This is an old article, the article on the situation in Putnam County New York can be seen here https://offgridsurvival.com/red-flag-gun-control-standoff-with-afghan-war-veteran-in-new-york/
In the latest attack on the American people, a decorated War Hero has been arrested and charged with five counts of third degree criminal possession of a weapon, for having empty 30 round AR-15 Magazines in his vehicle.
On Sunday January 6th Staff Sgt. Nathan Haddad, a decorated combat veteran, was driving through Jefferson County New York when he was randomly pulled over for a vehicle check. Haddad, who had five 30 round empty magazines in his possession, was arrested by the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Department and charged with five felony counts.
According to Haddad’s brother, Michael Haddad, Nathan thought these magazines were legally made before the New York Assault Weapons Ban. When Nathan Haddad was arrested the new ban had not even been fully enacted yet.
This is not a criminal, this is not some thug looking to hurt people; this is a decorated combat veteran who was recently honored by the Philadelphia chapter of Blue Star Mothers and the Union League’s Armed Services Council for helping disabled vets get back on their feet. What’s happening to Army veteran Nate Haddad is an absolute attack on liberty. Here we have a man who honorably served his country, who was trusted with weaponry that far exceeded anything he was carrying, that now finds himself facing the possibility of spending years in prison.
Still think these gun control laws are meant to stop criminals?
Nathan Haddad’s brother has set up a legal defense fund for his brother who cannot afford to fight these charges on his own. We ask that you share this story with everyone you know so that this attack on Hassad is seen for what it is, an attack on every law-abiding citizen in America.
Are you F#$$^n kidding me? Im a cop and THAT is piss poor police discretion. Shame on you!!!!!
Everyone is focusing on the issue of the magazines, I don’t understand the “roadblocks” and searching vehicles without probable cause.
SOOO many idiots on this site. Its scary some have guns. Its irrelevant if the person is or was in the military. The law applies to everyone. PERIOD. I dont agree with the NY law, but they voted on it and its legal. Its been on the books for years. The man was in violation of it, PERIOD. NO DEBATE. The only questions is weather the arresting officer had discretion in the arrest. If so, then tho he did his job, he probably could have let him off. Kind of like getting caught speeding-doing 61 or 62 in a 60 mph zone. A bit petty, but perfectly legal. Kind of scary some of these people replying vote.
Aside from the emotional veteran stuff (of which I am a veteran myself)when it comes strictly the law, he does have a clear defense at the appeals level when they review the law of the case. For a crime to have been committed, there are certain rules and elements that apply, as well as defenses. In all of that there are at least two that will eventually get any case successfully brought against him reversed. First, that the arrest was made in error due to crime committed if the 30 round magazine ban was not enforceable at the time of arrest, and two, even if a crime (technically) was committed, that he might have a defense that it was unreasonable for him (or any other reasonable person) to know that the “new” rules were in force. The second is harder to work than the first. In this case, there are several layers of “smart legal folks” that will protect his rights. Now, if he did violate the law, willingly or not, then it is on all of us to VOTE, be active in local politics, and use the American system of representative government to change the laws. From one vet to another, I wish him well.
All of these complaints about roadblocks, searches, etc. Where were all of you when the Patriot Act was being passed by Bush’s Administration without Congress getting a chance to read it? Then Obama turns around and reauthorizes it!! That Act is a huge part of the elimination of basic privacy rights. Read it.
I was detained one time by the TSA, at the airport. I was in my desert camouflage uniform, in route back to Afghanistan after leave…..they detained me because my uniform was detected have gun powder by the sniffers. NOSHIT!
I have worked for Homeland Security for 11 years. I retired from the Army with 22 1/2 years of service. I spent 3 1/2 years of my career as an Infantryman in Iraq.
TSA doesn’t detain people. TSA doesn’t arrest people. They are not a commissioned Law Enforcement Agency. You may have been delayed by them. But you were not detained.
I think we need to shift our thinking here. Police officers are Peace Officers. They keep the peace. When something happens, they get called and they show up and restore the peace. The Courts are responsible for Enforcing the Law by judging whether laws were broken and if so what the punishment should be. The Constitutionality of the law restricting 10 round, and they don’t even make 7 round magazines for ARs, is the next problem. Sheriffs around the United States have stood up and said they will refuse to enforce any Presidential Actions! Because they Infringe on our 2nd Amendment rights. I support the idea of background checks. It should keep Felons and people with known Mental problems from purchasing weapons legally. Since we know a majority of guns used by criminals are stolen or purchased on the black market. And yes in some cases even given away by the BATFE, (if you are a member of a qualifying Mexican drug cartel!) Which brings us back to the Law Enforcement problem! The Justice System is broken! Offenders get 3 hots and a cot, cable TV, a gym membership, and in some cases an education. All paid for by the victims thru a generous donation of their tax dollars! Which makes us all victims!
