Another Off-Grider Shutdown: History Channel’s Mountain Man Targeted by Government Zoning Officials

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March 1, 2013

After 26 years of living off the land, and teaching scores of people about the American Heritage way of getting back to nature, Eustace Conway, who was featured on featured on The History Channel’s Mountain Men, has been forced to close his nature school.

Eustace Conway

Eustace, who purchased a large amount of land outside Boone, N.C., has been using his land to teach people how to live closer to nature. But now, thanks to government officials who don’t agree with his lifestyle, Eustace is being forced to fight for his way of life and to keep his school open.

Like many of the stories we’ve covered over the last couple of years, Eustace is another in a long string of people who are being “zoned” out of existence. From the heartbreaking story of Andrew Wordes, who took his life after code enforcement teams seized his home, to the Off-Griders in California who are being illegally forced back on to the grid, what’s happening to Eustace seems to be a calculated attack on anyone who dares live a self-sufficient lifestyle.

It’s really sickening when you look into what’s really going on. We have government officials across our land who are threatening people, arresting them, and forcibly taking their land; and for what?

When did it become acceptable for the government to intimidate someone off their land? When did it become acceptable for the government to tell us how we can live on our own land? These aren’t people living in some urban area, where you might be able to make a case for zoning ordinances; these are people who live in rural areas of the country on large plots of land.

In the case of Eustace Conway, this is a man who lives on a large plot of rural land who isn’t doing anything to disturb anyone in anyway. Yet county officials have literally shut him down, and told him he can’t teach people how to live off the land unless he makes changes that would go against his way of life.

Here is his Story:

Government Crack Down on Self Reliance and Liberty

Uncle Sam Propaganda Poster

While some dismiss these cases as localized issues, I believe they’re part of a larger movement to control the way Americans live. What we are seeing here is a coordinated attack on traditional American values, and an all out assault on the self reliant lifestyle.

I think evidence of this can be seen:


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  1. I am an ICC Certified Building Official and Code Inspector. This makes me ashamed of my profession. Is there anything I can do to help Eustace?

    • D. White says:

      Help him by finding him a way (to counter sue them) for trying to stop him from utilizing HIS land as he sees fit. Its no different from selling a bunch of hand made yarn hats that (you make) to earn money to pay your own property taxes…

      • jim says:

        D. White, several of us have done and do what we can to help others in our profession but to maintain a career we have to walk that fine line of enforcement that comes from the position. I always give others their digintity and I am more of a teacher mentality than a abusive govt official. I believe in putting the servant back into the “Public Servant” roll….

        • Hava Conscience says:

          If you had any moral character, you would NOT BE MAINTAINING A CAREER working for this corrupt government. You would develop the skills and confidence to be independent of this sick system…kind of like Eustace.

          Stop making excuses about careers, I was only following orders, it’s my job, etc. People that work for government are the problem. NON-COMPLIANCE IS THE ANSWER.

          • Flashmiester says:

            Jeez Hava Conscience give the man a break. We do need codes and safety when it comes to our buildings, public and private. People like you really live in a dreamland if you think we do not need some common rules and regulations. Think a little before making such ignorant statements.

          • Whoa Whoa says:

            Relax crazy… people need jobs.

      • William says:

        These days I don’t trust ANY govt. official. They all have agendas for the “big govt.” they are bullies and only care about their wallet size. It’s pretty sad to see.

    • Jim says:

      Richard I am right there with you. Been an inpspector for 22 yrs and really have a problem with this agenda 21 crap… One day a set of plans came across my desk for a Flouride treatment addition to our water system and I complained about it but was overruled. I guess we have to go through what Detroit is suffering from before we can get back to farming.

      • Dave I. says:

        Stop working for the CRIMINALS and doing their bidding. IF the workers would REFUSE to participate in actions against their fellow man, this would stop.


        • Mike says:

          Non-compliance = non-eating.

      • Dixie & Me says:

        All of the writers who subscribe and promote off grid living, especially from a military perspective, recommend going underground, literally, or keeping the lifestyle extremely secret. I agree with that philosophy. We the people have real enemies among us. We must function like we are inside of a war zone. if we are to remain free. The ones whom are getting caught are way to much in the public eye.

        • bob says:

          No one cars about you,and most certainly not the government you paranoid nut case.

    • Vet63 says:

      Conway was not shut down because of how he lives but because he was running a tourist attraction and so called school, serving food and providing lodging without observing proper health and safety standards. He can live there as long as he wants and any way he wants but you can’t have thousands of people using the woods as a latrine without creating a stink so to speak. His financial problems are not about taxes as claimed but about his not paying a law suit for a child who lost an eye on his property. He does not get along with his neighbors and has been arrested for trespass because he seems to think he has some right to tell them what they can or cannot do on their property. How is it that a person who lives off grid has his own website? Check “Turtle Island Preserve”. Eustace Conway and Turtle Island are in fact nothing like what is presented on TV. The county was right to shut him down, they were only remiss in not doing it sooner.

      • Jonathan Bailey says:

        its funny to me that people like you see problems with this, but not with the GMO Monsanto monsters. Did we always have toilets, electricity and plumbing? the government says this man isnt running a healthy environment, but anyone can take their children to McDonalds for every meal of the day with no backlash, to feed them poison…they want his land to develop it, period. i suppose your just another ignorant government charlie…and who cares if it isnt what TV shows? neither is jersey shore…you, or nobody else, has the right to tell this man what he can do on his own land. at least he isnt aborting children, or marrying gays and lesbians on it, thank God. But THAT would be acceptable…

        • Pantycrickets says:

          We didn’t always have toilets, and we also didn’t always have hundreds of people using the same area as a toilet. That sort of behavior was responsible for millions of deaths in England. Recall that people used to throw their chamber pots right into the streets? We have certain laws for good reasons. Humans used to do many things, and the life expectancy followed suit.

