Over the last week, we have extensively covered the showdown at the Bundy Ranch in Clark County, Nevada; today, things took a turn for the worse as militia from around the country mobilized and started making their way into Nevada.
The showdown started when Federal officials sent in Armed BLM agents to steal Cliven Bundy’s cattle, and in the process closed off over 600,000 acres to the public. This land, which is used by hunters and fisherman throughout Nevada and Arizona, has been officially closed down by the BLM, who says it will remain closed until at least May 12th.
But many in the area are warning that this is about much more than just Cliven Bundy and his cattle. In fact, many people believe it could be about stealing mineral rights and handing the land over to oil shale development. According to documents from the Nevada Bureau of Mines and Geology, over the last couple of years, a number of exploratory drilling sites have been set up within the closure zones.
Whether this is about oil, or yet another attempt by the feds to limit State Rights isn’t really clear at this point. What is clear, is this is much larger than the Bundy family or their Cattle.
In the process of shutting down the land, the BLM has suspended Free Speech in the Area and has actually setup so-called free speech zones miles away from the ranch. That’s right, the federal government has actually banned free speech on over 600,000 acres of public land.
Dave Bundy, son of Bunkerville rancher Cliven Bundy, spoke to us about what the BLM is doing, and how he was beat down by federal officers for taking pictures outside of these “Free Speech Zones.”
Over the weekend, while attempting to document the theft of his father’s cattle, Dave Bundy went onto his father’s land to take pictures of the cattle roundup. In the process, he was confronted by armed BLM agents who threatened to arrest him.
Bundy told the BLM officers, “How can you arrest me? I’m exercising my first amendment rights to be here.” When the BLM officers started advancing on him he dialed 911 in an attempt to get county officers to help him. In his words, “I called to let them know these guys were getting vicious.”
While he was on the phone with 911 operators, he says the BLM officers then “attacked me like a wild pack of dogs, and started stomping and kicking me in the head.”
When asked about the BLM’s claim that he was resisting arrest, Bundy told me, “I was exercising my 1st amendment rights; but you really can’t even consider what I was doing as protesting. All I was doing was taking pictures. I honestly never thought it would come to that.”
BLM attempting to regulate area farmers and ranchers out of existence.
Cliven Bundy is actually the last of 52 ranching families in the area. Over the last couple of decades, the BLM has systematically regulated these ranchers out of business; canceling permits and laying claim to large areas of their land in the process.
Local farmers are warning that this is likely to spread into Arizona and Utah, and voiced their concerns at a Townhall meeting in Moapa, Nevada last night.
I’m reading the issue at hand isn’t the claiming of the land, but that Bundy was grazing his cattle on federal land and not passing the appropriate fees ?
Do I have this wrong or is the report wrong?
And don’t just attack me, if it’s as written or anywhere close I’m as pissed as you, I’m just trying to get the facts.
And “free speech” zones are wrong and completely over the top no matter what caused this, but does anyone have the facts on the orginal issue?
this is America the whole f****** countries a free speech zone like it or not
It is Nevada’s land the Feds should stay out and let Nevada handle it. Mr Bundy is wrong for not paying what he owes but I would still like to see enough people to attach the Feds if not they will keep taking and taking. I stand behind the Bundys. Our government needs overthrown.
Holy cow, get a hold of yourself man.
The American people are not just him and his cowboys. I hunt fish and camp and I have many times had an angry rancher run me off and cite me as a trespasser. These public lands are for all of us and with a low productive desert like this is the cows get all the forage and wildlife get what is left, none. As a result we are screwed by this guy who is trespassing with his cattle on the publics domain I agree with the laws and agree that he must be a subject of the law, as I am if I trespass on his private land!!! GO BLM get him out to make a place for deer and Javelina or whatever will live there with out the Cow pigs being there!
I can’t hear the animals! Not the fish not the deer and not the cows. What’s their opinion? What laws govern them? Laws for wild as well as domesticated animals, they have no knowledge of these laws. The only difference between the wild animals and domesticated animals and or farm animals is the wild animals are given the right to roam freely and domesticated and farm animals have to be confined. Hum! What part of this picture is out of place could it be human influence on this planet?