WAr is coming.It is not if,it is only when.The sooner we get this over with the sooner we can get on with building a free country once again.The american interior police of the KGB,DHS,instructs the pea roided up pea brains about how they can make brownie points by attacking people based upon the latest politically correct scam/agenda.they get EXTRA kill marks for peeing on a Vet and a gun owner.The idea is for the shiesters and their meat puppets to use administrative terror against one man to cow the rest of you down.What filth. Organize,arm,equip and train as a Militia/team for MUTUAL defense.Liberty and 1775 is the answer to the problem. MGK
The law is the law…bottom line. Soldiers are not exempt !
This story sounds fishy. Any other proof that it actually happened? And if it did, it will get tossed by a judge, if it ever gets that far. Law was not in effect at the time of the arrest. Can’t enforce a law that technically doesn’t exsist yet.
Instead of going after criminals they go after Law abiding citizens!
Travesty of justice.
My son was pulled over in Elmira, NY, DUI and speeding. Unloaded CCW locked in middle console of his truck with 3 unloaded clips. Unopened box of ammo in backseat area of the truck. He pleaded guilty to the DUI and speeding charges. Has been charged with 1 felony for possessing a firearm. He may be charged with 3 more felonies, one for each clip. This is his first offense. He has been working in PA since May. This is a violation of his Second Amendment rights. There are many questionable incidents in this case. There was a friend in the truck who witnessed the events.
Hit them where it hurts, boycott the entire state of NY, I am. This is bullshit. “Let Valor Not Fail”
Point of Fact: There is no provision for pulling a vehicle over for a “random vehicle check”. A police officer can’t pull you over for ANY reason unless he has probable cause to do so. Speeding? He can’t search your vehicle unless he has probable cause to believe you’re violating another law. He can request permission, but without a search warrant, he’s not searching my car. Not that I have anything to hide…….but there *is* that pesky little thing called the 4th Amendment.
I am shocked and ashamed! Shocked that this happened right here in Watertown area. Definately show the adgenda of the sheriff. I also am ashamed that a local law enforcement did this. Every body in the state knows this was an illeagal bill and the Gov and legislators will answer for this. !st, 2nd, 4th and I’m sure the 5th admendment will be repeadedtly violated. Enough is enough. The law should be embarassed.
A decorated combat veteran. Really????? Glad I don’t live there, and now I never will!
Good ,bad ,or indiferent. I’m glad Ya’ll are pay’n attention. Thank you for that. This so called “Safe Act” is unjust and will not stand {New York Civil Rights Law, Art2,Sec4}. No slam against the patron Saint Of Scotland. St. Andrew will not make it to the presidency due to the fact that like so many others he has attacked law abiding citizens.
I would understand if the cops asked if he had any weapons in the car and he told them no, then found these magazines.. That would be a different story! I guess we will find out as more details come about.
ignorance of the law of New York state is not a defense. Large capacity magazines have been outlawed there for over a decade. As for probable cause, illegal search and seizure, let me make a point. This guy simply experienced what black people, kids with long hair, and other minorities, have been experiencing for 20 years from the war on drugs. Sucks when it happens to your guy huh? While you were approving taking the rights of other Americans away under the guise of the war on drugs, which militarized the police– then the war on terrror, which took away the bill of rights, now you’re all up in arms about some idiot who thought he could carry illegal magazines in his car? Hoo boy!
Amen Sister. You nailed. it.
You are the idiot. For one, this has nothing to do with any kind of racial profiling. Second, there is a such thing as the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. Using ones judgement as a law enforcement officer is sometimes more important than strictly upholding every single law. When it is obvious there is not intent to commit a crime or means to commit a crime ( No ammunition ) then you are wasting the courts time, the taxpayers money and causing problems for an individual that is obviously not a criminal or has any kind of criminal intent. Is ignorance of the law an excuse for not following the law, of course not. Any middle school kid could tell you that. Does this officer exhibit questionable judgement? Absolutely. You lady are bitter from some past experiences and on a witch hunt for anything white, it sounds like to me. Get over yourself.
dumb broad
Ignorance and misogyny in 2 out of the 3 first replies? You guys are a credit to your cause.
No one is addressing the 500 pound elephant in the room: Post-ban 30 round magazines are ILLEGAL in NY STATE, it doesn’t matter what the cop stopped him for, post 9/11 a cop can stop anyone for any reason and detain you (thanks Bush!).
And regardless of what you think, veterans aren’t afforded more rights than the poorest, dumbest civilian.
The part that grinds your gears is the same people who are now decrying government oppression via the 2nd amendment are the same ones who cheered for stricter drug laws under Reagan, and supported the Patriot act which traded liberty for safety. Now big old bad Obama merely suggests Congress revisit the AWB from 94-04, and your panties are all in a bunch and “we live in a police state.”
Me thinks you doth protest too much. Is this not what you all wanted? We’ve been living in a police state for 30+ years, sorry you just noticed it now that it affected you.
-Abbie Hoffmann