Survival Food – 56 Long-Term Survival Foods and Supplies at the Grocery Store

When disaster strikes, there’s a pretty good chance your local grocery stores are going to be stripped bare in a matter of hours. From panicked people trying to stock up on last minute supplies to those who failed to prepare for even short-term disasters and now find themselves facing the prospect of starving, your local grocery store is going to look like a battleground in a post-apocalyptic movie.

Most grocery stores have a maximum 3 day supply of goods on hand before they run dry. That means even short-term disasters like hurricanes, floods and earthquakes can cause supply chain problems that will quickly wipe out their inventory. Now throw in a long-term disaster that cuts off supplies for months, and you have a real recipe for disaster.

To be prepared to face an emergency situation where food supplies are blocked, you need to invest in a long-term food supply. This supply should be made up of six months’ worth of emergency food that has a long-shelf life, and is something that you already eat.

With the help of suggestions that have come in from our readers, we have compiled a list of the top food items and emergency supplies that you can buy at the grocery store. The list contains foods with a long shelf-life, items that have multiple uses, and supplies that are great for bartering.

Long-Term Survival Foods

Survival Food that adds flavor & comfort:

Comfort foods can be a huge morale booster during a stressful survival situation, something that needs to be kept in mind when starting to stockpile food. These four things can be stored for over 10 years, and are a great way to add a little bit of flavor to your cooking. If stored properly they will probably last indefinitely.

  1. Salt
  2. Sugar – Brown or White
  3. Raw Honey
  4. Alcohol – Whiskey, Vodka, etc…

Base cooking ingredients with a long shelf life:

The following categories of food make up the foundation of most recipes and are all things that store well.

Hard Grains: Stored properly hard grains have a shelf life of around 10 – 12 years.

  1. Buckwheat
  2. Dry Corn
  3. Kamut
  4. Hard Red Wheat
  5. Soft White Wheat
  6. Millet
  7. Durum wheat
  8. Spelt

Soft grains: These soft grains will last around 8 years at 70 degrees, sealed without oxygen.

  1. Barley,
  2. Oat Groats,
  3. Quinoa
  4. Rye

Beans: Sealed and kept away from oxygen the following beans can last for around 8 – 10 years.

  1. Pinto Beans
  2. Kidney Beans
  3. Lentils
  4. Lima Beans
  5. Adzuki Beans
  6. Garbanzo Beans
  7. Mung Beans
  8. Black Turtle Beans
  9. Blackeye Beans

Flours and Mixes and Pastas: 5 – 8 years

  1. All Purpose Flour
  2. White Flour
  3. Whole Wheat Flour
  4. Cornmeal
  5. Pasta
  6. White Rice ( up to 10 years)


  1. Coconut oil – Coconut oil has one of the longest shelf lives of any kind of oil. It can last for over 2 years and is a great item to add to your survival food supply list.

Survival Foods that are great during short-term disasters:

The following items are great for short-term emergencies, and will stay fresh for a long period of time. During most disasters, you’re going to want to have food that requires very little cooking, or can be eaten without any preparation at all. Make sure some of your stockpile includes these types of food.

Other good survival foods: 2 – 5 years of shelf life

  1. Canned Tuna
  2. Canned Meats
  3. Canned Vegetables & Fruits
  4. Peanut Butter
  5. Coffee
  6. Tea
  7. Ramen Noodles – not the greatest food in the world but they are very cheap so they made the survival food list.
  8. Hard Candy
  9. Powdered milk
  10. Dried herbs and spices

Items that can be used for more than cooking:

  1. Apple Cider Vinegar – Cleaning, cooking and has antibiotic properties
  2. Baking Soda – Cleaning, cooking, etc…
  3. Honey – Mentioned again for its antibiotic properties and wound healing.

Nonfood items to stock up on at the grocery store:

  1. Bic Lighters
  2. Toilet Paper
  3. Soaps
  4. Bottled Water
  5. Vitamins
  6. Medicines
  7. Bandages
  8. Peroxide
  9. Lighter fluid
  10. Canning Supplies
  11. Charcoal



  1. larie hall
    September 16, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    I’m looking for a easy printable ‘Survival’ list. I’m 73 yr.old grandma. can you send one?thank you. Larie

    • john
      January 9, 2012 at 1:45 pm

      you should change it to say raw honey because cooked honey does not work as well as raw honey in healing and such

      • timber
        January 24, 2014 at 7:28 pm


        • Lorraine
          July 27, 2014 at 12:42 pm

          No Frank is going to the government for help that’s how dumb he is.

        • bob dempsey
          August 22, 2015 at 3:28 pm

          pay attenyion to whats going on around you !!!!!

          • Grace
            September 7, 2015 at 8:42 pm

            The public has been warned on so many levels, that there is a very big possibility of an earthquake. Even the local churches are preparing there congregations.

            We buy raw honey at the local farm here and just store the mason jars in a cool place. I would steer away from processed sugar, it lowers immunity for up to 8 hours after ingestion.

            A few other ideas, organic popcorn is a good addition and several bottles of an organic Non- GMO ( no dyes, no hydrogenated oil) powdered protein drink with all the essential vitamins and minerals.

            A dozen walkie- talkies with extra batteries and solar powered battery recharger. This can help a neighbors communicate in case the grid goes down.

          • Judy
            September 26, 2015 at 6:33 am

            People, if you pay attention to the news, you’ll realize, “not all is well with the U.S.” We are living on borrowed time, and, at any moment, this propped up image of safety and prosperity, is going to collapse in to absolute chaos. Up until recently, prepping for a future, cataclysmic event never entered my mind, even though I have been through Hurricans Rita and Ike. I’ve had to depend on FEMA to provide food and water. I’ve stood in the long, slow, lines at Walmart, watching desparate people rushing around, grabbing whatever they could to fill their carts. Not a pleasant experience. Now, I’ve heard Obama talk about “the chaotic climate” and how it will affect our national security. How can climate affect national security? Think about that, folks. Something really bad is coming upon our country, people. Maybe not tomorrow, or next week, but soon. I don’t know about you, but, I’m preparing now. I don’t want to be one of those panicked people in a grocery store, fighting over the last loaf of bread… As the old cliche’ goes; “I’d, rather have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it” …

      • Jack Hammer
        February 16, 2014 at 10:24 am

        Very true. Processed honey has been pasteurized and most of the good stuff is removed during the process. Buy raw honey which is crystalline, usually dull yellow in color and has a very mellow sweet taste. It’s a bit more expensive but well worth it. Also, raw honey has quite a bit of bee pollen in it which is a natural “vaccine” for people that are allergic to various pollens. Eat the raw honey from the area you live in to build up your immunity to the pollen in that area.

        • Joan
          March 30, 2014 at 10:38 am

          You can sometimes buy honey from a local producer in large quantities. I buy 5 gallon buckets of it (for resale, but I could use it too). The only problem is that in colder weather it solidifies (yes, eve in the house) and getting a 5 gallon bucket of honey to melt will have to wait until the weather is hot enough to place it outside.

          • Tami
            April 21, 2014 at 1:56 pm

            When the honey is in a liquid state, try to put it into smaller containers (like maybe 1 gallon jars?). Then, when it crytalizes, place that container into a larger container with hotish water around it……….. NEVER boil. NEVER microwave! Hope that this beekeeper has been able to assist you.

          • September 4, 2014 at 11:24 am

            Thanks Tami. I just now saw your post I usually jar it up as soon as I get it home, but last winter I didn’t need it jarred, so I left it in the bucket. This year I will make sure I put it all in jars at once! Much easier to bring back to liquid form that way.

          • Dan
            January 18, 2016 at 10:49 pm

            Store ( raw * organic ) honey in opaque plastic bottles…above 50 degrees and it shouldn’t crystallize. I’ve stored and used honey up to 4 years with no issue. If ever your honey does crystallize- Luke warm water is best around container. Heating honey makes it taste sweeter – changes sugar structure. Honey is best pure – untampered.

            Look into Honeyflow.

        • Tami
          April 21, 2014 at 1:52 pm

          Not all raw honey is a dull yellow in color! I have extracted honey that is dark brown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am a beekeeper! Some raw honey can be the lightest of yellow……. some almost black! Depends upon what the bees are feeding on! Much of the store bought “pure” honey is actually “purified” and then heat treated and then diluted with corn syrup. KNOW YOUR BEEKEEPER!

          • k
            November 4, 2014 at 9:00 am

            Tami: You either need to chill or work on more prudent application of exclamation points. It sounds like you are flipping out over the small stuff.

          • Donna
            October 19, 2015 at 10:53 am

            She’s right, though – a staggeringly huge percentage of store-bought honey is adulterated with corn syrup. There have been official tests that show this. Because it’s adulterated with other sugars, it’s not going to store as well as real honey.

            So, buying directly from a beekeeper is probably the only way to be truly sure that you’re getting pure, raw honey. (And color has nothing to do with telling whether or not it’s raw).

          • Hope
            January 22, 2016 at 8:56 am

            Tami, I appreciate any and all advise and help and suggestions

            Thank you

          • Teri Anderdon
            March 7, 2016 at 12:03 pm

            How do you go about finding beekeepers in your area ? Some kids i know moved into a trailer this fall, but now that the weather is warming up a bit and they found out they have an attic full of bees. They dont know what to do, and i dont either. Help ! Thanx !

          • Stephen Munro
            December 25, 2016 at 11:46 am

            Tami, where are you located?? So I can “Know my Beekeeper”

      • AL
        May 14, 2014 at 6:34 pm

        the honey referenced to was “raw honey” said it specifically as the 3rd item on the list

        • Brent
          July 1, 2014 at 9:49 am

          I’m sure the author corrected this mistake years ago. The oldest comment dates back to Sept 2010.

          • samantha
            September 5, 2014 at 9:17 pm

            why do you care about the honey so much how about you prepare.

        • Bonita
          September 16, 2016 at 7:41 am

          I saw that too, Al. Some people can’t read. smh

      • Mary Young
        January 19, 2015 at 9:59 am

        you also might considered dehydrated honey only about 11 dollars for 3 pounds and much lighter can be rehydrated for most uses and lasts forever

        • Susin
          October 17, 2015 at 8:35 pm

          I would like to know where you get dehydrated honey?
          And any debate (serious only please) on freeze dried vs. Dehydrated. I am looking at a home freeze dry appliance from Harvest Right.

          • Joan
            July 11, 2016 at 6:53 am

            Auguson Farms is good. Walmart carries a large supply of Dehydrated Survival Foods now. You can order from your nearest store and if you spend $50, they ship to your door via UPS for free within a couple of days. I love the honey and dehydrated butter and eggs.

        • Donna
          October 19, 2015 at 10:56 am

          Good point. They pulled that stuff out of a pyramid, rehydrated it, and it was fine, lol.

          ‘Lasts forever’ isn’t figurative!

          As for where to get it – I literally Googled ‘dehydrated honey’ and got a bunch of shopping results in 3 seconds.

      • Joan
        July 11, 2016 at 6:51 am

        You should buy your honey from a local farmer’s market. Most of the so called honey in the grocery stores are not true honey. Check the labels closely. I had been buying Kroger Pure Honey and when I checked the label, all it should have said was honey, however, it had corn syrup as an ingredient.

    • Frank
      January 16, 2012 at 10:22 am

      73 – list includes:
      Depends, Prune Juice, Apple sauce, and – oh yah… you are 73 – either get with some young bucks that don’t mind having you around for stories and good-ole day tales… or get ready to be a casualty.

      • Sheila
        January 22, 2012 at 9:41 pm

        Hope you make it to 73, Frank. I see some really bad KARMA in store for you, bud!

        • John
          March 19, 2012 at 2:34 pm

          Frank, you’re an ignorant man whose life is a meaningless pit, wasting good air that Mrs. Hall could use.

          • Sue
            March 30, 2012 at 7:16 am

            I cannot believe that there are such idiotic people as Frank. Who the hell does he think he is to make such rude comments as he has. People like him disgusts me.

          • Midgainc
            August 28, 2013 at 7:43 pm

            Give frank a hall pass, guys. He is being mean, but wtshtf, mrs, hall needs to know what she could need. For older people, it could get very hard, very fast. They will need the support of family and friends like never before. Someone give her a basic list that will not overwhelm her.

          • teresa darlene
            February 7, 2014 at 5:40 am

            frank will make some pet owner very happy..i would gladly feed him to my dog and cats to save a lil food for them

          • Pam
            May 24, 2014 at 10:38 am

            Au contraire y’ll. Old people will be valued. They know how to make, repair, grow, and can things. They lived thru the depression and have knowledge to offer for survival and skills that are all but lost now.

          • tray
            July 4, 2014 at 7:52 pm

            What mr frank must know is she has one of the very best prepping item and its free life has given it to her and its called knowledge

          • Andy
            October 17, 2014 at 6:07 am


          • Jack
            November 8, 2014 at 6:38 am

            teresa darlene

            I’m not so sure I would feed frank to your pets. It
            might leave a bad taste in their mouth like he does us.

          • jonathon
            June 22, 2015 at 6:15 pm

            john mate leave him alone he was just pretty much saying it would be good for an old person to be there

        • Ken
          September 6, 2014 at 2:37 pm

          Frank sounds like a bit of a loser, and I too hope he makes it to 73 because he could use some life experience and a big heap of wisdom!

          • Brian
            April 10, 2016 at 7:24 pm

            WOW!All this over honey??I’m 44 and if you want to say my mother is old then it’s it’s an opinion.Fact is my generation don’t know half of what your elders do. Gardening, canning food,etc..Respect,listen n learn.

        • jim
          October 10, 2014 at 6:04 am

          Screw him
          Stay strongSheila.
          His mouth will makehim the ccasualty

        • Hector
          February 10, 2015 at 9:33 am


          • Hector
            February 10, 2015 at 9:34 am


        • Mike
          September 14, 2015 at 3:58 pm

          To Frank: Frank, judging from your insensitive and age degrading comments, I suspect you are fairly young and trying hard (too hard) to be funny. Probably the wrong place for that. However I will say that my mother is 78 years of age just got her first AR last year and can put a good pattern of holes in a target at 200 yards. She don’t get around real fast but she gets around. AND on her last birthday she asked me for an military surplus MSS (Modular sleep system). She’s an RN and has a lot to offer young bucks WSHTF. Who knows how many lives her medical training could save? Or her AR15 for that matter. I’m 55 and much wiser than I was 10-20-30 years ago. I’d take 10 men and women my age against the same your age any day. With one exception I’m giving up a 55 year old for my 78 year old Mom.

      • Off Grid Survival
        January 22, 2012 at 10:07 pm

        I think it’s pretty arrogant to suggest that you are somehow better equipped to survive because of your age.

        You can bet that there are a lot of oldtimers out there that are going to be far better off than some of the ignorant youth we have in today’s society.

        For those that doubt what someone in their 70’s can do I think you need to take a look at this video and see what a true survivalist is made of.

        • jefron
          March 14, 2012 at 9:21 am

          Yes that was a very unnecessary statement. I think one big part of survival is the capacity to stay friendly. having support of anyone is always good in emergency situations.

          • Random Things Instead of a Name
            February 16, 2014 at 1:53 pm

            jefron, having support is alwasy good, yes, but when shit hits the fan and everyday survival things become very, very scarce, people will strangers will kill you without a second thought. Anyone that wants to last more than a few months at least. Go ahead and say you won’t, but you aren’t in that position yet. Bottom line, what Frank said was mean, but accurate. Sometimes, people can’t afford to be slowed down by an elder. Who knows how Mrs. Hall could end up?

          • John
            November 14, 2014 at 4:23 pm

            Random Things Instead of a Name I hate to think there are people in the world as ignorant as you are trying to prove yourself. If I were you I wouldn’t mess with Oldtimers because you most likely will be taken home in a body bag. It’s stupid thinking like yours that will end your life at a very young age

        • Mike
          October 15, 2012 at 1:10 pm

          I hope Frank comes to my door looking for food.

          • myra w
            October 6, 2015 at 12:27 pm

            Frank, we know now that you’r older family members (mother) and who-ever are not important to you !!! You will pay for this…. I promise !!! These remarks will bite u in tht BUT..!!!!

        • Coyote
          November 12, 2012 at 10:00 pm

          Its ok Frank will be one of the first to go Its always the cocky ones that “know everything” that go first in survival situations. its so likely that even Hollywood movies portray this time and time again. See ya Frank so long , hope deep throwing the hot dog was worth it!

          • piling on the frank bashing bus!
            March 7, 2014 at 7:27 pm

            “its so likely that even hollywood movies portray it”… ahhhahaha. thanks for that one. oh boy, I don’t know when, but I am totally going to use that on someone in a matter-of-fact tone at the next possible opportunity. I love internet logic.

        • Patricia
          August 25, 2013 at 6:24 pm

          Thank you Off Grid! The only positive about Frank’s comment is to see the kind outpouring of responses from other people. Maybe there’s hope for us yet.

          • Stephen Munro
            December 25, 2016 at 11:56 am

            Amen Patricia

        • jerry dewitt
          October 4, 2013 at 4:02 pm

          Most of the comments about the old guy are pretty lame and immature, to say the least. I am 64 and I could still just about whip any of you whipper snapper asses.
          Answer me this. When your computer goes dead, then what are you going to use for a brain ?
          In the old days we did not have computers and had to learn things out of books. YOU tell me how to gut a deer, or weave a saddle cinch, or lash a pack saddle, or make a barrel out of wood or make a wagon wheel, or weld iron pieces together using a forge, or how to machine metal parts by hand, or make gunpowder, or do ammunition reloadiing, or how to build mussel loading 3-1/2″ bore aritllery, or were trained how to kill by the military ?
          You kids today that have been raised pacisifsts could hardly harm a fly. Us old cusses could slit your throat and not miss one spit of our chaw of tobacco.
          I know all of that kind of thing and a thousand other things that you young arragont farts only wish you knew.
          Went through the boy scouts when it was still worth something and was taught how to survive, the manual of arms, marching and the morris code. Drop me anywhere in the rocky mtns and you cold pick me up in 30 days, without a problem. Lets see any of you kids do that. I know what you can eat and what you can’t, and what water you can drink and which you can’t, and you don’t. You would be dead in a week.
          NO. When it comes to surviving, you better grab onto ever old person you can get your hands on, because they have the knowledge base that is going to keep you alive, besides having the financial resources to put away arms and 50K+ stores of amminition and food stores.
          So back off kiddo.

          • Tammy Lee
            October 7, 2013 at 2:37 pm

            Well said Mr.Dewitt. My mom is 75 and she can still run circles around me . She go to Walmart and walk around for hours without tiring while I’m barely dragging along behind . I have no doubt that if the time ever comes where survival skills are needed the older folks will do just fine especially with a lot of family support .Thanks again for putting that guy in his place for the rude comment he made about Mrs. Hall .

          • Lori
            October 10, 2013 at 6:40 am

            Your amazing Jerry, and I would love to pat you on the back! You are right 100%! I am 43 and raised by my Father who taught many many survival techniques. My Grandmother canned and taught me how to grow and preserve food naturally…thank God for the good old days!

          • Noah
            November 14, 2013 at 4:16 pm

            i can do all that at the age of 23 and i have enough guns and ammo and a bunker i built off in the woods by a water source to assume young people forgot how to do basic things based on that fact that we can use a computer i live in a city but i know how to live off the land and fish hunt bow and arrow and rifles what frank said was true to some point the elder people without the meds they take would die off faster ( i am not saying young people don’t need it to ) they will have to fight a group of people who want what they have are you ready to defend whats yours? older people heal slower tend to move slower due to the harder life they had to go through in there day and age young people will die off a lot of them will really with the lack of skills and knowledge older people have young will need older people for there wisdom and the older people will need the younger people to help them get around and help defend self’s so neither of you are wrong the fact is we as humans think we are civil but when it comes down to it we are animals and will do anything to survive

          • Paul
            November 21, 2013 at 8:54 am

            Hey Jerry,

            Give the guy named Frank a pass. We need people around like him……. When the game are all gone, our stores of supplies are gone, and we are all in a position that we are starving, he can serve a purpose. The pygmies call us long pork for a reason. and aside from eating politicians and homeless, people like him can serve one of the most important services. He can supply us with that much needed sustenance that we are all going to need to continue the fight. So you see, even an ignorant f*** like Frank has value and a good reason to keep him around. And by the way, I am a vet and wan USAF Specops embedded in Honduras and Panama and am almost a senior citizen. We seniors have a lot more to fight for because we see a lot more that has been taken away from us. I also grew up with a Grandfather that was Seneca-Iroquois and learned at a very young age what plant life you could eat and not as well as what makes the best medicines, but don’t think for a minute, that , if that was all gone, and I was starving, that I would eat Frank. I have the commitment to fight for freedom liken to the Islamic Extremist suicide bomber. And because of my age NOT NEAR AS MUCH TO LOSE AS Frank. Paul III

          • RY
            December 8, 2013 at 7:48 am

            Its Morse code. Named after the creator of it Samuel Morse. Being you couldn’t spell it I doubt you know it.

          • NJ Martinez
            January 28, 2014 at 9:56 am

            AMEN! Well said, Mr. DeWitt!

          • Nicole
            February 3, 2014 at 4:43 pm

            You said it perfectly Mr. Dewitt!!! I agree 100% that the elderly have much more useful knowledge than the young ones today. This generation has grown up with all of this technology that does everything for them. Keep this in mind you new generation ‘know-it-alls’…some of the elderly have lived through the Great Depression and had to live off the land, make meals stretch to feed their large families, hunt and prepare their own food. Having someone with experience and knowledge about how to survive in case of a world crisis – I would definitely want on my side to teach me the ways.

            Sorry to Mrs. Hall who was rudely disrespected just because she asked a simple, yet, substantial question. We all know how this economy has changed and I forsee it to only get worse. I’m 30 and I’m seriously planning on making a survival kit myself. I want to be prepared for anything. I think it’s great Mrs. Hall, that you are thinking the same way. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to be prepared. Good for you! I just wish I could help you with some ideas….I’m still figuring out my list for me and 2 little ones – 2 and 6 years of age. Good luck to you!

          • PEaceweapon
            February 3, 2014 at 11:07 pm

            He threatens to slit peoples throats and you all pat him on the back for being a old guy? You people disgust me

          • Brent Roch
            February 28, 2014 at 7:29 am

            Thank you ,Jerry,I am up in age also but I can still walk 25 miles a day and hunt and bag enough food in one day to feed a few survivors. Guys like us are the 1%
            Turn your power off for a week, -and older fellows like us will watch you go beserk!!

          • joe
            March 5, 2014 at 9:58 am

            YES SIR!!!

          • Steve
            March 14, 2014 at 4:59 am

            Jerry, I’d rather have one of you with me if the tird hit the fan than 10 Franks. I can sleep on the snow in the rain, eat spotted owl, I can pick and shovel too, I can do most anything you want me to…

          • BobTheJanitor
            April 10, 2014 at 2:19 pm

            RY – Actually, it’s Samuel F.B. Morse. Since you don’t know anything about punctuation or usage, I doubt that you would know that.