        • R. VanOrden says:

          I am all for living off the grid and being self sufficient. I’ve been doing it for over 25 years. Eustace Conway is a complete fraud. Plain and simple.

          • pete says:

            You’ve been living off the grid for 25 years? …yet you somehow managed to post that comment stating that he’s a “complete fraud.” Isn’t that the case of the kettle calling the pot black?

          • Alpheus says:

            living off the grid does not mean living without electricity and such. It is not being connected to the controllers, being independent. I can live off the grid and still have all the latest electronics and technologies except of coarse hard line cable. ect…. ect… ect…

        • John says:

          Wow…. Just wow…. Are you really this stupid or are you just saying this stuff to get a rise out of someone? First off to suggest that it’s okay for human waste from countless people to just be spread around and not collected and treated in a waste management facility is mind blowingly retarded. Secondly you’re saying that this person has no right to tell anyone what they can and can’t do and yet you’re saying it’s wrong to abort a fetus or have a gay marriage which makes you a hypocrite. Thirdly there is a certain standard that you have to meet to open your place to the public and if you don’t meet them then you don’t need to be open to the public. God I wish your parents approved of abortion and participated in it that way there would be one less imbecile in this world.

          • Bob Swogger says:

            Talk about hypocrite; you are the utltimate hiypoctrate!

          • William says:

            Abortion and gay marriage IS wrong!

        • grubpubert says:

          North Carolina turned into California when all the intellectuals moved in. I’m a 60 year old Texan and noticed this 20 years ago when I was chosen to attend a graduate seminar on the southern novel in the southern community at UNC. I was shocked at how pro-government and political everyone was, and nobody was from NC. It’s like Austin which is completely foreign to most Texans. There is still a rural USA that wouldn’t put up with gov’t over-reaching; the city of Houston has NO zoning laws. You can build a synagogue next to a day care center next to a strip club next to a Baptist Church next to a liquor store next to a halfway house for parolees next to a multi-million dollar hotel. You can go fishing in the storm drains.

      • chris says:

        Give them what they want eustice, every time you roll into town for sugar salt and flour, go to city hall, and take a big ole dump in their crapper….save it up for days on end, scrunch your cheeks up, hold it in buddy! don’t hit any big pot holes on the road…wouldn’t wanna lose that bad boy before you reach the drop zone…be sure to eat beans the night before, and drink some watered down grits in the morning while the ole truck is warming up. march yourself right down to the city hall crapper, and drop duke pal. let em know that theyre missing out on some backwoods doody aroma in that podunk little town. leave em somethin that’ll debreeze febreeze…be sure to write on the stall wall for a good time, call your gay loving uncle sam…bunch of scallywags…city slicker dip doodles got no business creepin around in the woods on your property nohow! save gas, and build yourself a catapult, and name it hooflungpoo, and put a made in china sticker on it….just to throw em off a little eh?

      • bill says:

        go back to obozo fantasy babylon commi pig

        • yankeegal52 says:

          That’s really uncalled for and only shows an immaturity unbecoming any human being.

          • barbara watson says:

            Well another case of the government running everyone and no such thing as freedom of nothing! Its getting to where our hertidge is going out of sight and the ones who are trying to keep it alive is getting run off people can’t live in peace cause no one can leave anyone alone its getting to where a person can’t spit without the government sticking their nose in it or someone telling you can’t sit on your on porch ,its getting crazy !!! People don’t like what Eustace does don’t watch the show the remote does go to other channels no ones twisting anyone’s arm to watch it!!!!

    • Dulce says:

      The government doesn’t want you living off the grid, they want you living ON welfare!! Right!?

      • Bob Swogger says:

        The more people that are living on govmnt handouts, the more the power of the politicians.!

        • William says:

          Ya as far as the far left goes that is. Bunch of idiots!

        • Justin says:

          Oh my gosh finally some else has this figured out! Hope others see through it.

    • elf says:

      TITLE 18 U.S.C. SEC. 241, 242
      TITLE 42 U.S.C. SEC. 1982, 1983, 1985, 1986
      To all persons, officers, and governmental agencies.
      including, but not limited to Federal Officers
      SOCIAL SERVICE WORKERS and other unconstitutional
      agencies, and to all LOCAL MEMBERS OF PLANNING & ZONING BOARDS:

      WARNING : You are hereby advised of the following
      Federal Criminal Law
      “If two or more persons conspire to oppress, threaten, or
      intimidate any citizen in the free exercise & enjoyment of any
      right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or the Laws of
      the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same: or
      If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with the intent to prevent or hinder his
      free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured-
      They shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than
      ten years or both: and if death results, they shall be subject to imprisonment for any term of years or for life.”

      Get this No Trespassing sign posted on your property

  2. Maveth says:

    No sympathy from me. It’s his own damned fault. The idiot wanted his 15 minutes of fame on TV, and brought himself up on the radar.

    • cam says:

      he was not looking for 15 minutes of fame. he was looking to inspire more people to live the way he does. which honestly is the way we were meant to live. and they approached him about being on the show, he didn’t go out looking for tv crews to bring home. the worst part is there are many others living this way in boone nc, (i went to college there) and there is no way to shut them ALL down…they are just trying to make an example of him.

    • Gunman says:

      Screw you this man has done wonderful things bringing people closer to nature

      • dan j says:

        Just sit back and waite look how people responded to carnival triump we ever have to rely on our own people will commit mass suscide thy can not live in the wild.

