California legislators are in the process of rolling out what will be the strictest gun control laws in the country. Democrat state Legislatures rolled out a list of proposals that will instantly criminalize most of the state’s law abiding gun owners.
The new law would outlaw all semiautomatic weapons, criminalize anyone who has more than 500 rounds of ammo, and require a permit to buy ammunition in the future. California, which already has some of the strictest gun control laws in the country, is also looking at a proposal which would call for the immediate confiscation of 166,000 registered modern sporting rifles. This is why people are against Registration!
Darrell Steinberg, D-Sacramento, unveiled the gun control package in a news conference Thursday at the state Capitol.
The package includes:
- Banning the possession — not just manufacture and sale — of magazines holding more than 10 rounds.
- Making possession of hollow point bullets and similar “assault bullets” a felony.
- Requiring anyone wishing to buy ammunition to first get a permit by passing a background check.
- Requiring the registration and reporting of all ammo purchases. Limits the number of rounds anyone can have at one time to 500 rounds.
- Requiring all gun owners will have to be licensed like drivers, and will be forced to carry gun liability insurance.
- Banning any gun that has a detachable magazine, and requires a 100% prohibition of all fixed magazines greater than 10 rounds.
- Making all previous grandfathered magazines become illegal, and it will become a felony if you keep one.
- Prohibiting anyone barred from owning a weapon from living in a home where weapons are kept
- Expanding the list of crimes that would bar a person from gun possession.
- Letting the state Justice Department use money from the state’s Dealer’s Record of Sale system to eliminate the backlog of people identified as no longer allowed to own guns but not yet investigated and contacted by law enforcement.
from what I’ve seen on the news the people doing the shootings have some kind of a mental problem. I think Cal. is way overboard and going in the wrong direction.
Sacramento politicians have some kind of mental problem, same as the mass-shooters.
i have many remedies for mental illness they all move really fast just how politicians like in fast to the point and bad for you
That mental illness is called “Liberalism”.
That mental illness is called Obama !!!
Seems to me, a targeted approach to gun violence would be to ban liberal progressive democrats from owning firearms. All of these psychos fall within this category. I seriously can’t understand why anyone lives in this state.
If your theory were accurate than this mental illness afflicted Reagan and Bush 1. Bush 1 renounced his NRA membership and supported Clintons ban along with Ronnie the great. You have only yourselves to blame.
Wayne LaPierre and Ronald Reagan initiated the last weapons ban that exists today.
Please check your facts.
Call Obama what you will… this country just let him take complete control.
There should be a ban on liberals…. being a liberal should be an immediate felony
Obama is simptom of this ilness
Liberalism is mental illnes
Vote the sorry bastards out of office, I bet there guards won’t give up there, low life bastards, Somebody needs to stick a gun up his ass and put a gun in his hands and tell him to call the police or pull the trigger, This is not the constitution at all. These people are complete idiots…..
ray burke are you the archery from Univ of long beach in the 70’s if so this is ray guise been looking form you for years. if not sorry but if you stay there these socalled political people will tear you down get out asap.
I hate California and the folks that are running the state. Ms Kamala Harris thinks she can import the same rules as she did while being a “tough” District Attorney, to other states. I own 5 AR 15s and 160 Colt mags (all 30 rounders) and will not give them up for any reason. I recalled Mr Obama stating that he “supported” the Second when he said his dad bought him a .22 rifle when he was 12 yrs old. What a joke. Pro gunners , stand your ground : “in order to bring down a bad guy with a gun, you need a good guy with a gun”
The mere fact that nearly all of those proposals are in fact unconstitutional.
Kommiefornia has a 2A in its charter.
The SCOTUS has confirmed the banning of in “common use” unconstitutional.
It is also illegal to charge a fee, require a permit or license to exercise an enumerated right.
I agree, and the same laws they try to shove down our throats they get as well. And not one time did the liberal media call the weapon used to shoot two women in a “truck that looked like Dorner’s” an assault rifle. And “who needs training” , if you as a civilian have a negligent discharge you are in big trouble, what is wrong with this picture
don’t you ever ask yourself how in a 2 months there was so much mass shootings and why they are trying to give you gun control laws so fast? don’t give them your guns.. they will make you slaves..
That mental illness is called Progressive-ism. Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to own cars.
Two points for you!!! Best analogy I’ve heard in a while
Amen!
It’s like a FB picture i saw that says we don’t need firearms because we have the Police is like saying we don’t need fire extinguishers because we have the Fire Department
I will be using your analogy often. Great
Well put my friend, I may have.to use that analogy from now on.
Excellent analogy. Sharing!
Steinberg needs some targeted, single unit therapy.This man is more danger to the state and US Constitution and Bill of Rights than firearms will ever be.
Commifornia has all the answers lol. Dumbasses.
No its called the top 5% trying to protect us from ourselves. They should just get up a bubble to live in. It has nothing to do with Liberalism. They use Liberalism to get elected but they really do not live by the word. They are selfish assholes.
you got it!!
Exactly!!
Actually, it’s called leftism. Like everything else the leftist have, the term liberal was stolen or hijacked if you so choose. If you read history, many of the founders identified as liberals
Demwits , not having an original thought, can only steal or plagerize their ideas.
Send Bachelors and come heavily armed.
Yeah they are all Left wing freedom hating, anti christian Nut cases
Republicans refuse any law that helps the needy, those that stockpile weapons tend to be registered Republicans and conservatives are constantly trying to remove the freedoms of anyone that doesn’t live under the life code that they, themselves dictate. And you call liberals anti-christian, freedom hating, nut cases?? Jesus would never vote Republican. They go against everything dictated in the bible to help others! You’re a flippin’ idiot! Ha ha
conservatives are the only ones trying to stay free not regulate social engineering. And Jesus wouldn’t vote for either party. The only party promoting anything against religion is the liberal Democrat party. ACA! And by calling others names it really supports your interpretation of the bible or christian views. Nice work.
Hey Cori you know scripture says if you dont work you dont eat!2nd Thessalonians 3:10.My own opinion but the Bible believes in taking care of the widow and orphan not lazy people!King Solomon was very harsh on lazy people in Proverbs and I can see why!
republicans don’t refuse to help the needy. They refuse to continuously give money to people that are too lazy to get up off their butt and get a job. I grew up poor and my family used government aid as a hand-up (which is what it was designed to do) and not a hand out. Now my parents and several family members have stable jobs and hasn’t been sucking off the tit of the government like all these Obama loving fools.
So Cori, which gov. Assistance program do you get.
You’re both doing a great job of killing this country. Liberals, Conservatives, Democricans, Republicrats, you are fighting over a sinking ship, instead of patching the holes and bailing water. I am SO sick of it.
Like murdering babies like you liberals. You and your friends are in for a hot rude awakening when you die. Conservatives are much more charitable than liberals. Liberals call government theft , charity, taxation is theft.
Cori,
Name one liberal policy, aspiration du jour, or law that has resulted in the betterment of our country, state, or the world for that matter. Gun control being only one. I will rebut every one for you.
Poor Cori you also flunked Bible study or your a fool
It doesn’t matter if you are Republican or Democrat, it’s our right! Read the 2nd Ammendment!!! The last time I checked…….I am American! “No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government”
— Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
Cory are you a idiot. Republicans are not passing laws because the democrats are trying to take are rights away like the NDAA treaty or how about the CRPD Treaty. Did you now that every Democrat voted to take my rights a parent away from my child under the CRPD Treaty and give that right to the U.N. And that the U.N. has all rights under the supremacy clause and that no state or federal judge can over turn their decision. Why would I support/ or anyone one in this great nation support a party to take your rights away. With that it sounds like you are not educated on are government and what they are doing to us. They don’t care because they done have to follow the same laws they right there own. Then crap on us. That’s way there medical insurance is different than Obamacare. Educate your self before comparing these things to the bible.
Cori, I’ll bet 10 gazillion dollars republicans donate more money to charitable causes than democrats do.
Cori, Learn to read. More importantly learn history. The Republican’s were the ones (under President Lincoln) who were responsible for the start of equality of all men (13th amendment). The Democrats were the ones trying to stop it. The fact is in the last five years the democratic party has done more damage to this country than any external enemy could.
AH so forcing people to help others at the end of the barrel of a gun is what Jesus would want?