          • Tami
            April 21, 2014 at 2:04 pm

            Yes! I was about to the point that I might have been able to do a double diamond hitch by myself a while back.

            Many older folks know skills. They may not be able to physically do them, but they can TEACH! You would be more than welcome here, Jerry. I surprise folks due to the skills that I have learned by reading! Many from hard cover books. Some by computer. Use what we can as we can!

          • Liz Fox
            April 30, 2014 at 8:36 pm

            Say’s the generation that raised us…..

          • Ken
            September 6, 2014 at 2:34 pm

            Jerry, I am 68 and I can do very few of what you named, however I can grow a garden, survive off the land, and mostly, make a survival kit and have the ammo to keep it in my possession, along with a bit of gold and silver.

          • BWA ha ha!
            October 14, 2014 at 9:03 am

            You remind me of “The Postman” when the old guy says, “I know things”! I agree the older community will be nessessary to survive! My mom grows a garden and I realized how ignorant I was when I saw her canning it all (tastes 100% better than anything bought BTW). Im only a generation away from that knowledge and was still thrust into techno-world. Now Im crash coursing myself in a feeble attempt at surviving. Hey old people, Im on board, your knowledge and my sweat can make it happen!

          • Nate
            January 9, 2015 at 12:13 am

            Which kiddos are you referring to? Hell what generation are you referring to? Raised pacifist? I’m a 26 year old veteran, and currently a rough neck. Since reaching adult hood I have worked 72-96 hours a week, and sir I wasn’t sitting in a damn office. What am I going to do when my computer goes dead? I’m going to use the skills taught to me by my grandfather and father, which I will in turn teach my own son.
            Slitting throats? Haha Sir I’m as tough as you are or ever were. Every generation thinks the next is weaker or inferior to their own. I’m sure your grand parents generation were saying how weak and lazy your was. Hell I’ll probably be saying the same thing about my grand children’s. So don’t make the mistake of thinking everyone in my generation would be dead in a week. Just as we’ll need you, your gonna need the god fearing, hard working young bucks just as much.

          • gr8ful
            February 11, 2015 at 1:58 am

            I completely dont agree with this guy. young people pacifists? I dare this guy to walk from LA to longbeach and say that again. also, although im probably a rarity, but I know how to shoot, load ammunition, gut, skin, and butcher a deer, or any other animal for that. he knows what to eat, and all us youngsters dont? why is everyone applauding this guy? I think hes full of it

          • gary
            June 26, 2015 at 8:18 pm

            Hell yeah I wish I could learn all of the above from you. You hit the nail on the head I know I’m ignorant to bush survival but I think it’s in me and my family’s best interest to learn and soon I figure if I can stock up and protect what I got and outlast the majority then I have a chance obviously I’ll need to make some connections with older folks that know the older ways at some point

          • Cheryl
            August 5, 2016 at 4:53 am

            Amen, these young folks don’t know nothing, I am not at 60 yet , but getting close, I want to think that all my parents and grandparents taught me will help me to survive

          • Suse
            September 6, 2016 at 7:45 pm

            I’m 66 and could feed my family with the knowledge of wild foods in my area. The benefit of studying a geographical area for decades, testing recipes and remembering things I learned at my grandma’s knee. We have planted concord grapes, blueberries, bush going to help keep us healthy. cranberries, asparagus, apple and pear trees, blackberries and raspberries. Also collected fishing gear. ND if bullets aren’t available, we have professional sling shots. And goods to barter for milk and eggs.

          • Stephen Munro
            December 25, 2016 at 12:08 pm

            Wow, What happened to the importance of the meaning of this site? Sure is easy to get everybody’s hair in a bunch. And as far as anyone knows, Frank could just be an elder person himself. I suppose you just have to take what helps and leave the rest. Stephen

        • tom
          November 16, 2013 at 7:01 am

          hey frank this is about brotherhood and sisterhood, being a prepper family! im almost 50 and im sure im better prepared than you will ever be, and trust me with your attitude there is no help for you at my door!larie on the other hand is welcome any time. laire some of the important thing you may need is extra medications vitamins and plenty of water,sun screen and manuals on fire starting,canning and food storage.

        • Paula
          November 16, 2013 at 2:36 pm

          My parents are in there 80’s and have taught me a few very good tricks that they used in the depression, you’d be wise to listen. Probably unlike most people we have a plan that includes my parents and they in turn have been prepping themselves and boxing up food items, Do not underestimate the elderly they have plenty to offer.

          • Adam
            August 18, 2014 at 11:32 am

            Wow Frank. So much for freedom of expression! I always thought preppers were conservative, but I guess they’re more like liberals…”say whatever you want as long as I agree”.

            While his tone was off, the idea of an older person needing diapers or prune juice might not be far off. My father in law at 78 needs Depends. I wouldn’t have thought of packing those for him. Older people have different needs. And they better have some younger people around to help. My father-in-law would have a rough time already without my wife around. Imagine if he had to hike through some woods or build a shelter!

            As for all these people talking about their 80 year old grandparent teaching them stuff from the depression…which depression was that? The one in 2008? By most accounts “The Depression” was during the 30s, ending around WW2. So, your 80+ year old grandparent was born around then. You make it sound like they knew how to support a family of 4. A 90yo today would have been born in 1924 and be barely old enough to enlist in time for D-Day. Sadly, very few people are alive today who were actually adults back then and really felt what it was like to raise a family in those times.

            Kids do have it easier each generation. And now, apparently, in Boy Scouts they’re more concerned with teaching boys how to be comfortable holding hands with each other than camping and other skills.

            Having said that, I am surprised how many people my age (40) don’t know how to tie a proper knot other than to tie their shoes. They can’t cook an egg, boil water, or start a fire. They haven’t shot a gun (those who have guns in SHTF will also have food and water; those who don’t will likely lose theirs to those who do). They can’t read a compass…even the digital one in the damn car. They sure as hell can’t read a map without Siri telling them where to go.

        • Elizabeth N
          November 17, 2013 at 11:39 am

          I would LOVE to have Mrs Hall with me! She has the experience of having lived back in the days of the depression. Making do. Doing it by hand. Working together as a family. Rigging up your own contraption when you can’t afford to buy something :) She may not be strong, but she may indeed be fit and strong. 73 isn’t that old if you have taken care of yourself. But her head knowledge is priceless. And attitude. I prefer the older generation 100x over the younger generation who feel they are ‘entitled’ whether they work for it or not! Blessings y’all~

          • TIMBER
            January 24, 2014 at 7:53 pm

            SHTF Is a time logic and rational choices. Yes Frank was rude,however youthful partners would be a must.Sad to say but the emotions im hearing is a weakness.fact is itll be survivle of the fittest AND smartest! P.S. she didn’t exp. the depression

          • Nina
            February 8, 2015 at 11:40 am

            All those who believe people in their 70s lived through the “depression” need to read history books or at least google it. At 71, I can tell you I wasn’t born until in the 40s, meaning I didn’t live through the depression. OMG, get real! But I can tell you as an RN (Ret.) I have skills useful for any group.

          • Stephen Munro
            December 25, 2016 at 12:27 pm

            Elizabeth, just to do the math, 73 would have placed her birth, at the earliest in 1943, so having lived through the depression…??…a bit questionable, but could have had parents who had it hard growing up through it, and then meeting and starting her family. I, myself, can see many personality traits of my father and mother, who were born 1933, and 1939, approaching life with values they learned from their parents. You know, all the “when I was your age…” stories. In fact, I myself can say I inherited some of my mom’s fear of financial insecurity, especially with the instability in politics. And so the web is wove, down the line will pass many traits, even the crassness of some people, could be seen as a form of preparedness control, b/c surely we would come across such brutal truths in apocalyptic times, and also, as it has caused many ppl here to take stock of their elders. I agree, even Frank could be seen as having a purpose, not to eat, but to learn something from. Even Satan, it was written, sat on the council of God, and when challenging God to let him have his way with Lot, and Humanity, brought about a need for change and what direction that change could take, thus, Placing Satan, himself, as a “counselor” of quality control. How would we know where we really stood if the ground wasn’t shaken up once in a while.

        • dack
          February 4, 2014 at 8:23 am

          I think old people are a valuable resource even if they were not physically able they have been around awile and would be less likely to make rash decisions

        • don payson
          March 5, 2014 at 5:09 am

          Us older generations survived before there even was a “grid”. So, we got this…

        • Steve
          October 16, 2014 at 10:18 am

          I hope those old people have a stockpile of their meds. If Frank or those like him run out of their blood pressure pills…whoopsie!

          • Stephen Munro
            December 25, 2016 at 12:32 pm

            I have at least a one yr supply of every medication I am currently taking. there were many times I went “without” to create this emergency supply. I wouldn’t count on ANYONE to find me and help give me medication. I even sounds ridiculous, so I don’t see how anyone could think that would be the case.;

        • Allen DuPree
          October 25, 2014 at 8:36 pm

          Yep, we will keeping on keeping on while the try to figure out a way to get online with no electricity. I still have most of my old book and the encyclopedias bought for my long grown girls. Hell I can boil eggs, coffee most anything in a roaring fire (or small) in a PAPER BAG. Use milk/bleach etc.. jugs to fish while I am otherwise busy tending to other things.

        • Kim
          January 2, 2016 at 6:41 pm

          If people want to piss and moan, go back to Facebook. People are here to see what is needed and to make sure they haven’t forgotten something that could keep one alive when it hits the fan. Get with the program people. God Bless you ALL,in Jesus Name.

        • Scott
          February 24, 2016 at 1:18 pm

          You will all die, there isnt enough food, water and resources for everyone to survive off the land so stop preparing so the rest of us can survive. Die baby die !!! :)

      • dave
        January 25, 2012 at 1:43 am

        How very kindly you choose your words Frank, we all appreciate that crap in this forum.

      • zach
        February 11, 2012 at 12:15 pm

        Apparently you have not found the wisdom, and tenaciousness of our older folks. If it were all to go zombie apocalypse today, I wish my 90 Grandfather was still around. He’s the man that taught me to survive without anything. Because he grew up in a generation that had nothing. Choose your words carefully. You just may find that all those years are worth more than you thought.

        • BleakoEcobamics
          July 5, 2012 at 7:43 am

          Here here!

          I SO wish my grandmother were here. She with her brother ran farm with no power, throwing down a lunch for 25 farm hands on a wood/iron stove, washing laundry nice and white with a scrub board and homemade soap, preserving food — could can anything, dried fruits on what apparently looked like screen doors, etc., knew how to keep oil & wick lanterns in perfect repair & not smoking, just all kinds of things I wish I’d learned.

          • Patsy
            January 4, 2013 at 11:54 am

            I so agree with you. The older greneration has such a wealth of knowledge they lived in tough times. All of my grandparents have passed, I’m so glad I paid attention to the things they had to teach me and wish they were here to teach me more. My mother is the last elder in our family and she is one tough women. I have a brother and in the past 2 yrs. we have really been trying to educate ourselves in being more selfrelient, raising our own food, learning to can and preserve those foods, improving our hunting skills,we involve our whole family, I find myself saying over and over I wish I had paid more attention to how grandma or grandpa did this or that. If you are lucky enough to have members of the older grenerations in your family pay attention to what they can teach you they are a wonderful sourse of knowledge.

          • anne56
            January 7, 2013 at 9:34 pm

            Our grandparent have lived so some of the worst times in the last 100 years and they got it going on , they know how to do all these thing that we don’t because they didn’t have any of the technology that we are spoiled with. They did it the hard way, time consuming but it was the right way and having patience and they were healthier as far as what they ate and didn’t have all the toxins that are in everything today.

          • Scott
            February 24, 2016 at 1:21 pm

            Cry baby cry you are not your grandma and she isnt here to hold your hand… do something for yourself for a chance . You all cant survive some have to die so the strong can survive. We will not teach you how to survive, but dont get in our way or else you will become bird food

      • imyahuckleberry
        February 22, 2012 at 1:00 am

        Frank Frank Frank… Now that’s not nice.. Maybe you should open your eyes a little. Think about what you say before you open the di*k dumpster in your face. Show some respect or maybe someone might come along and give you a list of survival tips of your own.
        FRANK- list includes:
        Balls, Guns, Guts, and oh yeah ya dont have the brains to use any of the above! Get bent ya terrorist!!

        • Huck
          May 4, 2016 at 5:22 am

          You’re a daisy if you do

      • ZombieFreakk
        March 7, 2012 at 4:00 pm

        I couldn’t believe what I just read… She maybe a little on the older side but I bet she will be more prepared than you will be, as she grew up in a time when nothing was available. When you are getting the worst of what’s coming and you need help and you see a older person doing a lot better than you, don’t bother to ask them for help as your aren’t worth it to them. Survival guide for you; Nothing, burn in hell.
        And as for everybody else, me and my hubby and baby girl are starting to get out bug out bags ready, this website has helped me out a lot and I appreciate all the suggestions on here! Have a wonderful life to everyone, including Frank. Best of luck!!

        • ZombieFreakk
          March 7, 2012 at 4:01 pm

          Meant to say getting OUR bug out bags ready!

          • Joey Joe Joe
            July 10, 2012 at 12:56 am

            Why would you bet she will be more prepared? She doesn’t know what items she needs so she asked someone to send her a list by making the request on the comments section of a random blog article. She clearly is lucky to have been able to read the keyboard well enough to type. She will die. Oh yeah and no doomsday is coming whatsoever and this is all ridiculous, unnecessary bullshit and you all are utter idiots.

        • Belle
          October 22, 2012 at 6:42 pm

          Best of luck to you and your family. I really hope the day never comes where any of you need to use your BOB’s, but if the SHTF then best of luck to you three.

        • theSHADOWDANCER...
          February 12, 2013 at 3:19 pm

          at least she’s Making a list, have you FRANK! My Granny’s 82 , and most every day she calls me and says, HUN don’t forget to do this or get that, ‘you youngins better be prepared, and if you need anything just call!; I’M 55…

          • thtSHADOWDANCER...
            February 12, 2013 at 3:25 pm

            oops, shes 92, 93 this month, LOL, see and she has to call and remind me what I need, !!

      • Survival Food
        May 10, 2012 at 12:04 pm

        Man, I am enjoying the lash out against Frank more than the article. Way to stand up for our elderly commenters! I think some people just like to get a rise out of other people like my brother-in-law (can’t reveal which one). Larie – have you looked into Freeze Dried Food? Even getting a small amount can make life easier for a survival situation – just add water and your eating! All the Best to you Lauri!

        • oldindahills
          February 11, 2014 at 5:56 pm

          I can show/teach anyone how to prepare “Frank” for BBQ..

      • Paul
        June 13, 2012 at 9:29 pm

        really??? Frank, that is rude. And just to add insult to your ignorance…. I have family that are over 90yrs old that are the only ones under 33yrs old that aren’t in some way reliant on thier elders. They are the only ones that are handling this poor economy without bating an eye….They have been there before!!!!! Weren’t you taught to respect your elders?

        • Paul
          June 13, 2012 at 9:32 pm

          I meant reliant on thier family

          • Scott
            February 24, 2016 at 1:22 pm

            Like baby bush calling his mama and brother to help him? Cry baby nobody is coming to save you, do something for yourself or die trying!!! Cry baby

      • ixeek
        June 14, 2012 at 10:44 pm

        thts pretty rude, i understand but not every old person is senile, some are very active and fit, my g-ma walks everyday and goes to the gym and stuff and actually goes hunting and she’s 82… i think she will make it in a survival situation for a while

        • Catalyst
          June 23, 2012 at 5:32 pm

          LMAO… everyone got trolled so easily.

          • rev. dave
            October 5, 2012 at 6:45 am

            IMO, only retarded adolescent trolls find trolling funny. To the rest of us it’s an annoying display of stupidity and social non-function. Go pop your zits, catalyst.

      • Me
        July 20, 2012 at 3:16 pm

        Id keep an older person around and alive simply for the experience. They know some things id never think of!

      • Carol Cannon
        September 30, 2012 at 12:22 pm

        Oh Frankie….. With an attitude like that I can almost guarentee that you will be one of the first ones…….. EATEN!!! I personally like my arrogant young men with B-B-Q sauce. MMMMMMMMMM! Tasty.

      • Jim
        October 4, 2012 at 9:25 pm

        Your unbelievable. Older folks lived through so much, they could teach all of us a thing or two, especially manners !

      • Josh
        October 6, 2012 at 7:54 am

        While I don’t quite agree with franks delivery method, having a good group at any age is an important part of prepping. Power in numbers. Everyone has a use and an elder would have much life experience to pass down. There are plenty of new preppers who are just in this for the fun as a hobby and I am sure mrs. Hall would be a great asset to a group.

      • kcd
        October 16, 2012 at 12:48 pm

        Frank, what an azz you are!

      • PevanB
        October 20, 2012 at 8:13 pm

        Ya Frank you are pretty much humpin the pooch when it comes to Karma. see on the flip side, you’ll be the fly eating my poop

      • Debi
        November 15, 2012 at 5:35 pm

        Wow Frank! You are quite the rude a$$ aren’t you. Hope the Karma bus runs over you!

      • mona
        November 17, 2012 at 9:26 am

        frank, that is totally mean, most young people are totally useless in any situation.

      • paula
        December 14, 2012 at 8:01 am

        Frank, you’re an asshole! You must have not been taught to respect your elders. Shame on you. You better get ready to be a casualty if any of your neighbors know who you are on this post, You better not be one of mine.

      • Joe
        January 26, 2013 at 12:27 pm

        That’s pretty funny. You probably work for 73 today, you should be careful you ignorant douche!

      • John
        February 3, 2013 at 11:45 pm

        You are a real low life Frank. With your attitude you definitely will become a casualty.

      • Julie
        March 4, 2013 at 8:37 pm

        Frank you will be “Godsmacked” for that one day.

      • Jennifer
        March 14, 2013 at 12:15 pm

        Your an evil vile and nasty little man with no humanity! I hope someone takes pity on you because when this all comes down around you, you will need a friend.

      • Deb
        March 14, 2013 at 9:27 pm

        Frank youre a douche bag.

      • rachael ross
        March 27, 2013 at 12:40 pm

        73 or not they are human….right. if you were 73 wouldn’t you want a chance too.

      • caleb
        May 13, 2013 at 12:55 pm

        Frank when zombies are chasing you, your that person that you shoot in the leg to give the Honorable old timers a good chance to make it

      • disciple1
        June 4, 2013 at 10:11 pm

        Frank frank f u kn frank…..I PROMISE! You will be sucking not only apple sauce thru your straw…..but your grits, steaks or whatever else you illuminati snakes eat with your almighty “dollar” If we ever meet up on the other side! :-$ BET! And to you larie… I never knew my grandmother. Neither one of them. Get in touch with me larie! I’ll take you in, I always wanted a grandmother. The “youngbucks” are ALWAYS the first to cry…..and trust me larie, I ain’t no “young buck”!

      • Enter your name...
        August 19, 2013 at 9:34 pm

        I am sure Frank is trying to be light hearted and funny. Unfortunately he has come across as pretty silly. Either that or he really is jerk. Trust me BOY Senior Citizens will manage while you are trying to figure out what is happening to you. I am going with Peanut Butter, Can Tuna, sardines, salmon and fruit. They all have long shelf live, if stored in someplace cool. Dried Beans if kept air tight. God Bless us all and protect us, And Frank go for the sensible and not the laugh next time.

      • LUCY_LEE
        September 7, 2013 at 12:35 am

        Frank … you should make a huge reserve of intelligence because it seems you missed a lot.
        Politeness is not your greatest strength. I hope you manage to get through any crisis .. because your subtlety rock (not smart) YOU … you risk not live very old.

      • Dawn
        September 9, 2013 at 6:07 am

        That was NOT a very nice thing to say to someone. You are rude and uncouth.

      • Will
        October 1, 2013 at 8:01 pm

        Frank? Really? You’ve gotta be one of those douchebags who like to stir shit up and piss people off. Well it did. I hope you catch one in the knee and another in the gut . Fuckn pukestain!!

      • Franks a Pig
        October 10, 2013 at 1:41 pm

        Apparently the part of human DNA that creates compassion ran down your mothers leg

          July 10, 2015 at 12:05 am

          You are one sick puppy!!!!!!!!

      • cass
        October 15, 2013 at 10:36 pm

        Frank. I saw my grandfather yesterday who faught in ww2 and he is frail and dependant. Its wierd to read your comment cause I was just worrying about what I would do if I was elderly, badly hurt, or a woman during the end times. I would strongly consider suicide or even mercy killing if I could no longer protect myself or in the latter case my( wife and children.) It may be cowardly but it keeps them out of the hands of evil men. I don’t necessarily disagree with your statement when times get bad enough. Pray that the lord does not tarry in these times

      • Laura
        October 27, 2013 at 9:04 pm

        Mineral oil works very well for daily ummm, you know, my 82-year old mother told me about it.

      • tucker
        November 9, 2013 at 9:11 pm

        Yo Fuck Frank

      • ace
        November 17, 2013 at 7:13 am

        I know a lot of old timers that are a lot better equipped to survive than most younger folks. I have a 93 year old neighbor that still gets out and farms, hunts, and does yardwork and I am sure he is healthier than 50% of people half his age. A mans age is not a measure of the man your way of thinking is pretty stupid dude.

      • She probably has important skills.
        November 17, 2013 at 9:33 am

        Frank, she possibly knows things about cooking, knitting, canning, gardening, quilting, planting, etc that you do not. There are those who are physically active and make good grunts, and then there are those who are reservoirs of knowledge who are aged or infirm but still important for skills the current generations have lost, which we need to rebuild life as human beings. There’s an Alaska Native folk tale called “Two Old Women” that addresses this fact. We need our elders.

      • MML
        November 20, 2013 at 10:21 am

        My 79 year old father in law would put you to shame, both in stature & in wits. I’ll take him ANY day over the likes of you.

      • Bill James
        November 21, 2013 at 6:32 am

        Wow Frank, is your head up your ass for the warmth? Everybody realize, Frank is a cull, and needs to be cut from the herd. Do the world a favor Frank, take a dirt nap! You are wasting good air. Mrs. Hall, at the top of the website is a contact link. Use that link to request additional info.

      • mike
        January 28, 2014 at 10:36 am

        i know a 76yr old man that can run circles around all of 30 yr 36 raised by granparents that were born in 1917-20…us young people cant even b water boys for the old generation…i hunt,fish,raise garden,can an freeze food,heat with would,shoot bows n guns……until us younger generation go thru what the older generation did we can b asa
        cocky as we want to b ..but ill bet ull soon find out the older people will survive better than u………..i have nothing but respect for that generation….they knew nothing but work n surviving….good people for our generation to take lessons from…..its people like u that give r generation a bad rep!

      • mark
        January 29, 2014 at 2:35 pm

        well frank, think before you speak, the 73 yr old grandma’s got an ak47, just for people like you…

      • Bob Strickland
        February 6, 2014 at 5:23 pm

        You are a tasteless butt hole..