    • DeltaGuyDownSouth says:

      Fuc off …arsshole

    • DeltaGuyDownSouth says:

      This man is doing nothing wrong….it people likee u Mav. That will cause unrest.

    • Brandi says:

      How can it be his own fault if you listened to the video he clearly states that the county has come out previously and told him things were good? This is an awful act being committed by our government. He is teaching history and how to live off the land when the government can’t protect us anymore. Now I see a very big problem with this. We have allowed our government to take control of so many aspects of our lives all in the name of common good. All the new laws and everything. It sickens me that all these government officials think they can tell us how to live and we let them.

    • Braeden says:

      you say that like living off the grid is illegal, or something people should be ashamed of, you seem paranoid or dumb, one of the two

    • Tim Harp says:

      He , probably ,did the show to fund his school and not for fame. He was cutting wood to pay property taxes on his land in one show. you can scream fame but I holler funding.

      • DiverDwn says:

        Sorry, buddy, but that was a lie. That whole scene was stupid. The paper you saw was a Notice of Rights to Claim Exemptions. That was from a civil suit where Eusless was sued and lost. That forms only apply to civil suits and not taxes. No property is exempt from a tax lien. Eusless is a known liar and womanizer. Why have you never seen inside his house on the show? Because he is damn well not living off the grid. Almost every scene of that show has been proven fake. Eusless owns a nice house in Gastonia, NC and has a lot of cash in the bank. He is not losing his land to a tax debt.

        • Jonathan Bailey says:

          its funny again, he is a womanizer, well so what? is it illegal? is it your business? you have GOT to be libtard…but wait, womanizers are good for the abortion business…im surprised you dont salute him…ignorant waste of breating air…stop breating intelligent peoples air!!!

          • Rob M says:

            You have to be kidding me. The womanizing was one small part of his point. His point is that show is a lie and not accurate. That he is lying about the issue and taking advantage of the system. Then skewing it to look as though he is the one being taken advantage of. I hope you are not breathing any of that intelligent air either.

          • kentuckywoman2 says:

            Calling people names for their political beliefs and attributing things to them that are wildly made up by you – is a sign of weakness…and impotence. Just thought I’d let you in on that.

          • William says:

            Hey Kentucky woman! Sounds like the idiot in the White House who I’m sure you voted for!

      • val says:

        Well said.

    • Pam says:

      Actually if I recall right they were attempting to shut him down before the show aired so the show was not the cause it just let alot more people know about it.

    • YOU are the idiot sir!
      Have you ever heard of “Agenda 21”?
      Agenda 21 is a UN sponsored bill signed by Bill Clinton in the 1990’s and basically what it says is that for the sake of ecology, people will be restricted to urban living and will need special permission to enter rural areas. The goal is to contain or corral people and control us in an enclosed area.

      This man in this video, Eustace Conway, was teaching people to survive in the woods and be self reliant. However, the government and globalists have another agenda, to control the public through one government, police state, ID chips, total dependance on the government for services, and restricted movement. That is an Orwellian state of 1984.

      For you to say he is an “idiot” is totally uncalled for because your ignorance is sitting deep in your mouth like an over sized foot.

      • Rob M says:

        Dude, don’t take the brown acid. It scares me that people like you are in the world. I would prefer people that think like you were put out in the woods and left to whatever the hell you wanted as long as you didn’t breed.

      • kentuckywoman2 says:

        First of all, there is no such thing as a “U.N.” sponsored bill. The U.N. does not write legislation for the United States.

        Second of all, Agenda 21 is a non-binding, voluntarily implemented action plan of the United Nations with regard to sustainable development – in many countries across the world. Implementation varies from NATION STATE to NATION STATE – which is what other countries of the world are formally called (which you would know if you had a formal education).

        Third, Bill Clinton had nothing to do with it. It was Pres. George H.W. Bush who signed the final text of the agreement – which is not legally binding but is a statement of intent – at the Earth Summit conference in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. 178 heads of government signed, so this is a global agreement, not just for the U.S.

        Because the U.N. doesn’t sponsor or write legislation for the U.S., and because this isn’t a treaty but rather a “statement of intent”, the U.S. Senate was not required to debate it or vote on it. Therefore, it is not considered law under Article Six of the U.S. Constitution.

        Because this is not law, some States and local governments have passed legislation banning the implementation of Agenda 21. Alabama and Alaska, for example.

        If you don’t like it, and I agree it seems to be serving to take over people’s land by hook or by crook, then organize and get it banned in your local community or State.

        But at least know wtf you’re talking about before you open your mouth. Do some research…because clearly, you haven’t.

        • grubpubert says:

          God, this makes what they did to Eustace even WORSE.

  3. JAS says:

    I keep saying to keep your mouths shut. Don’t be bragging about what you are doing in front of government watchdogs. These people going on TV and broadcasting their lifestyle are just setting themselves up for a government intervention. I watch some of these programs and sit there wondering how many goverment agents are watching and taking notes. One episode of Doomsday Preppers featured a guy making pipe bombs and setting them off around his property. I would not be suprised to see him in the national news, being arrested by BATF agents.

    • joe says:

      JAS, so what are you doing about this out of control government. We aren’t the one’s that should be changing our lifestyle for this radical government. I hope you are doing “something” to change it. We all need to do what we can, right now!