It should be noted that the BLM has cut off your ability to hunt and fish in that area numerous times over the years. So you go ahead and keep cheering for the BLM who is actively trying to kick hunters and anglers off the land as well.
This is a tough one to call. Let me start by saying I am in no way an Obama supporter.
This country is going to hell, no doubt about, no foreseeable way around it. Every day there is stuff in the mainstream media about something bad related to us collapsing. Just yesterday there was an article in USA TODAY about how 30 years from now retirement will be non-existent. That 85% of people won’t be recieving enough to survive. This situation in Nevada is not being handled well at all!! I’m all for justice and seeing these awful people being brought to justice, but we have to handle in correctly. Cheesy I know, but it’s kinda like so many episodes of cartoon heroes from our childhoods. If we step down to there level, if we react the way they do, then what’s the point of even trying to save this country? At some point it will probably come down to are armed conflict, it’s bound to happen. It will undoubtedly be ugly, but look at the last article posted on this site. “Obama’s budget to include money for gun control”. Don’t forget false flags people. Does are armed militia in the desert not sound like a perfect excuse to enforce tougher gun laws? Does this not sound like we’re playing into Obama’s hands? I agree it will probably become “us vs. them” very soon, but wouldn’t you rather have it on our terms than theirs? If this comes to an armed standoff terrible things will happen. All those people will probably be killed because the federal government isn’t just gonna let them show up and cause havoc, they send in ATF or FBI and then what? The drones the ATF have will just have that much more reason to be there in the public eye. They’ll label us and make us look worse then they already have, come after guns hardcore and have justifiable means to in the eye of the public. This is not a good situation. Mr. Bundy needs to pay his fees if that’s what the law calls for. The BLM is NOT in the right though, they need to back the fuck off and realize “hey, this in escalating to a point it doesn’t need to be”. And if it isn’t about cattle and about oil or mineral rights, then it needs to be addressed seriously, but I’ve been following this closely and reading all the info I can find and it doesn’t seem like that’s what it’s about. Think wisely on this one ladies and gentleman. Obama is an evil fuck, but he’s also very smart and used to be a constitutional lawyer. He’s not sitting by and watching this because he doesn’t have a plan….this is a chess game, and if we want to win we have to move carefully and with a game plan.
You’ve got it Josh. The Feds would like nothing more than being given an excuse to declare martial law – and if this situation escalates, that’s exactly what they’ll have.
I dont care about grazing fees,land use,cattle or turtles. The fact that the government thinks it can tell us where we can speak freely is enough to fight over. If this stands this country wont. Period
I have to agree with your post. Both sides are making way to much out of this and both are int he wrong. Bundy needs to either abide by the laws, pay his fees and let them graze or if he continues to refuse to pay, then he needs to keep his cattle on his own land. Its that simple. The Gov needs to realize that tensions are so high in the country right now, due to our admin, that it will not take much to set off the powder keg.. I do agree that they are crossing the line with a free speech area- that is unconstitutional and I have to wonder what dumba&& had them put that sign up there to start with. Let alone trying to enforce it, but again, the family is at fault, he was taken into custody and resisted so they charged him- if he had just gone into custody he could’ve fought the battle legally. I by no means think our judicial system is perfect, but it works when we work it the right way…. It has been working for all these years, so has the contitution- if it aint broke- don’t fix it… (to those who want to update our constitution- adding new rights is fine, but leave the ones we have already alone.). This is a chess game, sadly, we are going to lose before we win, because we have several more years and more morons than not, to play through yet…
I truely hope this sparks the second revolutionary war.People like judy will hopefully become colateral damage. Im hoping for the govt to make that fatal error that sparks the final rage that wakes this country up.
This is the wrong attitude to have brother. That’s exactly what Obama wants. You can honestly say you want civil war?!? You want no more game of thrones on Sunday’s, or occasional taco bell trips when ou have a craving, or extra money to buy bullets at Walmart, or going to sleep without worrying if your gonna have thugs knocking down your door. No more nights out at the bar with the boys for drinks and looking at cute ladies in sundress, no more coronas on the beach in NC or summer vacations. How can you want that!?! Because that ALL goes out the window when it falls apart aka revolution. You want to see MRAP’s on the streets and every day looking like the bombings in Boston? Cause that’s exactly what I DONT want to happen. Please think this through
Josh, civil war would be better than what the future holds. People like you that want to hold on to the immediate comforts of the now won’t have them in the near future anyway so why delay the inevitable?
