What happened to America?
I know this is a survival site, and I usually try to stay away from politics, but I think what’s going on in our country is a matter of survival. The survival of our liberty, our way of life, and our traditional American values.
Can America Survive?
Let’s take a look at where we came from and where we are today.
| AMERICAN HEREOS OF THE PAST | OUR LEADERS TODAY | ||
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| Sure, we want to go home. We want this war over with. The quickest way to get it over with is to go get the bastards who started it. The quicker they are whipped, the quicker we can go home. The shortest way home is through Berlin and Tokyo. And when we get to Berlin, I am personally going to shoot that paper hanging son-of-a-bitch Hitler. Just like I’d shoot a snake!” General George S. Patton | I’ve never said that troops should be withdrawn. What I’ve said is, is that we’ve got to make sure that we secure and execute the rebuilding and reconstruction process effectively and properly, and I don’t think we should have an artificial deadline when to do that.” President Barack Obama April 5, 2004 | ||
| In war there is no substitute for victory. General Douglas MacArthur | I believe myself that the secretary of state, secretary of defense and – you have to make your own decisions as to what the president knows – (know) this war is lost and the surge is not accomplishing anything as indicated by the extreme violence in Iraq yesterday” Sen. Harry Reid | ||
| May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won’t. General George S. Patton | The secret authorization of brutal interrogations is an outrageous betrayal of our core values, and a grave danger to our security – Barrack Obama | ||
| On every occasion…[of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us] conform to the probable one in which it was passed. Thomas Jefferson | I think it’s a remarkable document; the original constitution, as well as Civil War amendments. But I think it is an imperfect document. And. I think it’s a document that reflects some deep flaws in American culture…….I have to side with Justice Breyer’s view of the Constitution—that it is not a static but rather a living document, and must be read in the context of an ever-changing world. Barack Obama | ||
| I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I traveled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer. Benjamin Franklin | It’s not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind ‘ya, that they got a chance at success, too. I think that when you spread the wealth around; it’s good for everybody. Barack Obama | ||
| “No free man shall ever be de-barred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government. Thomas Jefferson | Almost all gun control legislation is constitutionally fine. And, if the court is right, then fundamentalism does not justify the view that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to bear arms. White House regulatory “czar”Cass Sunstein | ||
| The freedom of speech may be taken away and dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep, to the slaughter.” George Washington | It should be clear by now that my focus here is not freedom of speech or the press. This freedom is all too often exaggeration. At the very least, blind references to freedom of speech or the press serve as a distraction from the critical examination of other communications policies. FCC diversity czar – Mark Lloyd |
So how does our media and our government officials responded to an attack on our military?
Let’s review the case of the Fort Hood Attack:
- Almost immediately after the attack the FBI announced it wasn’t terror-related.
- General Casey stated “I’m concerned that this increased speculation could cause a backlash against some of our Muslim soldiers. And I’ve asked our Army leaders to be on the lookout for that”
- Time magazine blamed the attack on post-traumatic stress disorder
- The Washington Post ran the headline “The lonely life of alleged Fort Hood shooter,” with the subtitle: “‘He was mistreated. He didn’t have anybody. He was all alone,’ says neighbor.”
- CNN is pushing stories on “a backlash against Muslim American soldiers.”
- Chris Mathews of MSNBC asked live on air “‘It’s not a crime to call Al Qaeda is it?”
And how does the President Respond?
President Obama warned Americans “we don’t know all the answers yet, and I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts.” (kinda strange since he had no problem jumping to conclusions when he said Sgt. James Crowley “acted stupidly”)
What we need:
American Spirit, the will to survive & the will to kick some ass!
What a contrast, frankly it scares the hell out of me that our country has fallen this far into the gutter.
Great General Patton Clip, we need some more REAL MEN like that leading our country. Get rid of all this P.C. Bullshit. We all know who did this to call this anything other than terrorism is boarding on treason!
I believe that we’re bordering on the frustrations our founding fathers felt in 1760~… I do not want a fight; I do not want revolution. I fear that it is the only viable option given the Saddam & Gomorrah, PC, socialist corrupt machine that has consumed the shining city on the hill.
Are there other options? Is there another way to stop this train barreling down the mountain?
