ATF to monitor Gun Owners with Drones: Attorney General confirms ATF to buy Fleet of Domestic Drones

At a House Judiciary Committee hearing today, Attorney General Eric Holder confirmed that The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) was in the process of building a fleet of domestic drones.

In sworn testimony, Holder confirmed that the ATF has already spent over $600,000 on the program, and is in the process of trying to bring the drones into their surveillance arsenal.

Last year we reported on how the maker of the Shadowhawk drone was actively promoting its technology as a way to monitor citizens who carry guns. Now it looks like we have another government agency planning on using this technology to do exactly that.

Holder told the committee, “Within the Department, the only component that uses these vehicles at this point is the FBI,” … “The ATF in the process of working through to see if they want to make use of them.”

But as we’ve reported in the past, there are actually a number of agencies within the federal government who are already operating their own fleets of drones for domestic surveillance. In fact, last year the Department of Homeland Security confirmed they were purchasing a fleet of Predator B Drones for homeland operations – the same drones that are used in the skies over Afghanistan.

Around the same time, the State of Nebraska told the world that the EPA was using drones to spy on state farmers. It was later confirmed by EPA officials, who said they were looking for people violating the Clean Water Act.

35 Comments

  1. Curtis
    April 9, 2014 at 9:54 am

    Can we please vote everyone out. This is getting out of hand

    • Rulie Haveman
      April 11, 2014 at 6:38 am

      this is a clearcut declaration of war from the US government against the US citizens.

      • Gregory Lesniewski
        September 17, 2014 at 11:43 am

        At what altitude do they operate at?

    • Ben
      April 11, 2014 at 9:02 am

      If voting actually counted, It would be made illegal

      • Pink Swan
        April 11, 2014 at 5:27 pm

        “Everyone votes for a dictator.”

        “It doesn’t matter who the people voted for; they voted for us.” Stalin

  2. jimcolomas
    April 9, 2014 at 12:25 pm

    defund all these alphabet agencies

  3. Josh
    April 9, 2014 at 6:52 pm

    Serious question. What can we do, this is ridiculous. There has to be something..

    • fossilknight
      April 9, 2014 at 9:51 pm

      If you really don’t like it, buy your own civilian drone. Or leave America if all you want to do is complain. Far to many people on this site complain about our current situation yet do nothing to change it. America doesn’t need any more lazy, whiny people. Get out if your not going to help change things.

      • Al
        April 10, 2014 at 7:53 am

        And Mr. Dickhead fossilknight, exactly what do you do?

      • Django
        April 10, 2014 at 1:45 pm

        what a lazy, whiny reply you gave fk.

      • dave
        April 11, 2014 at 4:24 am

        WHAT do you expect people to DO about this stuff ?? I’d LOVE to FIRE Eric Holder !! I’d LOVE to impeach Obimbo !! I’d LOVE to throw out of office EVERY damned DemoCRAP !! But, I have no power to do any of these things. I vote, but that accomplishes next to NOTHING !!!

      • Bob
        April 11, 2014 at 5:32 am

        Rebel cast out the rulers

        The above declaration recognized that the people as the ultimate judges of their destiny, can resort to revolution as a matter of right. As has been
        aptly said “of all the established forms of government, democracy is the only one which recognized the inherent right of the people to cast out their rulers,
        change their policy or effect institutions by force or general uprising when the legal and constitutional methods of making such changes have proved inadequate or so obstructed as to be unavailable,” the right to rebel is an elemental human right just as the right to repress rebellion as an elemental public right.

      • walty
        April 11, 2014 at 1:09 pm

        Stop whining and tell these people what they can do to fix this- or go away yourself.
        Have no ideas do you?
        I’ll give you one; Stop their paychecks and funding by not paying taxes to support this.
        At least half the population must do this for it to work.

    • Mike F.
      April 10, 2014 at 8:16 pm

      Stock up on food, water, guns and gold. Organize locally for mutual benefit and survival. I hate to say it, but that’s where this is going.

    • Phillip Gill
      April 22, 2014 at 12:54 am

      When and if you ever see a drone and its in range, shoot that mf out of the sky!!!