Josh, I agree!
What kind of patriot wants a revolutionary war? Who with common sense wants to see their fellow Americans suffer on a scale like this? Not me…I agree that things are out of control , but I also feel there needs to be an intelligent solution to the whole crisis..I have lived all over the world and I do not want to see one american hurt on any level..those that bark the loudest do the least..we have to be smart in resolving this to protect our freedoms and not give anyone an excuse to come in and further dampen our civil liberties..be smart.. Get some money together and be politically pro active…that is the only way.. I have too much love for my country and fellow citizens to even think any other way,,
This is about MUCH more than just the Bundy family or the ranch. The issue is that the American people are so fed up with the overreach of the government that any injustice is becoming a boiling point. Perhaps focusing on the true issue at hand? Just a thought.
Amen!
No one wants a revolution. No one wants to shoot, mangle and murder anyone but when people become oppressed. The British war, the American civil war, World war I, World war II, Vietnam, Korea, Iran, Iraq. The oppressors start revolutions because they can’t pull a rabbit out of their ass, meaning they have nothing better to do than gain a little fame in the history books. Let it be and let FREEDOM ring.
“Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed.” — Thomas Jefferson, the Declaration of Independence
Since the Second Continental Congress declared America’s independence from Great Britain on July 4, 1776, the United States government has sought to realize the fundamental principle on which our nation was founded: that all people have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
This principle was formalized in 1788 with the ratification of the Constitution. That document — still the supreme law of the United States — became the foundation of a federal government that allowed the several states to act together as one, while protecting the sovereignty of each individual state.
To ensure that no person or group would amass too much power, the founders established a government in which the powers to create, implement, and adjudicate laws were separated. Each branch of government is balanced by powers in the other two coequal branches: The President can veto the laws of the Congress; the Congress confirms or rejects the President’s appointments and can remove the President from office in exceptional circumstances; and the justices of the Supreme Court, who can overturn unconstitutional laws, are appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate.
In creating this balance, the framers of the Constitution hoped to form what they called “a more perfect union” — a government that would not only serve the people but would also be a long-lived exemplar to other nations around the world.
Clearly you don’t follow what’s going on in the world. Posting a quote and the exact verbage/description of what our fore fathers wanted doesn’t resolve the worlds issues. This war would be unlike any of the past wars. The entire globe is in massive debt, the petra-dollar is the ONLY thing keeping this economy afloat. And with china, Iran and Russia all buying up gold, they realize the end is near. Posting something TJ said over 100 years ago doesn’t change anything or make your argument any more valid. This is all being done to unravel the constitution and were caught between a rock and a hard place. Armed militia isn’t what this country needs right this moment, there’s a lot we do need, but bullets flying isn’t one of them. So when you post a statement say “why delay the inevitable” and follow it by quoting Thomas Jefferson….makes no sense. This is not as simple as “oh let’s just go to war”. READ YOUR HISTORY. Rome didn’t fall because of any one thing…it fell because of many things. Stop making comments like that. You’re the most dangerous type of person, and when it does go down your goIng to get somebody hurt
Ignorant: lacking knowledge or awareness in general.
See, I can copy and paste too :)
Clearly given our current state in the world it’s a little hard to miss what’s going on! Clearly given the circumstances of my posting you seem to think that the great thinkers (founding fathers of America) just pulled a rabbit out of their ass with no thought and called it a preamble. It currently doesn’t seem to hold any weight in your opinion. I am sure you would have spouted off the same sort of rebuttal at Martin Luther King as he was a great thinker of his time. It’s people like you that pose a greater danger to the social fabric of the world. You clearly read our history but that doesn’t make you made in USA.
an·es·the·sia noun \ˌa-nəs-ˈthē-zhə\: loss of sensation with or without loss of consciousness.
You have been anesthetized by your own fears. That which holds you bound to a stagnant life. Afraid of change, afraid to think outside the box.