Sorry, but I disagree with this post. I understand the reasoning behind it. This man committed a terrible crime and we have to bring those responsible to justice. However we cannot just go to war or commit wide military operations to something unless we are 100 percent sure of all the facts and know what we are getting into. I believe that doing otherwise is exactly what got us into the terrible situation that is Iraq. Jumping into conflict and committing hundreds, if not thousands, of American soldiers to their deaths without a second thought is precisely what our country DOESN’T need right now. We cannot allow anger to cloud our judgment.
Don’t get me wrong. I don’t want to start an argument and I respect your opinion. I just had to give some input from the other side of the debate.
Great article that gets right to the meat of the problems we are now becomeing aware of. And the sad thing about it is it’s been happening slowly for years.
Great, as ron said, these things have been happening for a long time and more increasingly here in australia too
This is a great site. And I have linked it in your articles at two of the journals that I write for.
But my question to you is:Why would you or have been staying away from politics?
Participation, or rather non-participation of Americans is part of the reason for the downfall of our government and those running it. Everyone must be involved, all citizens have the responsibility of voting – and that has much to do with politics. Bad politicians is what makes politics distasteful – so let’s get rid of them.
Anyway, I like what you are doing here and the information and knowledge is good to have – ya just never know.
Keep up the good work.
Sorry I am late to the party. I just read the article and plan on giving copies to my friends and family. I agree with this article and it makes me sick this country has sunk so low. I also agree with the comment about needing more REAL MEN to run this country. The youth of this nation has become little babies afraid to get their hands dirty, afraid of getting their feelings hurt, and a bunch of uneducated fools. I hope people wake up and prevent further damage to this great nation. I pray it is not too late for a change.
Well done and a great post – my only regret is that I didn’t write it…
Dude, stick to survival. I know a lot of us are kooks, but I hate to be reminded of it.
I understand the emotions behind this post, but I have to disagree with it in general. When I read articles like this, the first thing I think is “what are you talking about?” I’m looking for specifics, not metaphors. “Fallen into the gutter”, “it’s been happening slowly for years”, “real men” vs “babies afraid to get their hands dirty”. What are you talking about? Say the damn words. Enough with the bumper sticker-isms. John McCain was here in Canada last week saying the exit strategy in Afghanistan must be victory. That sounds nice and everything but IT DOESN’T MEAN ANYTHING. Describe victory to me in the “war on terror”. Please. Because I don’t think anyone, any country, can defeat terrorism. That’s not to say that terrorism will win. It’s just a tactic. A horrible, despicable tactic that will always exist to be used by one group or another desperate to get their way. It can be a muslim group, a christian group, a sikh group. Heck there were Jewish terrorists in British Palestine before Israel was created. If some country felt America was a threat and decided to invade and occupy, I promise that a lot of you guys would probably rise up and commit acts of terrorism against that invader. But you’d call yourselves freedom fighters. Hypocrites, I say.
I don’t believe anybody should be the victim of terrorism. No person, no country deserves that. And that includes the USA. But there’s no way to destroy it militarily without becoming the bad guy in the end. There has to be another way. And calling every stupid murderer a terrorist simply because they’re muslim is nothing more than ignorant racism. PC has nthing to do with it.
I appreciate you reading this. It’s merely my opinion. I just don’t believe that “kill them all and let god sort them out” should be the mantra of the good guys.
To claim that we would all be Terrorists if our country were invaded or some such is BS. fighting for freedom and killing non combatants or unarmed soldiers INTENTIONALY is a war crime. Resistance is not terrorisim. As far as Ft. Hood. The man was trained in the same mosque as several of the 9/11 guys. He openly spoke to justify the islamist extremists. He even tried to convert several of his paitients to extremisim if not Islam alone. He had over20 communiques with Al’queda over 2 years. how can one say he was not a terrorist simply because he was his own cell. I am a veteran and have been in security for over 10 years. I am an American and a conservative. We should trace the origin of these attacks against us. Crush the enemy and go home. Let them know what happens when you screw with us. We shouldnt meddle in nation building and the U.N. is a mistake. Lets get back to our roots and get back to where we belong. A respected nation who works hard to care for its own and keep them free.
