Government Warns Survivalists, Conspiracy Theorists & Those who Believe in Personal Liberty are a Terrorist Threat
From the Federal Government giving themselves the power to detain American Citizens without a trial to the White House launching a plan to find Home Grown Terrorists by having schools & churches spy on families, it seems that anyone who believes in personal responsibility or liberty is now considered a threat to the nation.
In a Department of Homeland Security sponsored study titled, “Hot Spots of Terrorism and Other Crimes in the United States”, the Federal Government laid out definitions of who they consider the largest terrorist threats to the country.
The report says that:
“By the 1990s, religious extremism is no longer significantly associated with terrorist attacks; instead, terrorist attacks during this decade are associated with extreme right-wing and single issue ideologies.”
They go on to further define who they believe to be the biggest terrorist threats to the nation:
“Groups that believe that one’s personal and/or national “way of life” is under attack and is either already lost or that the threat is imminent (for some the threat is from a specific ethnic, racial, or religious group), and believe in the need to be prepared for an attack either by participating in paramilitary preparations and training or survivalism. Groups may also be fiercely nationalistic (as opposed to universal and international in orientation), anti-global, suspicious of centralized federal authority, reverent of individual liberty, and believe in conspiracy theories that involve grave threat to national sovereignty and/or personal liberty.”
So in other words, if you believe in personal responsibility, question the government or believe that you need to be prepared; well the government thinks you might be a terrorist! And this isn’t the first time they have said so.
Earlier this year we covered a conference where the F.B.I. warned about the same issues. In fact, they even gave examples of how you could spot one of those dangerous extremists. Their examples included:
- Those who Make References to the Bible
- People who talk about The Constitution of the United States
- Those who speak about U.S. Supreme Court decisions
- Anyone who talks about treaties with foreign governments
- Anyone who may socialize and talk about their ideology.
- Or those that refer to themselves as “constitutionalists” or “freemen”
I guess it’s rather fitting that on this celebration of our Country’s Independence, the people below would now be considered terrorists by our federal government!
Damn we have to get these people out of Gov’t
That will not make a difference they are all the same
The Bush administration first used churches and schools to spy. Who do you suggest we put in?
Ron Paul 2012.
RON PAUL only if you want your liberties back
What WE should do is go live on what is left of the Indian Reservations AND HELP THEM get back to how they lived..They had it right..BUT sadly TRUSTED the “PALEFACE” which I am some part Cherokee and the other part Mutt.
Eagle & the Bear .. NOW I believe it is the Native American Indians and the U.S.A. government as the president now will get re-elected A.K.A. minnie Hitler.. I am sure THE Government is watching and in this sight.. I really don’t care ..I know they will signal us out, BUT before that point comes I will be unfindable.. I figure they will be watching our daily deeds, who we see ,talk to,and above all love. THEY think I made a big mistake in talking about the American Indians. :) !
I have a friend that is part American Indian, I told him we should just overthrow the government and give the country back to his people. His response was “Hell No. You’ve screwed everything up, there’s no reason we’d want it back now.”
I’ve become inclined to beleive him.
Ron Paul 2012
How insightful our forefathers were when they warned us of how dangerous the federal government could become. It is pretty damn ironic that they would now be considered criminals with terrorists ideology by these corrupt bastards that are in power.
At least we are in good company.
Stay ready so you don’t have to get ready!
Concur, I ment concur.
Good!I am a terrorist then..I am a threat and terrorist to tyrannist bastards that threaten our liberty. As of of now let it be known that I am the worst enemy of a government that imposes laws and regulations that undermine the Constitution.. If fact! They are the terrorists and we are the cure.
Come get some!!!!!
Who is that meant for HawkingCo.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance
Again! Who was that comment for HawkingCo. “Come get some”!!!!!
Relax, TjBronson. He was talking to the government.
i guess jehovhs witnesses are now terrorist
oooh can i shoot em now
we will need to institute a “witness” protection program
we will need to institute a “witness” protection program
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Just another reason to continue prepping. What’s the alternative? Die in a FEMA camp? No thanks.