      • JAS says:

        I applaud the life style Eustace has chosen. I am not suggesting we change our lifestyles. Currently the only thing we can do is vote and write your elected officials to let them know where you stand. Join groups like the NRA. The government, or more specifically the big international companies that control the government,do not want anyone doing anything that is outside the box. They want everything controlled to their advantage and will try to force you into this mold. My only suggestion is that we go about our lives without broadcasting what we are doing. I can forsee them trying to ban longterm storage of food under the guise that it is unsafe and could cause people to die, or making it against the law to have more than 5 gallons of gas on your premises, since it could leak and polute the world. Anything they feel doesn’t fit their ideals, can be outlawed by the ones they control. I vote, call and write my representives and support groups like the NRA. But most importantly, I don’t stand in the middle of the street and scream out who I am and what I do. I want to be below the radar. As with everything we do, we must look at our chosen lifestyle from others eyes and how they will look at it. I have a legal right to carry a weapon, but I try not to let anyone know I do since it just brings more of the idiots out against it.

        • Nomadicwade says:

          They already have outlaw most of what your talking about homeland security.

  4. CGJR says:

    Things like this make me so INFURIATED that I could just scream! And reading about them taking someone’s land?! Oh, you can bet EVERYONE would know about it! It would be ALL OVER the news!!!!

  5. Runner says:

    They pass more and more laws to try to make you go “green”, but when this guy is living closer to nature than any of these green people, he is shut down. Just shows it’s not about green. It’s about control.

    • Midknight says:

      Oh it’s about green alright. Money that is.

    • Those laws you speak of are in conformity with the signing of “Agenda 21” by Bill Clinton in the 1990s

      Agenda 21 is cloaked as an ecological preservation of the land and thus needs protection. The protection will come with restrictions to living in rural areas. People will be encouraged to not drive vehicles, but public transportation or non-motorized transports. Travel outside of the confines of urban areas will be done with permits.

      This is not a theory, nor is it my definition, it is goal of the UN to control populations and is spelled out in the Agenda 21 mission statement. Many towns in the US already have signed on board because they were led to believe its an ecological goal instead of the more sinister goal of public control.

      Google “Agenda 21” and learn how future generations will be limited in more than where they live.

  6. SNIPER says:

    My wife and i live in Alabama and travel to the Carolina’s and Tennesse alot, quess we will not be going as far north as we used to. I just added up some receipts and we spent around $2,600.00 last year in N.C.,,,,NEVER AGAIN.

  7. toadswife says:

    When did it become acceptable or the government to force people off their own land you ask ? When they got away with taking land away from the Indians, thats when……and they havent and arent going to stop now.

  8. Ray says:

    I really would like to listen to this story, but am not able. Seems that someone has made it impossible to hear by scrambling the sound. Any good working links would be appreciated. thanks

  9. ncman says:

    I live in western North Carolina, and I will, and am getting ready to go off grid self-sufficient life style, I do not submit to childish laws for the incompetent. Example, the bridge with one hand rail, really, is that law for the dumb as that can’t figure it (pay attention, be careful) out or the nincompoop that is looking for a law suit. He should just let his guests walk through the creek, wet feet, that’s how it was done 50 years ago around these parts. Cityiots (city idiots) is why we need 100,000,000 laws on the books. And it is about green, money, whatever they can do to get a dollar.

  10. why now brown cow says:


  11. David says:

    I was born in N.C. On the day I was born, the electric was turned on in Transylvania County. June 28, 1946. I think there was 1 light bulb in the house and just a few minutes after I was born that light came on.

    I now live in Ohio and the electric goes out pretty often. When it happens, I switch over to batteries, windmill, and generator.

    I would like to be able to go off the grid and am building up my system a little at a time.. The longest the power was off at my house was two days. I have seen my neighbor without power for 2 weeks once.


  12. Mike says:

    So… he has this 1,000-acre parcel of property called Turtle Island Preserve.

    What is stopping him from placing a secluded trailer home on the property with a leach field (all within code)? The trailer could be the ‘official’ residence, so who cares if they chose to sleep in one of the ‘out buildings’ as long as their official address is the mobile home?

    Since it is already called a Preserve, offering training for primitive living skills, they could also set a designated camp site for the ‘students’ to pitch their tent in proximity to adequate facilities like an outhouse and water from a hand pump well (assuming they already have a well permit), keeping in line with the traditional experience for the duration of their event.

    This way, their official mobile trailer home is within code, their students stay in their own tents (or even provided ones) just as if they were camping; Eustace Conway gets to stay on his property, continue to provide skill training to students that sign waivers and keep on doing what he has been doing.

    IMHO, it is all a matter of presentation.

    • Beau says:

      Yes I agree Mike this is what Eustace should do.

      This isn’t just happening in the US, here in Australia many off gridders and people who live simply with a minimum of dependency are also being pressured due to zoning laws etc.

      Again people living very rural, people who made the conscious decision to cut the apron strings of governments control are being forced to comply or face heavy fines just like our brothers in the northern hemisphere.
      What many are doing here is putting in a bare minimum of construction that will bring things up to code, satisfying the beast so to speak. and continue to live how they see fit.

      • Tee says:

        Example of property use stupidity…my parents property used to have a beautiful pond. They had to fill it in BECAUSE people on adjoining property decided to put in a large riding stable and it drained downhill into our pond. It was a hazard then because the pond drained down to some newly sold land. Where is common sense in land use laws? Cost a bunch to fix the problem we didn’t cause…but less than fighting 2 different property owners.

    • OutSideOfTheBox says:

      He paid for the land, right? So who are you or anyone else to tell him what he has to do on it? If people don’t like the smell they can move or not buy property near his.