And you know how Jesus would vote? For a lesbian Marxist pathogical liar? Stfu.
The bible says to give to others with your own money and your free will. It doesnt say anything about a government taking your money and making you give it away. That is not freedom of choice, you are trying to make people be good by controling them, i believe the bible calls that slavery.
I just want to know if the high and mighty legislators are the ones going down to the barrios, the ghettos, and the other less than gated community areas to take the weapons from the gangbangers who inhabit said areas? I don’t think so!
Jesus would NEVER vote Democrat. Jesus was not a leftist nor a socialist.
The government is supposed to be hands off, both in the positive and negative sense. If people want to help the needy, they should do it themselves instead of being forced at gunpoint to hand over their hard earned money.
Your out of your mind the republicans are against abortion plus they are the ones upholding and fighting the democrats for our constitutional rights. Look before you post some off the wall comment please make sure you have your facts straight. The beginning of 911 was being put together by Islamic radicals during the Clinton administration. The democrats of this country are backing socialism open your eyes. The Democrat party is not for the people they are for themselves. They have one thing and one thing only they are determined to to take our rights as citizens away.
Wow, are you serious? Demwits are the ones who ignore the Bible unless it fits their narrative at the time
I won’t go into listing the verses, but the Bible clearly states that we all have the right to protect ourselves
And riddle me this, since demwits are the party of all things queer and abortion, how can you make those statements with a straight face? We only have 10 commandments to follow, but demwits have either ignored or rewritten to serve the purpose , uhm let’s see, all them of them. Don’t worry tho, your God has reserved a special place for you. I do hope you like it hot tho.
Haha! I’m really happy to see that you know Jesus, but to have actually communicated in a way with him, that he was able to tell you he would never vote Republican? Now that right there shows some severe mental illness, lol. And just before that sentence, you said “you call liberals anti-christian, freedom hating nut cases?” What the hell are you talking about. One sentence you talk about anti-christian, and seem to be for that, and the next sentence you tell what Jesus would vote. Who’s the nut case?
And yet, somehow the mentally ill don’t even make up 1/111119th of the murderers in the USA. By world standards….45 of the worlds top 50 most dangerous cities is in the USA. If Murders go by the way of the mentally ill….Washington DC must be chocked full of them. How ’bout the government lead by cleaning their own city before trying to play nation builders. DC leads the nation in almost every statistic violent crime wise.
Stormy, you are right. DC is full of mentally ill people. The proof of that is a congress crazy enough to think that banning an inanimate object will stop the violence that PEOPLE do. California needs to stop perpetuating a lie. The term “assault weapon” is a term coined by the media. The only true assault weapon is a fully automatic one or one that fires an explosive projectile. None of which are available to the general public. Either they need to pass legislation that requires the police to protect the people (right now the police have no duty to do so according to the Supreme Court) or the need sweeping reform of the mental health care industry. I also think that they should start trying to fix their economy (they have been basically bankrupt for years) and maybe create some jobs. Stop trying to love the bad stuff out of criminals and start locking people up and try to reform them. The problem is that all of these things are hard and would actually require them to think and do some work.
While.most if what you said is spot on Mac, there are a few edits to be made.
Anyone on the general public can own any of the weapons you described, IF, you can pass the government colonoscopy of a background check and are willing to pay the extortion fees(tax stamps and licensing fees) to do so. They fall under class 2 & 3 licenses. Until those licenses are disavowed, or eliminated, the statement they aren’t available to the general public is inaccurate. And should the government decide to eliminate those licenses , they won’t be able to procure weapons for the military, so don’t expect them to go away anytime soon, the accurate statement would be they are unaffordable to the general public.
And DC already has some of the most strict gun laws in the country. So guess what? Only oulaws have them…
this is absolutely wrong…”Four US cities – New Orleans (21), Detroit (30), St Louis (43) and Baltimore (48) were on the list.”–http://www.globalpost.com/photo-galleries/5722155/top-10-most-dangerous-cities-the-world
Maybe try fact checking once in a while to backup your wildly erroneous claims. DC wasn’t even on the list. Not to mention that those socialist europeans weren’t either. i guess for you, knowledge comes ‘from the gut’–http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7FTF4Oz4dI
Facts to a liberal are like Kryptonite to Superman.
-Larry Elder
@adogparks, I went to the website you posted and it gave no facts or referrences to sources. DC did come in 21st of most dangerous cities in the U.S. as per http://www.businessinsider.com/the-25-most-dangerous-cities-in-america-2012-10?op=1 Stockton, CA came in 10th, Oakland came in 4th, and the two cities that made the top two were both in Michigan. This site gives names of sources as to thier findings.
Washington D.C. strict gun control law biding people cant have guns but the criminal will always have guns there trying to take our guns so when the economy totally takes a crap we wont shoot em up they are already rearing up with home land security bull shit thats just to take us out. be ready people revolution is coming this gun grabbing is just the start!!
DC is full of them. Even has their president.
True That!
DO any of you have a deep underground bunker??NO,well all the politicans DO!!! and a tram system across the entire usa,do they know about the pending russian invasion??YES,so what about YOU???YES the whole country is about to be involved in a nuclear war and the government knows it too,if you have not been getting ready,well your leaving this world soon,unless your young,and in that case you’ll probly wind up in a slave camp in china…………
They think this way because their brains are fried from habitual drug use. Why do you think being a hippy was considered a social ill?
Don’t ever give up your guns
Yes. Because it is so insane of them to ban weapons used for killing humans. Or are you planning on hunting with 500 rounds?
@Revenant The Second Amendment and the right to bear arms was written for so that the citizenry could take up arms against tyrannical government. Wake up to your self you ignorant fool . 250,000 million have been murdered by their own governments in the past 120 years after first having been disarmed by their governments. Its not about hunting . Learn history to dingbat .
Great news, this means no armed bodyguards for the looser hypocrite celebrities in California
Amen! From one Mopar Lover to another!
Steinberg…..Noticing a weird pattern with all these last names. What could it be?
AMEN
What about you’re gangs? Are they going to obey this laws? Um no.
They are out of their fucking minds. I have the right to bear arms….ALL 32 of them!
The problem is this asshole is a Jewish, it is Jewish lawmakers and their Jewish billionairs who fund them and evey anti gun groups that are behind trying to disarm the citizenry, they have been at it for more than 35 years . These people detest the United States Constitution, in particular the Second Amendment and the Bill of Rights and free speach . The time has arrived for every freedom loving American patriot to shoulder their rifles and holster their handguns and march onto their State legislatures and onto Congress peacefully by the millions and send a very powerful message to every anti gun politician that has voted for or has voted in the past for any gun control laws that the citizenry will seize and detain them to await their treason trails . Its time to put the fear of God into every anti gun politician in the United States.
Why do you think it is called The Socialist Republic of Kalifornia. It would serve them right if ALL the working conservatives left the state. It would also help if EVERYONE would boycott any and all TVand movies made in that state. I do not order anything from any company in Kalifornia and I will never enter that state for any reason
And yet you probably still buy crap made in China. What a tool!
I don’t buy from Califonia, Chicago, or China.Tool.
If you buy cheese or own a toaster, you have bought from California. Not sayin’, just sayin’.
But I try to avoid buying foreign as best I can as well.
EDIT* California and China
@Jay– More cheese comes from Wisconsin then Cali. Just because you see all those commercials saying that Cali makes happy cows, don’t buy into it. That’s why Wisconsin is called “America’s Dairyland” and that was a LONG time before Cali tried to take that away from them.
Why do you not buy from California? It’s the government making all these laws that punish the people that live in this horrible state. So people from other states should punish the PEOPLE of California as well? Asshole.
The tyrannical government of Kommiefornia derives it’s funding by the taxes they collect. While it’s unfortunate to hurt the businesses and citizens financially, they have the option of moving, just like I’m doing as I type this. The Kommiefornia government must remain within it’s borders.
JOHN,I had a friend who owned a little company in sacramento,then the government wouldn’t renew his lease,so he fired all 175 of his employees and moved out of california,they told him they only wanted green jobs in california…………………
Yes, it is the politicians… but it is the PEOPLE of California that keep electing them….