I second that
Well then I guess that means my paternal ancestors, the ones that fought in Washington’s Continental Army, were terrorists too. So I’m in good company then. And frankly I really don’t give a flying f**k what DHS or FBI or Obozo & Co. think of me. Long live America! Land of the Free, Home of the Brave!
What’s even more mind boggling is that the federal gov’t says this kind of stuff so blatantly and yet the people of this country continue to just look the other way. Today I saw some military vehicles in a parking lot for a 4th celebration (I assume anyway). 20 years ago I would have thought “That’s so cool! Those are the vehicles used in wars to protect our country!” Now the big thing that goes through my head is “I really hope that I don’t see that LAV patrolling our streets by the year’s end” :( – Long live the Republic!
Well you seem like all of these. Good luck to all of you we’ll need it.
soooo what they are saying is that every thing we came to this country for,faut and died for, is now considerd terrism. smh, gotta love politics
Did anyone here even glance @ the study long enough to realize it was titled “Hot Spots of Terrorism and Other Crimes in the United States,1970 to 2008”!?? Why the hell are you trying to blame Obama when he didn’t get into office until 1/20/’09?
did you read the report?
yes they stopped the official statistics at 2008 (i have suspicions as to the purpose of stopping pre-obama) but there are plenty of things past that date like this – i.e. it was in 2011 that they classified this – under OBAMA
“Detailed information on each category of ideological motivation can be found in the Profiles of Perpetrators of Terrorism-United States report compiled by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism (Miller, Smarick, and Simone, 2011). Briefly, the report describes each category as follows:
Extreme Right-Wing: groups that believe that one’s personal and/or national “way of life” is under attack and is either already lost or that the threat is imminent (for some the threat is from a specific ethnic, racial, or religious group), and believe in the need to be prepared for an attack either by participating in paramilitary preparations and training or survivalism. Groups may also be fiercely”
a nice twisting of the facts to throw off those like you who read only the headlines (no different then the mainstream media who prints only what obama SAYS and not the reality of what he DOES)
I get so sick of the anti Obama and anti Bush crap. The problem with our government is much deeper than the office of the President. The corruption is like a cancer that has spread through all levels of government. Both main political parties see us the voters as nothing more than dumb animals needed only long enough to get them where they want to go money and power-wise. Then we are thrown to the side of the crumbling highway like an unwanted pet. Until we QUIT supporting the big two parties nothing will change. Also we need to fight to get all political offices down to one or two term limits. No more lifers in either state or federal Congress.
I don’t see how this is relevant to this site. If a person wanted to live off the grid they wouldn’t need high powered rifles ,the constitution ,government ,police ,federal agents. Seems to me that all you need is a compass a good knife and a good axe and a good bag filled with a fire starter a bottle of water and some rations maybe a .22 carbine and maybe sone 550 cord or rope. Nothing that would cause the Feds to look twice at you. Or even if they did what would they see I researched the crap out of knives or axes I shopped around for a sweet lensatic compass. The MSG here has been lost
Well Mike, I would thoroughly enjoy seeing you survive long term with those items.
Do you intend to raise a family in a debris hut off of grubs and vermin?
I spend most weekends out practicing survival skills and I can tell you right now that you’d be scraping by even in the short term with that pack list.
SURVIVAL IS NOT LIVING.
Different Mike here…
I would agree that Survival is not living, it is existing. However, I would rather exist than reside in an Internment… I mean FEMA Camp
So your argument then is that you do need the government? I’m confused.
Maybe you are confused JKR… the previous thread was discussing living off the land with “all you need is a compass a good knife and a good axe and a good bag filled with a fire starter a bottle of water and some rations maybe a .22 carbine and maybe sone 550 cord or rope.”
Then my comment was that I would rather face the odds of “surviving” with just those minimal items than be subjected to a FEMA camp.
If relying on the government means being herded into a FEMA ‘internment’ camp, no I do not need or want the current government. I definitely believe the current staffing of government positions needs to be scrutinized and, like many companies, restructuring of current personnel.
Me Either. I don’t see how any of this is relevant.
Ignore it. Remove it from this site and from your memory.
