
    22Lr may become hard to get your hands on, the noise could draw unwanted attention, and you can’t reload .22lr
    The Air Rifle gets its power from you, you may be able to make ammo, it is real easy to store a lot of ammo, less noise to bring attention to yourself and they can be very effective on small animals. We are not talking about a daisy red rider. But a real adult air gun. Big 5 always have them on sale. For me it’s kind of a toss up between this and a Mosin.

  17. Mick says:

    You cant compare a pellet gun to a .22 LR A 22.lr has around 140 ft-lbs of knockdown power A .25 pellet rifle has about 20 ft-lbs and we are talking a webley at 600 fps .Yes you can kill small game with one but dont compare on the FPS a .22 is a 40 gr a .177 standard pellet is about 7.5 grain . and gets about 3 to 6 ft-lbs.

    • Bearhunter9989 says:

      Benjamin .25 caliber averages 40 FPE and modified can get up 60+ Very accurate also. and you can customize them really nicely. Mine looks like an assault rifle and will take down coyote and bobcat. I haven’t done it yet but someone on you tube has.

  18. CRW says:

    I have a Gamo and have killed small game with it. The proper air rifle not BB-gun could be a valuable tool in a survival situation. By the way I also own a Smith and Wesson MP-1522 and it is a sweet gun but I cant bust it off with the neighbors around.

  19. htwt says:

    Big T:

    You’re uninformed…I’ve been taking rabbits, squirrels and other small game for over 20 years with a high-powered break-barrel pellet rifle, in .177.

    And as far as ‘humane’ is concerned, when I or my family is hungry, if I slow any animal down enough to catch it, kill it and eat it, I could care less whether or not it lived for a minute or two past the initial wound…

    On a side note: it’s funny how the ‘humane’ argument doesn’t carry over into snares, which strangle an animal to death…oh yeah…I use those too…

    Cheers!

  20. Flyer91 says:

    Absolutely a modern high velocity pump, break barrel or PCP) (preferably nitrogen piston, or PCP with the hand pump accessory) pellet rifle is ‘much’ better than a powder rifle for ‘true’ survival situation …. assuming it’s prolonged, and not just something to get you through for a few days/week or so.
    You won’t run out of ammo in a prolonged survival situation with an AG because you can shoot things that ‘will’ provide some sort of food ….. even if it’s not the best ammo …… like your own whittled down hard wood pellets and etc.
    If you are talking about going pack-packing and haven’t done the proper things to let folks know where you are going to be, or you are flying the bush in the great white north or Alaska and have a propensity to land unexpectedly, then a PG will probably be the better choice, but ….. if talking about ‘basic’ survival ‘food hunting’ for a prolonged, unexpected emergency situation, like the collapse of modern western society ….. then a modern air pellet gun will still be providing you food when an empty powder gun is nothing more than an ineffective club.
    So ……. basically blow off the .22 survival rifles, either get a good .223/5.56mm or 308/7.62mm caliber PG (the worlds most popular ammo calibers) to both protect yourself and more rarely …. to shoot large game ……. ‘and’ a good (1000FPS) pellet rifle to save the big gun for better use.
    If you can only afford one …… get the pellet gun.
    Keep in mind in the event of a ‘colaspes of society’ situation were many people are starving, big game will become scarce in a very short time, and worse …… people will hear you shooting, which will draw attention to your actions …….. more than likely in an very unfavorable way.
    But if you decide you still want a .22 survival rifle let me know …….. I have a Charter arms AR7 .22 bolt action, clip mag, 8 round, repeater that all fits in the stock (it even floats) that I will either sell you (through your local gun shop/FFL holder) or trade for a Benjamin Marauder or maybe even a Benjamin XL1100 air rifle in excellent condition.
    Then …… a few months after the advent of Armageddon, I’ll probably get it back from you in trade for a few rabbits and maybe a couple of quail that I’ve shot with the AGs …. so I can trade it again to some other initiated person for a pellet gun ……. then repeat over, and over again ……… :)

    • Greg says:

      Flyer91 nothing beats a springer. PCP is complicated and while you are pumping away I’ve fired my shot. Springers last a lifetime if you not a moron (i.e walk around with it loaded). The problem with all powder burners is the ammo weight. Assuming it’s a SHTF time how much .223 can you carry and all the other crap you need. Also powder ammo gets less reliable with age. A lead pellet lasts forever. Of course depends what you mean by survival? Are you playing around in the woods until things get tricky or has the imminent economic collapse occurred?