      • Jack Hammer
        February 16, 2014 at 10:30 am

        Whether he is being mean or not what he posted has merit. Most of us at 73 or thereabouts will not be in the best of physical shape and will need younger, healthier people around to survive. It’s a fact folks and we can hem and haw about how Frank said it but it’s true. I’m 56 and consider myself fairly healthy but I’m not in the best health either. My mother just turned 80 and she has been in a nursing home for about a year now. She has not been able to take care of herself for many years and when the SHTF I know she will perish. So will hundreds of thousands of others across the nation. Many people are on drugs to stay alive and rely on electricity as well. Once that goes away the old and sick will perish first. I hope we can all support our elders and take care of them as best as possible in the hard times coming.

      • Jan
        March 4, 2014 at 9:05 am

        Frank, people like you will be among the first to die when SHTF. You lack the skills to get along in society today, so what will happen when you need the skills? YOU WILL DIE. Will anyone feel bad about your demise? Not likely. Us older folk will surprise you young punks by the wealth of knowledge we possess. I learned my skills when I was a young child from my great grandmother,who survived the War Between the States, and both my grandmothers who survived the Great Depression. I have utilized these skills all my life and will continue to do so as long as I can. I doubt if punks like you can say or do the same.

        • Alayner
          November 4, 2014 at 1:12 pm

          Im so confused. All that I see is every one is hating on Frank XD. Can someone fill me in. This is so funny though!

      • carik
        March 4, 2014 at 9:46 am

        Hey Frank, She may be the only person in her family smart enough to put something aside. That way she can care for her family. She may be the only one that knows how to grow a garden and preserve the food. She’d be a real asset whereas you’re just an _ _ _

      • Tami
        April 21, 2014 at 1:59 pm

        If a person plans out, even at 73…….. They don’t need a lot of young bucks! Now…… it would help if they could team up with some that are younger……… But they have knowledge that could help.

      • nonna
        April 23, 2014 at 12:31 pm

        Ignore Frank and give us more food ideas. Larie and I would appreciate it.

      • John
        June 29, 2014 at 12:03 pm

        I thought that by now, the “I am younger than you, and therefore more important” people were weeded out and settling for dying while trying to get a signal on their cell phone after an “event”. Then I saw “frank’s” comment and once again know that the amount of bodies left to rot will be enormous!

      • beara
        July 25, 2014 at 3:24 pm

        Frank brings up a good point. could you callously pull a frank and turn away an orphaned child or elderly person to die in the elements? I couldn’t but I would have never prepared to care for an infant since my children are older. The elderly are much easier to prep for. Putting aside 1 five gallon bucket for this couldn’t hurt. Baby formula is expensive BUT it can be vital for a child, its usable nutritionally for everyone and before the shelf life expires a person could choose to donate it to rotate the stock. A few bottles, a few cans of formula.
        I could easily make someone like frank fend for himself but I honestly could never in a million years watch a child or elderly person suffer due to no fault of thier own. So thank you frank for being the prick that you are, I’ve learned something about myself when all I was looking for was the shelf life of tuna.

      • me
        August 8, 2014 at 9:22 am

        Don’t worry everybody. With an attitude toward others like that, he will have a target on his back from Day One of SHTF. All the people who put up with his idiocy now will write him off immediately. I’m sure he thinks he is ready, but he isn’t.

      • John
        August 11, 2014 at 4:52 pm

        Frank idiots like you should be sterilized to keep you from reproducing. You won’t have to worry about being 73. Someone will kill your nasty ass long before then.

      • Ted
        August 17, 2014 at 7:03 pm

        Frank, what you said was kind of a jerk move. You did not have to say that because it is demoralizing to an old woman. Shame on you for that. However, I do agree that a 73 year old woman would have a hard time surviving without help from ‘young bucks’ so you had the right idea but really not a cool way to talk to an old lady bro.

        • John
          November 14, 2014 at 4:17 pm

          Ted you can’t possibly be that ignorant. We old people. as you young punks like to say, lived with the homesteading ways you have no idea about. I’m betting most “Old People” Have more natural survival skills then 10 of you know-it-all young people. Try getting over yourself and please don’t make the mistake of getting in our way you may get the surprise of your life.

      • September 5, 2014 at 5:09 am

        Get your head out of your butt Frank-A, or maybe it has escaped your notice that most of the skills for survival and food storage are not new tech. There are many many ways to contribute at ANY age. Does your narrow minded agism mean you also eat your young rather than feed them? After all what possible contribution could a child have? Just so you know, if ever we meet in a survival situation, it will be you lying dying, not this old woman.

      • Jenn
        October 9, 2014 at 8:18 am

        You are a heartless, cruel person. Just remember karma will come for you. You might want to be more respectful.

      • Theonlyguywhowillsurvive
        October 25, 2014 at 4:07 pm

        Dude… That’s not nice.

      • Alayner
        November 4, 2014 at 1:15 pm

        I bet you aren’t even 73. You’re probably just a ten year old little boy that likes to start problems.

      • Sean
        November 14, 2014 at 9:26 am

        Old people will be needed because they and their parents had to live without most of the luxuries we have come to enjoy today. They know what it means to farm, can, build with hand tools, etc.

        My mom is pushing 70, and she is the hardest worker I know, most men 1/2 her age can’t even keep up with her. She owns a small horse farm and is constantly moving heavy rock to build walls, working farm equipment, digging post holes, cutting down trees and splitting logs. I can only hope to be 1/2 that spry when I’m her age.

      • John
        November 14, 2014 at 4:12 pm

        You have to over look Frank he doesn’t know any better He won’t learn until he messes with the wrong older person and they blow his head off. Hey Frank I’m 64 and I double care you to come fuck with me and see how long you live to tell about it.

        • Lai
          November 20, 2014 at 3:12 pm

          Ooh burn on frank. Good one john! Frank is getting pwned

      • bobfromamerica
        February 1, 2015 at 6:00 am

        Frank is obviously STARVING for attention. Giving it to him will only enable him. 0:)

      • Cody
        July 11, 2015 at 8:03 am

        Talk to my family like that in front of me and you may end up a casualty yourself. Remember, your not the biggest baddest meanest out there princess.

      • January 11, 2016 at 7:23 pm

        No need to be rude. Even at 73 she can be useful even if it is knowledge. You also imply that a woman needs a man. As women my daughter and I can tell you that we do not need a man. In fact we know a few men that without a woman they will not survive. Don’t forget your Blankie and Binkie Frank

      • OledihardEnter your name...
        April 8, 2016 at 2:08 pm

        Franks just saying it like it is. Already, people over 50, even 40, are considered ‘in the way’. I’m 64, I didn’t heeded my parents warnings; now–somewhat too late–I get their drift. History’s filled with examples of what starvation & anarchy does to people. Abandoned children dying of hungry, isn’t new. Cannibalism, it isn’t new. Roving gangs, raping, & murdering the innocent for their belongings, isn’t new. It’s happening now in other countries. We need to prepare for anything. And one last comment: Never, ever, put all your eggs in one basket. Bury & hide!

      • Joan
        July 11, 2016 at 6:56 am

        I’m 75 and certainly don’t need a “Frank” in my life. Our family is as prepared as possible and I’m very busy helping others get prepped too. Dehydrated prunes are yummy as are dates and figs. However, we use them for flavor at this point. Sounds like you’re the one with the potty problem.

      • Faye
        October 22, 2016 at 9:32 am

        Omg How ugly & crude

      • CarmenO
        October 24, 2016 at 3:03 am

        I’m sure this person is dead by now, but at 69 I’m betting that I’m way, way better prepared after doing it since I was 16. What a clown! lol

    • diannamarsolek
      April 6, 2012 at 12:33 pm

      we would love to have you with us we dont have kids but our family’s do older folks are the teacher of the young and are needed more than you will ever know i have a lot of grand old folks but more is good thay do garden work and tend the flocks of sheep and goats as well as get the eggs and watch kids win we plow or have to go out ware its to dangerous to take them as well as just plane know stuff

    • victoria
      May 5, 2012 at 5:00 pm

      Ms. Larie,

      Some good things to have are matches, a crank radio (it cranks so it runs without batteries for a while), medical supplies like bandaids, wrap bandages, gauze, hydrogen peroxide, alcohol (for disinfecting woulds/cuts, etc.), medical bandage tape, antibiotic ointment like neosporin, Lugol’s iodine AND tincture of Iodine-you can get Lugols and tincture on Of course batteries like AA, etc. are good but they eventually go bad. A swiss army knife, flash lights (several), clothes line with clothes pins, baking soda (lots) scissors, several different kinds of non- electric can openers and lots of canned food with good exp dates-look at every date before you buy to be it is at least 3 years out or so. Try to find others in your area that live close that you can trust like church. Most of all have your Bible. God never fails. Not everyone is as rude as Frank. I wish my precious grandmother was still alive. I have the utmost respect for those who are older. I hope you come back and post again.

      • Michelle
        June 24, 2012 at 3:16 pm

        That was very nice of you to inform Ms.Larie of the things she is also going to need.
        Ms. Larie more than likely going to be he alot longer than Mr Frank. He’ll probably mess himself when the SHTF. I’ll bet she could skin a buck or run a trout line anyday and out cook the best of us. Ms.Larie do pay no mind to him, just get yourself ready. Oh and if some jurk comes knocking on your door, well you know what to do. Best of luke to all.
        Frank the Joke is on you.

      • Mechanic
        October 20, 2012 at 1:49 pm

        Personally as an atheist a bible is just excess weight to carry but if it gives you hope then more power to ya. I would sugget adding a machete or large hunting knife because being older people will probably try to take advantage of you.. A grandma with a machete ? No one in their right mind is going to fuck with that!

        • Darwins_Myth
          September 21, 2013 at 6:41 am

          I’ll use the extra tiny grunt to keep my Bible, plus have a machete swinging grandma.

          Since you most likely know less than .01% about everything in the universe, how do you know God doesn’t live in the 99.99% you know nothing about?

          I don’t have enough faith to be an atheist.

          • stacie
            October 17, 2013 at 6:46 pm

            very well said!! I am memorizing that one…love it

        • mark
          January 29, 2014 at 2:42 pm

          yea… boom…boom…for the atheist,
          and save the christian.

    • melanie robinson
      June 1, 2012 at 6:37 am

      I am a 60 year old woman who has been prepping for a while now. my hubby isnt too into it but puts up with my doing so.
      I do a log of dehydrating. I go to the frozen food sections of stores, the veggies are ready to dehydrate. If you dont have a dehydrator just put on cookie sheets in oven at 200 deg. There are a lot of online sites about dehydrating. I have a garden so also dehydrate out of tht.
      Have plenty of water. Every time I go to store pack some more. Buy bleach, if you have to you can purify your rain or stream water with tht. Matches, candles. Solar is definately good. There are solar radio/flashlights out there. Buy a good book or two on wild foods with pictures. Have a tarp, blanket. Get a tote and buy one of those vacuum bags. But extra clothes, blankets and seal it. you can get a lot in a small space. Any medicines you need, try to get extra prescriptions. I also have some home canned veggies, can use the juices to help rehydrate the veggies. Get some seeds, dont get hybrid, get heirloom. Now is a good time to stock up.
      This isnt a complete list, but hope it will help.

    • rev. dave
      October 5, 2012 at 7:32 am

      One more thing – mostly for the newer folks here. Try to find yourselves an old (say, ’50’s edition) Boy Scout Handbook. It has basics for nearly every skill you’ll need for camping/primitive living skills, as well as for packing, supplies, making fire, tracking, building shelters, finding your way, etc. There are very good illustrations and simple but fairly complete instructions. You can’t beat it as a primer for primitive skills.

      Don’t get a new one. They have reduced that kind of material in them – or so it looks to me – which means you’d now get ‘camping light’ instructions.

      Boy Scouts feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. I already have my older manual (and still have my own from 50 years ago too) so I won’t care and it will help others to know.

      • philip
        February 22, 2013 at 3:19 pm

        No Dave, you are correct. As a 45year scouter I can tell you and everyone else the newer politically correct handbooks don’t cut it.
        I’m called a maverick but still teach out of 50-60’s books.also look for the old fieldbooks..they are what you really want..all obout fieldcraft

      • Ruthie
        November 15, 2013 at 2:12 pm

        I love the boy scout handbook idea, I am a 29 year old mom of 3 kids pregnant for #4 and am trying to get together a nice organized stash of important items. The books are so expensive and I have never thought of the boy scout book. Thank you.

    • Lanny Greco
      October 6, 2012 at 8:34 am

      I would like a printable list also.

    • marina
      September 23, 2013 at 4:38 pm

      Larie, keep strong, and ignore idiots like frank

    • Michael b
      September 26, 2013 at 7:38 pm

      Larie hall I am a young prepper and currently writhing a book on survival but here is a simple list of foods that will last a long time!
      Beans,pinto kidney. Lentils. Lima. Adzuki. Garbanzo mung. Black turtle. Black eye
      Store bought, canned tuna Canned meats. Canned veggies coffe packets tea bags ramen noodles powdered milk (good for the bones!) dried herbs and spices for taste
      Also electrolyte enhanced water will be good for general health
      1/2 tbsp baking soda
      2 tblspns agave nectar
      1/2 tblspn of sea salt
      And add to around 20oz of water!

      • Court
        November 16, 2013 at 7:37 am

        Just like to correct you on your quote “powdered milk (good for the bones)”. Milk is actually BAD for the bones. Our bodies cannot actually digest the milk without actually taking calcium OUT of our bones to do so. Countries who consume the most milk have the most cases of osteoporosis. It is through clever marketing that we mindlessly believe without question that milk is good for us. You can fact check that online.

    • Court
      November 16, 2013 at 7:31 am

      To Madam Larie Hall,

      There are a number of websites who offer such things as:
      – A waterproof bucket that contains long-term (25 years) storage food and water filters.
      – Basic survival tools such as fire-starters, weapons (knives) etc, fishing line etc.
      – Other basic materials such as fold-away rain coats, sleeping bags etc.
      – First-Aid Kits

      A few best foods to have are rice (number 1 choice), dried beans and canned foods (without the easy pop-top lids since they burst when stored for long periods). Salt is also handy to have as it is allows for preserving other foods such as fresh meat.

      A backpack that is ready to grab is extremely handy to have.

      It is a good idea to get to know a friendly, athletic neighbour and let him know that when a disaster strikes, you’d appreciate it if he remembers to come help you out and not to leave you behind.

      Hope this is a good start for you. Good luck

    • Nina
      November 16, 2013 at 4:17 pm

      Larie, if you can copy and paste the list of things you like into a blank word doc or to note pad then you can save it to a folder on your computer or print it off. I am also a “grandmother” and great grandmother, I am teaching the kids and grandkids all I know but I can assure you I am not going out without a fight !! Come on over to my neck of the woods and join me…

    • Dave
      February 6, 2014 at 4:46 am

      if you take any medication be sure you have plenty on hand, it will be hard to come by if not impossible at some point. Put aside some canned food and dry goods and water (plenty of water) toilet paper, body soap, toothpaste, first aid kit and such. There are so many things to put away that it boggles the mind when you think about it. but that’s a place to atart.

    • Sharon
      February 7, 2014 at 9:23 am

      Dear Ms. Hall,

      I do not have all the knowledge I need, but I would be glad to send you a list of what might be use to you. How can I do this for you? Do you want me to publish it on this site. Do you have a printer? Or should I send it to this site and they can send it to you?

    • Ciji
      March 7, 2014 at 12:00 am

      there are several websites that have different list. Basically just have basic first aid equipment, food to last at least 72 hours and water, weapons are good to have in case you need them. if you need to leave your house make sure you have protection from the elements, hat,sunscreen, clean pair of socks and undies. if possible a small tent you can set up and a blanket.

    • scott
      April 24, 2014 at 12:36 pm

      i noticed you do not have white rice up there is there any reason for that?

    • dottie
      June 13, 2014 at 7:02 pm

      Ms Hall, I am 70. I am storing rice, pasta, tomatoes, broth,canned vegetables, canned potatoes, tuna and chicken in the can. anything I could make soup with. canned baked beans, pinto beans any kind of beans for protein. dry beans lentils, barley, instant potatoes needing only water to make., lipton rice and noodles, spices you like and use often, mac and cheese, spaghetti O’s, ravioli,canned beef can add vegetables like carrots to stretch it. I store dry goods in clean jars like spaghetti sauce jars, clean empty soda pop bottles. canned soups can be used as a base that you can add to stretch a can into multiple meals. spaghetti sauce, canned and powdered milk, coffee mate, tea bags, instant coffee, white and brown sugar, canned gravies, canned fruit, pudding, jello, applesauce, peanut butter, jelly, flour, yeast to make bread etc. many items can be bought at the dollar store. only buy on sale. you would also be surprised how fast you could build a pantry just by getting a couple extra things each time you go to the store. only buy on sale. get some seeds at the dollar store to plant a garden. if the s h the fan hide everything…not all in the same place tho. eg some in the closet, some under the bed or sofa, behind and under dressers etc you would be surprised at the many different places you could hide some food. tape some pkgs behind bureaus. buy the basics first, then keep adding to them. before you know it, you will have a weeks supply, then 2 weeks, then a month etc. good luck honey, you can do it.

      • Susin
        October 17, 2015 at 8:50 pm

        Thank you Dottier.Your suggestion is one of the most sensible for those that cannot ‘Bug Out’. Sadly I see more sense here from the more experienced in years and family oriented than the younger eager beaver out to prove their manhood types. In the end we will depend on our neighbors for survival. Knowledge is life.

    • Ross Harvey
      July 25, 2014 at 7:14 am

      Im 69 & I realize if a bugout is necessary I would not b able to keep up w/my family so I plan to b a rear guard. I have a Springfield m1a & an xd45, food & water. I dont feel worthless. I may save the rest of my family but I probably will not make it a long time. I know how to use my weapons. Spent 20 yrs in Army & I have physical probs.

    • Ross Harvey
      July 25, 2014 at 7:30 am

      Hi Larie. Im 69 & have been thinking about survival. I think for people our age the best & most convienent food to store is the prepared food from places like
      Mt house. Its not complete meals w/vegs & fruits but our main theme is survival. Also a small caliber weapon like a .22 or .22 mag would come in handy. I realize as all of us older folks should that if a bugout becomes necessary we may hinder our families so a decision wovuld have to b made on that. I plan to stay behind as a rear guard. I have a Springfield m1a w/several mags & a Springfield xd45. These weapons may b 2 big 4 most older folks butU will need something for protection. I also ha e bottled water. Enough 4 a couple of months.

    • September 5, 2014 at 5:16 am

      larie, what you need in a survival list is very dependent upon the local resources,and the area you live in. example, if you live in a desert, water is more important than if you have a creek in your back yard. urban survival and rural survival are not the same. becoming as self sufficient as possible is usually a good rule of thumb.. finding ways to become less dependent on anyone is also a good move. the facebook page listed in this post are mostly links to articles, tips, lists like you want… please have a look.. use what makes sense to you in your circumstances.

    • Ken
      September 6, 2014 at 2:29 pm

      Larie Hall, need an email address, but better yet, If you don’t know how to highlight and print the list, ask a friend or neighbor to do it for you.

    • Mark
      September 19, 2014 at 2:51 am

      if off grid survival allows you just highlight it and print it

    • carolyn
      November 12, 2014 at 7:35 pm

      looking over this list. You need to pick up toothpaste, alcohol and matches.
      Also google Solar Generators. Wagan has a good one. I bought a little refrig, stove top, and a fan.
      I do not understand how all this is happening. Why as Americans have we let this get so far? Maybe it is time all the states need to leave the Union and each state govern themselves. This would be the end of the federal government. The Government is supposed to protect us. They have not done so. The bad people are getting protected and the good people are suffering. .

    • Rose
      February 3, 2015 at 12:05 pm

      Just cut & paste the information onto a BLANK MS Word document and then you can print that MS Word document, or put it even on your smartphone if you have one.

    • Deb
      June 15, 2015 at 10:15 am

      Larie, it is very simple, Store what you use and use what you store. Think about the what if’s with a pen and paper handy. If you could not go to the store for a month what would you need. If you didn’t have electricity and running water, what would you need? Any like minded folks close to you? Church members? There are lots of printable “lists” around online. Just keep it simple, and remember to breath. Sometimes it just gets overwhelming.

    • B from CA
      July 30, 2015 at 3:27 am

      This is a practical shopping list. I Realize it is intended for long term however freeze dried and dried fruits and vegetables will keep for a time and are required for nutrition. I might put this list in a card along with some money for newlywed couple, or a young person just getting started.

    • Deb
      August 9, 2015 at 6:17 pm

      There are too many lists to list, but make sure your list includes Iodized salt and vitamins.

    • Diane Stewart
      November 8, 2015 at 4:49 am

      I want foods that are in a mouse proof packaging. Also I would like to see plans that are on a low monthly payment plan. Also I am looking for a list of non food items that should be collected. I am already a prepper but I am still trying to add to my knowledge to make sure I have the best collection I can get together.

    • Barb
      September 5, 2016 at 2:12 pm

      This would also be helpful for me. 68 yr old grandma, living alone.

    • Anonymous
      October 12, 2016 at 2:10 pm

      Blah Blah Blah. I’m 11 I don’t care about this

  2. September 24, 2010 at 7:45 am

    You just made my shopping list creation very easy. I will have to tell the wife I spent a couple hours on it!!

    Really good. Couple things on there I had not thought about.



  3. September 27, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    This idea may be a bit off topic here.

    Besides these long shelf life foods, I’ll also store (short shelf life) nutritional supplements. Some of them:

    • Buffered vitamin C (do keep coo; away from heat & light)
    • Cod liver oil in bottle (yucky but a most potent power food!)
    • Probiotic Acidophillus (travel versions are great)
    • Whey protein (costly yet don’t store for long, sigh!)
    • Wild American ginseng (don’t laugh, such nature’s gift beat our synthetic, processed food in nutritional integrity) :-)

  4. September 27, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    (Some correction – sorry)

    This idea may be a bit off topic here.

    Besides these long shelf life foods, I’ll also store (short shelf life) nutritional supplements. Some of them:

    • Buffered vitamin C (do keep cool; away from heat & light)
    • Cod liver oil in bottle (yucky but a most potent power food!)
    • Probiotic Acidophillus (travel versions are great)
    • Whey protein (costly yet don’t store for long, sigh!)
    • Wild American ginseng (don’t laugh, such nature’s gift beat our synthetic, processed food in nutritional integrity) :-)

  5. TheNorthernSurvivalist
    October 15, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    Amaranth grain (seed) would be a great prep item too. One seed will produce millions more. Don’t forget yeast until you get skilled in finding yeast in the wild. :)

  6. Sharon
    November 8, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    About salt: A very important item. However, salt from the grocery store is most often only sodium chloride with all the other minerals removed. You might find “Real Salt” in some grocery stores. I buy my salt from They are home based somewhere near Kirkland, WA. You can get unprocessed (full compliment of minerals) salt from them, chunks in various sizes, or ground. I buy my favorite Himalayan Pink Salt there in 5lb bags and shipping is free until Dec 31,2010.
    Another item that I consider essential is the book Cancer-Free by Bill Henderson. Every household should have a copy of this book, and read it now.
    As for honey used for medical purposes, must not be heated or processed or it won’t work well if at all. Google that item, or see what has to say about it.