  4. Stealth Spaniel
    April 10, 2014 at 6:50 pm

    Well, looks like target practice is going to be supplied by the ATF and the EPA. Better order those extra powerful sights now before the rush is on.
    With the desert activity in Nevada, and the Elijah Cummins’ new email coming to light, things look to go hot very soon! Every so often, it is neccessary to clean the vermin from the outhouse, and I guess that time has come. Mr. Holder will claim racial prejudice, but it has nothing to do with skin color but rather the color of your character. Government has now decided to weaponize all discussion, and of course, the patriots will follow suit. God Bless to all of my fellow citizens.

    • 1776 part 2
      April 10, 2014 at 9:11 pm

      Exactly. Its time to rise up against these tyrants. They may think they have removed God fearing patriots from this nation but they have not. Im armed with His word and my trusty AR. Come and take em.

      • Not Saying You're Wrong But...
        April 11, 2014 at 2:45 pm

        Do you realize that the violence often suggested to counter tyranny could be the “spark” that those tyrants have planned?

        Wouldn’t a violent response on the behalf of the people (do not confuse with the state) to this, or say, the Bundy Ranch standoff be pretense to start coming down on any who oppose with “justifiable force” (swat, paramil, ntl guard, etc?). They do this already with agent provocateurs at protests.

        The act of fending off tyrannical government could justify it in their script and people are too hypnotized by MSM to know any better. This is a dim situation.

  5. Pallaton
    April 10, 2014 at 8:59 pm

    Time for this Commie bastard to be put out of his misery!!!

  6. Dave
    April 10, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    The only solution is for the U.S. to break up! We are no longer united around the U.S. Constitution or anything else that defined the “United States”. The U.S. has out lived its usefulness, and is now pretty much the biggest danger the world faces!

  7. Dave
    April 10, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    And, I’m sorry, but this is not fixable!

  8. Dave
    April 10, 2014 at 9:40 pm

    Let washington, new york, connecticut, maryland, massachusetts, and any other like minded states have at it, while the rest of the country splinters off of the foolishness that is washington!

  9. Dave
    April 10, 2014 at 9:43 pm

    There is not a single problem in this country that can’t be blamed on the federal government! They are the only problem! They need to be dissolved! The easiest way to do that is for the states to leave them behind!

  10. Nam Marine
    April 11, 2014 at 12:42 am

    Hopefully we can find a way to stop them !

    • CXJ
      April 11, 2014 at 6:40 am

      Amen Heath B…. Amen!

  11. Heath B.
    April 11, 2014 at 2:10 am

    It’s all in the BIBLE…Jesus is so close to His return but many will not listen. This world has gotten really bad. Sun that use to be consider bad the world now excepts as good. Turn to Jesus and away from the world. Do you know next week is a blood moon. Only 2 other times has this been recorded. But the Bible speaks of the days we are living as the end. Look at what Acts says and also about the moon. (Acts 2:17-20) – 17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

    18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

    19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

    20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come.

    Cry out to Jesus to save you. If you have a heart that’s sorry for the sin you’ve commited against God, ask Him to forgive you and Turn away from that sin. Jesus really loves you and wants to Save you. He is the “ONLY WAY”. There is no other!!! Call on Him and see for yourself. You don’t have to be afraid of what’s about to happen on earth. God Bless all who reads and believes His True Word. His Grace, Mercy, and Forgivness is offered to everyone upon the earth who will believe and repent of their sins.

    • CXJ
      April 11, 2014 at 6:38 am

      Dave you are sorry all right. The out of control government needs to be changed. Why are you throwing the baby out with the bath water. If you’re a man prepare to fight or are you afraid? The United States has been hijacked by the Oligarchy. Do you think the American people are condoning the countless U.S. military operations around the world? But, more importantly if the freemen of this nation cave in to this rogue government and the oligarchy the rest of the world, who is hanging on by a threat of hope, will be lost. The American Patriot is the last great hope of the world as to whether America is meanly saved or sorely lost. “…bye, bye American pie, sold my Chevy and went to the levy…” I know you’re not a coward, but show some backbone son. There are worse things then dying. Good day.

    • delores
      April 11, 2014 at 3:54 pm

      Amen, Heath, The Lord is truly coming back soon.
      He is warning this country, The nation of Israel said they wanted a King, so he gave them kings, when the nation served God the kings were good godly kings, but when they disobeyed God, they receive bad kings. We are reaping what this nation has shown, just look at out leadership. I pray our nations eyes will be opened, and turn back to the ways of the Lord.