Which is why no one should feel bad about boycotting Ca. If the people suffer as well, so be it. It is, ultimately, their own fault. Left that stink hole years ago and haven’t been back!
Was born and raised in California. Became a touring musician, and therefore saw some of the rest of trhe world. Left the arm-pit and crotch of the United States in 1978, and never looked back. Since then, California has become a part of Mexico (according to Mexico’s former president, Calderon).
Not all people of California keep electing them. I live in the good old republican bubble of Orange County.. unfortunately, we aren’t big enough to out-vote the libtards throughout the rest of the state.
They just upped the body count.. I wanted to move there to be near grandson but they have to much control and no regard for freedom but you guys can smoke all the weed you want..
someone plz name any politician that has not at least charged with a crime or stole from the gov
The PEOPLE of California keep electing their own state government, which makes these laws. I don’t feel too sorry for them.
John then why do the Californians allow it to happen, unless they are just like the people they voted into office. I think it is hilarious that the state flag has “Republic” on it, farthest thing from it.
PRC> Peoples Republic of California….
The Government the people there voted in huh?. Why did they vote in people that do what they want and not what the majority wants? They are supposed to serve the people not try to rule over them………… People in this country need to start getting informed / involved and stop being sheep. We all need to take responsability for our own actions and hold our politians accountable…..
YES JUST LEAVE THANK YOU! THIS IS WHAT WOUILD MAKE CALIFORNIA GREAT.
I will from this point on BOYCOTT anything from California. I will no longer go there for vacations and or buy ANY product from this Tyrannical state.
Unfortunately, this boycott everyone is talking about will fail due to a serious lack of conviction to stick to our principles until the work is done. Instead, we get busy, wrapped up in life, or maybe experience a little pain by our decision to take a stand, and then all too quickly decide “we’ve had enough”.
For the most part, the masses just can’t wait for the next episode of “Housewives of Atlanta” or “The Bachelor”! Generally as a nation in trouble in so many ways, one would hope that we could collectively muster an attention span on the “real” issues that lasts longer than the next episode of TMZ!
The Libtards are little more than brain-dead zombies that just spew the diseased and irrational propaganda of the Left. It’s the Leftist power-mongers that are the real threat. Make no mistake…they will see this country transformed to little more than a bowl of oatmeal if they are allowed to continue unchecked and unchallenged!
We all need to get off our collective ass and use the voice that God gave us to call out the stupid, the lie, and the evil. Stand up. Stand firm. Stand tall. For as long as it takes!
Amen Sting. I believe most people are missing the big picture. This country is borrowing .46 cents out of every dollar it spends and were are spending so much more than we produce, very upside down. The only reason were are sustaining, is because we have a money tree (printing presses) but as the rest of the world realizes this, which they are, that we only control a fiat currency, we will lose our world currency power, which means more devaluation of the dollar and no more free money to hand out. The removing of guns state and federal wide, is because the white house and congress see massive riots and chaos to follow. Desperate governments will do desperate things. They got in this mess, but we will have to fight our way out. Ironic isn’t it. I hope we have the fight in us, and know what were fighting for, or you can draw your own conclusions from recent history…
Sorry for your loss of wine, pineapple, sugar and oranges.
And many, MANY movies.
Unfornatly,most people suffering from mental illness are far more likely to be abused than to go on a shooting rampage.they are regularly bullied,isolated,difficulty in social areas due to stigma of being crazy. And account for a very small portion of shootings. They require better acess to counseling,family support,and mediacal treatment. I hope they do not become a scape goat for shootings when criminals should be blamed. Also parentsof the mentaly ill need more support,especially in single parent homes. Better access to treatment is a must for them. Their family should be proactive with comunnicating issues with drs and when needed the police. A mental hold is better than a murder. And parents and care givers of mentally ill children should be held responsible if they drop the ball and don’t secure their weapons. If we ignore their problems,this lack of empathy will just make this worse. Disability aslo needs to be treated differently with regard to the mentaly ill,to get these people medical support before they hurt themselvesor someone else.
“And account for a very small portion of shootings”. Really? Look at the perpetrators of the Virginia Tech., Aurora, Gabby Giffords, and Newtown shootings. They ALL had some sort of mental illness issues and/or were taking SSRI type antidepressant medications. Punishing the law abiding gun owners and infringing upon the rights of good citizens is not going to have any beneficial affect or decrease these shootings. Enforcing current laws may be of some benefit, and improving mental health accountability and treatment as well as educating the population on securing firearms would help. But, as is pointed out over and over, the criminals don’t care about or abide by any of these ridiculous gun control laws! Get off of the backs of we already overly regulated law abiding gun owners!
Jon is correct. Mass-murders account for a very small percentage of homicides by firearm. Most are one and two victim crimes and most are committed with handguns. Those are perpetrated by run-of-the-mill criminals. Granted, they’re obviously sociopaths, but not “Mentally Ill” like the guys that have snapped and then shot up schools, theatres, etc.
That’s right according to FBI stats 90% of gun homicides are drug or gang related and most occur in major cities not main street America. The districts were most of the gun violence has occurred have one thing in common they overwhelmingly vote for democrats so if dumbicrats would stop killing people with their guns we wouldn’t have a gun problem anymore.
This isn’t about any of that it’s about taking ppl’s guns…. a AR!% wasn’t even used at Sandy Hook it was found in the back seat of the car he was driving 4 handguns were used… ask the Jews how turning over their guns went when Hitler was running Germany..
Kerry, the AR was in the school, there was a semi-auto shotgun in the car. Doesn’t matter, the fact is it is one of the very few times that class of weapon was used successfully in a spree killing. It is an over reach and not a problem in the hands of 99.9% of the firearm owners.
Chris, I watched the Ct. state police specifically say that “no ar 15 was used in the sandy hook shooting. There was an ar15 found in the car the suspect drove, but was not used in the shooting”.
The AR was found in the trunk of the car! There is a video of the Police Officer clearing the weapon when it was found in the trunk… Gun control is not the answer. If you have a trained and licensed person with a firearm when a psycho decides to go on a shooting spree you are more than likely going to be able to stop the psycho fro his shooting spree before the casualties add up!!!!!!!
the weapon found in the car was a pump action shotgun you can see it in the footige if you look closely.
The Sandy Hook disaster is way too chaotic with all the premature Information released to say wether an ar 15 was actually used.
Steve is right, the weapon in the car was a shotgun, not an AR. While I realize this has been widely debated, it weakens the argument against egregious gun control laws and makes people think others are “tin foil hat wearing gun nuts” when they persist to argue a point that has been proven otherwise. Now, perhaps we find out the officials are lying and fabricating the story, but it currently detracts from the real debate around gun control. Unless you have more information than the rest of us (i.e. news reports, pictures [that show a shotgun], etc.) then it really doesn’t help your argument. Let’s just assume the AR15 was used – who cares, it really doesn’t change the fact that a crazy person stole someone’s unsecured weapons and used them to kill little kids. Reducing the magazine size wouldn’t have stopped him (is a kindergartner going to tackle him?), even giving him a knife would not have stopped him – he was nuts and breaking the law.
I love the fact that during the news conference they’re talking about the crazy former-LAPD officer. He even points out during this that there is no excuse for this killer and rejects the journalist who brings up the fact the killer has some beef with the LAPD. He says “clearly this guy has a mental issue and that’s all there is”, but immediately goes against this and fails to recognize that the real problem is that the guy is mentally ill. It’s not his guns, it’s his brains that are fubar’d. (He also incorrectly notes that the Newtown killer legally purchased his guns!?!). Oddly enough, moments after this interview LAPD shot a 70+ year old woman twice IN THE BACK because she was driving a similar (but different year, color, make, model) truck.
For the record, there is footage of them removing a shotgun from the trunk, but there is also footage of them removing the AR-15 from the car as well. The AR-15 and the shotgun were never taken into the school. Neither of those weapons were fired at anyone.
Greg, I agree 100%! Gun control is not the answer or fix all! I think it will just create more problems, esp. for law abiding citizens who need one for protection. If somebody wants to commit a crime, they will find a way! A big thanks to my responsible parents who taught me from the time I knew what a gun was, safety, how to use it properly & they are def. not toys to show off in front of your friends! Also, if you’re not prepared physically or mentally to use it in a crisis, you don’t need one..period! There’s big difference in just owning a gun & knowing how to use it or if you have the ability to actually pull the trigger, if it ever comes to that, to help save yours or others lives!