  7. When it comes to emergency preparedness, most people I talk to think that nothing will ever happen to them- so “why should I bother. It drives me NUTS- but I know I am not nuts.
    As a father of 3 small children, I have always tried to protect and provide for all their immediate and future necessities.

    We have grown up in the age of consumerism and take for granted that there will always be food on the shelves. But in this economy, it will only take a small natural disaster, declaration of hyper-inflation, a truckers strike or possibly a shortage of water or gas to empty the stores shelves within hours. Just look what happened in Boston!

    Now, I can sleep in peace! I love having the peace of mind, the feeling of being empowered– that my family and I are covered with the necessary emergency food, and survival supplies for the next 20 years at TODAYS prices for what ever comes our way.

    • Just me
      April 6, 2012 at 4:48 pm

      You are nuts…..

      • Searchenjin
        September 8, 2012 at 4:53 pm

        You are protein.

        • Court
          November 16, 2013 at 7:41 am


  8. don lau
    November 27, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    one thing we keep in small airplanes in alaska ; is dried dog food,sealed with o2 bags (dog cookies taste better).. yes i have had to eat dog food when stuck in the bush…In our boats & planes we keep traps & clear plastic which can be used as shelter or water catchment system.
    I would also add pepper spray. Also have a water filtering system & tablets.. Have bleach & perioxide.. Also waxed dental floss which can be used to mend tenting or clothing. I have had to use dental floss to sew wounds up & it worked fine.
    I would add dried eggs,nuts & granola.Items that do not need cooking.
    I buy much of our food & supplies from “Azure Standard” out of Durfer ,Or. They service Alaska & the west coast.

    And one very important thing is exersice NOW, get into shape. Because if you have to hit the road out of shape you will not make it far.. Also get your friends & family in good physical shape.. Start walking everwhere.

    • sandra Leathers
      January 2, 2012 at 11:52 pm

      Other good things to stock is paper plates and throw away plastic spoons and forks, so you don’t have to wash dishes and waste water. You then can use them to start a fire.plenty of matches, flash lights. candles also.

      • Kyle Stoddard
        November 24, 2013 at 6:39 pm

        Another way to save on water is to create a greywater system in your household. Most of the time grey water is used for irrigaton, but it is also good for toilets, pre-rinsing, and some outdoor cleaning.

    • Sean
      October 17, 2012 at 11:57 pm

      I can think of better choices of survival foods with good long term storage in varying climates. If cost vs quantity is driving your decision, there are things to consider if your going to rely on dog food for survival. Primarily, make sure its fit for human consumption. Most big namebrand dog foods (Iams, Beneful, Purina, Eukanuba, etc.) are not only bad for humans (I guess you could survive on it for a while), but they’re bad for your dog, too. However, there are some human grade dog foods available that might be a better choice. Check around the web and see what works for you. There’s even dehydrated natural, organic dog foods. Sorry to get off on a tangent. So I guess, to put it into a prepping perspective, when we’re prepping for our own survival, don’t forget about our best friends!

  9. TheNorthernSurvivalist
    December 14, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    Does anyone happen to know the life of olive oil? Don Lau, I know Dufur, OR! Small town and Azure Standard has an office in town and a farm out Dufur Valley Road. Small world. :)

    • Brian
      February 20, 2012 at 12:30 pm

      Many oils bought from stores are already in the process of spoiling.

    • Court
      November 16, 2013 at 7:44 am

      Coconut oil is the best long-term storage oil

  10. DatsRight
    December 19, 2010 at 6:29 am

    If you live in a more rural area, keep small livestock as well. Milk, eggs, meat.

  11. January 15, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    And don’t forget about your pets

  12. jim
    January 31, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    How about matches and candles? I see Bic lighters and lighter fluid mentioned but don’t forget matches or flints/steel for fire starting.

  13. austin
    March 28, 2011 at 6:37 am

    Also chocolate bars. They give a quick boost of energy and a little pickmeup.

    • Kyle
      November 24, 2013 at 6:47 pm

      If you want a big bang for a little cost and les space, 90% dark chocolate (99% if you can handle it) is bitter as can be, but it takes 1/5 as much to give you the same amount of energy. I once went a day and a half of eating just one dark chocolate bar before I even got hungry.

  14. ezchef
    April 19, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    Snicker Bars!!! Protein, carbs, sugars, sodium and packed with calories. I now right now it seems like junk food buts its and excellent little pack of power. I always keep a half dozen or so in my GHB.

  15. ezchef
    April 19, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    Thinking about the LONG term. I would suggest everyone pickup “Open Pollinated, Heirloom seed” packed in Mylar. Amazon has a great one with 34,000 seed all in one bag.

  16. Dusty
    August 3, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    These are all amazing ideas and that is a great list, I would just add Aspirin to it. I’ve been playing with my blood pressure and that keeps it in line along with my medications. Time to print out this page.

  17. marcie
    August 7, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    A couple of items I would like to mention that I think should be added to this. First, a deck of playing cards to pass the time and to keep spirits up. Plus there is thousands of games you can play with cards. Second, there is a book called “herbal remedies” that I just love that if very informative. Thirdly, hygiene products for cleanliness, protection from some illnesses and for morale. I’ve been putting together go bags and survival kits for years and most people tend to forget these items.

  18. dustyr
    August 9, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    tilla makes a jar lid sealer for canning jars.
    a refrigeration type vacuum pump will pull a vacuum so low that it will cause water to boil at room temperature. all of my dehydrated foods are under extreme vacuum. the vacuum even causes bubbles to appear in honey. it takes some figuring to mate up the vacuum pump with the size tubing for the jar sealer. I figure no air then no oxygen….

  19. Franklin
    August 27, 2011 at 11:47 pm

    The list should say: salt, salt, salt, salt, and more salt. Salt, in addition to making food taste good, is very useful in preserving food. With salt you can preserve meat and make pickles. An additional item to include, if you consider storing and growing flint corn is lime. Processing corn with lime or another alkaline is essential for releasing nutrients, otherwise, get acquainted with the word “pellagra.”

    • diannamarsolek
      April 6, 2012 at 12:47 pm

      yup SALT SALT SALT but dont get the minerals salt it will reck canning and drying foods trust me i would know i have been doing this for over 20 years and found out the hard way and for trade good i have tabco and everclear we dont drink or smoke but others do and you dont want to have friends freaking out win it hits the fan it also can get you stuff you need as for food corn is your friend so are beans but remember to use the ashes from your fire to soke the corn in before you cook it i would keep a couple of animals if i were you as well it dont matter what kind as long as there’s meat on them win you need it

      • rev. dave
        October 5, 2012 at 6:56 am

        Grain alcohol is not only a trade item, but you can use it in your med kit as well in place of rubbing alcohol. That way, you can sterilize a wound, numb it for stitching, and get your self a little bit steadier all out of the same bottle – and trade off the left-overs later if you need to.

        And just BTW, alcohol is the only pain killer I’ve ever used for damaged joints and broken bones that I don’t develop a tolerance to. I seldom get ‘drunk’, but after a couple of drinks most any pain is gone or significantly relieved.

  20. Ryan Herndon
    September 9, 2011 at 9:08 am

    Bullets!!!even for guns you may not have. Salt, Bleach, spam, can foods, MULTIVITAMINS!, tampons, listerine, LOTS OF Cheap Vodka. propane, aspirin, toothpaste, rubbing alcohol, peroxide, did I say BULLETS!!!?, INDUSTRIAL WORK BOOTS! (ALSO SAVE OLD SHOES), salted whole hams, PEANUT BUTTER!!! A S–T LOAD OF IT!, vaccum sealed coffee, lysol, Ensure, pedialyte, gatoraid, cheap used bullet proof vest, Railroad 10 min flares, sewing kit, IODINE,rain barrel, washtub, laying hens, DOGFOOD, parachute cord (trust me on this), duct tape, several good knives all kinds, more bullets, vodka, and bleach!!! and an untrusting open mind! people go crazy when when the grid is off.

    • ZombieFreakk
      March 7, 2012 at 4:16 pm

      Awesome list!! Added all of it! Thanks so much!!!

    • kyle
      November 24, 2013 at 6:57 pm

      pedialyte and gatoraid are about the same thing. you’d be better off saving peialyte and adding sugar to it when you want.

  21. Jon Beatty
    September 9, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    Applause to Ryan Herndon! Goes along with my motto “Stock up on dried beans and ammo”.

    Is there anywhere a reasonable list of minimal stuff for the Grab Bag? I have a full sized Alice Pack for me and the wife but not sure what all NEEDS to be in it! I’m 68 and there is no way I can tote all that is recommended for more than about 25 yards….:)

    Bless you all when the time comes!

  22. Survival Supplies
    October 18, 2011 at 10:05 am

    Great list of items compiled here. Don’t forget a food cooking system for example a stainless still grill and charcoal. You can pack in matches or a bic to make sure you don’t forget something to light it with.

  23. RKB
    October 26, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    AA Batteries/Bic Lighters – Small but great items to barter for other things. BBABAB RKB

  24. fred
    November 3, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    Just have lots of guns and ammo and take what you need from folks who neglected to stock up on guns and ammo.

    • diannamarsolek
      April 6, 2012 at 12:52 pm

      you sir are a ass and would be the first one i shot and yes i have guns and ammo but i dont tell allot of people and yes i do know how to use them i lived on the border AZ mexico for a long time and HAD to use them so get over yourself and becouse you never know who will have them

    • DDB
      June 27, 2012 at 4:51 pm

      Fred like to see you take stuff from some of these people, you sir will be littered with holes cause you are a j**k a**. To the guy named frank that disrespected the older lady people like you wont make it any way thinning out your gene pool is the best for this world….. On a lighter note there are some good list on here gave me great ideas to add to my stock pile thank you to the people who share your ideas.. be safe out there

    • rev. dave
      October 5, 2012 at 7:01 am

      So you’re looking for an opportunity to be a predator is that it Fred? How long do you think it’ll be before you mistake some old guy like me for an easy mark and end up triple-tapped?

    • mark
      November 10, 2012 at 1:41 pm

      I think Fred needs only 2 things, a noose and a place from which to jump. I have a rope, Fred . . .

      • tammy
        November 11, 2012 at 4:48 pm

        This is where the parachute cord comes in!!

  25. Clint
    November 3, 2011 at 6:16 pm

    I see ramen noodles on the list. I plan on repacking them using one of the home vacum packers. And I plan adding a desciant pack to each. That will help them store better I hope. I hate the taste old rancid ramen noodles.

  26. Y. Smith
    November 3, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    Add to that vegi seeds, make sure that they are the NON-hybrid type so you can save some seeds for the next season. They will come in handy

  27. Claudia B.
    November 4, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    All of you have great ideas! Thank you. If we are trying to survive a natural (or man made) disaster, I would think a hand crank radio would be a good idea to keep in touch with the rest of the world, whatever shape it might be in.


  28. Cindy
    November 14, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    Make sure you check into what honey you are buying. Most honey has little pollen in it. So a local honey producer (may) have more or Wholefoods may as well. Research this one.

  29. Jen M
    November 16, 2011 at 11:46 am

    I’ve got a pretty good start to my family’s survival kit. My question is if you have to bug out, how in the world can you take all of these items with you? And if you are on foot, I don’t see how it’s possible at all. So if you have to condense what you bring with you, what are the absolute essentials?

    • Christene
      April 26, 2012 at 10:36 am

      A good way to make sure that you can tote all the essentials is to have a dog that can pack. We have a Pittie mix, Atlas, that can pack. Granted, it would never be the same amount as we could, but, he can still pack a fair amount. The bigger the dog, the more weight they can handle. Plus, they are part of your security. So, they will earn their keep.

      • JM
        June 8, 2012 at 7:36 am

        Not to mention that dogs can be a great source of protein if the going gets really tough.

        • Pete
          August 15, 2013 at 12:17 pm

          never happen, would let the old lady and the dog chomp on me,

  30. Luis
    December 19, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    Think A-Z, pack a little of everything!! Top priority:
    1. Ammo
    2. Water
    3. Medical/Dental gear
    4. Misc survival gear
    5. Cold/Hot weather gear
    6. Creativity
    7. Barter gear

    Good luck and gear up.

  31. Sandra
    December 26, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    My family has 20 acres in northern Michigan between a few Amish farms. I intend to leave most of my shtf pile there as thats where my final destination is! Though not sure how living all together will end up we may end up our own enemies we all know that’s where we will go! 7 adults and 3 kids! So I will have each family a backpacking pack with enough to get us there by foot beyond that it’s back to the basics which for the first 10 years there we had no electric water or gas so I stayed for 3 weeks early spring one year when I was about 17 in sure I can handle it!

  32. Sandra
    December 26, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    if u are blessed with property like myself start planting fruit trees now as most take years to start producing fruit! And a grape vine and strawberries hard to kill once they start so remember to think of that when planting

  33. Liberty Lady
    December 27, 2011 at 11:38 pm

    This is a fairly good list, but I would like to make a few suggestions. I would also add olive oil as it is cheaper than coconut oil and does not get rancid (neither does coconut oil.) I would also add brown rice as it is far higher in nutritional value than white rice. Most ground flours have less than a 1 year shelf life and begin to lose nutritional value within days. Which leads me to suggest that you invest in a grain grinder. Bouillon is something I believe shouldn’t be left out. I’m not seeing much vitamin C rich fruits, so add some dehydrated fruits to your list. Powdered milk is okay but not great, if you are in a rural location you might consider goats for fresh milk. Enzymes are important for good health so sprouting seeds are worth considering. And last, some comfort foods, like hot chocolate or whatever. This is more for the phychological aspect, but are important in times of crisis, especially if children are involved. And add variety as you are able to prevent appetite fatigue.

    • diannamarsolek
      April 6, 2012 at 12:59 pm

      lard as well i love your list i would however recommend a gritter not a grinder thy are cheaper and you can make allot with it and it is a bit stronger you can also grind seeds with it i have both a grain mill and a gritter and use the gritter to make everything from peanut butter to coarse flour

    • BLTW
      May 17, 2014 at 2:17 pm

      Olive oil does go rancid.

  34. Shirley
    December 28, 2011 at 12:04 am

    I enjoyed reading everyone’s input, and will start creating my “BOB” bag. The first item I am placing in my bag is a survival book, followed by a change of underwear and socks—as when “it” decides to hit the fan for us. I am thinking a clean pair or 2 of underwear might just come in handy and some soap! My next item would be a SOG knife followed by the list of grocery items provided as well as a sleeping bag and pillow, followed by a deck of cards.

  35. mom that is planning
    December 29, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    Thanks for all your posts, I have learned a lot from them. I have a serious question though, any serious thoughts would be appreciated. Sandra made a good point of having property(out of city). We also have use of property out side of major cities(only one available), but if we stockpile most of the goods there(what we want to do for safety), how can we get to it in a flash? The property is 750 miles away! Depending on the situation, driving may be out of the question as would on foot. My hubby thinks I am goofy for asking this Q, but I am trying my best to plan for what ever comes our way,as we have young children.

    • Iluvmy357
      January 1, 2012 at 3:45 am

      Hi ” Mum that is planning”
      I just found this site tonight and saw your question. I’m not as prepared as some, but am very interested in all the advice on these sites. I live in Australia on the East Coast, but about 1 hr from Gosford NSW on 44 acres with my wife and 2 kids.
      You mentioned if the SHTF traveling 750 miles to your safe haven.
      I would imagine fuel would be rare and the roads jammed, but depending on how many kids you have, maybe a couple of trail bikes ( with small trailers) would do the trick. You can take them off road, and even negotiate around traffic jams. You could carry a spare jerry can of fuel in each trailer, camp out of site off road, etc.
      I just bought my kids trail bikes ( to play on) but if we had to get out of here in a hurry they could be used on road
      I don’t think unregistered trail bike riders are going to be a high priority for the police if the. sHTF

      Good luck

      • Sandra Leathers
        January 3, 2012 at 12:04 am

        Trail bikes would be good, as well as 4 wheelers. You would have to take extra gas. The trail bikes probably wouldn’t use as much gas.

    • Locked&Loaded
      January 3, 2012 at 11:04 pm

      Mom, One of the hardest decisions a person/family will have to make after SHTF, is whether to Shelter-In-Place or Bug-Out. So plan carefully for as many scenarios as you can think of, then determine for each scenario whether you would need to SIP or Bug-Out. You’ll be surprised to reveal as long as you have an abundant stockpile similar to these postings at your home, and with adequate security to defend your home against invasions, you will consider SIP more than you would Buggin-Out, barring a situation that forces you to Bug-Out (flood, fire, etc.). The purpose of a Bug-Out-Location cannot be overlooked, however once you leave your SIP location your family’s safety/security will be jeopardized. Here’s why, almost all the non-prepper suburbanites will also be Buggin-Out (albeit with very few resources, if any at all); they will be half starved, dehydrated, and very dangerous. When their health begins to deteriorate they will do ANYTHING for food, water, warmth, or even medicine. Even if it means stealing yours or taking yours by force. Your family’s chances of survival will increase if you’re in an easily defendable home, but make sure you plan every detail. On the contrary, you are a target of opportunity for any person or gang while on the move, unless you and your family are avid students of cover/concealment. Devote your resources to stockpiling at your current residence first in preparation to SIP, then consider a BOL. food for thought.

      • mom that is planning
        January 4, 2012 at 9:33 pm

        Thank you everyone for replying. I did look up trail bikes/atv’s as you mentioned. I have also considered SIP for a while now. We are working on and are good on that front(as we can be so far). The only problem is that my SIP is in dangerous territory. Any SHTF around here would cause immediate and extreme issues. Depending on what happened(shtf),I could be dealing with floods, high crime/safety,and very ill prepared surroundings almost immediately. It’s hard to have one foot planted and one ready to BO. It’s all just so unnerving. So many people tell you that nothing is going to happen,period. Then you have those that say SOMETHING is going to happen(I am one of those). It’s hard to plan what is best. I appreciate your thoughts so much, you have no idea. It’s nice to be able to talk to people who understand what is at stake and believe in the SHTF. Thanks again everyone for your continued support!

        • jim 28th reg.
          January 21, 2012 at 6:10 am

          Mom U shld try to get in touch with your local malitia. Perhaps you could also try to trade your far away location with one that’s closer. Prob.chk. with local real estate guy. When TSHTF by the time you get to your far away spot it’ll already either be destroyed or occupied by some other family trying to survive. For now let us all pray that this will prove unnessary and our grandchildren can poke fun at us for being paranoid. May GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

        • rev. dave
          October 5, 2012 at 7:14 am

          I think differently from Jim. In a long term situation, your best safety move will be to ‘get remote’. Wild urban mobs will only get so far, and darned sure not 750 miles. I would keep that place and just try to move closer to it, not ditch it – unless of course that far away is less remote than someplace part of that distance – i.e. it may be close to a big city also.

          On the other hand, you should be prepared to leave quickly, and early. NEVER wait for an evacuation order – look at the photos of choked highways every time there’s a hurricane. It’s easier to go halfway to your hideout and come back because the storm missed (or the crisis was averted) than to be trapped on the interstate behind a 20 mile parking lot of out of gas cars.

          And with 750 mile to go, you’d probably best keep a jerry-can or two of gas around, and use that to fill your car about every 3rd month and refill the cans with fresh. Make sure you have about twice what you’ll need normally, in case of detours and traffic jams, or in case your tank is near empty when you have to leave.

          • Grandpa Frog
            February 8, 2014 at 5:25 am

            Also treat the gas with a stablizer, such as Sta-Bil.

          • Naomi Becerra
            October 5, 2016 at 7:47 pm

            I am in my 60s and my husband does not believe in prepping but I am trying to learn what we can do and still stay in our home.We live semi rural area in IN.

    • Aaron'sCastleDefense
      October 7, 2012 at 10:01 pm

      Motorcycles get you past traffic jams and use little fuel…you could pack the bags, handlebars, and tow a trailer full of weapons, er, food/water

  36. brijo89
    January 1, 2012 at 11:50 pm

    I found this list to be very helpful, as well as everyone’s advice! I am just so frazzled thinking about all of this, and my family thinks I am just wasting my youth (I just turned 22) on pointless paranoia. My husband and I with our 2 children are planning to move to Asia within the next year to the country in which he was born, where he has a few acres of land and a lot of family. My question is this: as an American, would I really be in any more danger there than I would be here when the SHTF? We have been planning this move for almost 3 years, but now with everything getting worse much faster than I could have imagined, my huband is afraid for our children and myself…and I am starting to worry about it myself, to be honest. However, I also understand that if something as huge as I fear might occur really does come about, all of us will be in danger no matter where we are to some extent…right?

    • diannamarsolek
      April 6, 2012 at 1:09 pm

      you would be a out sider there and would most likely be killed or just left to fend for yourself i have a friend that moved to the east and she lost everything and almost did not make it back thy mostly dont like white folks at all and win it hits the fan you may have a bigger problem there than you would here i am sorry i dont intend to be mean but she is still healing and my never see her son agen and she is 1/2 Asian her husband was full i am not saying this would happen to you but stresses can cause people to do things thy would not normally do and the folks you are talking about tend to be a bit clannish

      • brijo89
        September 27, 2012 at 12:05 am

        Specifically, the Philippines. I know the lower islands have cannibals and such, but other than that, most Filipinos don’t have an issue with Amercans. Everyone in the family I have met so far has been very welcoming and supportive, even protective since we are family now, but in extreme situations, you never really know how people are going to react. Like I said, when all this really explodes, it wll be dangerous everywhere. I only take comfort in the fact that we will be living in an extremely secluded area with abundant fresh water and food sources, and if anyone did happen to find us, we are prepared to defend our own. I have considered the possibility of being found and hurt or being sent back to the States without my family, and that scares me more than anything. My husband and I have talked about that, and honestly, the only thing we can do is pray and do our best.

        • Sandra
          June 14, 2013 at 5:53 pm

          You are thinking in the right direction sweetie. I pray for us all but just remember that God lives in all of us the good and the bad… the bad an opportunity to repent. We are to prepare ourselves physically and spiritually. God bless you and yours’.

          • ME
            October 16, 2013 at 1:19 pm

            No Sandra, God does NOT live in all of us. He lives in those who have opened the door when He knocked, and allowed Him into our hearts and lives. Yes, all have every chance to come to Him, but in those who choose to shut Him out, that is a choice HE gave all people, and He respects their choice.

        • Majo
          November 17, 2013 at 7:46 am

          Learn some useful skills, like first aid and wound care, ask the local grandmothers about healing plants, make yourself really valuable to the family.