  13. Lana says:

    This is outrageous!…. We should be allowed to live the American Dream, no matter what that Dream maybe, as long as it does not Harm or Hurt anyone.. With the Goverment its all about MONEY! And what they can get out of you to make another Weapon. Leave people like this Alone!.. I think all Goverment officials are stupid!! And you have no right to say how a Person CAN or CANNOT live!.. It has become no longer OUR CHOICE!… But THEIRS!.. Americans NEED to STAND up for their rights!… Just like they stand up for their BELIEFS which are being Raped from them…

    • Nomadicwade says:

      That why they want you gun stupid

  14. Steph says:

    Can’t someone help him like they did with Rosa Parks? their should be something someone could do to help fight the Government? but I guess this is just signs of the times or I guess you could say end of times per Revelations!!!

    • Northman says:

      Rosa Parks was at least a puppet of Soviet Agents working in the Unites States. She had considerable organized support –immediately, or earlier– concerning her public transit situation. There was funding from Moscow via several cut-outs to make it all possible.

      I’m not saying that Blacks ought to sit here or there, but that the issue was used by foreign enemies for their benefit, much more than for hers or the “civil rights movement” of the post-Korean War era. The nation is still suffering from the fallout and enemy agents placed in positions of power. Just like what happened in the US Southern States in the 1870’s, Black individuals have appeared to benefit while Black and White US society has suffered greatly from ComIntern contact.

      • deedee says:


  15. dselestial says:

    If there is any truth to your statements, Diverdwn, please provide some sort of verifiable information. Otherwise, I am inclined to start up a Paypal donation to help out Eustace!

  16. carla says:

    The people who moved to the suburbs allowed government to gain control when they wanted their nice little additions with their strict little covenants – no fences, no metal swing sets, no vegetable gardens, no above ground swimming pools, no sheds, etc. Snobs!!! You buy a house and live like an apartment renter. How many of you responders live in additions like that and think it’s OK?

    Now the government wants to tell everyone how to live. This is just the start.

    • Echo says:

      Not me. I live in an RV. I am within a campground now,but I could pull out of here and go in a heartbeat!

  17. Shannon says:

    Poor guy. Just trying to do what he loves, not to mention helping other people do what they love. Then our stupid government comes and ruins his life.

  18. SNIPER says:

    All of the far left narrow minded cool aid drinking cattle that think that MR. CONWAY was wrong for teaching others a good way of life, will be the first to ask for his help when what is coming happens….

    one shot-one kill

  19. elveta says:

    so many americans are in a downhill rush to give up our rights its refreshing to hear that they are still people that think the way our forefathers did

    • Nomadicwade says:

      Keep your guns handed. That what they fear. What was this county found on and keep free by?

  20. jason hendrick says:

    All of the so-called reality shows are staged and scripted. The History Channel’s “Mountain Men” is one of the stupidest shows on TV. This guy Eustice lives near Boone, NC which is not isolated or in any remote area, but is easy assessible by many paved roads. Hardly a mountain man, but more like a hillbilly, or derelict I’m so sick of hearing how the law is going to take his land away from him,from not paying his taxes. WHO GIVES A FUCK!

  21. kw says:

    Everything on TV is called Entertainment. That’s all it is. Most of these shows are scripted and produced to entertain all of us and keep tuning in every week. Its all about the $$$$$ for these stations and corporate sponsors.

    • elf says:

      Actually …it is called PROGRAMMING
      and it is done for exactly the same reason

  22. ajintexas says:

    Not saying I am right or wrong, or that my facts are 100% correct, but here is what I have gathered about Eustace. He seems like a well meaning guy and I don’t think he is a fraud. That being said he has, allegedly, committed a couple of crimes. One presented on the show was not paying property taxes, but according to what I have dug up it’s not because he just didn’t pay. Allegedly, someone lost an eye during some ssort of accident on his property. There was a lawsuit and a settlement. Allegedly, he did not pay the settlement so the lawyer put a lien on his land so he either has to pay up, or the county will seize the land as payment on the lien. Now enter the county. For one, they have to enforce this settlement., Secondly, if this injury occurred at his camp then someone went out to investigate. I can’t find many details about this part. Maybe it was due to a faulty structure and that’s when they went on a tear to shut his camp down. I don’t know, but I do know someone was injured there and this is not a simple property tax issue. I think it is being misrepresented on the show to make him out to be a victim. Enter incident number two. This guy has neighbor problems. He doesn’t think anyone should live anywhere near him, even if he doesn’t own the property. So he gets arrested for 2nd degree trespassing. His neighbor is afraid of him. This guy may legitimately live off the land, but it doesn’t mean he can ignore building codes if he wants to run a business there, especially if it results in a serious bodily injury. Nor can you harrass your neighbors without consequence. He obstructed their only means of leaving their home at one point, allegedly, and that is why he got arrested for tresspassing on their land again. He may live off the land, but he needs to respect others.

    • ajintexas says:

      Also, let’s not forget that this is a college educated guy. Look at his website, he makes a decent lving off those camps. This whole “I’m just a fish out of water” business is a front. He knows what a lien is, he just doesn’t want to pay because he doesn’t believe in the legal system or being responsible for your actions. He also takes advantage of a lot of free slave lavbor on his property calling it “internships”.

  23. Vet63 says:

    AJ has it right but there is more. It’s not about how Eustace lives, it’s about his running a tourist attraction and so-called school without proper sanitation and safety considerations. People who have interned there say he does not walk his talk. He does not live off the land and he is not a good steward of the land. Most of Turtle Island is hidden from the public and even the county inspectors had not, in previous visits, seen the things for which he was finally shut down. Hidden from view are numerous junk vehicles, collapsing trailers and heaps of garbage all just decaying into the ground. He treats his buildings with used motor oil which runs into the ground along with gasoline and battery acid. Turtle Island, according to those who have worked there, actually produces almost none of its own food but depends on donations and collecting half rotted fruit and veggies from super market dumpsters in Boone. The horses are for show and giving buggy rides to donors, he owns trucks, tractors and a backhoe for real work. He has just scammed his way through life and now he has been caught. Check out the Turtle Island website and see for yourself what he charges for the “teaching” he gives, the cheapest is $90 for a workshop on how to carve a wooden spoon.