  21. calhoun says:

    in my opinion a true break down of modern day society any firearm/ pellet gun would be extremely helpful even thought the knock down power of a .177 cal pellet gun is low, you can quite easily kill squirrels and rabbits. I do this all the time in fact in large quantities with my friends.and once we skin them (from hemorrhaging) we can see the animal took a lot of damage from a such small pellet. almost 80 percent of the time it penetrates fully through the rib cage where it plows through a assortment of organs and finally lodges itself somewhere in the squirrels body . however every so often it will hit a bone and it will not die (thats why i hunt theres 3 of us a shooter a tracker(fancy name for the person who trys to tree one up)(and also another shooter who alternatively the catch carrier) however for home defense a pellet gun should NEVER be in your hands. Not only to kill a BG it would take close range and multiple pellets, but if he happens to have more intelligence than an amoeba he will either fight you with fist or a weapon he may have concealed. you would be better of with a ar 15 (accuracy and reliability) but if for some reason a BG enter your home a 12 gauge shotgun does the trick.

    • john says:

      yeah maybe so but they do make pellet rifles that are powerful enough to kill a rabbit or squirrel or even a possum with one shot irregardless of where you hit them I mean come on you can find pellet rifle that do 1600 feet per second if you spend the money heck that is faster than a 22 but to all the people pushing the 22’s what you seem to be forgetting is that the reason for the pellet rifle is noise a 22 can still be heard from a long way away and in a shtf situation stealth may just be the key although you could always use 22 cb’s they are practicly noiseless and up to 30 yards or so will still kill small game easy enough

    • A D Murphy says:

      You think a BG won’t go down from a air rifle, take a look at the Air Ordnance SMG-22, 100 round belt fed, 600 FPS at 12 PER SECOND!

      A full auto pellet gun at 720 rounds per minute, loaded with PolyMag Predator, and topped off by a laser sight is NOT something you’ll argue with for more than a second! It’s also quiet enough that I’ve fired it in my backyard with no problems!

  22. Jesus Loreto says:

    With today’s air guns you can hunt and hit a dime at 60 yards. And even have shooting power to hunt rabbits at 100-120 yards. I don’t shoot firearms anymore. I was hooked when I was young and I am 50 years old now! It is the most rewarding, you become a very very good shooter. But also make sure if your going to kill something that you will take it home to eat it.

  23. nate says:

    wow, who knew i have been a ‘expert’ at taking small game since age 7!

  24. Steve says:

    In my opinion, a good break barrel pellet rifle or a pump action pellet pistol is a must have for any survivalist. Ammo is very inexpensive and light weight, they now have alloy pellets that weigh much less than standard lead pellets, and travel at a greater velocity. Also, in a pinch you could load the weapon with virtually anything in place of a pellet: small rocks, a small sharpened stick, whatever you can find. Granted these are not ideal projectiles, but when the ammo runs out you will still be able to shoot small game.

  25. Sean Camp says:

    I recall shooting a rabbit with a Daisey powerline pellet rifle when I was a kid. loaded with a BB. and at 3o yards she was disatched quickly with 1 hit to the side of head. I guess BBs go much faster than standard pellets. but need to hit an area that causes brain loss/damage/scramble to disatch an animal quickly. of course luck was a factor at 1o yrs old.
    tasted good coz it was my first.

  26. TOMWETSEL says:

    Air rifle, not BB gun.

    Pellets .17 or .22. with 900+FPS, pump not CO2.

  27. Sean Camp says:

    a Daisey Powerline is a pellet rifle that shoots BBs to . It IS a multi pump pellet rifle.

  28. Hokan says:

    Air guns have come a long way. Calibers range from .177 to .45 which will shoot through a cinder block. Granted you would need to fill the reservoir with either a scuba tank to 2000psi or a multi stage hand pump to that pressure which would take an hour or so of hard pumping. But even when the ammo runs out the air will still be free and in good supply. The area I live in has a bit of a rabbit problem and with my Remington NPSS .22 dispatching the little lawn eating buggers at 25 yards is nothing. I hope I never have to feed myself or my family this way but modern airguns make it possible if need be.

  29. Didio says:

    Recently bought a crosman phantom rated @ 1000 fps in .22

    Power is VERY impressive…

  30. Mark says:

    I say you should get good with a bow and arrow for a survival situation. Best to learn wich a traditional bow because then you can make on yourself pretty easy if you need to. Arrows are reusable and easy to make with a sharp rock and some duct tape. And a bow is proven to take down just about anything you will meet in the woods and is very silent.