        • BLTW
          May 17, 2014 at 2:23 pm

          I’ve lived in Asia 8 years, 3 years in the Philippines right after Marcos was removed. I felt safer there than in my US City. The violence there is targeted, not the gratuitous violence we have in the USA

  37. Sandra Leathers
    January 3, 2012 at 12:16 am

    I planted a peach tree 2 years ago. I also planted a cherry tree but it didn’t make it. I am going to plant an apple tree, strawberry patch, and some raspberry bushes. I have 2 pear trees that are already producing. Might also plant some blackberries.

  38. charlotte
    January 7, 2012 at 2:34 pm


    Depends entirely on which country you’re talking about. “Asia” has quite a bit of variety, after all.

    • brijo89
      September 27, 2012 at 12:13 am

      The Philippines. We have our own land there in an extremely secluded area that has an abundance of fresh water and food sources nearby. The house has already been built in such a way that we will not have to depend on electricity or anything. We plan to keep atleast some goats and chickens. We also make a habit of sending extra supplies and food to a friend there who will keep our stock ready until we move.

  39. Lee
    January 8, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    I live in a small town in middle Ohio. I have been preparing for years for the worst to happen.(not as much as some) I think we will be safe to SIP, for a reasonable amount of time. I also think our small town would come togather and work as a team when SHTF. My family has enough to survive for 6+ months. I am planning on getting a few hens this spring(hoping here is no ordance against it.) I plant a small garden, that will bigger than normal this coming season. We have a small camper that is ready in 10 mins to pull out should BO be the need. I have backpacks in place to grab on the way out the door, and MANY totes filled also. (with goods).
    I find it funny how many people that I talk to think I am CRAZY. I am guessing they don’t look around or listen to the news to see and hear that SH*T is already hitting the fan!! I will be doing more prepping in the coming months.I hope that more people will also. Good luck!!

    • Dawn Perry
      September 9, 2013 at 6:54 am

      LOL they thought Noah was crazy too when he was building his ARK in the desert, and we all know what happened there dont we…………… I am a single mother of 3 young children and I have felt compelled to do this for years now but have no resources to do it.

      • Bren
        September 10, 2013 at 9:22 pm

        Hi Dawn – You do have the resources.
        Number 1 is you! :-)
        Start small, and smart.
        Essential for life – Water.
        Essential for body thermal regulation – shelter. Reduces the need for extra daily food allowances food and excess water.
        Then go from there.
        You can buy bottled water or do your own. There are plenty of great ideas on the net for safe and cheap water.
        Shelter at home where possible. Keep warm / keep cool.
        If you can add just a can or two a week to the groceries, some powdered milk, cereal or rolled oats, you will quickly have a 3 day supply over and above what is in your pantry already.
        Do your research and have faith.
        You can do it.
        My hubby thinks I’m nuts bit I feel strong knowing I have done something to prepare and protect our young son when TSHTF.
        Godspeed to you

  40. Michelle
    January 13, 2012 at 11:05 am

    Today I asked my hubby what he thought about getting a disaster kit together,and he did what I thought he would do,he thinks its a big joke.I must say the world looks like it is getting ready to make all of us people very uncomfortable.I wish we could all work together to make it safer and easer on eachother.Band together,help eachother out and not become all crazy and look at eachother as enemy’s after who knows what hits the fan.I am a wife and a mother of two boys.We love to camp and love life just like you all do.Lord help us all.Thanks for all of the good ideads.There are a couple of things I think would be heplful, banockalers,magnifying glass,compass,bug spray,sling shot,and maybe a stun gun,fishing line and hooks,sunglasses,peper to go with your salt,and gum.I have a couple of questions too. What does SIP,”Sh!T hits the fan” I’m guessing, and Bug out Bag. Where do ya all store all of this stuff and what do ya store it in.What do ya do when you run out of TP? TP can take up alot of space thats for sure. Well it looks like its time to start making beef jurkey. Have a blessed day!

    • mom that is planning
      January 15, 2012 at 3:46 pm

      Hi Michelle! When I try to talk to people, they too look at me like I am goofy! Your not alone on that one! SIP means Shelter in Place. You have the rest of the abbreviations right(BOB is bug out bag). It is overwhelming when you sit back and think of all this stuff. As a mother, I know it’s hard to try and gather info/everything on your own. About where/what to store all in, that is a good question that I hope some of our veteran posters will answer for us all. Sadly, I have seen first hand what happens in a crisis and people don’t band together. People who are your neighbors that you love, can quickly become your worst enemy. So plan accordingly. Someone once told me that we should have “teams”. Teams of people you trust, can talk about SHTF with, and make plans to survive with for when that moment hits. Veteran posters, is that a good idea? I’d appreciate thoughts on the notion of “teams”.

      • dawn
        October 10, 2012 at 5:24 pm

        If you have young ones in diapers I’d stock up on diapers in the next size bigger its nice to have extra on hand anyway.
        Baby wipes are great for anyone esp if bathing is infrequent. don’t forget childrens tylenol for bigger kids I try to have extra shoes and coats in a bigger size
        any thing I can find after season on clearance or on sale in a bigger size is stached

      • Michael
        November 18, 2013 at 7:58 pm

        Right on. Start now and form reliable friendships with your close neighbors. They will be the ones you’re trusting to watch your back, and you are the one they are trusting to watch theirs.

        One way or another, be prepared for the reality that whether through crisis or prosperity we will each eventually die and meet God face to face. Make every effort to cultivate love for him before hand through trusting in Jesus, or it won’t be pleasant.

        Secondly, all of these supplies will help, but only so much. In a real scenario like this, the most valuable thing you’ll have is what people cannot take from you by force: expertise and skill. Have a specialty in some or another area, and you yourself will be valuable to those around you.

        As for packing, for many people this will be a last resort, because the bulk of what little supplies they have will probably be right there with them. May want to get some kind of hand-drawn or bicycle-drawn cart that you can load. Without wheels, you’re reduced to a backpack, and even those that are designed for long-term hiking do not hold nearly as much as you will want to bring, so you have to decide what you can make do with.

        Resupplying will quickly become an issue, which means that you’re going to want to rely on that from the beginning. That means focusing more on having the tools with which to produce rather than having the products themselves. Categories you may want to consider are tools for:
        water filtration

        (cutting, sawing, matches, etc)
        Basic food preparation (cutting, scooping, carrying)
        Hunting (if you or someone else with you feels confident. Most of the time this will not be a reliable food source, even in the wild.)
        Shelter crafting (knife, axe, twine or thin rope 550 Paracord is excellent)

        Clothing is cumbersome to carry, so be very careful what you choose (assuming you have the time in the moment). Don’t waste time with shorts and clothing for hot weather, because anyone can survive this. Focus on one or two sets of cold weather clothing and consider clothing that you can wash and dry easily.

        Note that a lot of what is required for these tasks carries over (a knife, for example)

        Honestly, I don’t think I would bother to travel under this sort of circumstance unless forced to do so by impending natural disaster or threats of crime or violence. If at all possible, make friends. Find something to barter with, especially services and expertise.

        This is an extreme example, but during the Nazi prison camps in WW2, the people skilled in medicine or in music were often kept alive longer because of their ability to help or encourage others.

    • diannamarsolek
      April 6, 2012 at 1:14 pm

      you use a rag that you wash win you are dun with it and hang it out me i have that .and in my hidey hole we have phone books that are great for that as well as games as for your hubby well i dont know mine is the one helping me i think i would find friends that think like me and then win it hits the fan at least you and the kids would be ok even if he stayed there

  41. Dave
    January 15, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    Not a bad list, but I think water needs to be at the top of any list. Don’t waste your money on soap, so you won’t waste your water. There are foaming body washes available that don’t require water, or keep some wet wipes on hand. Preserve every drop of water possible for drinking. Water purification tablets and/or a portable mircoilter in case you run out of bottled water.

  42. David134
    January 16, 2012 at 10:44 am

    Hello everyone. I am new to this site but not this arguement. When hurricane Rita came throught my home town in Texas ( had not had a real one in twenty years ) many people found out that not being prepared at all had serious consequences.Luckily my parents had friends in Dallas where they could stay for the MONTH that there was no power. Even if you are not a “conspiracy person” as I am always called, there are very few areas in this country that are not subseptible to some type of natural disaster. A little prep now can save alot of hard work later. Even just a few extra cans of soup,are a cheap bic every week at the store will add up to put you far ahead of most of your neighbors. Good luck all.

  43. Sheila
    January 22, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    Should would be nice if you would monitor and delete some of the bad comments……check out Frank’s comment dated January 16, 2012. Really disheartening!!!

    • Off Grid Survival
      January 22, 2012 at 10:09 pm

      No doubt his comment was arrogant and displays the ignorance of today’s youth. We try not to delete any comments on here unless they are threatening someone but thanks for responding to Frank’s comment.

      I also added a response above with a link to a video that show just what someone in their 70’s can do in a survival situation.

      • A watson
        February 3, 2012 at 5:04 am

        Regarding Frank’s input on this website. I been around 73 year’s and I can put a bullet thru th head of a squirrle most every shot. No matter how high in th tree. I can live off th land and do very well huntin, fishing and living in th wild. I am very well armed and you people that are not better get prepaired. I look at survival kinda like having insurance on yer house or car. Ya hope ya never use it but ya better have it when your house burn’s down.

        • "Life is short"
          March 5, 2012 at 2:29 am

          Well to be prepared with “things” make sure your “things” are tornado proof. How about the thousands of homes that have been leveled completely over the years. I hope those people didn’t waste a lot of time energy and money preparing these “things”. You know, an old saying is “life is short” well lets just get it over with already! We are all so much dying to live, but think, we are really simply living to die! The last first and the first last. Hmmm whatever. Everything is irrelevant! Everything!

      • VANGIE
        April 3, 2013 at 8:08 pm


      • Former SEAL
        January 22, 2015 at 10:52 am

        I believe the elderly to be a valued resource,and as any good resource should be cared for and protected, best as can.
        While health issues, stress, and just plain time will take its toll, I feel that more than a few will make it through a catastrophic situation.
        Point in fact, they’re still here…when others are not.
        Personally, me and mine are prepared to take care of, protect, shelter, provide,and if need be…defend our folks. This was a decision that was thought on and decided almost a decade ago.
        Our skill sets are such that our personal survival, standards of living, and security are of a high probility of sucess, so this has been deemed “affordable”.
        Never underestmate the value of “hands on” expirences, especially when there’s been a lifetimes worth.

  44. Chef
    January 23, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    I live in northern WV and have some land in southern WV which is my BO location as it is far less populated and situated close to clean water, wild game and abundant wood for heat. My only thought on how this site may not be good is if my neighbors decide to defend outsiders from occupying the area as I don’t have a house or cabin, only a cave and camping area.

    • mom that is planning
      January 24, 2012 at 6:31 pm

      Hi Chef! Maybe you could somehow go there now, maybe on a weekend or something, and mark off your land so to speak. In hopes that maybe your neighbors will see you, get to know you and see that some of the land is yours. Maybe have a camping trip and introduce yourself to your neighbors and make small talk about outdoor living/camping, to maybe gauge how they feel about this topic. I hope this helps, I hope others give you feedback as well, maybe you could find a solution.

      • chef
        January 26, 2012 at 7:53 pm

        thanks for the feedback, mom. i have met the nearest year round neighbor and he does see me occasionally go down in the hollow for a weekend of camping/exploring. my real concern is for the couple of guys who have their hunting cabins (possible BOL’s) whom i’ve never seen around in the 8 years we’ve owned the property. some people are of the shoot first ask questions never variety. =/

        • diannamarsolek
          April 6, 2012 at 1:18 pm

          i would WORK ON meeting them as soun as you can and ask them what thy think and see if you can share i know it sounds strange but it would work to all yous benefit also then you would know what you had to deal with there

          • Sewster
            January 28, 2013 at 2:42 pm

            Another thing to think about…if you works miles from home and EMP strikes, how will you get home? I plan to get a foldable bike to put in my trunk along with a BOB will the essentials to get me home. Gun and ammo included.

  45. things no one thinks of...
    February 5, 2012 at 12:02 am

    I noticed no one mentioned Nuts as a survival food, a few silver coins marked for quality (for trading), and goggles (prevents eye damage as it would be one of the most difficult kinds of injuries to treat)and renders pepper spray useless.

  46. Gerry
    February 8, 2012 at 11:35 am

    Just a note to add alcohol and alcohol wipes (isopropyl) far better than peroxide (which will kill the skin around a wound) I’ve been in 2 unwelcome survival instances and this was one item I really wanted. (among others) the wipes have a million and one uses from fire starting to cleaning to just making you feel better. I have 3 bug out bags with EVERYTHING for 14 days(and I do mean everything, each weighs 30 lbs) for 4 people and its a habit to practice all skills every other month. Love this site its very valuable in its information.

  47. nathan
    February 11, 2012 at 7:07 am

    its a good thing to have glow sticks. you can get them in packs of 2 in many colors for around 2 dollars its a good thing to have. they have a shelf life of 2 to 3 years if unopend and stored right. plus SOG brand makes great light weight survival gear. i have two machetes 1 is 13 inch other is 18 inch. and there hatchet. also pack cotton it has many different uses like lighting fire ect. hope this info helps any one

  48. mmmm
    February 25, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    white and brown vinegar surely must be on the list as well as army ration packs still,ate a 53 year old one a while back it was fine

  49. TabWyo
    February 28, 2012 at 8:06 am

    The list of thing you can buy at a store are endless. A few more suggestions I’d make that I didn’t see skimming the comments or in the article.

    Whole Black Pepper Corns
    Backing Soda
    Cream Of Tartar
    Whole Bay Leaves
    Flavored bullion salt
    Salt replacement w/ KCl (potassium chloride)
    Mrs. Dash (they have like 6 different mixes)
    Corn syrup
    Vanilla and Maple extracts
    There are endless options for storage edibles so these are just a few “must haves” I have in my stores that weren’t on the original list.

    Medications are way over looked. I keep these well stocked in my home.
    Rubbing Alcohol
    Ipecac (in case of accidental poisoning)
    Emetrol (to stop vomiting)
    Mineral Oil (for when you can’t go….)
    Imodium (for when you can’t stop going….)
    Preparation H (not just for your bungus)
    Ambesol (because toothaches suck)
    Gauze & Athletic tape (like what boxers use)
    Hydrogen Peroxide
    toothpaste, floss & extra brushes
    Colloidal Silver solution (easy to make)
    Bleach….. lots of bleach
    Once again…. this list can become endless as well. Not to mention any prescription meds you may need…. this can be hard to stockpile legally and not be arrested for being a drug dealer. Oh and a couple sets of prescription glasses for you bespectacled folks out there.

    Here are also a few general goods I like to have a good supply of.
    a few axe handles (they will break)
    a file or two (to keep cutting tools sharp)
    Knives (fixed blade and folding)
    Rope (lots of rope, cordage and twine)
    Duct tape
    large outdoor trash bags
    5 gallon buckets (I have over 100 and counting)
    a large tackle box full of sewing supplies
    various fish hooks, mono & braided line and sinkers
    tin foil
    oodles of matches and lighters
    candles, candles, candles
    This too can turn into an endless list……..

    Another big thing I see a lot of would be “preppers” (and I am a newb myself) is that they focus on what they can buy and store and don’t put a lot of emphasis of developing practical skills.

    Gardening is a skill that you can’t buy. Having a can full of heirloom seeds doesn’t ensure you can grow a garden and feed your family…. first off, gardens take time to grow. So you’d best have one going before you need it.

    Simple skills like practical first aid are often overlooked because people get a little leaflet in their first aid kit and think they are covered. Being a former FMF Navy Corpsman and a combat vet. I can attest to the fact that in a high stress situation, unless you have the skills memorized you WILL waist time, make mistakes, injure further and/or possibly kill the person you are attempting to care for.

    Trapping is a very under stressed and rarely developed skill I feel is invaluable. Once again, lots of people have a survival guide that has a chapter on snares and traps. But if you have no experience and are working from a book….. your failure rate will be exponentially higher than if you have practical hands on experience.

    Long winded…. I’ll shut up now

    • Ammie
      March 11, 2012 at 9:41 pm

      Great ideas!! I live in Western Michigan and my husband is an avid hunter. Having the skills to hunt and trap in a “Doomsday” world could be the difference between life and death. I learned the art of canning over the years and am planning an extra large garden this year.
      Something that I think has been overlooked is the value of medicinal plants! I am planning to educate myself on local plants and hopefully this could help in a pinch.

    • Zach
      April 23, 2012 at 9:21 am


      I was a former FMF Corpsman with 1st Bn 8th Marines. I am stockpiling medical supplies as a huuuuge part of preps. A well-trained Corpsman will be invaluable to a group of survivors. People will do what they have to do to take care of the “doc”

      • Jo
        October 17, 2012 at 9:10 pm

        HOO AH!

  50. andrew
    March 7, 2012 at 10:26 pm

    i see a lot of good items on this thread, but in all seriousness how do all of you plan on taking 400 pounds of gear with you when you “bug out”? not to say that having “stuff” wouldn’t be helpful but in an emergency situation having practiced skills like tracking, trapping, building a fire, building a shelter etc. are much more important. having a hundred lighters wont help you if you need to get out of dodge in a hurry. and speaking from experience, avoiding trouble is better than trying to be prepared for a guns blazing balls to the wall video game blitz to your hideout in the woods. its easy to catch a stray bullet in a firefight, i saw it plenty of times in Afghanistan, its easier to stay hidden, and to do that you need to travel light. my oh sh!t bag includes:

    large alice pack
    pistol belt with shoulder straps
    hunting knife
    pocket knife
    2 canteens
    water purification tablets
    30ft parachute cord.(the size of a boot lace but can hold up to 550 lbs)
    a one man tent
    a wool blanket(a little heavy, but warm even when wet)
    a small dollar store frying pan, and pot(light weight and cost me like $4 each)
    1 lb bag of trail mix(from sams club)
    1 lb bag of beef jerky(also from sams club)
    a waterproof tin with a couple lighters, a magnesium fire-starter, char-cloth, cotton, and a wad of cedar bark
    a few fishing hooks and 50 feet of fishing line
    and some more piddly little odds and ends

    all in all it weighs about 35 lbs, including my ruck sack and utility belt.
    i have survived in the woods with these supplies for one, two, and three week periods of time on a regular basis for fun, in the last four years. there is really no need for a massive stockpile of stuff unless you plan on fortifying your home and bunking down for an extended period of time. not saying you all are going too far with the stockpile. especially if you have a family with children. holing up with plenty of supplies is DEFINITELY going to be a safer option with kids, but for all you lone wolfs out there, light weight gear is the way to go.

    • juanita
      October 18, 2012 at 9:58 pm

      you forgot medical supplies, an extra pair of socks, a bandana, some duct tape, and a sewing needle with a large eye to go with some dental floss

    • VANGIE
      April 3, 2013 at 8:27 pm


  51. susie
    March 19, 2012 at 1:59 pm

    I am a brand new follower! Wondering how you keep bugs & weavils out of the grains, rice, flour? Do you date it and rotate it every 6-12 months…?

    • Chant
      August 28, 2012 at 11:16 pm

      Bay Leaves are suppose to keep bugs out of grains and such. I read that adding 8 leaves to a 5-gal bucket is suppose to work. That and store your goods in sealed air-tight mylar bags with O2 absorbers. Stored right, rice can last 20 to 30 years… or so I’ve read.

      • dawn
        October 10, 2012 at 4:57 pm

        I just learned that freezing your flour for three weeks before storing it will kill any bug eggs already in it. Food grade diatomacious earth can be mixed with it to kill any bugs and if its food grade it IS safe to eat

      • Jo
        October 17, 2012 at 9:13 pm

        I’ve seen online where people are storing rice and beans in 2 liter plastic bottles. What’s anyone’s thoughts on this? I realize that storing them in air tight mylar with the O2 absorber would be better, but I’m on a tight budget right now.

  52. ecgoin
    April 3, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    Tabwyo and Andrew both have great lists. Everyone needs to customize thier own from lists that are available here and elsewhere.
    That list needs to start with a list of needed lists. Most of us live in or near cities, and I see that trend getting worse, so one of my important lists is of friends/family/neighbors, both near and far that we will try to stay in contact with, or in the case of neighbors, will be part of our group. Survival of a single family unit will be much more difficult than that of a larger group. Keep the people you trust near, and help them to prepare. I believe that they will be your key to survival, if it really goes badly in the world.
    I also didn’t see enough though to the use of fire. As with medical situations, know how to use and control your fire (and fire power). Practice every chance you get with the fuel at hand, wet, dry, green wood, grasses, even news and other papers.
    There is more at my website,
    I hope we are all prepared for as many disasters as can happen. I know I’m not near 100% prepared for any of them, but with some luck, and help of the group, we have a good shot.

  53. Mr Hello
    April 6, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    A great item to carry is chafing fuel canisters. About 4 of them together weigh a pound, and one canister lasts for about 2-3 hours. They’re easy to light, they burn hot enough to cook with, they produce no noticeable smoke, and the only light produced is a small bluish-clear flame. It’s perfect for when a fire would draw too much unwanted attention.

  54. diannamarsolek
    April 6, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    is there folks here in WA /OR state i am working on getting a group together to share info for this area OR WA as in the great north Wet i have almost everything on this list but am allways looking for more info and goodys i will trade

    • May 23, 2012 at 5:29 am

      My family and I live in Washington, on a naval base. Not sure how safe it’s going to be here where shtf but we shall see. My family and I do archery and go to gun range. I am prier military and my husband is still in. I have a culinary degree and spend most of my time prepping and learning new skills.
      I think most people should learn how to use a bow because once your ammo is gone it’s gone.

  55. Melanie
    April 10, 2012 at 7:39 am

    While we are all here looking at an optimum survival kit, I would add DUCT TAPE, HEIRLOOM (reproducible)vegetable seeds (many varieties of easily grown seeds at your local home improvement store are STERILE!), an ILLUSTRATED BOOK of edible native plants, FISH HOOKS (GEEZ, HOW WAS THIS OVERLOOKED?, and WEAPONS that do not require machined ammunition…such as a well-balanced throwing knife or a trusty bow. May I also suggest to my fellow green thumbs to make sure that TOBACCO seeds are a crucial part of your seed kit? It grows everywhere and I don’t think I have to tell anyone that it will rank right up there with alcohol as a top trade item in the future.

  56. Geronimo
    April 26, 2012 at 11:29 am

    + Bug Out CRATE packed and Ready..Just Load and Hook up Boat..Off to River to set up Base Camp on Small Island in the Middle Within Rifle Shot of Truck which will be Disabled…All Necessary items to sustain Life for a Couple of Months Plus for Wife and Self..Also Stocked Trade Bait if Necessary…You can Bet your Sweet DUPA we wont lack for Anything…Just Added Shortwave and Weatherband Radio w/ xtra Batteries, Tarps, Weapons, Ammo, Fuel for Lantern & Stove and Hatchet…Good Luck to those who Prepare…

  57. Teresa
    June 3, 2012 at 6:43 am

    OMG I am so depressed. I can’t even afford to buy the food I need for today. There is now way I can afford to be ready when they come for us or Japan blows up. What is that called Natural selection where the weaker dies off and the strong live on. I never thought it would happen to me. See ya all on the other side.