  24. Marie says:

    So what let them man live how he wants why do you even care?

  25. Jeff says:

    Uh, you know this is bullshit TV right? Eustace Conway is a lucrative business man that charges people hundreds of dollars to camp on his land and hundreds of dollars to take his “classes” on spoon carving and log cabin building right? That shit you see on the TV show is scripted and (poorly) acted out.

    • Irish Bob says:

      Eustace is a jerk. Last year I watched him put two different young men in no win situations just to berate them when they failed. He tells the guy to cut the log in half knowing he would bind the chain saw up because of the way the log was laying, then carries on about having a valuable saw ruined. Tonights show he blamed the new helper for logs jamming up down in the creek when it was his buddys fault. He has a giant ego and turns every tiny task into a giant undertaking in his small mind expecting that his audience will be all amazed that he was able to get the “impossible” done. He addresses every task as if it is a monumental undertaking. I mute my TV when his section comes on because he gags he shit outta me.

  26. Dan Adams says:

    How much money do these people get paid to do the mountain men show? The thing I like about the show is the scenery and wild life not the people or the story line! The one think in common with all of them is they are always trying to beat the clock, they are always having to do everything or they might not make, they need to plan a little better or they could not live off the grid as they say!

  27. Kevin says:

    His name should be Con-man not Conway. After the History Channel cameras go off the old tools go into the shed and the modern ones come out. He is a fraud making tons of money.

  28. Michael says:

    Is it me, or does anyone else question whether Eustice & his helper really built the canoe in a few or even several days given the tools he possesses? I’ve done considerable woodworking over the last 45 years & don’t buy he made the entire canoe!

  29. Russ says:

    We have lost our freedoms and we have NOT even noticed it! Hitler’s son Obama, love taking away our freedoms and enjoy pushing their crap down our throats. If we don’t act now, it will B 2 late to act later!!

  30. Lauren says:

    Who seriously cares about all this arguing? I enjoyed the show and found all the Mountainmen guys very entertaining. I never thought about it true or false it was fun to watch. Bottom line.

  31. Ron says:

    “When did it become acceptable for the government to intimidate someone off their land? When did it become acceptable for the government to tell us how we can live on our own land?”
    Ha! Seriously? Anyone familiar with what was done with the various Indian tribes? They were totally self-sufficient and forced to become totally dependent on the US govt. The govt is just doing it to everyone else. If you have some time, watch Ken Burns’ “The West”. This country has done a lot of dipsh!t stuff and it just continues to do so, just bigger and more pervasive.

    • T says:

      Unless you have allodial ownership/title, you don’t actually own your land. You get to pay for it over the course of 25-40 years, at interest which allows you to pay, what 3-4 times the purchase price? But you don’t own it.

      How about that.

      • Kalispellian says:

        T….Thats simply not true. It is a common, modern, misconception that the bank owns your property until paid in full. Immediately following funding a Deed of Trust is recorded with the county in the name of the property owner. A subsequent document(s) is/are then recorded detailing any and all liens or notes attached to said property. In the case of default the note/lien holder must then go through either judicial or non-judicial processes in order to assume ownership and must prove legal standing to do so. Any old timer can define “Deed” far more accurately than the brainwashed public these days. These criminal banks have attempted to hijack our centuries old systems of title.

        • Tower guy says:

          It depends on the state. Some states are “lien theory” states which means that you do not own the property until it has been paid off. In “title theory” states, you own the property unless it is foreclosed upon, or otherwise taken through legal process.

  32. GREG says:


  33. T says:

    We should all go off grid and they can go flog themselves, opus dei style.

    Crazy mothers.

  34. Ricky says:

    Learn your rights. Their ‘statutes and bylaws’ don’t apply to non-government employee’s. Learn and enforce your natural rights. Remove yourself from the system.

  35. nig says:

    Eustace you need to return all mail unopened if possible to government within 3 days of receiving mail from them and do NOT enter “any” verbal discussions with any of them. If they come on your land with requests tell them you will comply if they “DOCUMENT AND VERIFY THE OBLIGATION” Put RTS sticker over the window of all envelopes and return them to sender. Below is exact wording..

    NO LIABILITY  when signing anything (everything) always sign with by:yourname continue drawing a half circle from last letter of the signature underneath and back through the by. This is a conditional signature and a way of letting them know in no uncertain terms that your sovereign.. Good luck buddy..!

  36. omen says:

    Of course what the government is doing is fascist but this serves as yet another lesson. Go on TV or publicize what you are doing and you risk the gestapo coming in to put you down. Beware, be cautious and be vigilant.

  37. Willard Aztec says:

    It’s hard to take people seriously when they spell like a 1st grader. That goes for most of you. Learn how to read and write before sounding off.

  38. Jr. H says:

    If you where to meet this man you would then understand what and why he is having the problems he is! He’s nothing but about money! Plain and simple! My wife loved him to death before she met him and afterwards is a very different story! I can not watch Mt Men now on account of it. He’s nothing like the man on TV! I know some of the things are blown out of shape on the show just didn’t realize he was such an Azz-Hole!