  12. jeff drew
    April 11, 2014 at 2:23 am

    A nationwide collective refusal to file federal income tax by the people…would it make a dent, yep. However, the clay feet populous are too beaten down, to make any concerted effort, also too fearful of…wait for it…an audit
    if they were stir the pot.
    That sucking sound IS America circling the drain…there were numerous chances to beat this back, but your new device did precisely what it was designed & intended to do…distract and preoccupy…no one to blame but yourselves, last clarion call were the 2010 mid-terms, a complicit media along with 6 years of corruption & attrition have closed down this experiment. Jeff Foxworthy nailed it…America, created by geniuses, destroyed by morons.

  13. Bill
    April 11, 2014 at 4:22 am

    Drones and/or Quadcopters are game changers – they will work their way into EVERY aspect of our lives and it is unmanageable where this will go and how fast it will happen. There has never been a technology with such wide spread capabilities – good and bad, Drones can take photos and videos that negatively affect the second and fourth amendment as this article says or can carry a life saving or life destroying pay load. They can deliver products much faster and much greener than ever before just for the cost of charging a battery. They overfly farm fields to improve farming as well as catch violations like growing weed that destroys our kids. Mr. Holder’s arrogance is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to what our government has in mind, keeping in mind that the government employs folks with unprecedented arrogance and stupidity, like our Mr. Holder and keep an eye on the FAA, they are just getting warmed up.

  14. William Rothschild
    April 11, 2014 at 5:25 am

    It looks like the government is giving us new targets to shoot at.

  15. Defiant
    April 11, 2014 at 7:43 am

    I don’t like drones.

    Having said that, I also know they aren’t going anywhere. It’s just not news when a LE agency obtains, and publicizes it’s plans to use, drones.

    Just like EVERY LE agency has and uses helicopters, they’ll now use drones. They’re just like helicopters but smaller, cheaper to operate, and convenient.

    Again, I’m not defending drone-use by LE. I’m just pointing out that since the tech is widely available and VERY nicely tailored to LE use…they’re GOING to use them.

  16. Carnac 123
    April 11, 2014 at 8:01 am

    We have a rogue, anti-American government ruling us. It is armed to the teeth and will gladly use those arms against us. We must arm ourselves and one day,… rebel. We did it before and we will do it again. These are not the days where we will line up and shoot at each other. These are the days of guerrilla war and we can do that for 100 years if need be. Remember, ‘the tree of liberty needs to be watered periodically with the blood of tyrants and patriots. We are lazy and we have watched our riches squandered, our army usurped, our workers out of jobs, and our rights trampled on. Enough is enough. We must rid ourselves of tyrants right here in this country.

  17. Animalaura
    April 12, 2014 at 4:08 pm

    And now the ATF will have THEIR own fleet of drones. What next?? IRS?? NSA?? CIA Blackwater?
    And they can’t use their funding to stop illegal aliens or jihadists coming across the border with suitcase nukes… but they can use predator drones on American Citizens and spy on family farms.
    Is that it??

  18. Cherokeetony
    April 26, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    This THE MOST UN-Constitutional act to date in the horrific, tyrannical, terroristic reign of this “regime” called political leadership this Nation has EVER seen!!! Just what are they going to be watching!? gun owners using their guns to protect their lives and property? Or using their guns to go hunting to put food in their refrigerators!?!? What a cluster FU-K!!! QUIT WASTING OUR TAX DOLLARS ON STUFF THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR NATIONAL DEFENSE!!! Send the drones the borders and the Obama placed KNOWN officials that have had ties to one terrorist group or another!!! NOT LAW ABIDING CITIZENS!!! This is NOT going to end in a nice peaceful way (like “WE THE PEOPLE” want it to) if you bunch of IDIOTS keep on ignoring OUR Constitution and Bills of Rights, but for some odd reason…this is what I truly believe you want to happen, is the NEEDLESS bloodshed of INNOCENT PATRIOTIC AMERICANS who by all they believe in WILL STAND AND FIGHT TO THE BITTER END!!! PLEASE STAND DOWN! BEFORE THE UNSPEAKABLE IS FORCED TO HAPPEN!!! UNITED WE WILL STAND!!!!!

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