Plain and simple, President Obama is sympathetic to all factions of the Muslim cause…
I think the best thing Americans can do to restore America is to never turn their televisions to a cable network news channel (or just don’t turn them on at all). The news is unyieldingly depressing, politically slanted or just plain unnecessary to air. The last time I heard an even remotely intellectual political thought on TV was, ironically enough, on The Daily Show. A show that makes fun of the news. We have just been bombarded with the thoughts and opinions of people like Beck, Limbaugh, O’ Rielly, Maddow, Matthews and whoever else might chime in, that this is now how many of us view the world. Sites like Facebook and Twitter make it worse. Now Senators can post a “Tweet” about how boring the meeting of the Senate Finance Committee was today. The reality is that many of our leaders are no different than many of us. They want power, financial security and 15 minutes of fame. The few that might actually walk the halls of the Capitol Building with true, honest to God principle are too few and far between to make much difference. The author of this article seemed to single Obama and his administration out more than some of our other recent Presidents. This isn’t surprising in these days, but I don’t necessarily think that any of our recent leaders have been more or less worthy of the criticism. What is shocking to me is that our Founding Fathers are utterly neglected. Their names are thrown around and yet people know little more about them than what our 4th graders might know. Freedom of Speech isn’t about running around calling the President a stupid Muslim Kenyan n—–. If you read the words of the Founding Fathers, there was always a sense of academic discourse…of real debate and discussion..no matter how high the stakes were (Not that they were above name calling.) That’s what is missing today. Real thought. Real debate. Debate where you get a book out, research facts and then use those facts to support your arguement. Politicians don’t do it. The Media doesn’t do it. And if we don’t start doing it real soon, this country is done for.
When did it become wrong to question the government? The last 16 years was the straw that broke the camels back. If it was now for the 2 party system we would more than likley would not be at war right now.
I can not rember, maybe someone can help. The quote had something to do with a politician being able to support himself by his own means and not have just the job of a politician. The reason behind it was to keep then from worring about losing the seat so that they could concern themselves about the public. This is where we went wrong.
Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government.
James Madison
That is what I have to say about the Constition.
Nice post, the tie to survival is very real in every sense of the word I’m afraid. Good job.
Superb post, absolutely EXCELLENT comparative quotes. This garbage in DC has got to be taken out, and the place fumigated. Then, perhaps, we can actually populate it with persons who believe in what actually MADE our nation great.
You really can’t compare what happened in the late 1700’s to today. There are now over 6 billion people on our planet. The earth cannot support this many people. Most people on this planet still believe in some ancient religion that sets them up as special. This could be Islam, Christianity , Judaism or almost any other. All these people with antiquated ideas have access to modern technology. Our technology has run rampant as has our population. Government cannot be as simple as most of you seem to want it. Yes our country will fail; all do eventually. It’s up to us all to do what we can do delay that failure. We need to start by clearing our minds of bias and working together. The task in Washington is huge and complicated. It can’t be fixed by just “taking out the garbage.”
I prefer this site to the others for the simple fact that you have always stayed away from politics. The minute someone says Obama is a socialist/communist, or Bush is a fascist, or that either one is the second coming of Hitler, or that either one is the second coming of Christ, you quickly turn away anyone with an opposing view.
There are plenty of natural disasters that keep the discussion away from politics (if you stay away from discussing why they happen). Your average guy sitting on his roof in the blazing NOLA sun wasn’t trying to figure out who was to blame; he was trying to figure out how he was going to stay alive for 5 more minutes.
There is way too much good information on this site to divide your audience, and prevent some from coming back.
Keep up the good work!
I have to say, I’m a little disappointed. This is generally why I stay away from “survivalist culture” and stick to my self. Politics are completely irrelevant. Survival is what I thought we were here to discuss. I’m also disturbed by the fact that all pro-firearm citizens and survivalists are bundled into the conservative rank. You guys can spout tired old rhetoric while I’m sharpening my knives and re-packing my ruck for 100th time.
I totally agree with Goodwin and Markersmark, maybe a few others because I didn’t read each one fully. I’m brand new here and you guys have probably been at this stuff for awhile.
We do not live in the times of Washington, Jefferson or Franklin, or even Patton and Mac Arthur. I did swear to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I did not swear to defend corporate powers or any political party.
Of the survival sites that I have been looking at, this one seems to have the least amount of political rhetoric, making it the best one in my opinion and I hope it stays that way and that everyone follows a common goal.