Nobody should speak out. In fact nobody should do anything just let things continue on as before.
Go back to sleep, or grab a can of beans and running away into the hills.
Sorry, got a bit sarcastic over the dis-info…
I’m screwed! Hide me!!
Yes, during the times of the creation of this country, our Founding Fathers would have been hung for treason.
Over the years, and more recently over the last 45-50 years the United States has made dramatic changes. When a government can get away with assassinating it’s own President and cover it up with internal investigations and reports behind closed doors of the Commission, for which one member became President (Ford) and other members part of Central Intelligence…
“The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them.” – Patrick Henry
So we continue to utilize a predominately two-party system where the left side and the right side seldom agree, except for when it comes to their own pay increases, special retirement plans, independent healthcare plans for which they all benefit. What ever happened to serving is an honor, and once your term is over, it is over! No more accrued benefits! Oh my mistake… they passed legislation allowing this to happen.
“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.” – Abraham Lincoln
So now were are yet again faced with two predominate parties that have more finances individually than any third party combined, and we continue to get the wool pulled over our eyes.
“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!” – Benjamin Franklin
And of course, the powers that be are working on restricting the ability to possess arms, diminishing the possibility of the “well-armed lamb” being able to contest the vote.
“The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed the subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty.” – Adolph Hitler
The problem is complacency, most people want to claim they have freedom and unalienable rights, but over the years, behind our backs, hidden deep within hundreds of pages of laws passed by “elected official” with their own interests in mind as compared to their constituents, our Founding Fathers would be turning in their graves for the “people” allowing all the work that was done for the creation of once the greatest nation in the world to be dwindled away.
Unfortunately, it may have already come to the point where it is too late to fight, as demonstrations will be considered an act of terrorism and arresting all participants who can be detained indefinitely without the right to a trial; let alone what a rebellion would do… that would become another “National Emergency” as deemed by Fearless Leader with naive armed military blindly following the orders of their superiors. I would venture that most of the newly enlisted personnel have little knowledge of the Constitution, for which they swore an oath to protect, against all enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC (even elected officials hint hint).
Millenniumfly is not the only one screwed here!
Glad to know that the nazi government hasnt been wiped out totaly,what laws are they going to pass next. I have a special needs kid o wonder if the government is golng to decide if my kid has the right to medical care or further more the right to live being that he,s autistic,natzi government all over again.wonder what ethnic group they will pick this time to wipe out,hitler isnt dead after all he just moved from germany to the white house.
Sounds like the Gov is making big plans for the rest of us.
any time reference to the Constitution or the Bill of Rights is considered by the government to be of ‘anti-govenment’ or ‘terrorist’ thinking it is a sad commentary on the state of government. It is long past time to have ousted all of those in government, particularly the federal government. The only thing those people care about is their own power and income. When any federal senator who sits for one term can retire with full income and benefits it is again long past time to clean house.
Sadly now when we claim our rights under the Bill of Rights we are terrorists. When you give up liberty for security you have neither. I don’t know who said it first but it applies more than ever today.
well the feds are watching boy scouts for sure, to many merit badges and they come and get you.
Of course the feds are watching boy scouts… almost every Eagle Scout (21 specific Merit Badges) gets a letter of recognition from one of their local elected officials, either a Senator or Congressman; it becomes a matter of record.
We do need to be cautious of those who use their freedom and the Constitution to justify corrupt agendas and goals. The Oklahoma bombing criminals are a good example. Also, some of the “militia” types just want to play soldier.
We are not that important. The few real preppers out there are not a threat to the government and the Feds have better things to do than “target” us.
It seems that some preppers (me included) have some of the traits that home grown terrorists would also have but that does not make us terrorists. No more than someone who loves to be around and play with children is a pedophile.
If you think having a couple of dozen guns, a few thousand rounds of ammo, and a year of food makes you a person of interest to the FBI or DHS you are paranoid. If you talk about killing police officers, or member of the government, or judges you WILL be a target; and having those “prep” items has nothing to do with why they want to get to know you better.
YOU keep telling yourself that sport