    Anyways, about pellet guns. Either you go with a high powered springer, I got one of those in .25 that shoots around 700 fps, these high powered air rifles are very loud, about the same as a .22lr. I also got a Marauder PCP pistol, it is not as loud and you can easily convert it into a carbine. But carrying a big bicykle-type pump around would not be a good option in a survival situation.

    Maybe an FX independence that has an onboard pump? Well, they have alot of weight in them and even though you might be able to take out a squirrel at 100 yards, you would burn more calories going to get that squirrel than you will gain eating it.

    Now, I live in Sweden, so our conditions might be different.

  31. fadoo says:

    As an avid hiker, I started contemplating about ways of taking small game in emergency situations.

    I started with a slingshot (not with a whole lot of expectations). YES U DO need to practice a lot b4 its a viable option at close range, learn to stalk the prey i.e get within 30 feet!!
    With the $19 cheapo Truemark 2K, I get an average of 200 fps using 1/2″ lead slugs I made (12 grams). That is close to 22 Joules at 20-25 feet, with potentially unlimited ammo everywhere. Not to mention you can also carry couple of take down arrows for bow fishing and hunting.

    Next up is a Crosman 1377 pistol, modified to .22 caliber with additional fps and accuracy mods (500+ fps is quiet possible). I grew up shooting pellet guns and can easily take head shots from 50-60 feet (without a scope, so still a viable option

    Survival rifles: Henry A7 ($200), Marlin Papoose ($320ish), & Scout M6 (way over prized due to supply, but comes with over/under 22/410
    I like the 1st two options and of course I will always prefer a firearm over the former two.

    However things that go in the favor of the former
    Sling: If there is a rock u got ammo, small/light, quiet, easily field repairable

    Air pistol: Ammo is very small to pack, I mean you can carry 500 pellets in the size of deck of cards. they rarely jam or breakdown.

    I would personally carry a sling, AND a Henry or Marlin

  32. Shamrock0976 says:

    Here’s my idea of a pellet gun :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClVbIS3r3-g

    I think there are a few benefits to consider; ammo is cheap and easy to stock. You can pump these up with an air tank (if you have a generator for a compressor) or with a hand pump, and they are fairly quiet considering. These big bores can take any kind of game you’re after.

  33. joey p. says:

    i agree rws 350 magnum .22 pellet gun will fill all your small game needs up to 65 yards or so and provide stew beef for sure .;lets not forget our rimmys or c.f will absolutely be needed for self defense and big game and ammo wont last forever

  34. Mike says:

    Big Cat® 1200 (Gamo)is a .177 caliber Air Rifle with 1200fps. This will take any small game out that a .22 will and no pumping. Just break the barrel, load, close and shoot.

  35. Mel Beasley says:

    Not everyone is lucky enough to live in a country where firearms are widely available. I live in Spain and getting a firearms licence is a huge problem for anyone not fluent in Spanish. I’m restricted to an 18Lb/Ft Air rifle. If I still lived in the UK, it would be 12 Lb/ft, although I may stand a chance of getting a shotgun licence.

  36. Ed Boysen says:

    This is also a good option for those of us who can’t legally carry firearms.

  37. m a w says:

    i belive pellet guns r great.ive been using a crossman 760 pump master with not much sucess unless lizards r succes. im probablt getting a break barrel crossman phantom 1000 fps pellet gun. 80 dollars .177 cheap reliable deadly and accurate faster than a 22. also if 177 is not anough many copanies make high velocity guns anywhere from 800 to 1400 in 177 22 25 45 and 50 cal. but unless u cary scuba tanks around the higher cald wont due

  38. niko says:

    bb guns are good for plinking and practicing, but whenever you need to eliminate something pull out the pellet gun.

  39. Larry says:

    A few months ago, a neighbors dog, pit/boxer cross attacked my chickens again. He had already killed 8 of them over the past few months. This time I was tired of telling neighbor. I shot him at around 30 ft with my CO2 .177 pellet pistol with red tip pellets. I shot him right under shoulder, he went around 10 steps, and dropped dead. Dog had to weigh around 30-40 lbs. I was shocked. But I did learn a lesson about the ability of the .177 pellet gun.

    • Mike says:

      Dumbass redneck!!!!