The gun was an AR in the trunk. Hand guns were used inside…
I haven’t seen the video of another weapon taken from the car but the video I have seen is of someone clearing an AK-47 type weapon. That was a Sagia semi-auto 12 ga. shotgun. I don’t think we will ever see everything about this shooting.
The gun was found in his trunk and it was a shot gun not an AR-15 .
um you are wrong it was both… The AR and the Shotgun were found in the trunk all they ahowed was the shotgun do your research bro!!!!
So…prove your claim. Produce the footage or stfu.
Youtube search “sandy hook fully exposed” see for yourself. Did u ever think to actually do research on what weapond were used?
You went there and said it right.This Steinburg fellow is making a name for himself first and hoping to “save” us second. Some of us here in California will gladly tell him what we think….hope he can handle it.
VICTORIA,if you think the problems in california are bad now,wait till the nato troops show up,obama sold the entire usa to china last summer,but the chinese want americans disarmed and we know what will happen next,WAR…so if your not leaving california,you guys better get ready for war cause its on the way……….
Kerry, of most of these responses, you touch on the truth. Hitler was the author of ultimate gun control & censored freedom of speech (burning of books). Folks should read more of how the world wide governments are following Hilter’s plan of world dominancy.
Confiscating weapons & silencing the citizens are exactly why our forefathers adopted the 1st & 2nd Amendment. To defend ourselves from a tyrant government! That is why we should protect the three branches of government. DON’T let the prez & his crony buddies rewrite the Constitution and over ride the Judicial & Legislative branches !!!! Looks like, smells like Dictatorship to me.
Actually…. that bushmaster AR15 they kept putting all over the news… was never even recovered… not even from the vehicle Lanza allegedly drove… I am a firearms expert and upon watching the footage, what I saw them remove from “the trunk” of the vehicle that wasn’t even registered to anyone in the Lanza family, had the profile of an automat kalashnikov… yet,… as I watched the officers break every known protocol and handle the firearm ejecting cartridges… it dawned on me that it was actually a Saiga 12, a shotgun that employs the profile of AK47 variants… which has many polar differences to the Armalite profile that Stoner created… but easily confused by any liberal or person who classifies and profiles any rifle in a sporting form factor to be “scary” or “menacing”…
Yeah, they are spending billions to change the gun laws but what they should be spending the money on is helping the mentally ill! It’s not legal gun owners that’s the problem! Besides that the criminals that do wrong with the guns get them illegally and changing the laws will not change them!! It’s a horrible waste of money and will not fix the real problem!
ya sounds good to all anti-gunners but just wait till u try taking them.also will u be going to the hood to get there illegally owned guns too??????? or is that to dangerous for u pussies to do…the only people who will have guns are the ones who have illegal guns as it is now,,,,so it will be any house they want to break into they will.home invasion with rape of daughters at any age and wife…smooth move u morons..if it is going to happen i hope it is the anti-gunners who get attacked first
Yes, may all those blind liberal no good/EVIL politicians get a double portion of the wrath they’re trying to shove down our throats
I’m a opportunistic predatory criminal and I’M MOVING TO CALIFORNIA where I will find millions of victims unable to protect themselves from my kind!! thank you thank you thank you dumbass politicians!!! lol
Better not come near my home, I won’t obey the law since it is entirely unconstitutional so you will be blown away if you attempt to do me or my family harm! Orange County is one of the last bastions of sanity in CA.
Fun. Just what we need. Another psycho. (I realize this was a joke, but seriously, find a better crowd that won’t take you seriously.)
I definitely agree with you.
I KNEW this was where Koimmiefornia was going with this in 1984! (I have a damned long memory!) Scumcramento politicians are hiding behind the “hammer and sickle” showint their true Communist colors!
Maybe we should take the guns away from Southern California police. They have shot two women and two men (all caucasian) in their search for a 6’2″ 250 lb African-American rouge cop.
Can you say keystone cops. lol lol
New Hampshire is looking into requiring people without a gun to register. They are the ones that law enforcement must protect therefore they cost money and can not help defend the state.
Sounds like CA has a mental illness problem in the legislature. Perhapse a test should be given to run for office.
Tim, I second that for anyone running for office..always thought most, if not all, were a sandwich short of a picnic!
They aren’t mental at all…this has always been the plan, and will continue to be the plan, guns in the hands of citizens is not acceptable to the elite, when the country crashes and people cant buy food they need them disarmed so they can go to club FEMA
Beat know as ‘traitorous’!
“This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!” – Adolph Hitler, 1935, The Weapons Act of Nazi Germany …..
Interesting how Obama dispises the Hilter comparisons, yet the similiarities just keep on showing up. Think he read Mein Kampf and just isn’t telling anyone (except his sycophant-facist-nazimarxist tools).
Of Course it’s common sense: isn’t that what HITLER said? Yes, he did… this Loozer starts w/ a LIE: FBI STATS for CA for 2011: 1220 murders by firearm NOT 2800; down 3% from 2010. FYI LIARS in SACK Town: Auto Deaths for 2011: 32,367…Hateful, Stupid, Liars! 32,000 Duz NOT = 1,220!! When will we stop VOTING for theez Scumbags they will steal everything we have if we let them!
they are crazy they arnt saving anyone they are putting lives in danger!! thank god for my governor(ohio) he will never follow these gun laws. we will always be our own people! i mean really he even calls them clips! its called a magazine you twit! but hey you guys voted for him. just remember all those gangbangers you have out there are going to pray on you people cause they know you’ll be unprotected. im pro cop al they way but they rarely get there in time to save your life we need to protect ourselves an stop expecting other people to do it for us!
Do the Cal. officals think that the mentally ill and the criminals are going to turn in their guns and ammo? Passing more gun bills does not stop a bullet, If they continue down this path then only the criminals will have weapons making crime rise, just look at Chicago,,,the entie town is a no gun zone, but they continue to have the highest gun crime rate. It seems that most of the officals in the United States want more crime so they can scream for the feds to come and help, causing martial law.
Not true. You can own a firearm in Shitcago. It is just VERY limited in what you can own.
If I am a violent criminal that is an opportunistic predator, I’M MOVING TO CALIFORNIA where I will have plenty of victims unable to protect themselves by state law! I am going to have a field day!! I am thrilled at the golden opportunity these state lawmakers are giving me….lol what morons! Let the bloodbath begin in earnest, ye ha!
This is a communistic government, that is out of control!
We will uphold the Constitution at any cost!
We will uphold the Constitution at any cost!
ha! from this blog, none of you actually know what the second amendment states. here, let me remind you: As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, then-Secretary of State:[23]
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
so how many of you constitutional loving morons actually joined with a civilian, well regulated militia in order to be prepared to take out a would be dictator?
here is also a supreme court ruling on the issue of firearms. In United States v. Cruikshank (1876), the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that, “The right to bear arms is not granted by the Constitution; neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence” and limited the applicability of the Second Amendment to the federal government.[2] In United States v. Miller (1939), the Supreme Court ruled that the federal government and the states could limit any weapon types not having a “reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia”.[3][4]
also, all of you had great opportunities to actually sit down and hammer out logical, reasonable gun laws, such as no more selling of guns at fairs where background checks do not take place, no selling of military weapons to the public. but, no, you morons had to turn this into a pissing contest.
there are many things that i don’t agree with the about gun laws, but you idiots helped to push it there. aren’t you just so proud of yourselves?
oh, and the stuff about christianity…i am sure i can hear jesus singing your praises about letting people starve and die. hypocrites!
I need to find out where these fairs that sell guns are. Sounds like a great time. Also I would like to find the store that sells military machine guns to civilians, If you have any info on where these fairs and stores are please share the information. Thanks in advance.
“A well regulated militia necessary to protect the security of a free state” means to those serious and objective student of the Constitution realized that citizens must be allowed to “keep and bear arms”. As to morons the 2cnd. Amendment allows we, the people, to keep and bear arms SO THAT A WELL REGULATED MILITIA may be raised when needed. (Which how the Continental Army was raised). And how our freedoms came about.
We as californians should do as our new york brothers. DO NOT COMPLY!!!