    • Rachael Beth
      July 17, 2012 at 4:25 pm

      Hi. This is to the person who felt defeated because of the inability to purchase extra food. First of all, the MOST important preparation for a disaster or catastrophic event is PSYCHOLOGICAL. You need to decide in advance that you WILL cope with what you are faced with and draw the strength and faith to get through. This thread is speaking about self-reliance. But for those without material survival goods, you have other things to offer which should be what you “store up” in preparation. First of all, you can get up to speed in the area of first aid to help others who will help you in exchange. You can prepare yourself physically to carry and transport for people who have supplies, babies etc and need to be mobile. You carry in exchange. You can also read up on the psychological phases of a crisis and prepare yourself to help your sphere of influence through leadership, discernment, and intervention in the worst case scenario. Also, it is important for you to realize that there will be many people in your same circumstance. Some will not bond or associate with others but many will seek the support of others.
      Through good mental and educational preparation, you can make alliances with others and together you can assess your circumstances and environment and come up with surviving resources. Even the most materially prepared people will be in a different frame of mind should a catastrophic event hit. Some people will have survival materials but not the mental capability to function. Believe me, as a former Red Cross Nurse, I can tell you that big strong grown men are sometimes apt to faint at the sights of what they see, while the older person or the single woman keeps a firm grasp of getting through and even helping others along the way. It’s very important to have a Survivor’s Perspective. If you have the attitude that you will just perish because you don’t have material supplies stored up, you likely will. And the reverse is true as well. Those who are bulked up with material preparation but are not psychologically prepared to function in a sudden catastrophic disaster sometimes can’t put one foot in front of the other. PREPARATION FOR SURVIVAL BEGINS IN THE MIND AND THEN MIGRATES TO THE SPIRIT. Not every person is going to be gun toting selfish person with an “us against the rest of you” mentality. Yes, there will be some of that, but there will also be kind hearted people at every turn as well. The first thing I have in my prep kits are pairs of eye glasses because without them, my functioning is reduced exponentially. Next, I have solar rechargable MP3 players that contain the narrated Bible and basic first aid instructions. I have enough to leave on someone’s chest by their ear if they are dying and I have to leave them. And there is one for me, because I’ve been through disasters and I know that for me, there is nothing more essential for me than to be strengthened by the Word of God. Whether here or on the other side,
      it’s how you cope and what your values are that make you who you. Whether I live or die, I’ll be doing it according to my principles and I know I will never be alone.
      Don’t get caught up strictly in the material things for survival. There is more to getting through than that. Surely, you don’t have to perish just for lack of supplies.
      May God bless us with His help and mercy in whatever comes.

      • Rachael Beth
        July 17, 2012 at 4:59 pm

        PS. I want to expound on a point so it doesn’t get overlooked. When something catastrophic happens, especially suddenly, people and animals go into reactions based upon our innate nervous system patterns. Society breaks down. At first there is an eery calm with shock. Fear and disbelief are the primary feelings, if they feel anything at all. Many people don’t even know that they are injured. There is a disorientation that everyone is wandering through. There is no communication or social leadership as we are used to. You will likely consider perhaps for the first time the possibility of your foreseeable death. Everyone’s psychological framework changes then and no one can know in advance exactly what their reactions will be until they are in the midst of it. What is essential is that you know this in advance and have already prepared yourself to overcome your instinctive fear, to realize that prioritizing will be difficult so have knowledge prepared in advance to guide you.
        Remember that the first cause of death in a disaster is medical. The second is exposure, next is dehydration, and way down the list is starvation. Therefore, prepare yourself mentally and spiritually to endure and survive, prepare materially the best you can, at least know first aid and emergency sanitation procedures, know about making shelter with what is available to you in your location, be aware of how to obtain water (which includes drinking your own sterile urine if necessary for short term), and then realize that you can get to Day 3 that way if you are not critically ill. If that is all you are prepared for, you will still be far more prepared than most people around you. You can always pool resources. Make yourself the person who knows what is next to do, and you will not only be helping yourself, but you can help many other people as well. There are real stories of true miracles happening in the midst of every disaster. You could perhaps be part of one of them.

        • Brad
          December 17, 2013 at 10:02 pm

          You all been watching zombie movies too much,

      • anne
        November 26, 2012 at 7:06 pm

        I also agree with Rachel Beth.
        the items could be taken from you or the animals contaminated the streams also from fall out you cant rely on the soil for growth. the trees are burnt and will die no more peaches and apples will be there.bartering is the best way, help and you will be helped if not you will be along the way. don’t think you can eat off the land it takes many years for the soil to clean its self in a simple fall out this i learned in school years ago.

        also items can float down a flood so if it gives you a sense of security do so but a knife, and a Bible and your inter strength will find you a way..who is going to kill a person that is carrying nothing??

        personally i do not want to even live in a world that I am afraid to live in and I don’t think God will want us to either.

        Bless you all and keep your heart clean and pure and your faith with get you through. I have been trough a lot and this has never failed me.

        I love you all.

      • patprepper
        January 10, 2015 at 4:34 pm

        This is by far the most relevant post I’ve seen. It all must begin in the mind to work. Everything else follows.

    • Doug
      October 6, 2012 at 5:36 am

      Teresa, I don’t know the specifics on your situation, so I won’t presume to say you aren’t making the best use of your money, but here’s some food for thought, maybe.

      First, in most places I’ve lived there has always been some organization – usually associated with one or more churches – giving away food (Food Bank)– and there’s also Food Stamps (because despite the number of people abusing the system, it’s there for people who need it.) If that’s you, use it.

      Take a box (or even a trash bag — unused, preferably) and set is aside for emergency supplies. Then each time you have the opportunity to shop for food, buy just ONE thing to throw into the box. One trip, buy a can of beans. Next trip, a can of mixed veggies. Next trip, a can of tomato paste. Then some Raman noddles. Each of these will cost less than a dollar, but you just kept yourself alive for several days.

      Every once in a while, make a non-food purchase. A couple of rolls of toilet paper. A box of trash bags (multiple uses, to include waste disposal should the toilets stop flushing.) A bottle of multivitamins. Sure, it might be easier to have money and but cases of MRE’s for your climate-controlled storeroom, but if you can’t, you can’t. You won’t build up a big cache overnight, but over time you’ll be much better prepared than all those people who blow $100 a month on cable TV who trust the stores will always have food they can purchase with their debit cards, and the government will always be there to help them.

      Another thing you can stock up on cheaply is water. A gallon jug filled with tap water can be a lifesaver. Two gallon jugs – even better. Without getting into how to make and keep water safe for drinking, I’ll just say to rotate the stock occasionally. Also, just know that those plastic jugs are disposable. The plastic will break down over time, so rotate those as well.

      Take a good hard look at your expenses. As I said, I don’t know your particular situation, but I do know there are a lot of people who are “poor” who find a way to purchase alcohol and tobacco and cable/satellite television. It is a matter of priorities.

      We can talk all day about which type of cooking oil has the longest shelf life, how much cordage should you carry in your bugout bag, or whether Bic lighters are better than matches, but getting down to the most basic level, to have a can of beans when you’re hungry is better than not having any food when you’re hungry.

      Anyway, hope this helps … best wishes, etc.

      • LAINA
        September 30, 2013 at 8:32 pm


    • Jen Bur
      February 3, 2013 at 12:28 pm

      I am in a similar situation. I have had a loss of job and just pick up odd jobs. But like you, I have access to the internet so my situation could be worse. I have learned a lot during this time. Like, I learned what it is like not to have a dime to buy gas, I have a working car but could not put gas into it. Car won’t go without gas. When I get a paying job, I am going to buy a bike, that way if I am ever in a situation like that again where I cannot buy gas or the car breaks down and I am unable to repair then I will at least be able go further and faster than my feet can take me. I also could not buy new batteries for my clocks in my house, just did not have the money. All my clocks showed the wrong time so I will buy a couple of quality wind up clocks. All this after I get that job I am looking for and I have the money to do so. You can learn from your situation also. Surly you have things that you are doing without and even suffering without and there is a solution that does not take electricity or gas or food* to make it work. Look for those things we all need and see if there are solutions that do not require electricity, or gas or food or other depletable resources and when you are in a better situation then buy those things. Take your bad times as a learning situation. Also in your bad times make as good as decisions as you can financially and do as much as you can with what you have by making do, mending and reusing.
      *An example of something taking food is a horse, a horse will get you where you want to go but you need to feed a horse. Not a bad thing if you have enough pasture that will feed your horse even during a bad drought when the grass is not doing well. But a bike will be better if you do not have that big quality drought proof pasture.

      • dottie
        June 15, 2014 at 3:27 pm

        Jenn Burr, Jenn, you do not have to wait to buy a bike. on trash day, sometimes people throw bikes away. if you are lucky enough to get 2 bikes you can use one for parts. just takes a little time to six one up….maybe paint it too etc. also tag sales could provide you with a wind up clock or anything else you may need…even tools to fix your bike. in time, the universe or God will provide you with what you need..just ask. a garden may also help make ends meet. take care and good luck to you.

    • jessica
      August 4, 2015 at 9:56 pm

      Teresa you can now buy some food items at your local dollar store

  58. JM
    June 8, 2012 at 7:51 am

    You guys seem to think that you can all make it on your own regardless of what happens to people around you. When SHTF I think you will have a rude awakening. Most people live in urban zones, so living off the land is not an option. Urban zones have lots and lots of people with guns too. Those people will go after your stuff. You won’t be able to fend-off all of them. They will keep on coming in hordes because they have families too. Your best bet is to drop your “I’ll go it alone” attitude and coordinate survival with your neighbors as a community. You should make plans so that everybody can pool their resources and defend them without having to flee. Each member in your community will have a different asset/skill that they can bring to the table.

    • JM
      June 8, 2012 at 7:56 am

      After hurricane Wilma, I was low on food but high on beer, and I also had plenty of power from my solar panels, battery banks, and inverters. My neighbors brought their food which I was very happy to store for them in my big fridge. We had barbecues outside everyday. We all pitched-in something and became better-acquainted and stronger as a community. We did much much better as a whole than any one of our families would have done individually.

      • JM
        June 8, 2012 at 8:07 am

        The best way to take care of yourself and your family is to take care of your community. Every-man-for-himself is not a viable survival technique. We are social animals by nature and we need to take care of each other.

  59. June
    June 17, 2012 at 10:28 am

    Those who are rude enough to dismiss another human being’s request based on age, obvioulsy weren’t taught to respect the elderly! I’d hate to be your granny! That said: I store most of my items in a mason jar with an oxygen pack. Every time there is holiday candy on sale for 50% off,like jelly beans, I buy them and put them in a jar for trading. Same thing goes for coffee. One item I have looked into is fish antibotics. I also have multi-vitamins,and OTC medications. You can find a variety of spices at the dollar store. I’ve also got quik clot in my medical emergency bug out bag. If you can’t afford that, try getting a styptic pencil. For those of you on a limited budget, just add an extra “sale” item to your cart each week. Sales on eggs? Coat them in mineral oil. They will last unrefridgerated for 9 mos. It’s not great for a bug out bag, but if you have to hunker down where you live, it’s a good source of protien. Get protien powder too. Remember, you can’t eat gold or clothing. The best investment you can make right now is in non parishable food. The prices keep going up,so it’s a good commodity.

  60. marilyn
    June 17, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    Theresa. I am a 62 yr old woman on my own. Just lost almost everything. I am currently living in a recycled FEMA trailer in an RV Park. You say you can’t start to prepare??? You can!!! For the first time in my life I had to go,once only to a food bank. I picked beans, rice, powdered milk, flour,oatmeal, sugar,oil, canned fish, veggies, fruit. Many things others didn’t want. I hitched a ride to the local library and picked up a couple of books on foraging. Chatting with neighbors, I was able to borrow a fishing pole, dug for worms and have been fishing most days. I planted some of those dry beans, ” borrowed” a potato and it is now planted to make 6 hills. Watermelon, cantaloupe, squash are all in the ground and growing from found/free seed. The local store was throwing out unsold tomato plants and they too are in the ground with some pepper seeds. I have found mushrooms, wild berries, a pecan tree. all sorts of edible wild greens. I have only been where I am for 6 weeks. I don’t have hot water or stove/oven I do have a microwave and barbecue. I have a very functional solar oven. I am well on my way to having a stockpile. I am disabled from an accident 6 months ago. After electricity and lot rental is paid, I have $70/month. It isn’t easy but it is manageable. I have everyone around me saving jars. I ask them to throw their bones and veggie peelings in a bag in their freezer.I collect it once a week for soup. I asked for the ends of celery and lettuce. 6 each are now rooted and growing in my garden. I have borrowed a turkey roaster. I can bake, roast and CAN in it as well as use it to make the soup. You just need to think outside the box. I am eating fairly well….not like I used to but I am not hungry.

    • DDB
      June 27, 2012 at 5:06 pm

      marllyn, I just have to say GOD BLESS YOU and don’t give up

    • Rachael Beth.
      July 17, 2012 at 5:20 pm

      Hi Marilyn. Thank you for sharing your beautiful spirit with us. In reading your circumstance, what came to my mind is the fact that happiness and even health is not based on the material world. It might not be easy for you but you have abundance developing in your life. And your diet, while limited, is actually very healthy. You are the kind of person I treasure. Know that I am remembering you in my prayers and I am proud of your bright shining spirit, beautiful mind, and noble efforts.
      Be blessed.

    • macsam
      September 5, 2012 at 4:48 pm

      Marilyn is the EXCAT kind of person that everyone needs in there SHTF plans. That goes to show that older translates to wiser and experienced!

    • Jo
      October 17, 2012 at 9:17 pm

      good for you Marilyn! :)

      • John
        December 24, 2012 at 9:24 am

        Religion,as the world understands it,is a coitilapmon of lies that seek to blur the lines of individuality+bind people together under a false set of right and wrongs within acceptable society.Religion is ritual+and a venue by which one can live without taking personal responsibility for ones actions+a method to cope with guilt+loneliness.Religion isnt Faith,Christianity isnt legalism,its a relationship with a Person named Jesus+acceptance of his unconditional love independent of others.

    • Darlene
      September 17, 2013 at 8:15 pm

      Marilyn – I’m awestruck – you are truly an inspiration! Thank you for sharing. I will remember you in my prayers. God Bless!

  61. Jan
    July 14, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    I’m preparing our BOB this month and have been stock piling items for them. I’m also going to get 2 gallon zip locks (have used them for years for suitcases) and have “cold weather” and a “hot weather” bag with appropriate clothes so we can easiy grab whatever we need for the time of year. I bought a couple of rolling duffle bags and will put designated items in each such as cooking equipment or survival camping items, if we think we will be gone for more than 3 days. I’m trying to make the BOB a 3-day emergency unit, only. One thing I haven’t seen suggested is to include a supply of thin panty liners (women’s hygiene) for both the male and female BOB. By using a liner and changing it every day, all you need is one or two pairs of underwear and keep them resonably clean and fresh. I’ve done this on long trips and it works great.

  62. teresita
    July 17, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    my mother in law is in her eighties and has taught me how to use animal manure for the vegetable garden. because of her i have learned how to plant crops, how to save water during a rain and also how to trap. The older generation have a lot of wisdom for us young ones.

  63. LEE
    July 19, 2012 at 5:38 pm


  64. I think a survival food cookbook would be a really good seller these days!

  65. Kewpiedoll
    August 16, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    As a Katrina & Gustav survivor (out of electric 9/8days) there will be NO FOOD to purchase. Men w Chain saws had to clear many trees just to get to a main road. Power lines were down everywhere & many across roads for weeks. Gasoline prices were extremely high, cash only, wait in line 4 hours, limited to $50.00 a customer. Do not depend on freezer or refrigerated foods. Towers were down so no communication. Bank vaults in New Orleans were underwater so cash hard to get. It takes so little to take our sweet little world away quickly. You’ll need bullets for snakes, starving abandoned animals, alligators, coyotes(Timber Wolves which r thriving all over America). In Louisiana there are over 600 poisonous plants in the wild. I was bed bound for 6 weeks with Poison Ivy. My advice: the first “hint” of disaster get UR kids & family(if possible) & find a “Hiding Place”…that’s well stocked far far ahead. If u r in an automobile be sure u have something to potty in. My daughter & Grandkids were in the auto on Interstate for around 12 hours with no possibility of exiting & restrooms. Keep a cooler & water in UR vehicle at all times. May God help us all in this sad hour 8(

  66. Jim Dougherty
    August 16, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    You should also include non-prescription medical supplies such as Advil, Aspren, Hydro-cordizone cream with Alo-vera, Rubbing alchol, gauze, splints, Iodine, LOTS of toilet paper and tooth paste/brushes and anything else that not only can be used to help you but can also be traded. If you can, stock up on prescription medical supplies. Don’t count on Uncle Sam. He is too busy trying to screw taxpayers.

  67. Paul
    August 27, 2012 at 7:37 am

    Along with the lighter fluid, stock up on some flints too. Walmart has them in a pack of 6 for forty cents a pack.

  68. Dan
    October 3, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    Cunts! your all cunts! fuck the old lady! fuck frank! Fuck the Mod who thinks youth is not an advantage!

    • Doug
      October 6, 2012 at 5:44 am

      Dan, Judging from your comments, I’m guessing you’re a young whippersnapper. I’m glad to know there’s at least one young person posting here.

      So, where are you located? When the poop hits the fan, I’m gonna want someone young and tender and unable to fight back to be my bitch.

      • Jo
        October 17, 2012 at 9:15 pm

        hahaha…….you said you need someone young and tender to be your bitch! ROTFLMAO

  69. Dan
    October 3, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    also buing a bunch of bic lighters is dumb. buy half as many zippos…Cunts!

    • shud23
      October 5, 2012 at 5:06 am

      Youth is an advantage to an extent. Your strength and cardio is the main advantage that you have. Even though you sit infront of a tv playing video games all day. But unfortunately your minds are not where they need to be. The older generation has the wisdom, experience, and the courage that you young buck retards dont have now days. And they can spell “buying”

  70. rev. dave
    October 5, 2012 at 6:38 am

    Just a comment and question on Bic lighters. In my experience, they don’t work very well, if at all, in cold situations – say in the teens Fahrenheit. I had to keep mine inside my clothing to make it work effectively. (Apparently the cold reduces the pressure inside so too little gas comes out.) So if you’re going to be needing a fire source in cold weather, you may want matches or fire-steels.

    Anybody have similar or contrary experiences?

    • RH
      January 9, 2014 at 8:43 pm

      Rub the lighter in your hands to warm it up and it will work just fine. I have this problem on my morning commute to work when I leave my lighter in the car over night.

  71. scott
    October 5, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    some of u are real Aholes, larie, u can find many lists on the web if u have trouble, write down what u really need during a week and start there, then add a reliable weapon that u can handle, maybe a 20 ga shotgun or a 9mm handgun and maybe find a small country store, just walk through and see what they have on the shelves. Most of these small mom and pop stores carry what people need and not alot of nonessentials and dont count on your cash helping, if the stores are closed your money wont help. And dont forget about heat, if the electric is down u will need an alternate scource

  72. Michael
    October 7, 2012 at 10:25 am

    I always see lighters, matches, flints and lighter fluid mentioned for survival kits. Every kit should always contain a magnifying glass also. OK… It will not work at night or when it is cloudy but the sun always comes back out and when it does you are always guaranteed a fire by simply focusing the suns rays through the lens into some dry grass twigs or paper. In an emergency, a pair of strong eyeglasses will do the job for you too.

  73. Super Ready
    October 7, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    I think we gave ole Frank too much of our time. Lets Get back to giving each other tips on how to stay alive.

  74. Janet
    October 11, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    My parents, and their neighbors, lost their homes a few years ago in the big MS River flood. They were unprepared for such a devastating event. The Red Cross provided them food and temporary shelter. The Red Cross is a wonderful organization, but I am sure they will not be available to offer help in a massive destruction scenario.
    My question is this: My 2 adult children, their spouses and children are planning our long term survival plan. We live in an extremely small town and each have a very small apartment. I am storing our supplies in my 1 bedroom apartment. We would all like to be able to be together when the SHTF, but I am afraid we will all drive each other crazy after a few days. The men are well versed in weapons, hunting abilities and fishing. I am learning to can and hydrate food. I have numerous neighbors who think we are crazy preparing for disaster, but I am sure they will be the first ones knocking at my door for help. Any suggestions on how a family of 6 adults and 2 children can live long term in these conditions?
    God bless you all!

    • Daniel Roberts
      November 17, 2012 at 11:02 pm

      Janet ,
      Yes mam I do have sound advice . DO NOT LET YOR NIEGHBORS KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING . They would be the first people to tell your bussiness and the first people to break down your door to get what you have worked hard to prepare . DO NOT let them know a single thing . As a matter of fact you might want to convince them it was just a fase you were going through . and store your supplies else where . car , deer camp , pop up camper or storage center . As far as preperation I would suggest a pop-up camper they are very easy to tow behind a small car and you can store every thing on the floor of the camper as you travel easy to deal with and you can pull them through the woods . ( Make sure you paint the roof a flat dark earth tone it gathers heat when its cold and helps camuflage it from air .)

  75. jim
    October 12, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    We have a little country store run by some really earthy folks. They offer bulk food ordering online and only charge 10% over what the product cost them to be brought to their store. Then you come pick it up. We have been getting 50lbs of whole wheat berries of just about any kind for $33.00… The co-op trys hard to not have any GMO junk and I have only seen a couple of bags that are 95% organic the rest are certified 100%..

  76. matthew
    October 16, 2012 at 8:39 am

    To those who think our older generations aren’t worth keeping around true they might be physically able to help with manual labor but in other areas definitely. For example cooking childcare and care for the injured and sick and there are lots of other light duty work that needs done. And for the predator people granny with a gun can still take you out.

  77. Jen
    October 17, 2012 at 3:49 am

    I think I saw it on here, but worth repeating….wooden clothes pins. Experience from many trips to the sandbox. Great info on here.

  78. sirloinofbeef
    October 18, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    In reply to Franks comment,

    “Age and treachery will always overcome youth and fitness”

  79. Nick
    November 7, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    Can’t believe that people have not listed a radiation detector. Sure a few hundred dollars is expensive, but this is a once in lifetime investment. After all how do you know it is safe to go out?

    Maybe people are not thinking of the event I am thinking of.

  80. Nick
    November 7, 2012 at 4:56 pm

    And I would add a bicycle, one for every two people.
    The lighter person can sit on the handle bar.

    You could easily travel thirty miles on one and get out of a nuclear radiation zone (once you feel it is safe to go out).

    After all there won’t be usable gas stations around.

  81. Tammy
    November 11, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    Something I find mostley gets missed. Are some of the non food things like reading glasses. I went to the dollar store and picked up several pair. I have them in places that I would realy need them. Most importanr is in the first aide

    • Tammy
      November 11, 2012 at 5:03 pm

      Kits. You cant do first aide or read the first aide book without them. Theres a extra pair in my bugout bag with my maps.