    • JD in NY says:

      I watched the first season and several times I commented to my wife that he was an ass hole. First, he had someone else site-in his weapon, as anyone who has used a weapon you don’t have someone else site your weapon. I was an expert in the army and an armorer and If I handed you a weapon I could knock down the 300 meter target with every time, that doesn’t mean squat if someone else uses that weapon to shoot with.
      Second, if your neighbor is doing something on his land you don’t approve of (but is legal) you can’t do squat about it but put up signs saying what you think.
      Just because you live off grid isn’t a reason to act the fool.

      • JD in NY says:

        Oh, I forgot. He also said he decided to take his horse into town rather than a truck, so all that BS about the cars and his skittish horse, was just that – BS. He made a choice to travel by horse and did you see the mile of cars behind them?

  39. Wayne says:

    All of the current issues we face can be distilled down to the ideologies of two men: Thomas Malthus and George Fitzhugh.

    Malthus convinced the elites there were too many people and the herd needs to be culled and managed.

    Fitzhugh showed them that a few men are born to be kings and the rest need to be enslaved for their own good.

    All of this was born in the age of Slavery by men who thought themselves to be gods.

  40. darude says:

    It’s funny they say the county officials has been there before, observing it and then approved that there wasn’t a problem back then, however, now, years later, when the US is in trouble and people trying to escape the system, trying to live off-grid, NOW they realize they have to do something about it. I’m telling you all, its too late for that. Change is coming, be prepared.

  41. yankeegal52 says:

    All I can say is that it’s a good thing no one ever “raided” my Girl Scout Camp back in the 1960s – because my tent didn’t have running water and we had to use an outhouse.

    How does any campground survive this “agenda”? Answer: it can’t. So what happens to all the campgrounds that don’t have cabins with running water and indoor plumbing and electricity?

    Will they all have to be shut down? Hundreds of thousands of people, from kids to adults, will be sorry to hear that.

    I think Agenda 21 is being used for nefarious purposes in the form of personal agendas and get rich schemes – by stealing other people’s properties and forcing them to pay money for electricity, water, etc. –

    It should be everyone’s right to do their own cost-benefit analysis and make their own decision as to how they wish to live.

    Are we living in a free country? Or a totalitarian or fascist State?

  42. drake765620 says:

    Our government is nothing more than modern age Mafia. Our government will be facing another civil war if they do not back down.

  43. Ash says:

    If a man has land and is not on any disability or warfare then what f/#king right does anybody have to tell him how he can live or gov is a greedy piece of shit the handful of people that do live like this is not going hurt them fkn immigration is what’s breaking this country

  44. coy says:

    how can I come out and live with, help out so i can learn?

    • cm says:

      only one way, he must be paid in the currency of the govt., he has contempt for, he uses stupid hippies for unpaid labor, (he accepts payments, he refuses to make payments) pay for the one-eyed kid, he and his empire hurt, by sending him cash. problem is you send him cash and he tells the one-eyed kid, sorry punk I’m the victim here, look the govt. is mad at me.

  45. Ray V says:

    Fuck the government. They want to control every part of your life but when the shit hits the fan – AND IT’S GOING TO, will they have your back NO!! Wake up people and prep. Do what you got to do Get what you need to get. Survive!

    • cm says:

      so are you saying the kid who got his eye poked out on his hippie commune, who eustice agreed to pay,(settlement), is shit out of luck, or can his dad come and put a red hot steel rod to eustice,(eye for an eye), so the govt. is helping make eustice pay his obligation to the boy, so shit does NOT hit the fan, hey ray v if I poke your boys eye out, and the boogy-govt. came to make me pay, how in your tiny mind am I a victim, instead of the one eyed boy. you may call eustice a victim, but his freedom did not hurt a child his reckless endangerment did, this is your hero, a child crippler, who settles(agrees) to make it good, and then says screw the boy, as his defender ray you seem to think one eye is fine,need help removeing one of yours, I will help you, I got a sharp stick, and a map to turtle island.

  46. James Horn says:

    I find it funny how sites such as this can cause such a stir by reporting a false story. Eustace is loosing his land because he feels he is above the law and doesn’t need to pay taxes on his business. To date Eustace is wor the a reported 1.3 million dollars, but cannot $80,000 in income taxes. He is not above the law.

  47. My Opinion says:

    I lived at Turtle Island for 1 year. I know Eustace Conway and his girlfriend Desere as well. The 2 of them run Turtle Island, excluding all others.

    My experience was very similar to most interns who go to Turtle Island to try and help. I realize that this may sound a bit dramatic, but those of you out there who have interned at Turtle Island will know exactly what I mean…. I feel like I have been permanently scarred by the experience. I should have read the book before I went there. I feel like I could write a book about my experience.

    I just want to be clear about one thing before I share …..I don’t hate Eustace or his girlfriend Desere. Contributing to this thread gives me an opportunity to share my experiences. How do I feel about Eustace Conway and Desere now that I am no longer at Turtle Island? I feel very sorry for them both. They are both irreparably damaged inside. Eustace as the narcissist and Desere plays the perpetual victim and supporter of his ongoing tragic behavior. It is actually a very sad thing to witness.

    They are living in a state of vicious co-dependency and neither of them is happy. Eustace admits that Desere is not the girl for him, and Desere knows this but clings to him anyways.

    Both Eustace and Desere have left a wide trail of broken relationships behind them. I am actually very surprised that more interns have not taken the time to write about their experiences. I know for a fact I am not the only one who has been scarred by their experience.

    I will agree completely with the other “intern” on AMAZON who started a very long conversation ….. He told the truth…..the man seen by employees and the man seen by visitors and guests are totally different and Gilbert’s description of his interns’ disillusionment hardly scratches the surface.