Why aren’t they taking the same amount of action against the big tobacco industry which kills more civilians in America than all of the city’s guns deaths combined??? – these people are just using tragedy as a segway to disarm American citizens.. Better believe our military and police forces will keep their weapons.. so now our protective forces no longer serve us.. they trump us..
YOU IDIOTS! DID you not see that the kid in Newton did not care about any laws???? He took his mom’s guns and killed her as well!! You can not stop crazy!!!!!!
The Gov. Does not care about the publics safety just how they can take more money out of hard working people’s wallets. The criminals and crazes will still shoot people but now we again are paying the price for a cheap cover up if Cal. People are dumb enough to fall for this stunt than do be it but don’t try it in Oregon.
I hope every single gun manufacturer, and every manufacturer of all weapon supplies, and ammunition bans the entire state of California!
Force police officers to be unarmed….after all, guns are not needed. Considering the police get there after the violence stops. What would they need any of that for? Ohhhh, and make sure those representatives turn theirs in too…… We don’t want discrimination!!!
I think the politicians have mental problems.
This guy in delusional. You cannot legislate guns out of the hands of criminals. All he is doing is taking guns from the law abiding citizens who have a Constitutional right to possess them. Actually removing guns from the hands of these citizens will only raise the gun violence statistics because now the criminals know that citizens don’t have guns to fight back. Crimes rates will only raise. If guns kill people, then how does anyone ever get out of a gun show or store alive? The criminals are the problem, lets address them for once.
This State is over the edge. We have people in this state that should be sent else where. If we do not turn it around and move more conservative California will become a foreign state to the bill of rights.
You guys in California need help ” stop these idiots now! “
You guys in California need help ” stop these idiots now! “
So what is the percentage of the population that commits these random shootings?
Why should we suspend the 2nd amendment rights of 99.999999999999999999999999 % of the 330 Million Americans because of the Actions of .00000000000000000000000000001% of the Population ?
Illegal Aliens kill more Americans than a few Nuts with Guns,
So why are we trying to outlaw guns,
and grant Citizenship to 13 million Criminals?
“Lets Disarm Law Abiding Citizens and give Citizenship to 13 Million Criminals!” = LIBERAL LOGIC
Illegal Aliens make up less than 3% of the Population yet they make up about 25% of ALL Prisoners in the United States, and about 90% of them are incarcerated for NON Immigration related Offenses !
Check out the GAO report about Illegal Alien Crime Rates, also check out the large numbers of Rapes and Murders Illegal Aliens commit, does it make any sense at all to Freak out and try to infringe and severely limit The Constitutional rights of 330 Million Americans because of a very small percentage of gun crimes, yet at the Same time Illegal Aliens Kill and Rape more Children each Year than all the Psychos’ on shooting sprees since 1982 !
Yet the Ass Clowns in Washington Want to Reward Criminal behavior for 13 Million Illegal Aliens
And Punish 330 Million law Abiding Americans for the misconduct of 60 Psychos’ with Guns!
What the F$%# ? Wake Up America Your Government is Screwing You !
}}} from what I’ve seen on the news the people doing the shootings have some kind of a mental problem. I think Cal. is way overboard and going in the wrong direction
Not at all. Anyone still living in Cali has to be a complete lunatic. Ergo, clearly, no one in Cali should be allowed to own any kind of weapons.
Q.E.D.: They should ban kitchen knives…
This man and his cronies are a bunch of idiots and should be run out of office on a rail.
Californians are all sheep if they do not stop this.
Let’s make things simple, since we are dealing with liberals. Eight of the last ten mass shootings were done by liberals/liberal minded people. Outlaw being a liberal and the gun crime and mass shootings would go down 80%! Problem solved!
talk about a violation of the constitution…… those lawmakers should be tarred and feathered. but i guess you get what you vote for…..
I think California legislators have the mental problem!
Think why Mexico our neighbor and many other countries have severe gun control It is all about absolute power among the small amount of rulers common sense.They only have control if we are all defense less It is the major plan
A problem I see is there is a mental sickness with the Sacramento crowd, and the people that allowed this state to loose checks and balances. There is no opposition to any thing the dictators want to do.
I’m in favor of registration of “spoons” for fat people, if we have to register out weapons. And the next time a deranged person shoots someone the district of that politician should fire them.
It’s all a take over and a stupid way to get votes in the socialist areas, of the uninformed.
We have lost the country to the dictators bent on damaging the republic. It’s gone.
Hide your guns.
The State of California should be called,
“The Democratic Socialist LGBT Sharia People’s Republic of Kalifornia.” After our rights have been rescinded, the legislators will introduce laws requiring us to “swear an oath of loyalty” to them.
Nazi Germany all over again.Get used to it.
He stated in his opening remarks that some 2800 people died by guns, suicide, murder, accidents etc.. in one year.
He then declared the same amount of people died from automobile accidents. He said cars, trucks, all vehicles are licensed as well as all drivers tested and licensed. He suggested that new laws be made to have guns the same as the cars.
My question is if all the licensing, testing etc… of drivers works so well then why are the deaths by cars not important enough to add more restrictions on the way cars are made or what kind of car you can own? Why should you have a car that goes faster than 50 miles an hour. They have proved that an accident at 50 miles an hour cause less injury and deaths than an accident at 70. Why does anyone need a car with 755 horsepower that can go 200 miles and hour when the speed laws in most states is 70 to 80 miles an hour. Then he calls for the same licensing, registration etc.. for guns and gun owners. What’s the flaw here?. If the licensing of vehicles and drivers has the same rate of deaths as unlicensed guns what is the benefit of licensing guns?
Also why are they not trying to limit the horsepower of vehicles so they can only go let’s say 50 miles an hour?. why don’t they make bumpers on vehicles much stronger.
There is absolutely no sense and absolutely no comparison to the type of gun laws restrictions and controls they want to put on guns. Why, because they want to ultimately disarm the people entirely. It’s about controlling us. They don’t want to restrict car ownership or punish and make criminals out of law abiding citizens for owning a car with 755 horsepower that can go 200 miles and hour but they want to take a semi automatic pistol away? It doesn’t do a thing to save some ones life, get serious here. It is plain control over the people and it takes away a persons ability to protect his family from the crack pots that are out there creating the crimes and murders that create a need for a person to own weapons to begin with.
We need guns not only to protect our families and belongings but to also protect our Constitution and Liberties, it’s our God given right as a free society to protect ourselves from all enemies both foreign and domestic.
Ask any cop, or any politician how they plan to make it to your house and save your family if someone breaks in and starts shooting, or chopping or using baseball bats, or chainsaws, or rocks and starts killing your family if they can please get there in 2 1/2 seconds to take the criminal out and save your family from harm, go ahead and ask them!! You know as well as I do there is no way they can. Do you want that? to see your family slaughtered? when there is a huge possibility that maybe you could have saved their lives if you would have had a gun?
Don’t fall for this crap they are trying to shove down your throat. When our government takes away the guns there goes your freedoms along with it, there goes your ability to protect yourself your family and properties. When they can guaranteed us absolutely that there will be no more crime, the nuts that go out and kill will no longer do that and that we are 100% safe from harm and that there will be no enemies both foreign and domestic to fear then maybe we could have some type of gun control. Until then is pure suicide to let them take our guns and right away from us. Stand up with me and tell them Hell no you can’t take our defenses away from me!!
Well, in answer to that, you have to look a bit into the past. Since the inception of vehicle laws, deaths by vehicles over the last 10 years have been reduced by around 50%, which is where he gets the idea that it’s possible the same kind of reduction could be seen if similiar laws were enected for guns.
Guns are not vehicles. They are very simply devices, where it’s an impossibility, for them to be fired without input from irresponsible users. They are not rattlesnakes with minds of their own, nor are they machines, that are powered by fuel and batteries. Even a child can come to this conclusion but leftists are dishonest. One need only look at Chicago, and other gun control utopias, to see what such restrictions accomplish. The leftist are not intent on really attacking crime. That would entail attacking the very demographic that keeps such corrupt politicians in office.
The people committing the crimes, are the constituents of the legisexuals, writing the tyrannical legislation. Who want to reap the dishonest political reward, for propping up their terrible constituents, while persecuting their political enemies, namely traditional Americans. All at the same time.