  82. jen
    November 24, 2012 at 3:47 am

    Just a brief comment – I am in my 60s but I have never forgotten how my family (mother sister and brother) told how they had to survive WW 2. My mother was always telling us to make sure we had the basic essentials for survival. I have raised my kids to think like that also. There have been times in my life that I have had to go without electric or running water. One of the biggest things a person should know how to do is start a campfire. Ya gotta know how to do that in order to cook and make sure you have the knowledge of what you can cook over a fire and what you cant. If the time comes, we probably wont have power so learn how to do things that are independent of that.

  83. taylor
    November 26, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    You know I like what Barbara and Anne said they have there minds set….Yes they know what they will need but they also know it can be posined or contaminated.,. After it all settles down a bit then people will become more civilized and I think small camps are the best ways, tents and let the elderly take care of the children ask them for knowledge..I am a American Indian and I am here to tell you the elderly may not can work but there knowledge will help the little village. walking ad hiding is for the scared the animals will be sick and wild whats left, you cant EAT THEM. your deep wild roots and keep water for sure but remember were all one and thats how we will make it. Why do you think we had a tribe? it was a small governed community and the one with more sense was the Chief and it worked on down to the one that just was the watchers the young called braves.. we had to learn but dont count on living off the land if a fall out hits from a nuke you will see skin hanging on bones and I think you all get the point, what it will do to all the other living things. so know like Barbara, and Anne your faith and help is what will get you through i know they knew they had to have water etc. there not ignorant I could tell. but as one said whos gonna kill thats not carrying anything even a Indian did not kill what it didn’t need, watch out for the different cultures of people that will turn on you until they get some sense. some hate the USA even tho there here,
    is sort of like people not believing in the Christ child and puts up a Christmas tree..dont make since does it?

    be mind prepared. it will be a fall out people that will kill us because the earth will never be completely flooded again.

    Look towered the heavens and where the eagles land.

    we are all one but people have put tags on us. You will be deceive fr sure but keep your faith and remember what you know and can do there is a greater and higher power that will be there for us no matter what we go through….sorry I typed this super fast I hope someone sees what I am tiring to say.
    Love and patience will be the only way. don’t make your children fearful to live in this would let them be children. Adulthood comes so very fast for them. time will let you know when to teach them.

    • Padre King
      November 19, 2013 at 10:15 pm

      So good Taylor, I heed your words. Our worst nightmare may arrive tomorrow, or perhaps some weather event may surprise us. With our elders and our children we can survive what is coming. We are the ones who will keep us alive. Those tossing profanities, and put downs have no control over us but we will accept them if they can change. Something they cannot and won’t understand. Which is okay, we wouldn’t want it any other way. Don’t mess with the elders or the children it’s the law. Constitution isn’t broken, its dented and misread but it’s our Constitution and we not only defend it, we abide by it.

  84. Tulsa Nurse
    November 27, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    Vaseline balls are great fuel for starting a fire. Soak some cotton balls in vaseline, and store them in a plastic bag or plastic container. Just one will start a fire very well.

    If you don’t have match or lighter, you can use a 9-volt battery and a bit of fluff from a steel-wool pad. Tear off a bit of steel wool, touch it to both prongs of the battery, and it will ignite.

    Dry laundry soap such as Tide makes an excellent and inexpensive all-purpose cleaner. I say inexpensive, because it’s so concentrated that you can make a large amount of soapy water from just a little bit of soap. You can use it for dishes, cleaning stains off your carpet (during the good times, not during a crisis), or just about anything else you can think of.

    Borax is a good way to kill mold if you get caught in a disaster involving water. It has no bad odor, and lasts longer than chlorine bleach. Chlorine crystals destroy the mold cell, but then the chlorine degrades quickly, and is no longer effective. Borax can be mixed with water in a spray bottle and sprayed on moldy walls. After awhile, you will see some crystals form in the bottle. The borax crystals kill the mold cells. After it dries on the wall, you don’t see it, but if it gets wet again, it reactivates and works to kill mold once more.

  85. irene
    November 28, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    Is there a way to extend shelf life for motrin pills & any other meds.

    • Billthethrill
      December 14, 2012 at 2:27 am

      I read an article on the military doing research on the shelf life on antibiotics, otc medications, and prescriptions medications. The have concluded that MANY medications last years beyond their expiration date. However, there are some expired medications that are dangerous to take. Unfortuently I can remember exactly which one it was, I want to say medications for your heart and circulation are the dangerous ones. I suggest everyone research this matter.

  86. prepared girl
    November 29, 2012 at 9:03 am

    Yes several items here are HEALTHY and worth stocking
    like RAW coconut oil. There is a huge difference about
    SALT, the only one’s to stock up on are HIMALAYAN PINK
    SALT, or, CELTIC SEA SALT because these two contain 80
    valuable natural minerals. “Sodium chloride” used in so
    many unhealthy commercial products, restaurants and at the
    restaurant table are worthless and dead do nothing salt.
    I disagree that grains will last 8 years, they can easily get smelly and rancid that long. I believe
    1 or 2 years is safer.
    Add organic chlorella and spirulina tablets to what
    you rely on, these are healthy nutrients and also help us
    keep our body detoxing impurities. Also add organic seaweeds like kelp powder, nori sheets, and wakame or kombu. Wakame and Kombu can be added to soups and stews. These all add valuable iodine and minerals to our
    ADD top quality essential oils to your emergency
    supplies (like Young Living- brand) these quality concentrated oils are essential for healing and more Such as: lavender, peppermint, sage, oregano, eucalyptus, and many of the blends like thieves. namaste’, prepared girl

  87. December 8, 2012 at 12:15 pm

    Thanks for the list. How about a Quick On the Run list to get at your local Grocery Store…


    • bsharp
      May 22, 2013 at 7:28 pm

      Try koolaid, instant oatmeal/cream of wheat, gelatin, cocoa powder, instant grits, powdered milk. They all just need water and a way to heat.

  88. Kathy
    December 10, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    Hi I have really enyojed reading all the usefull information I also think it is not a bad idea to be prepared. But I also see there are people out there that don’t hesitate to tell someone to go and hang them selves or not consider the feelings of the elderly I love older people. Frank have you ever thought that you will get old to , and scared , one thing I know is we are all heading the same way nobody gets to stay young and live for ever so Frank try to be nicer to people darling, it dose not hurt. People are very sensitive , lonely and scared . Words are the most powerful things to be uttered we should all think before we speak . As for the end of the world on 21:12:12 it might and it might not happen but no harm in being prepaird, no need to call people idiots. We can all make fun of each other and hurt each others feelings , we are all very good at that but we can not control nature and mother earth , she has a mind of her own, and I think it’s time for her to scare the crap out of all of us then maybe people will respect each other again. Frank I hope you don’t die a horribl death but maybe that you learnt a lesson .Knowthat everyone deserves to live , the young , old , our beautyful little animals, WE ARE ALL ONE GOD BLESS ALL OF US

  89. Larry
    December 12, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    This may sound foolish to some, but if you have kids and adults alike you should have some decks of cards (yes, more then one, I would suggest at least three decks) and some board games, also learn to play Cribbage and have a cribbage board or two. For the kids, have some coloring books and crayons. Survival is hard work, but hard work needs relaxing and mental stimulation. Use your imagination.

  90. Valentino
    December 19, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    Don’t forget boric acid – it’s a cheap white powder you can get at the hardware and it kills cockroaches. It will keep the food storeroom roach free.

  91. NPB
    January 12, 2013 at 9:41 am

    After reading the list and comments posted I was wondering if anyone has thought of aquaponics as a dual food source if you we’re able to stay in place. Also not a bad idea to start ahead and utilize now.

  92. bsharp
    May 22, 2013 at 7:07 pm

    I’m a combat veteran @50yrs old. I’ve seen Lebanon, Dessert Storm and other things of mans inhumanity to humanity. I’ve (earned) the Army achievement medal for extraordinary service, the Battle E for excellence in battle and an occational bad dream from seeing friends die. I grew up in the mountains and live in the city. I know survival! Substance (food @water) , shelter and a way to defend it. If you don’t have those three things nothing else really matters. If you don’t have a gun, buy one, You’re Gonna Need It!

  93. Jai
    August 19, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    I found many of the preparedness related postings interesting, thank you for your efforts.
    There are so many possible situations, so it can be difficult to feel prepared at all. What I’ve done is prepare a backpack that is light enough for me to carry but that has food, water, fire and shelter tools and essentials along with “three days” rations. I don’t yet have the skill to really thrive (or survive very long even) if I have to leave my home, but I do know I don’t want to go down not having at least tried as long as I can.
    Now I’m focusing on putting aside extra food, water and supplies that any number of situations could make hard to come by, I think I only saw one post mention something that comes to my mind almost immediately, sprouting seeds. What if its dead of winter and the stores are all empty for whatever reason of produce?
    It is disturbing to consider having to ‘protect’ stored goods, so I haven’t done much planning in that area yet, though when I was learning about outdoor survival a bit, I thought, wouldn’t it be great to know how to use a bow and arrows for hunting? Wouldn’t have a prayer to replace or repair a gun, but making a simple bow is doable. I’m saving money now to take some classes and perhaps join a club so that it can be an activity I enjoy in non-emergency times. And now I consider perhaps that would be a defensive weapon if I found I could bring myself to use it. As I write that last line, I imagine all the responses from people who already know about themselves; that they could kill another person, I haven’t had to face that in my life, so I just can’t be sure.
    This post is of no particular use to others, but I appreciate the forum to take the time to put my own thoughts around preparedness in order.

  94. Marty
    September 5, 2013 at 6:17 pm

    I saw on someone’s list a can of cayenne pepper. Anyone know why?

    Also, lots of candles and oil for oil lamps.. And a few lamps

    • Rosalyn
      November 16, 2013 at 11:43 pm

      Cayenne is very good for stopping bleeding. Internally in a capsule it will stiop internal bleeding and even excessive bruising.
      A good seasoning to vary flavor in food, also. From a 71 1/2 year old that just finished getting my wonters wood and building a cabin for one of my grandsons.

  95. Carol
    September 16, 2013 at 10:26 pm

    Has anybody mentioned stocking up on boards and nails to fortify your home (board up the windows) if you decide to stay in place? It would be easy for those that didn’t prepare to storm the garage in search of food and shelter. Keep your battery powered tools charged and make sure you have more than one hammer.Instead of keeping your BOB in plain view or bins of items in the garage, pantry, or spare room, put them in the attic where it would be harder for an intruder to get to before you could blast them with your shotgun.

  96. marina
    September 23, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    this website is very helpful thank you

  97. The fittest
    October 1, 2013 at 7:55 pm

    Frank has a point…while conveyed poorly….it’s legit. It is difficult for an older person to survive when the world is upside down. 73 means you need more care and will be more of a strain on a survival situation while contributing less (generally not always…there are some 70+ year olds that can run circles around 20 year olds these days.)

    The question is who can afford to bring a 70+ year old into their fold during a sever survival crisis? In a survival situation we all do need to band together but we also can’t afford to slow down because grandma needs to rest or can’t pull her weight. It’s not meant to be rude but its the sad reality that if we are faced with a collapse the elderly will be the first to die.

    • exordie
      October 17, 2013 at 9:05 am

      You’ve made very good points about the elderly in a survival situation. Staying mobile is key to survival. History shows fortified positions often fall unless an extensive supply system is in place. Even then, daily survival depends on burning a lot of energy. The cruel reality is the old and very young become casualties. Mental preparation is also a key element!

  98. The Boss
    October 7, 2013 at 12:33 am

    My 90+ yr old Granny still has her out house, will not let anybody tear it down. Still cans food and know better than most how to survive off the grid. She did it for years when she was young. Her downfall would be her beautiful heart as she is the type that would feed Frank some food instead of dropping his ass at the fence.

  99. Ramen Man
    October 20, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    btw Ramen noodles don’t last 2-5 years I would change that you can get about maybe 6 months the seasoning packets have oil in it and become rancid..

  100. Friends and Family
    November 11, 2013 at 6:10 am

    One of the most important “things” you will need is friends and family. Hungry people will try to invade your house looking for food, it is inevitable. Today, many (if not most) people live in indefensible big-glass-window houses. Shelter in place will be very dangerous unless you are in remote wilderness. The less able you are to defend your house, the sooner you should go to stay with friends or family. Whether you are 16 or 75, the most valuable thing to have are friends and family, because if/when you do need to bug out, a larger group is safer than a smaller group. If you don’t have friends or family, perhaps you should store trade items as a buy-in; gems, silver, gold, and shotgun shells are good.

  101. jim bowie
    November 16, 2013 at 5:42 am

    good to know this stuff coffee last 2-5 years? someone this week said it goes bad! buy green beans coffee, and toast your own with a popcorn poper the rest of stuff ive gotten and put away!

  102. Padre King
    November 19, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    You know reading most of this, not all, I was laughing to hard and my sides couldn’t take it. :-)
    But I had a thought while reading it. How about adding a Old Folks Say page on your site and let’s get some of the elders to comment on what they learned from long ago. I’m sure we all could learn a thing or two, or three from all the instruction. Love the site! After I recover I will read the rest. Thanks!

    • Noelia
      June 19, 2014 at 9:38 pm

      I would love to see a site like that. It would teach us so much. I remember the things my grandma (92yrs old when she die) told me and I hope to never forget them.

  103. michelle
    December 2, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    hi! does without oxygen mean vacuum packed? or just sealed in an airtight bag? thanks!

  104. Tom merrick
    December 24, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    This list sounds like my pantry. (of course I grew up dealing with Hurricanes and Power Outages). Canned meats and vegetables, coffee, tea, ramen, flour, rice, beans (dried), salt, sugar, honey, pasta, these are all things I like to keep stock on in case of emergancies, or those times when the cash is tight.

  105. pj
    January 5, 2014 at 8:42 am

    This video is too darn long. Shorten it up. Get to the point and offer your product.

  106. daddydrifter
    January 9, 2014 at 4:48 pm

    While it was enjoyable reading all the frank bashing going on, I would like to add some reality. When TSHTF, run for the hills. There will be NO community, NO respect for each other, NO warm fuzzies. We kill each other for pennies TODAY, What makes you think anyone will give a crap about ANYONE when times get rough? Unless your a part of a militia, small groups will be VERY easy to pick off, because of their visibility. Unfortunately our society is based on those who have, and those who don’t. But when TSHTF all will be equal, and those who have will be the hunted. Also FEMA will confiscate all large stock piles of food,(yes they know who is stock piling} Obama has passed that into law. FEMA will have the right to ” HOUSE” Americans for their own good. Am I just paranoid? What health insurance were you forced to buy? To make this more pleasant, let me just say, most people won’t see it coming.

  107. adam
    January 20, 2014 at 9:27 pm

    Franks mommy just didn’t love home enough when he was a child therefore resulting in him turning out to be a complete waste of space and piece of shit…i honestly hope that whatever comes of the end times that you are one of the first to endure it first…godspeed to the rest of you and good luck…lord knows we will need it …

  108. Bill,
    January 23, 2014 at 9:56 am

    It’s sad that this whole blog response is about one arrogant idiot’s response, and not much to answer the kind lady with an actual logical question.All I’ve read is negativity and little else, by the way, nice starting list of items needed. I would add an extra set of glasses or a magnifier and prescription drugs if you use those items.

  109. steve
    January 24, 2014 at 12:00 pm

    All of you slamming Frank for his comments really need to grow up and start using your heads instead of speaking out of your asses! The point he was eluding to is VERY SIMPLE, even for you single brain-celled organisms! WTSHTF there will VERY LIKELY be a complete breakdown of civil society which will leave the elderly, the frail, and the weak at a serious disadvantage. YOUY WILL NOT KNOW WHO CAN BE TRUSTED outside of those you already know! Many younger and stronger people that are not prepared will be looking for such targets to take advantage of and will not hesitate to take whatever they want. If you believe otherwise, YOU’RE AN IDIOT and deserve to be eliminated! Frank made no comment as to the moral standing of the lady he was responding to, merely suggesting that her best option would be to seek out others NOW instead of waiting until it’s too late. All of you that believe the the altruistic nature of man will win out in the end are seriously out of touch with reality. In EVERY natural disaster there are those looking for victims to take advantage of, look it up! I’m sure Larie is a very nice lady and I’m equally sure Frank isn’t Satan! He gave an accurate depiction of a likely scenario that ALL OF YOU should be aware of and consider, lest you become a casualty as well!

  110. Jill farough
    January 26, 2014 at 1:19 pm

    We have a farm where can go with a large food cache. I have canned pumpkin and other home canned goods to rely on. What about light and dark corn syrup for sweeteners. It’s cheap

  111. don larson
    January 30, 2014 at 4:23 am

    Has anyone mentioned bleach, or clorine tablets to make a bleach mix ? 1 tablespoon of bleach, to 1 gallon of strained, or filtered water, (if it is coming out of a creak, or surface water of any kind, given it’s not septic, meaning bad, full of bad bacteria, which will smell rotten, or sour), no visible solids. Water can also be boiled to kill most bacteria. If there is no water, and it hasn’t rained, here are some tricks. Go to a healthy, nontoxic tree, with green leaves, and low enough branches, take a large baggy, or a black trash bag, as it absorbs sun light, and creates heat, a large rubberband, or string, and put as much of the end of the green, healthy, leaved branch in the saleable plastic, wrap the string, or rubberband fairly tight at the top, sealing in the leaves. Make sure it is in the sun, and natural perspiration will collect water from the tree’s leaves. This obviously doesn’t collect a lot, but it will help keep you alive !
    Another way, is to dig a hole in moist soil preferably, put a short bowl, or omething simular to collect water, put it in the middle of the hole. Then take a square of celafane, put it flat over the hole, put some of the soil over the edges, keeping flat, once its secure, carefully take your finger, and make a point downward to the center of the collection bowl, a couple of inches, and as the day goes on, he ground will perspire. You’ll see water collecting on the inside of the plastic. This will then drip into the collection bowl. This will be fresh water, as long as you keep dirt out of the bowl, and off the under side of the celafane.
    Good luck.

    • john andreas
      February 28, 2014 at 8:15 pm

      A few drops of clorox 5% or so will purify a gallon of questionable water be carefull .also potassium permangenate crystals,can be found at lowes or a swimming pool supply store,dissolve one at a time until water becomes pink,if purple you need to dilute some.also potassium permangenate when mixed with glycerine will chemically react and make fire even in wet all vets and active,Thank you for your service.

  112. Jose
    February 3, 2014 at 6:03 pm

    Thank for all this information. I am new to prepping. I serve 11 year in the military. And I take seriously my family survivor in case of emergency. Thank for all you guy help and information.

  113. Jill Farough
    February 5, 2014 at 9:31 am

    Good info. Can someone answer my question about corn syrup? I know my parents used it In place of maple syrup. I don’t care about the Frank comments. I just want to survive!

    • Chris
      February 8, 2014 at 11:47 am

      Jill, it may be cheap but it’s crap. The more they learn about high fructose corn syrup, the more they question its safety. Save your money and buy honey (raw is better but be aware that all honey can carry trace amounts of botulism toxin – not enough to hurt most people but can be harmful to infants). Also, the reason people moved away from whole grains (brown rice, whole wheat, etc.) was because the germ, the “healthy” part, has oils that are beneficial but also go rancid quickly and greatly reduce shelf life. This is why commercially white flour and rice took over for a very long time. For short term storage and daily use please use the healthier and more nutritionally complete whole grains. However, for long term storage processed (vs. whole) grains would be your best bet. Hence, make sure you store up some multivitamins in a cool, dry place to combat the deficiencies the consumption of these products can lead to. Btw, my parents grew up in post WWII Europe. They said a Steinway or a Stratavrius sold for a bag of potatoes and armed wealthy farmers ruled. Best of luck to everyone. For an interesting read, check out “The Great Comtroversy”. Interesting view on the U.S.’s role in end time events written in the 1800’s. Be patient as it covers history from a Judeo-Christian (read “Biblical”) perspective. Good piece of Americana.

  114. James Kelly
    February 5, 2014 at 12:51 pm

    I’ve put in a few years in foreign lands fighting for this great country of ours. This is probably the closest I’ll ever come to a “survival situation”. What is the average age of an enlisted Marine? What is the average age of an officer? Braun and brain. War is a young mans game. Rude or polite, reality is reality.

  115. TLC
    February 7, 2014 at 7:27 pm

    1st we know Frank is a fool to a point. Why do I say to a point, most folks over 50 think a weeks worth of food etc. Is just simply normal, we’ve been there done that, don’t really want a repeat. Unless you are urban and really don’t have a clue.
    2nd A repeat of getting a old Boy Scout handbook. Was reading a military survival book that covered less things in less detail.
    3rd Buy block salt from your nearest farm store for preserving food. It’s in block form, takes up little space, and cheap.
    4th Google Dakin’s Solution for a wound care, cheap and every effective.
    5th and final rant get anything fully manual you can that needs no power or batteries. Power is still new tech for humans, we’ve dealt without for far longer than with it. Just my 2 cents worth.

  116. teresa darlene
    February 8, 2014 at 7:52 am

    i take empty beer cans with the screw on air tight lids and fill them with oatmeal and grits pack them real tight then close them up..not sure how long they will last but ill find out later

  117. Elise
    February 10, 2014 at 4:19 pm

    Great list. We were so relieved to have canned tuna in the house (along with some leftover bread) when our electricity went out. Really a great way to have a nice meal with no cooking or warming up of any sort.

  118. ebear
    March 2, 2014 at 12:29 am

    What about beef jerky

  119. Army11B
    March 5, 2014 at 3:30 am

    For the flammable/explosive items such as lighter fluid and Bic lighters, I would recommend getting a few surplus ammo cans. Keep those items in the ammo cans to reduce the risk of fire. The added bonus for the Bic lighters is longevity. Disposable butane lighters are prone to losing their butane over time because of changes in the atmospheric pressure. If you keep them in an air tight container, you eliminate those changes.

  120. Bill
    March 5, 2014 at 6:10 am

    You should only buy things that you would normally eat. It’s hard enough dealing with the stress of survival and have to eat something that you might not like.

  121. JoAnne Breaux
    March 15, 2014 at 11:53 am

    I/m 71 and have raised my kids on how to survive. My youngest grandson stayed with me for 4 years. As soon as he could go for a walk in the woods we played I spy! “I spy a red mushroom and on and on to leaves and bark. Whats edible, how to forage. My dtrs all keep 6 to 12 mo food supp;y. They have chickens, Can their food and have emergency routes all planned ahead. I live in the mountains of VA and my grandson was brought to see me. He jumped out of the van started naming all the plants and then jumped up and down when he spotted the fig tree(he loves figs, 1 for the bag and 1 for me! that is his motto My dtr (the biologist) called him over and demanded how he knew all that ! He said “just look at the leaves mom! its easy. Made my month ,lol .My point is do what you can to teach your kids, how to garden, how to can the food, How and when to hide how to make simple snares and traps. Not all grandmas sit and knit! Tho I do that also. Its OK Frank, your grandma will happily pass on some of her knowledge. Hope she is there for you ; )

    • Noelia
      June 19, 2014 at 9:48 pm

      I LOVE YOU JoAnne Breaux !!!!!