Josh,
There was a time when this country was truly great. A little secret here….it was LONG before Wal-Mart, Game of Thrones, crap “food” or internet Lazy-Boy revolutionaries. All idle things eventually rot. PERIOD.
Indeed great words of wisdom. We are afforded but one life, one death and all the suffering we ALLOW any other individual to put upon us.
We are born, we live and we die. In the end anything that mattered in our own personal perspective will have mattered only to the individual.
Calm down kids, it was just an example. I highly doubt you haven’t done one of those things this week though so please come down off the soap box.
“No doubt… At this point, the longer and further they can kick the can down the road the better.
At least we still have some time to get all our ducks in a row.”
That’s a direct quote from marc slavo over on shtfplan. Which is my point exactly. Idc if you go to walmart or like Taco Bell. We all know the collapse is coming, I’d like this show to continue as long as possible so I can continue to stock up and be ever more prepared.
“All comments aforesaid in this post by myself are stated as my opinions.”
When the government gets involved, it’s something deeper than what they want us to know.
As for Judy.. stop blaming the Tea Party for God’s sakes. Talk about being brainwashed. You’re a complete idiot. Have a nice day!
She is incapable of no casting blame for everything on the Tea Party. Idiot is far too kind. Try blithering friggin’
Marxist idiot.
To fight the U.S. Government, Freedom Fighters must be organized into guerilla armies across the world, and use guerilla tactics; never confront the U.S. forces head on, unless the huerilla unit is superior at that point in time. If ‘militia’ personnel confront U.S. forces upfront, face-to-face, it will be a false-flag staged scenario to effect hidden agendas on the part of government forces.
This has two possibilities,
1. the guy is being a whiny bitch and not paying to graze his cattle on PUBLIC land.
2. the government is out of control driving through the ditch about to overcorrect across the road and go off a cliff
99.9% chance of whiny bitch.
Being prior service I find these tough guy revolution comments both funny and also scary. Evidently, most of you blathering such nonsense have never been in war zones because unless you received serious brain trama you know the horror and incredible might this countries military and now law enforcement have. Will active duty military members fight it’s own citizens? I highly doubt it but, the National Guard and all the various militarized alphabet more than likely will. That said their resouces are more than quite formidable which include tanks, A10’s, and fighters. With militia members flocking to this scene the best possible outcome in this escalating mess would be a compromise but, I highly doubt the feds will do that. On the other side of the coin if hets out of control and goes bad and shooting starts it will be an outright slaughter and will probably kick start Martial law and more erosion of our rights.
You nailed it with the first two sentences. I do not see why the National Guard would fight, won’t they follow the active military? If the situation deteriorates into actual fighting, which would be at that point small arms exchanges. If tanks and aircraft enter into the equation you can literally bet the farm that life as we know it is over.
I hope they find all the oil and gas they need in US so their citizens learn what it really means to be pro-American. Being stomped in the head is a small price for “freedom”.
How do you tell the difference between a real ruby ridge event and a staged event? The real event will not get any coverage or help from anyone. The staged events will have everyone and their brother there trying to show off and get air time. Radio and TV personalities will be there trying to look good too. When a real patriot gets into a real situation no one shows up or even cares as they are massacred. The “Militia” will come out and say that person was a nut job so its no big deal.
Hey people if you believe what you say put your name on the comment or shut the fuck up
First off I’m most definitely with Bundy, the fed is like a runaway train. I just want to mention that the amount of spelling and grammatical errors in these posts is quite disconcerting. Nothing can ever discredit a point you’re trying to make like not knowing how to spell correctly. How are you going to stop the fed which consists of some of the smartest people in the world if you can’t even freakin spell? The knowledge of the world is at your fingertrips, use it!
LOL@ the Feds “consisting of some of the smartest people in the world”.
BAHAHAHAHAHA are you serious?
I live by where they are trying to ship the cattle to. the people around here want no part in buying Stolen Cattle.. the Auction house in Richfield Utah is contracted to sell them if they can get them there. I-15 links them to Richfield and I can see it out my window but as far as I heard the Utah port of entry wont let the cows in. for now
the bigger issue is why spend 3 million on a guy that only owes a million in grazing fee’s? is that good business? its not the darn tortoises either.so why? just asking if he was a different color would people be running to the rescue?