Oh god…The hate…Let it floooooow!
The problem is when people with mental problems have easy access to firearms
They don’t. They actually have to work at it.
Well here’s the whole crux…. what are people going to do about it ??? I have a feeling they are just gonna roll and take it. So unless someone is going to come out and actively do something about it you may as well go get in line and hand over your 2nd amendment rights. Anyone can talk about it, but actions speak… This can be handled with no violence too, but you need the strength of numbers to get the point across.
Just to make a correction, there is no limit to how much ammo anyone can own. The 500 rounds cited in the new law is “that any individual who sell more than 500 rounds in any month is required to obtain an annual state-issued business license.”
Its to force all ammo resellers to have to get this new business license. There is no stipulation on how much ammo an individual person can buy or own.
Being mentally ill is preferred to have easy programmed voters. Neither party have taken any measures to solve the black market underground dope and slut trafficking so they come after the owners of firearms. Just like everywhere else the NRA has had mentally ill staff just like todays ODD cases. On the Democrat side one from Tn still hates blacks criminal or not yet is backed by apartment owners since he is their protected species of dopers. Fake email
Will we read everyday about those that throw away newborn puppies in Cali get jail yet humans are OK to murder? Cannot fix these Socialist folks since the Logan’s Run ERA.
You know against the legal gun owners again nothing said about the illegal gun owners and how they are getting guns. Why don’t Newsome just put a 25-year mandatory sentence on all gun related crimes plus the crime to charge with that would stop a lot of the bad guys from having guns.
Way OVERBOARD..Suspect there is gonna be a LOT of leftist marxist democRAT politicians out of work, standing in a parking lot with a sign written with a black marker saying; ‘WILL LEGISLATE FOR PAYOFFS/MONEY UNDER THE TABLE!”
Agreed!
When only the elected have access to guns will the masses understand what started us in the road to independence. It might be time to prepare, California officials are Democratic idiots to start with. Keep the powder dry my brothers those idiots don’t realize the hell they’ll unleash. I’m glad my time is almost over but I sure feel sorry for my kids and grandkids.
I think California legislators should be charged for infringing on 2nd amendment for law abiding citizens
Good…It’s about time! Ban them all! Those right wing wacko’s will live!
California Politicians seem to have a mental problem…
You are an idiot! Mental health problems are in every other country and THEY DO NOT HAVE MASS SHOOTINGS EVERY DAY LIKE WE DO IN THIS COUNTRY! Try another excuse asshole! That fog won’t hunt!
Well said!! Totally engineered and designed by the commie liberals to attempt to disarm and render us Americans helpless and at their mercy!!
The people mst afflicted with mental problems are the people running the state of Calif!
Most of the people in CALIFORNIA are mental. Maybe it would apply.
California is a mental problem
Alotta people are gonna die if that happens good honest people are gonna die Cruz bad guys always get guns so they will have the advantage stupid fuckin liberals
Absolutely right
Criminals and mentally ill do not follow laws you frigging dumb-asses in California governmental politicians. More stupid liberal knee jerk laws in response to a non existent problem with law abiding citizens. These heinous acts are committed by no law abiding citizen ever.
This is a direct violation of the second amendment and would be shot down by the courts. These dumbass idiot socialists need to take an 8th grade civics course.
I’m a Vietnam veteran that was drafted and went but I can tell you one thing and that is these shooters are evil disturbed people and it has nothing to do with guns. I’m keeping mine to defend myself from evil people like that and no government is going to take my guns without killing me.
Unfortunately your average gang member ot criminal has not registered his weapons. Yiou will only be confiscating legal weapons from law abiding citzens. You are unable to control your border with Mexico and soon the weapons your governmemnt gave to Mexico will be for sell at upscaled pries in your state. You will create a huge black market in weapons and ammo. and like drugs where there is incresed profit there will be increased business
Perfectly stated! Once you disarm the law.abiding citizens the criminals have free reign to commit aggravated(with a gun) crimes at an increased rate. I will be a CA citizen with the military in April and I am disgusted with this.
If the military sends you there, you do NOT have to become a resident of California. You may choose any state you have an affiliation with. Some good ones to choose are TN, TX, FL or AK.
Wyoming, is one of the best!
VA!
Even though California has a better economy and supports all those states by sending money to the federal government. You’re welcome for the donation.
CA. Has an economy worse than a half dozen third world nations and the absolute worst in America! The feds own records state that.They also spend more time pressing for umconstitutional laws than any other state.
This is not conjecture. I have friends and family in CA. and I READ!
MO is another great state for rights…
As far as the questions went… sounds like many are staged…
does this sound a bit like “Hitler”did before he rounded up people that he wanted to get rid of? (THINK ABOUT IT!)
Is it any coincidence that these states also have the lowest IQ scores? Rednecks!
Me: are you sure neck claim? Do you know what a Redneck is? What is your IQ? How do you know that these state have low IQs? Are you anything more than a stupid name caller?
That must be why TX does better in education standards than CA, all them dumb rednecks…
Me say what you will,but we know what it takes to protect our familys home and country
Oh bullshit! Not one good guy with a gun has managed to fumble his weapon out of his holster to save anyone!
Just like in Mexico. And does it solved the violence problem here? 60 thousand dead bodies say no!
PUss*es like him make me want to vomit, against his arguement, how many people drive with out a license, how are you going to stop someone from commiting sucide, they will just find another method. like getting in a car and driving it into someone at high speed, here is what you can do, put bullistic resistant glass in schools, to keep people from breaking the glass and walking into. and vote these marons out of office
I have an idea for Californians…go F@$K yourself. Stay there. Keep your cancer there. Don’t leave and spread your disease to the rest of the country. You are no longer Americans. And those of you from the northeast, do the same. You have nearly succeeded in destroying North Carolina and Florida with your absolute asinine foolishness. You destroy the states of your birth and then pick up the plunder you have scored and metastasize southward. We hate you. It’s time to divorce. California, keep your pornography and hedonism. We can grow our own food. Northeast, keep your talking heads and union thugs. For the love of God, let’s just get it over with.
Seems like Californians should revolt and take over the state house and jail all the politicians now!
With the 2012 NDAA, all it would take is for the CA National Guard Commander to issue an arrest warrant for all politicians attempting to undermine the US Constitution, arrest them and imprison them indefinately for treason and sedition.
The sword cuts both ways, ladies and gentlemen…
The problem IS Californians… They voted all the stupids in… You can guess where the IQ is located for those entering the voting booths…
I suggest that anyone who cares about themselves and their families move out of California and leave it to Mexico. But Sherman it first.
Yes, low IQ’s syndrome plagues California, they’re the ones who voted for Frankenstein, I mean witch feinstein in the first place, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!!!!!!!!!!
Dont blame the cancer of our government on the People of California or the North – that is Asinine and isolationist. If we fall in other states its because YOU didnt want to get involved or help any other state fight the good fight. Eventually, you and your state will be FORCED to give up your rights because YOU blamed governmental forced control on the people and not on the gov.
This is not a state problem, or a states rights problem. This is a Republic of the United States of America problem. If the Constitution is abridged in one state, all states are fair game. Californians used to be frontiersmen and women. It’s time for all Americans to rise up, not just moan and whine. You think this is bad, if you wiat much longer, it gets worse. Yeh, Yeh, I know, you liberal socio-democrats will say paranoid. I say, heightened sense of self awareness.
Well Said Phil!!!!
No. Sorry. California was once a conservative state. Landowners, producers, businessmen and manufacturing. No more. They have regulated/socialized/spent themselves into oblivion. There is no way out but to start over. Likewise our country would have never been born without the patriots from the Northeast. Look at the people there now. They can’t hold a candle to their forefathers. It is a disgusting insult that the birthplace of American patriotism is now a cesspool of socialism and anti-Americanism. Everything is 180 degrees from what should be, brother. The cancer IS the people. The government is of the people. Give me. Give me. Give me. Regulate. Regulate. Regulate. I am sick to death of seeing the cancerous populous vote for these laws in their nest, then pour East and South when their nest is irreparably fouled. Straighten out your mess at home. March on your capitols and ride some people out of town on rails and then we can speak about who is fighting for what. I have fought, literally and figuratively for the last 30 years for my country. I see now it has been all for naught. Now I am fighting here at home.