    Eustace did live naturally when he was young, but now he is living a lie, the other intern who posted was correct on all counts. Turtle Island Preserve is not what people think it is. (but it could be) The farm is not productive and they do not grow their own food, there are leaking rusty old cars and trailers everywhere in front of his house, which by the way is on the grid, powered by electricity.
    He is not environmentally conscious at all, not even a little bit. He really doesn’t even understand sustainability.

    I think the worst part about my internship was when the animals would die from improper care. Neglect and ignorance run rampant at Turtle Island. Eustace have even less empathy for the animals than he does for other people. YES, livestock routinely die from neglect at Turtle Island. I watched so many animals go without getting the proper care. I have seen them die, injured, in distress.. Eustace is stubborn about the animals, he always puts everything else above their needs. Animals do not have it easy at Turtle Island. Even his own dog runs away from him….I am not saying that to be funny, this is a true fact…his dog splits every chance he gets. The dogs get fed ( if and when they get fed) rotten meat.

    Food –Turtle Island DOES NOT produce most of its food…He will never run out of onions or kale, but for the most part, we used to get cast offs from grocery stores, and donations from visitors. We would go once a week and shop for the rest of the food we needed. When the kids come to summer camp, the food for them is bought at the local WALMART. Eustace does not want to waste his meat on them.

    He rides around on a motorcycle, not a horse and he splits his wood with a splitter. The other intern was correct, we had to BEG to do things with primitive tools, because Eustace feels it takes too much time. He was never around to teach us anything because he was too busy doing his own things, apart from Turtle Island.

    TRUE –Eustace treats the wood of his house and truck beds by painting them with a mixture of diesel and motor oil without any attempt to keep it from leaching into the soil.

    TRUE –Interns spend the majority of their time fixing cars or building his new house as free labor, NOT learning primitive/sustainable living skills. Eustace is the founder of a non-profit, but the volunteers that were there always ended up working on Eustace’s personal jobs to make him $, not Turtle Island and Desere turns a blind eye even though she knows it is wrong. An example of this is his wood cutting business. That is a personal business, but he gets the volunteers to do the work. He is not preserving the mountain so much as developing it, building illegal roads, ( I know because I helped him) , cutting down trees, annoying the hell out his neighbors. .

    TRUE –Interns are seldom allowed to use simple tools, because Eustace feels they waste too much time. Any “primitive” living must be done on their own time.

    TRUE –Horses are hardly used for anything other than buggy rides for tourists and occasionally plowing fields and cutting grass. They stand in a stall all day long and at night they graze.

    TRUE –Eustace owns and regularly operates bulldozers, backhoes, and industrial-size dump trucks to clear forest for roads, buildings, and anything else he can think of. I would consider him a “hoarder”.

    TRUE–Eustace’s home is surrounded by rusting trucks, cars, horse trailers, etc., most of which do not run or function at all. I counted 60 cars, not to mention the numerous trailers strewn throughout the surrounding forest. Piles of car batteries sit exposed and leaking in the forest amongst the cars behind the house.

    NOT TRUE — Worst of all, INTERNS ARE EXPECTED TO LIE TO THE PUBLIC about these things in order to keep the illusion of “primitive living” at Turtle Island.

    The fact is, interns are not asked to lie…but Eustace has a way of making people love him at the beginning, and so interns just automatically want to defend him. Anyone who has met him can feel his charm and knows what I am talking about.

    Mountain Men – Preston makes up most of the stories and then the two of them act it out. It
    is staged of course, this is no surprise I am sure. I remember one season of Mountain Men, he said he owed money ($80,000) in land taxes. This story was not true. It was made up for the tv show and I think Eustace was hoping to make some money by getting people to feel sorry for him.

    Just because Eustace and Desere are tragically flawed does not make them horrible people. They are just broken, like many people in this world. They are living their own little dream, “using” whomever they can to make it happen.

    I can still say that when people come to visit TIP , they can still find magic….but not BECAUSE of Desere and Eustace, but DESPITE Desere and Eustace. People seem to have this ideal image of what TIP is all about…but they really have no idea. No one does except for those of us who lived there with him day in and day out. It is like the Wizard of OZ, and Eustace and Desere are behind the curtain dictating to everyone, showing one face to the public but hiding their true face behind the curtain.

    TIP has the potential to be an amazing place. It just needs someone else to run it, because Eustace really doesn’t know how.

  48. Southbound says:

    I am a southern born Ga girl who went the USAF and was in Qatar for the first Gulf War. I love this site and I go to it everyday. Here is where it’s tricky. I am a gun toting, conservative who loves Family, God,dogs,beer and bbq.The twist, I am a lesbian. I believe in the Golden Rule and live and let live. I’ve had it with govt,I support the military and the Constitution. I agree I don’t believe in Gay marriage though in our defense check out the divorce rate among straight American couples. Not a really good percentage. Everyone who pays taxes should have the same rights. If you don’t like it I shouldn’t have to pay the same. I’m good with that. Now the purpose of this post is does anyone have an acre or two, no more than two in TN or NC, or ideally North Ga that you will sell me? I have always wanted to disappear for numerous reasons but I’m ready to do it. I’ve been reading about the crime in the mountains also off gridoers building huge compound that become huge targets. A creek or spring would be ideal and if anyone comes on my property to hurt me or my hound family I’ll protect us. I’m a Crack shot thanks to a single Mom and a great papa. God Bless everyone, those of us left who earn what they have, believe in the Constitution and family and friends come first. Oh I am recently single because though I was born a lesbian, turns out I’m not good at it. Well what I can talk about that is.Unapologetically American War veteran. I fought for all American’s Rights but believe nothing is free and I don’t owe anyone a dam thing unless it’s the American Indian, Creek specifically.

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