  40. Mike says:

    Nice job man….Took down someone’s dog.. Hopefully someone reports you. Try keeping ur chickens better couped and not so free ranged. Any dog in the worlds natural instinct is to hunt a chicken unless specifically trained not to. And don’t blame a stupid owners negligence on the dog. Make you ultimately the dumb ***

    • CombatMissionary says:

      Maybe idiot dog owners should try keeping them penned up so chicken owners don’t have to kill their dogs. Loose dogs are a nuisance. They killed my horse when I was a kid. Loose your dog, lose a dog.

    • Eberhard says:

      Im my yard lived young kittens.I feed them and one morning found them butchered by street bunch dogs.Because i bought HATSAN 125 and i promise anyone if i see dog in my viewpoint i will shoot.

  41. Mel Beasley says:

    For those of us living in Europe, a pellet gun is often the only option.

  42. Clinton Chamberlain says:

    It seems to me that none of the responders have done their homework. For their three year trip to find a way to take a boat from the Missouri River to the Columbia river, Lewis and Clark carried an air gun with them all the way to the Pacific and back, and did most of their hunting, and most of their awing of Indians with an airgun – and this was in 1806. Not exactly a new idea. And the thing got wet, was lost in a river, shot by nearly everyone on the expedition and a whole bunch of Indians. It was their fall back weapon in case their powder got wet – and most of it did, or got lost in a river and such. And I doubt that many members of the Lewis and Clark expedition, used s they were to using their powder and shot smooth bores, were any better shots than “Big John” must be.

    Clint

  43. HPL says:

    My 2 cents worth on this topic:
    (Given we are talking about Survival items, not fun/games/hobbies)
    I believe that a pellet gun is NOT a survival item. Most pellet guns that are powerful enough to reliably kill small game are quite large, long, and heavy. You would be surprised how long and heavy a powerful air rifle is. And FORGET about pellet pistols. They have no power at all, except for a Pre-Charged Pneumatic) PCP pistol, which is a joke because of how long they are (18 inches long, and you have to carry around a heavy pump or scuba tank to fill them). Not to mention, all PCP guns, whether rifles or pistols cost more than VERY nice firearms.
    If you have a .22 caliber spring-piston air rifle, which really is the minimum for ensuring hunting medium and small game, this gun will weigh about 8 to 9 pounds and will be a foot longer than a .22LR rimfire firearm. And it is only one eighth as powerful. And WORSE YET, a .177 caliber version of the same gun is just as heavy, and is only one 16th as powerful as a 22LR rimfire firearm, which is a foot shorter, and weighs 4 pounds less.
    Again, we are talking about SURVIVAL scenarios. Airguns are great if you want to shoot in stealth in your own house at 10 to 20 yards, or in your back yard, without the cops or neighbors knowing. But if you want to defend against hateful people, or kill a decent sized animal to survive off of, you won’t care about a loud rifle, because your life is either in danger, or you are in the boonies anyways. As for the cost of ammunition – lead pellets are quite cheap, yes. But if you have to shoot 4 of them at a prey before you kill it, or before you hit your target, are you really saving that much money.
    Also, pellet guns are a lot less durable in the bush. They have very fragile seals, that are not going to hold up to abuse, rain, variations in temperature, snow, ice, etc. Air rifles are in general quite fragile and need a lot more maintenance and care than any firearm.

    • Batman of the Boondocks says:

      Sounds like someone who has never actually used an air rifle and has the cartoonish notion that they’re going to play mountain man after TSHTF.

      You’ve got dreams of running around shooting deer left and right, when not battling mutant zombie bikers, don’t cha?

      In the real world, spring piston air rifles are more durable than any cartridge rifle. They’re more than accurate enough to take common small game animals at reasonable distances, and even .177 rifles are powerful enough to kill squirrels, rabbits, possums and other edible animals.

      And in the real world, those are the only animals that are going to be around to be shot. Deer, elk and other large animals will be wiped out in a matter of weeks.

      • Brian says:

        HPL is an I.D.I.O.T

        • HPL says:

          Brian is a MORONIC punk who knows nothing.

      • HPL says:

        WTF are you talking about, Batman? I am not the one who wrote this original blog, claiming that an air rifle is a great tool for SHTF, etc. And why the hell are you talking about zombies? I live in the f-ing real world. I am not a child who believes in the goddam boogy man.