You don’t hold a candle to your forefathers, either, genius. You think whatever backwoods state you live in doesn’t have the same sickness as California or the rest of the country? Have you ever even been here? Or do you shovel in your morning news and ask for another helping without ever stopping to ask what’s in it? It’s people like you, who think finding someone to blame is more important than finding a solution, who are the real sickness. You are just like the politicians you mock, always pointing the finger across the aisle so you don’t have to admit you might not know what the hell you are doing. And so quick to open your mouth as if you have the answers, safe behind your computer screen, fattening your ass in your confortable, stationary seat of judgement. Bet you’ll point the finger at me for pointing it out long before you’ll admit I’m right, too…that’s the problem with sick people-sometimes they don’t know they are sick.
Well I AM from that God forsaken state, and it’s people like you, who keep their heads in the sand. The rest of us hold our forefathers in high regard. Choke on your liberalism. I can’t WAIT for the “big” one and idiots like you wind up in the Pacific. Keep voting for the morons you hold dear, you’re getting exactly what you deserve!!!
The people of the Commonwealth of PA are still holding strong with our 2nd amendment rights
Brother,
It is not just your 2nd amendment rights. It is all of your rights. It is the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It is the ability to live your life without being forced into serfdom by the “Federal” government. It is about not being forced into slavery to pay for able bodied people to feed and house themselves and have luxuries such as cellphones. It is about not forcing a physician into slavery because he is required to work to provide for someone who does not and will not pay their bills. It is about the children of this country born into debt slavery. I am as strong a supporter of the 2nd amendment as anyone, but it is only a piece of the pie. Shrink your government. Now. Before it is too late.
As a healthcare provider maybe if a Dr didnt charge $600 for a 3 minute talk might help. Hows anout you live here in Florida where the wealthy make the laws and the poor and middle class have to lap it up or suffer. Getting paid $7.26 and hour and trying to provide for your family or pay your bills and then come into work cause the boss dont like you can fire you on the spot without any reason because its a right to work state… I dont have a right to pay my bill I have to pay my bills and feed my family so Florida can suck it….
If Florida is such an awful place to live, why not move to California or New York and go on food stamps and welfare. From what I hear it is easy to do so.
Not all Californians want to leave and change their new state of residence, into another communist state, like has been done, to Oregon and Washington.
I, for one, am leaving The People’s Republik of Kalifornia, to Oklahoma, because I find myself, more in agreement with Okies, than most any other state. I am moving there, to be amongst people who think like me, more than any other state, with the exception of Wyoming.
SCREW THIS COMMIE STATE!!!
I am a *choke* californian, this once beautiful state has turned into a cesspool of liberals and illegals! I am moving out asap and I am NOT bring this liberal crap with me!
Ron, I agree!! My husband and I both native Californians..Approaching 60..Leaving before summer to MT or AZ. No we are not liberal commies just looking for lower taxes..We are looking for personal liberty. The idea of sticking around is pointless while they suck us dry with taxation..more legislation and fewer rights..
I’m a native Californian. I have since moved to Texas. I have a hard time explaining to people here… not all Californians are insane liberal hippies. Only the ones you see in the news. It’s like not everyone who says they’re from “New York” lives in NYC and works for a magazine or something. It’s stupid to think everyone is liberal. Mainly the north (san fran) and sound (LA/SD) are liberal. Everywhere in between is conservative and everyone I know in California is against this crap. I’m sick of people saying “California is a bunch of wacko hippies”… Not all, just the illegals that still get to vote, and douchebags from LA/SanFran.
You and I have had the same experience, and realize the truth, even though it is not “politically correct.” As we both realize, California is now a part of Mexico, for all intents and purposes.
Being a native Californian at 70 years of age I can tell you that most natives are gone from CA. Most of the people here are ex-snowbirds. Between the “wets” and out-of-staters we’re screwed. If Steinberg wants my guns he can come and get them personally if he has the balls. Come alone.
What the hell d do the snowbirds have to do with your problems? They can’t vote and are only there for 5 months a year. Ex-snowbirds? who the fuck in their right mind would want to take up permandent residents in CA?
Hmmm Snowbird…I wonder what they taste like?
Chicken.
Lighten up, Francis.
I’m a native Californian. California was once a fairly conservative state. Ronald Reagan was a two-term governor here, remember? More recently we’ve passed initiatives banning state services for illegal aliens, race-based “affirmative action” and gay marriage.
The problem we have is that a lot of northeastern liberals have moved here, and unionized liberals now run our public schools. Combine that with decades of illegal immigration and “anchor babies”, and we’ve now got a perfect storm of left-leaning voters.
But even now, California has the same blue state/red state problem as the whole country. Most of the state is red, but too much of the population is centered in the liberal bastions of L.A. and the Bay Area.
Please don’t stereotype us! There are thousands of us it this screwed up state that hate what’s happening. We talk daily about the screwball policies they shove down our throat and are all on your side — believe me! We are preparing for whatever comes, are tired of paying for the losers, my brother being one, kept quiet by the media that needs to be shut down and love America. Don’t look at if from a standpoint of state lines, were here and are just as pissed off as you. Maybe we will meet in the bush on day and have to fight side by side. I know your pissed, so are we and I agree, lets get this crap over with and whoever wins, wins!
Then do somethiung…Helloooo.
@ Paul, I agree. Lets get this ugliness done and over with.
California used to be a free state. Now it is as you say. But a whole bunch on nut cases came her from the Great Depression on that came her to take our money. Moreover, sir not everyone from California thinks like this new wave of Morons. This was an open carry state, lots of open ground, great landscape, great hunting, good cops, now it is a sh@t hole. But they came from every place else. The naturals were good ole ranchers and farmers. So I ask with respect don’t put every person in the same boat..
Unfortunately not every one from California has the same views, and as far as moving out of the state, some can’t afford it, so if you are so damn wealthy, help some of those that would like to get out of California, put your money where your mouth is. IDIOT.
And Fuck yoi Redneck right wing wacko! Stay the hell in your redneck state and leave California alone!you whiney fuck…
The United States Government is telling us that THEY can take our Guns without our permission. THEY are basically telling US that THEY can do anything THEY want to US. FOR THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE has no meaning to them anymore. They want to Divide the people so they can Conquer the people because divided we fail – UNITED WE WIN. We ALL need to STAND AND FIGHT TOGETHER! CONTACT your REP/GOV/Mayor/Senator/ and tell them NO on taking our guns. NO means NO or the Alternative will be the destruction of our country.
I mail my letters daily and call (every day) and tell them
“I would like to urge you to reject all new anti-gun legislation immediately.
I would like to urge you to reject all new proposals and all new gun control throughout the legislative session.”
State Assembly-Marc Levine district 10 (Dem)
State Senate- Senator Noreen Evans (Dem (916) 651-4120
Together we make a difference, call and write everyday and quit bichen!
Peace Patriots
George: you are not seeing the true nature of what Big Brother is doing.BB is doing all this for OUR OWN GOOD we just don’t understand yet.If anyone does understand let me know.
Don’t be surprised to see N.Y. blow,10s of 1000s of pissed off gun owners their.So as I suspect Ca. may.Assuming Frankenstein and Company get their way.IMHO BB IS Scared.Why all the ammo purchases?
Oh we are coming for your precious gun’s yes we are. The black helo’s are buzzing your house right now!
You people are complete morons!
Thank GOD we left California nearly two years ago. These liberals will NEVER understand that making it more difficult for law-abiding citizens NEVER creates a problem for criminals.
This is absolutely ridiculous. If this passes, everyone in California who owns guns should do what the people of New York are doing: RESIST.
SILLY LIBS TAKE A LOOK AT LOTS OF COUNTRY’S HERE THAT ARE MOSTLY DISARMED , TAKE CARE OF YOUR CRIMINALS AND STOP MESSING WITH GOOD PEOPLE OF THE USA, IF YOU THINK THAT WE THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO STAND STILL TAKING CRAP FROM BAD PEOPLE COMING TO STEAL, HARM, KILL US THINK AGAIN !!!
Crime Statistics > Assault victims (most recent) by country
showing latest available data.
Rank Countries Amount
# 1 Saint Kitts and Nevis: 3%
Crime in Saint Kitts and Nevis
# 2 United Kingdom: 2.8%
Crime in United Kingdom
= 3 New Zealand: 2.4%
Crime in New Zealand
= 3 Australia: 2.4%
Crime in Australia
# 5 Canada: 2.3%
Crime in Canada
# 6 Finland: 2.1%
Crime in Finland
= 7 France: 1.4%
Crime in France
= 7 Denmark: 1.4%
Crime in Denmark
= 9 Sweden: 1.2%
Crime in Sweden
**9 United States: 1.2%
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Crime Statistics > Robbery victims (most recent) by country
Showing latest available data.
Rank Countries Amount
# 1 Poland: 1.8%
Crime in Poland
# 2 Italy: 1.3%
Crime in Italy
= 3 Australia: 1.2%
Crime in Australia
= 3 United Kingdom: 1.2%
Crime in United Kingdom
= 5 France: 1.1%
Crime in France
= 5 Portugal: 1.1%
Crime in Portugal
= 5 Slovenia: 1.1%
Crime in Slovenia
# 8 Belgium: 1%
Crime in Belgium
= 9 Sweden: 0.9%
Crime in Sweden
= 9 Canada: 0.9%
@16 United States: 0.6%
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Crime Statistics > Total crime victims (most recent) by country
Showing latest available data.
Rank Countries Amount
# 1 Australia: 30.1%
Crime in Australia
# 2 New Zealand: 29.4%
Crime in New Zealand
# 3 United Kingdom: 26.4%
Crime in United Kingdom
# 4 Netherlands: 25.2%
Crime in Netherlands
# 5 Sweden: 24.7%
Crime in Sweden
# 6 Italy: 24.6%
Crime in Italy
# 7 Canada: 23.8%
Crime in Canada
# 8 Saint Kitts and Nevis: 23.2%
Crime in Saint Kitts and Nevis
# 9 Malta: 23.1%
Crime in Malta
# 10 Denmark: 23%
# 15 United States: 21.1%
Total Crimes:
# 1 United States: 11,877,218 Population: 311,705,000 2011 – ranks 15th in total crime victims behind the UK
# 2 United Kingdom: 6,523,706 Population: 62,435,709
2011 – ranks 3rd in total crime victims ahead of the US
You have let the bad guys float for so long, you will never get the guns out of bad guys hands, that is joke if you belive, not only the problem of guns being in bad guys hands, but the mentally ill , hell all you have to do is claim that all have mental illness then take all guns, you missed the problem all the way around, as you do all the time , YOU SUPPORT DISARMING AMERICA YOU CAN BE CHARGED FOR THAT ACTION !! put the bad guys away ! stop turning them back to the streets you are supporting your own jobs with hunting for them all over again, then turning them lose on us, now you wish to disarm us to a point of no defence agains there full auto weapons , you are sick in my thinking ! I am retired FF and have had shoots fired at me before so dream on with taking guns !
But the U.S seperates violent crimes from gun crimes in their reporting. in actuality the US is third in the world in gun crimes
The US is third in the world in gun crimes only because most of these other countries ahead of the US in crimes has some form of limited gun ownership where-as the general population doesn’t own guns. You have to looat the overall big picture in that yes we have higher gun crime but lower crime rates because people in the US have a means to protect themselves.
What you also fail to mention is all gun related deaths and injuries in the US are listed as gun crimes in the US. Someone commits suicide, hunting accident, etc. Not just and simply murders.
This is astounding. The degree at which the federal government AND states are attempting to jam this legislation down our throats.
The America we once new is gone.
The ridiculous aspect of these proposed laws… they will not be adhered to by any criminal. What do they not understand about that fact…? Oh wait… that’s right… they know this, but don’t care. They simply want to disarm everyone (except themselves and their body guards of course).
The laws won’t be adhered to by any criminal, and any American citizen who will not comply with the order will end up being a criminal. And now with Obama having the choice of killing an American citizen when he thinks it is necessary, well…I guess we can see where this is going.
Ya for sure this is exactly what Hitler did.
Good thing I live in AK and I will never be in CA. Get rid of all the crazy liberals and lets gain some common sense again people. RESIST…..
Strong gun rights states should pass legislation making it a felony for CA and NY residents to travel to or through their respective states without a semi-automatic firearm and a magazine holding more than 10 rounds.
I like that idea. It doesn’t even violate the constitution.
When they take your Rights away, thank a Democrat.
When they tax you more, thank a Democrat.
When they give illegal immigrants your hard earned money, thank a Democrat.
When they say you can’t burn in your own fireplace, thank a Democrat.
When food prices go up because of Obamacare, thank a Democrat.
When gas prices go up, thank a Democrat.
When your kids are held back in school not because they are not smart enough but rather due to teachers spending more time with non-english speaking kids, thank a Democrat.
When you have to ask permission to build a house, fence, wall, patio, etc., thank a Democrat.
When farmers can’t get water for their crops, thank a Democrat.
When criminals are released from jails and prison early, thank a Democrat.
When you smell feces and urine in the streets of San Francisco, thank a Democrat.
When a 2nd grade kid gets suspended from school for pointing his finger like a gun, thank a Democrat.
When an 8th grade girl get contraceptives from school, thank a Democrat.
Aren’t you tired of thanking Democrats?
When they try to take your guns away, how are you going to thank a Democrat?
That is beautifully thought out and executed!
RALLY AND WAIT LIBERALS CANNOT FUNCTION IF THERE IS NO INTELLECT OR WISDOM WITHIN THE LIBERAL SHEEP FOLLOWING THEIR MASTER. WHEN OBUMMER AND OBIDEN STOP QUICK THESE LIBERAL NITWITS WILL BURY THEIR HEADS SO FAR UP INTO THE DARKNESS .THEN AND ONLY THEN ,MAYBE THEY CAN SEE THE TRUTH IN THIS MUSLIM SOCIALIST UPRISING.
I suppose this will help to hasten the return of CA to Mexico. Most Americans interested in maintaining their arms will leave along with businesses. What will be left? No much… They will ask for money to cover their social programs because there won’t be enough revenue.
Haha! People and businesses come to Cali because of its endless resources and fertile soil. If they take guns, businesses aren’t going anywhere. There’s a reason California is so populated and we Californians are very proud. I you guys want to boycott the state, please do! Our sunny beaches and beautiful theme parks are too crowded as it is.
Hey ya’ll, come to Texas….:-)
Thanks for the invite Malcolm. I grew up in Texas and most of my family still live there.
I live in Cali now and no one is taking my guns.
I didn’t start this fight, but I mean to see it through.
NOT ONE MORE INCH !!!
…be safe…stay the course…NOMI…..Ba.
Way to go brother!!!
I like in Kansas. If at some point in time the FED/KBI/STATE POLICE or anybody else comes for my gun’s…. we all will leave my home in BODY BAGS! I’m fed up with this crap!
Pleas find me a place to stay and rally and I will glady come to your fine state of TEXAS!!!
What the hell????? Did these people elect a communist? If they (the state legislature) allow this bill to be passed, it shows that the people there are the idiots that they are by electing morons!
I’m in California, so it looks like I will be buying another Savage Model 99. Built in rotary magazine (non-removable)and lever action. Stick that up your commie tail-end, Feinstein. Light and perfectly balanced means you can get on target faster, and a lever means almost as quick in getting off the next aimed round as a semi-auto. In speed-demon .22-250, with copper solids just what one needs for armored zombies.
Legalities aside, the gun control they are attempting will not work–too many citizens care too much about their rights. Plus, what happens if someone from TX is visiting family in CA and has their pistol in the glove box? Texas law states my car is an extension of my house and my house is in TX…
Yes you stupid people i will take all your guns and tell you when you can crap and when not to crap, and there is nothing you can do cuz i have all our guns
I am a 3rd generation native Californian. I left California 11 years ago, because the politics and the ignoring the problems of the illegal aliens became unbearable. I have not been back, and I won’t come back. California was once a wonderful, beautiful state, sorry to say it hasn’t been for a long time,and this stupid move will bury it for sure.
I can’t believe these morons!!! Steinberg is such a communist. How about stop the catch and release program with our prison system! I will NEVER give up any of my legally owned firearms or magazines! I can’t wait to leave Kalifornia.