  44. Oscar Gomez says:

    I think we can let the zombies out of this… But as some of the guys are telling, if the —- hit the fan the best tactic is to keep a very low profile and stay quiet until everything clear out. And, if you want keep the protein coming in, the best option for steal hunting is a .22 cal pellet gun. This is not a way to keep other weapons out of play, but the sound of the air rifles will bring less attention to your operation area and will help protect your hiding hole. Of course, you will need for example a Ruger 10/22 with two or three 25 rounds magazines, a pistol or revolver that will be your every minute companion and something cal .223 or 7.62×39 (AK)in case you have to defend yourself and your family of a mayor problem. Airguns like Diana 34 or 48 in .22 are a little heavy but in power and precision are fully capable of taking medium size game without being noisy, also this is not an equipment to be carry al day long; just to get some meat for the soup of the day. On the other hand, and this was said already, you can buy 5000 pellets under $80.00 that used just to hunt will go a long way. Visit Walmart for boxes of 500 pellets Crossman Premier Magnum Pellets for $7.50 This is a no brainer: powerful, precise, silent and cheap… Now, with this part solved, I want to direct your attention to another very important issue: Water Purification… Think about it’s a very difficult task in the wilderness…

    • marc lincoln says:

      I’ve hunted squirrel and rabbit since I was old enough to hold a gun. Hunting small game is still my favorite thjng to do. I’ve used a .22 rimfire since I was 15 when hunting with a shotgun was no longer a challenge. I have tried probably 100 different rifles. The Ruger 10/22 is a good choice but my all time favorite is a Remington Speedmaster. Small game rarely sits still for long and getting a shot lined up is much faster with open sites. The Speedmasters accuracy with open sites is unmatched. It is a tube fed auto, so you tap out at 15 LR or 22 Shorts. It is also accurate enough to shoot the balls off of a piss ant with a scope. If you want to shoot the 100 yarder and be able to lay down quick fire at a rabbit on the run the speedmaster is what you want.

      I bought my first REAL pellet gun about a month ago. It is a Hatsan 95 .22 break barrel. I fitted it with a 3-9x32mm scope and I have been very impressed. I bought the gun online for $95 refurbish and I use Crosman destroyer pellets which are $5 for 200. I have shot and killed two squirrels out of the same tree in consecutive shots at a minimum of 60 yards and probably closer to 70. I shot one that was laying across a small fork in a tree through the chest from below and the destroyer pellet left a hole almost the size of a dime when it exited through his back. It is sad that gun prices have inflated so much that if you ask me what the best gun you can get in the $100 range is I tell you to buy a Hatsan 95 pellet gun. My gun shoots a 14gr .22 pellet over 800fps

  45. Dillon Brakebill says:

    I have roughly 900 rounds brass plated hollow point long rifle .22 caliber bullets and was wondering how much i should ask for when I take them to sell them at a local pawn and gun shop? Any idea ? Thank you

  46. Rob says:

    These preppers who brag about their gun collections and stored ammo make me laugh at their stupidity.When the armed urban assualt vehicle pulls up on your road and swings its big armor at you,you are not going to use all that stored ammo.Useless.I have a collection of simple weaponry.You DO NOT want to break in my house and have me “throat” you with my 125 Hatsan .25 caliber pellet gun.You will need the emergency room.Feet per second means little.Ft/lbs at the muzzle is what you want with pellet guns.600-800 per sec. with domed shaped or any quality hunting pellet is what you want.Stay away from nitro-piston guns.Get a .25 cal long gun.Store 2-3 extra seals for the spring piston.I can shoot through a dried coconut at 70 yards.Even with a factory silencer..this gun is a loud snap but not as loud as a .22 rim fire.

  47. Paul Carew says:

    Modding out a Crosman 1377 right now, perfect middle of the road weapon. If you seriously know a place to get 5000 rounds for under $10, PLEASE share!

  48. raymay says:

    i recommend the henry ar7. It’s lightweight and packs into itself. Of course if you want to go with something smaller you can always go with a s&w .17 or .22 revolver.

  49. Allan hart says:

    I was always under the impression that pellet guns were toys for kids. I recently bought a gamo socom extreme .177 cal that claims ” 1700fps”… I brought it home and the first thing I did was take a crack shot at a deer to spook him off my corn… it killed him! I felt so bad… he didn’t make it 20 yards before he folded up. it was a body shot too, I was shocked. 40 yard shot with a tic tac..

  50. Aline Nolan says:

    I am a 81 yr young woman, I live in a small town, Dalhart TX. I have raccoons that bother my 2 little dogs. What kind of pellet gun can I buy to kill them?I am a country gal can’t shoot my 22 or 410 in town. Would disturb neighbors Can’t trap, get the neighbors cats.

  51. Paul Jones says:

    I have killed many squirrels with a .20 cal Benjamin Sheridan. It just depends on the shooter skills.

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