  122. James
    March 23, 2014 at 12:37 pm

    I consider myself to be one of the lucky ones. My parents were raised on the farm during the depression. All they had was food on the table, a roof over their heads and lots of hard work on the farm. You talk about a wealth of knowlege on survival. I was raised in the city, but my parents taught all of us kids the importance of making do with what you had. My papa has since past, but mom is still kicking at 84. I can garden, preserve meat, hunt, fish, home can, build things, fabricate tools and make my own soap. Times will be especially hard on older folks and children, but my family honors our elders with respect and pride for what they have accomplished. My wife and I come from rather large and diverse families. My thought on survival during difficult times is to keep the family network tight and if you have no family to depend on, form a group of close friends and neighbors for support. This way, even if you are unable to secure necessary survival items in your stash, as a collective group, your chances are much better. Yes, I know there are some people that will try and do terrible things during stressful situations, but I still believe there are good people out there whose moral values will still be retained. All I can say to you “takers” out there is don’t show up at our doorstep because you will get more than you bargained for.

  123. donna
    March 29, 2014 at 4:14 pm

    hey , I just browsed some of your posts so I do not know if this was mentioned or not. High carb / fiber is a given for any long term survival list . Keep in mind that many of these foods can be constipating especially if you don’t have fresh fruits and veggies to keep you regular …. constipation can not only be uncomfortable but life threatening if it goes on long enough. Having said that , several bags of Epson salt can be a life saver . It not only works for moving your intestinal track along but good for sprains and fantastic for your garden . I recommend glycerine suppositories for children.
    just me 2 cents
    peace , Donna

  124. Mr. Green
    March 30, 2014 at 2:25 pm

    Enjoyable convo all around. Young and Old. I am one year and two months serving in the Peace Corps in Africa. One year left at age 25. I must say all foods above are in my pantry. No running water or electricity. Problems faced include threat of malaria, giardia, hiv, lack of clean water, 120° heat, spiders snakes rabid dogs scorpians crocs and hippos. I must say the big problem is food security. Any pointers on another meal to add to diet that can be bought at the grocery chain store in city to enhance my diet? Thanks Bobby

  125. Miss Sherry
    May 31, 2014 at 10:52 pm

    These are great tips!! I’m slowly building my store stock supplies but decided to start growing edible multi use plants as well. Aloe of course , fruit trees but my favorite is the Moringa tree. It grows very fast! You can do everything from purifying dirty water to eating the leaves raw! Google it to see all the benefits:) If shtf just think how nice it would be to go pick some nutritional and protein packed leaves off your tree for dinner if someone stole your can goods.

  126. Magpie Prepper
    June 17, 2014 at 7:47 am

    Wow.. of all this, I can’t believe the Frank guy got over 2 years of replies.

  127. Christine
    June 23, 2014 at 6:42 pm

    We have been prepping for nearly two years. We have found some awesome tight sealing containers with screw on tops at the dollar store. They come in several different sizes. Most pastas and rice come in cardboard boxes, which are not water proof. We put all of our pasta and rice into the containers, so not only are they sealed from air, but also water. We have also been stocking up on medical supplies, toiletries, and paper products. Prepping is the cheapest thing in the world, but even $10 a week can go a long way, especially if you know what you need to stock pile. Peace to all and happy prepping :)

    • Ray
      November 29, 2014 at 6:24 pm

      christine, I do the same thing. I put rice or pasta in canning jars, I put the jars in a plastic bucket with sealable lid and place them in my craw space under the house. However I do add a teaspoon (pint) or tablespoon (quart) of 100 per cent FOOD GRADE diatomaceous earth to the food, seal and gently shake. The food grade diatomaceous earth is edible and will kill any tiny bugs that may develop in the food.
      I think it will last a lot longer this way

  128. Christine
    June 23, 2014 at 6:45 pm

    Oh, and one other thing…flours and sugars seal up nicely in these containers as well. We are actually considering storing matches, string, and other non-water loving items in them too. Carry on…

  129. One of GOD's children
    June 29, 2014 at 12:15 pm

    In addition to the basic food stuff, flour, honey, rice, beans, ect. I strongly urge you to add canned powdered eggs to your survival lists, and some form of cake mix or some treat to combat the “privation depression” most will suffer from due to the psych. impact of survival after an event.

  130. Enter your name...
    July 9, 2014 at 6:43 am

    My suggestion for serious minded people who want to survive is simply this….KEEP YOUR POWDER DRY…those
    that haven’t planned for any disaster will be coming for those who thought ahead. Hunger does strange things to people and protecting what’s yours is an important part of staying alive.

  131. Gwylfai Davies
    July 27, 2014 at 1:44 am

    Great info, but has me thinking why? have eaten a tin of tuna 12 years old no problem four tins in all plus a two tins of corn-beef twenty years old no problem perhaps the dates on the can’s can be extended.

  132. karla
    August 7, 2014 at 11:53 am

    Im 32 grew up in southern Arkansas fishing and hunting and survival was a way of life. I like to think people who grow up the way I have do have a slighter upper hand in survival senarios but the truth of the matter is that none of us truley knows what the senerio will be. When you think of the scope of things now there is everything from nuclear, bio, financial or social unrest. A million scenarios for a million situations. That having been said I stay to primary servival items that work for any situation. 1. Food, 2. Water, 3. Mobile shelter, 4. extra clothing, 5. Ability to make fire, 6. Knowledge of natural medical info (plants ext., 7. First aid kit. There are other things but those aside from a route plane and Point of meet up are primary for servival. Don’t forget items for water purification and a form ofdefence.

    • karla
      August 7, 2014 at 11:57 am

      Antibiotics if you can get a hold of them also but that at least where I am is hard to do.

  133. Ken
    August 31, 2014 at 9:33 am

    Who would you save?? A loud mouth young punk that knows it all or someone in there 60s, 70s or 80s??? Sorry punk, your dead!!

  134. Jan
    September 3, 2014 at 10:45 pm

    Thanks to all for the great advice.

    I’m a 55 year old divorced woman living on a modest income. Here’s something I did a while back that really helped with the prepping.

    I made the decision to turn off the power for 24 hours (no cheating). It went a long way in figuring out what I really needed to be self-sufficient. I added things to my list as the day went by.

    Simple things like using a clothes line, finding alternate ways to cook food. There is water in your hot water tank enough to keep you alive for a few days at least.

    I re-organized the household more efficiently. Found an old a wind-up clock in the attic. Tools I would need. Solar garden lights to brighten up the evening hours.

    Found a decent wood stove at an auction, keeps the house warm when the power goes off and it’s great to cook with as well.

    It’s truly amazing the stuff we all take for granted! After the 24 hours had gone by, I had my list of essentials.

    I’ve also done some renovations to make the house more secure.

    Herbs and spices can easily grow on a window sill. Start gardening now, don’t wait until your in ‘panic-mode’ to learn the skills you will need. Even a small patio can hold a few containers of tomatoes.

    Eggs can keep for at least 6 months if you coat them with mineral oil.

    Bottom line is this – don’t wait for the stuff to hit the fan, you’ll be too upset to think straight.
    Look around your house/apartment and figure out what your needs really are.

    All the best,

  135. Candy
    September 14, 2014 at 4:45 pm

    I would add, besides alcohol (for multiple purposes) tobacco for trade. Specifically rolling papers & loose tobacco (cheaper & easier to store). Have you ever seen someone “jonsing” for a puff?

  136. Taylor
    September 14, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    You guys argue over the stupidest shit.
    Mrs. Hall- water and whatever canned good last the longest. Follow the list from above. Oh and get a water purifier too.
    Frank: we all agree you are an arseholio.
    The 64 year old: computers came out in the 1980’s. Where were you? On vacation apparently.
    The rest of you stop arguing and start stocking damn it. Stock stock stock damn it. Stock til your little hearts can’t stock any more. Stock till the cows come home. Stock til the end of days. Stock STOCK STOCK you little warriors.

  137. obx
    September 29, 2014 at 9:30 am

    The information on flour storage concerns me. Morman storage ctrs, flour manufactures such as robin hood or king arthur and others set the maximum storage for white flours at 18 mths mac with or without vaccuum sealing or oxygen obsorber treatments. Also whole wheat flours have almost no long-term storage capacity. They turn rancid very fast. Many you find on grocery shelves are already rancid at purchase. I have ground whole wheat for 20 years and my experience is the same as the flour manufacturers. Just an FYI so people don’t waste money storaging flour long term.

  138. Ed
    October 3, 2014 at 7:00 am

    Thanks for the list.

    Makes me feel better about the choices I made a few years ago vacuum packing and storing emergency supplies, and gives me more ideas to supplement my stocks.

  139. YeahPete
    October 9, 2014 at 11:56 am

    No mention of bleach for purification of water? You can drink practically any water by first purifying it with bleach 8-16 drops per gallon.

  140. Steve
    October 16, 2014 at 10:19 am

    TP is a bulky think to carry. Baby wipes will do the job and aren’t as bulky. If they were good enough for my little guys bottom, they are good enough for mine!

  141. Shawna
    October 18, 2014 at 2:06 pm

    I’m surprised to hear no mention of nuts! They don’t go rancid very quickly if they’re not roasted, and they have fat, protein, and carbs, depending on the variety, not to mention TONS of vitamins. They’re also incredibly calorie-dense. Buy bulk raw, seal them in airtight containers and keep them in the extra room in your fridge until d-day. I don’t recommend the freezer, since they’ll eventually frostbite unless you have a real vacuum pack. Some nuts are naturally more stable in warmer climates than others; do some research. If you’re afraid you’ll get bored with nuts, take a look at a vegan raw recipe book, and you’ll learn all sorts of tricks for making nuts taste like “normal” food. I recommend “Ani’s Raw Food Kitchen.” I’ve practically lived off them for weeks at a time, with ample fruits, veggies, salt, and herbs mixed in.

    For prepping freshly grown foods, canning is great if you have fuel, time, jars, water, etc. However, a solar dehydrator will be much more useful in emergency situations.

    • Robert
      November 4, 2014 at 9:15 am

      That is a good point.

  142. Darlene
    October 20, 2014 at 1:44 am

    What about soybeans? How long can organic, non GMO soybeans be stored?

  143. Robert
    November 4, 2014 at 9:11 am

    One thing I think has been overlooked in emergency preparedness for survival is to also have a device to filter the air you breath. We do live in some dangerous times.

  144. carolyn
    November 12, 2014 at 7:38 pm

    I am saying that this is not right what is going on. The good people are suffering and will suffer more and all these bad people are getting away with doing bad things.
    Maybe it is time for the states to govern themselves then there would be no federal government. Its time to start over

  145. sid
    January 21, 2015 at 5:14 pm

    It dose not matter if you’re old young or well prepared, shit will be very hard out there and all that separates the living from the dead could be a little luck although it would be very wise to augment it with some survival skills and supplies

  146. Tish
    March 6, 2015 at 2:24 pm

    i read through some of the comments and all I can say is we are in a boat load of trouble if or when we ever need to use our survival skills. You are turning on each other now, and things are still good. Oh boy!

  147. squinty
    March 8, 2015 at 4:57 am

    Also important to have a sturdy hand turned grinder for turning hard grains into flour.

  148. Troy's Girl
    March 22, 2015 at 2:14 am

    My thoughts are if you are lucky enough to have a bug out location, stock it well. One of the best gifts hubby ever bought me was a vacuum sealer. Everything gets sealed. When buying seed, vacuum seal it so it will last longer, label the packages so you know exactly what’s in each one. Stock up also on seed starting materials (peat pots, ect.). ALSO, while stocking your bug out location, make a small stock pile in your residence, in case you get stuck there and can’t get out right away. So many great tips on this site. One last thing, I don’t recall seeing anyone mention, small portable solar units (we bought one a couple of years ago and use it camping), small portable generators, or chainsaws. We go “primitive” camping every summer for a week just to work on our skills. Every year we find more things we don’t need, because we haven’t used them.(example only needed 1 cast iron skillet, not 3.) It helps keep us sharp. Everyone keep posting the great ideas, they’re very helpful.

    • knowshitsurelock
      August 28, 2016 at 3:37 am

      using a chainsaw is not going ‘primitive’maybe using an axe and a bow saw and that’s still not ‘primitive’ but a lot closer to a stone axe!

      I suggest you keep the chainsaw but also stock up on bow saw and replacement blades… a chainsaw can be heard for mile not so w/ a bow saw…noise dicipline will be important too!

  149. af
    April 21, 2015 at 9:10 am

    How to increase the shelf life of food bar?

  150. Mimi
    April 26, 2015 at 1:31 pm

    I like your lists but your shelf life times are wrong on many of the foods. The shelf for much of these foods are much longer.

  151. ready jenebene
    May 22, 2015 at 3:56 pm

    great simple list. I didn’t think of some things you mention. Yes, simple if running away – you’ll meet a lot of people doing the same if not stealing from you. Seniors – care about them, families – care about them, neighbors, care about them…good group – find one. Best person to know – JESUS – all others may desert you. Got your little Bible? hope you know about HIM – the only one who sticks with you through it all. All the suggestions are good but talk it out with some – what’s best for YOU and those you care about. Neighborhood plan – you stock this, I’ll stock that…may work for some. All need to stock a variety of things, who knows how much – suggestions heard – if you can – 6 months. That may be able to stretch some. Thanks for all the ideas-grocery store? have lots of peanutbutter, canned items, dry items, and garden, chickens turkey, goats-your own milk source, save things to start fire for heat,cooking,sterilizing. May you all survive – if so, a new entry – how did you fare?…

  152. Florence
    June 2, 2015 at 6:01 pm

    I got on this site for help in prepping and I am shocked at the comments. This bashing each other is not helpful. Could you all try to stick to the intentions of the site and keep your comments to what you actually know to be fact about any given subject? It would really be appreciated. thank you.

  153. Blaine
    June 4, 2015 at 9:06 pm

    Forget the peroxide, H2O2.. yes, one more oxygen atom than water, with very little age, 1 month and or joggleing, light etc. you have a bottle of water.It does not keep, and if You get it on sale at wallyworld it is outdated and already flat, ever notice how it doesn’t foam, forget buying it on the internet as it is just bottled water. White Rice, Pasta and canned meat and Vegatables,Beans,Coffee spaghetti sauce in Glass Jars! Canned Fruit, Sugar, Salt and Propane canisters and one of those mechanical spark producers welders use as well as propane cook stove, heater will be good food supplies. Honey can heal wounds and kill athletes foot and other fungi. not fungi or bacteria grow in honey.. I could go on but you get the idea, white rice and pasta will keep for 30 years if stored propperly.

  154. Debra
    June 8, 2015 at 5:59 pm

    The very reason we may end up using foods with long shelf lives is the attitudes our young people have…they have lost compassion..morals and values..they care about nothing except their selves and whats in it for them.
    When crap hits the fan…many of them will not survive because they don’t know how to …life isn’t a video game…if you make a mistake when you depend on mother nature she does not forgive…and your character doesn’t respawn !!!
    Wisdom is absent in most young now a days…and the ways of doing things that were done in the “old days” are unknown to them…one day these young fools will be begging for the secrets that the old ones know.

  155. Debra
    June 8, 2015 at 6:08 pm

    I am so glad that my Grandmother taught me skills that most young ladies turn their noses up at today. She taught me how to crochet, knit, embroider and sew. She also taught me about baking. Throughout my life i have picked up many good things from the to make bread from scratch…how to cook…how to to find herbs and edibles in the wild…how to build shelters to survive the elements and above all else they taught me about God which i am eternally thankful for.

  156. Nishka Gray
    July 24, 2015 at 3:38 am

    Ok, but what about long long term. Let’s say 100 years. If tin and aluminum cans take about 50-100 years to biodegrade, is it safe to assume that 102 year-old can of food (assuming it’s free of clostridium botulinum bacteria) is safe? What really gets to me is that we don’t know the shelf life or efficacy of most medications. Or at least ordinary people like me don’t, considering I have no .gov or .mil account to access SLEP. I can’t imagine the shelf life of penicillin can be more than 10 years tops, plus, with a little skill and the right chemicals it can be made, but what about pain killers? Assuming you have access to plants and know how to use them, you’re still looking at some really mild pain relief options. Feverfew won’t help you if you’re damn leg is broken. I would imagine that properly stored and sealed morphine has a longer shelf life than any of us can imagine, but I have no way to test it or prove it.

  157. B from CA
    August 16, 2015 at 6:36 am

    When you talk centuries or even a single century, your survival doesn’t come from stored food; except perhaps: salt, sugar, and honey. Canned foods, forget it! Seeds kept in a frozen vault, maybe. Survival will be a matter of skills passed from one generation to the next. As it is now. As it has been since time immemorial.

  158. Been
    September 1, 2015 at 8:57 am

    Wow! I clicked on this site and low and behold more petty bickering. Where’s the good stuff?

    The list of items seems to be very good. I had not thought about corn meal, but if you want fried foods ( and I’m sure they will be very good ) like fish and or anything else that you can get that you might like to fry in a skillet, you might want some corn meal. As for the lessons in spelling and punctuation and hate mongering and such. One might also want a few pens, pencils and paper so document and keep track or notes. I’m only 54 but I hope to make it to 90 some day. The 73 year old lady spoken about , I am very proud of her for even thinking about future survival ! Good for you ?
    Don’t forget eye glasses or reading glasses, as I am having a very difficult time seeing to type this. As for you younger crowd, if you think older people will get in your way, my 30 year o,d told me a few weeks ago, working with me for a day was like months learning in school. Take care of our elderly, they will remember the wagon days drawn by horse. When the city dwellers leave the city in search of survival, these older more intelligent people will be real sources of survival Information.

    I’m off to stock up on corn meal! Be kind to your neighbor if he will allow it!
    Been out ! P.S I’m not going to proof read this for errors !

  159. Chance
    November 23, 2015 at 12:15 pm

    I have reviewed the food list and compared the expirations with what I currently have in my home. Can anyone comment on why the great disparity? For instance, my freshly bought White Flour shows about a 1 year expiration and my Pasta shows 3 years. Why does this site say 5 – 8 years?

    • Brittney
      December 20, 2015 at 10:39 pm

      Hi Chance,
      It’s because of how food producers are estimating food will be stored. If left just in the paper sack flour absorbs moisture and odors and bugs easily get in it within a year. Stored in an airtight container, like mason jars or plastic buckets with a good seal, it lasts for years.

  160. Brittney
    December 20, 2015 at 10:36 pm

    What would you recommend for a milk back-up? We’ve tried 2 brands of powdered milk & 2 brands of evaporated milk. We followed the directions for rehydrating & for best taste, but they’re awful. Me and my husband don’t care as we just add them when baking/cooking but our 1 y/o won’t drink them.

    • John Delphia 3rd
      February 24, 2016 at 7:11 pm

      I’ve tried the following; adding a bit of sugar and butter, adding some coffee creamer powder as well. Adding a drop or two of oil/butter to Ramen, soups, etc enhances taste because it carries a lot of the food’s flavors to the tongue, which are there but hidden. By the way, has anyone tried reconstituting butter powder with coconut oil?

    • John Delphia 3rd
      February 24, 2016 at 7:16 pm

      I realised that by accident when eating a mug of Ramen and canned tuna with the same spork, wondering why the ramen all of a sudden had flavors to it!

  161. Jan Motier Vessell
    March 20, 2016 at 7:49 am

    First, I live about 40 miles from Ferguson, MO. so I appreciate it when martial law is put in place. I do want to stay alive and keep the bad guys confined at least to Ferguson. Otherwise I live in a rural area and began prepping seriously about 3 months ago. I’m a female retired deputy and have guns. Yes, I’ve always liked guns and appreciate their value. I’ve secured a food supply for maybe 2-3 months and our well is in our basement. Water not too much of a problem. However, collecting all the non-food items does take a list. Also putting together a good ‘first aid kit’ takes thought.Don’t put off thinking about all the non-food items you will need. I have put my inventory on my computer so it is easy to add items. You might think about these catagories to start. 11. Light & Heat, 222. Housewares, 3.Water 4. Disposable house wares 5. House cleaning & hygene 6.Sleeping & Towels, rags 7. Misc. like fishing gear, veg seeds, crayolas, coloring books (bordom)puzzles, books. 8. Food 9. Condiments 10. Soup 11.Dried beans, rice , couscous 12. Pasta, sauce 13. Meat, canned, dried (jerky) 14. Juice, beverages 15.Fruit 16. Vegetables 17. Misc. food snacks ie peanut butter, jelly, crackers………so, a lot to think about, more than you probably originally thought. Yes, if you plan to “bug in” rather than “bug out”, there is alot already in your house you can collect. Collecting it and putting all your prep in 1 area is a big job. So I started by reading all the suggested “lists’ other preppers offered to us. Used some of them, made my own shopping lists. Shopped The Dollar Tree (the best local dollar store) because there everything really is a dollar. Shopped Sam’s Club, then local Shop n Save. Hit junk and antique stores (found an old kerosene floor heater) and WalMart has the best price for a liter of kerosene (lamp or heater oil)$6.00+ per liter. So, start collecting, ie prepping.

  162. LB
    April 5, 2016 at 8:06 am

    Please be careful about stocking up on and eating canned tuna fish. It is no longer recommended since it contains high levels of mercury. Eating it occasionally, say once a month or so, shouldn’t be too dangerous, but more often than that could be – especially for children and pregnant women.

  163. preppers supply list
    April 27, 2016 at 1:39 am

    As you know the earth has suffered several natural disasters over the last years,
    to improve your chances of survival, and protect your family against these events. You have to be prepared a survival supply list .By providing a survival list with some basic supplies you can yourself and your family will have a better chance to survive on your own after a catastrophic event.
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  164. Kay
    July 4, 2016 at 12:53 am

    Stock up on lots of good quality vitamin C (non-GMO and not made in China), Oil of oregano is a great antibiotic and a carrier oil to calm the burn from the oregano oil. Olive oil or coconut oil make good carrier oils, other essential oils for illnesses, zinc tablets, food grade activated charcoal. If you are not aware of the many wonder things charcoal can do you need to check it out. It healed my brown recluse spider bite, didn’t need a doctor. And from what I have heard charcoal is good for radiation poisoning. How about a sewing kit? Rolls of duct tape and rolls of plastic are always good items to have around. Get a colloidal silver generator, you could make up batches of this to barter.
    Currently I have city water and I’m hoping someone can recommend a good method for getting drinking water. I’d like to collect rain for drinking but I don’t trust rain because of what is being sprayed in the atmosphere. I can’t afford to have a well drilled. Any suggestions?

  165. debbie thomas
    September 11, 2016 at 10:34 pm

    I am 54 and would love to be able to talk to my mother and my grandparents about how they done things during the depression and how they handled hard times, but i don’t have that luxury, My older family have all pasted

  166. Judy Eddleman
    September 15, 2016 at 5:24 am

    Can you tell me where to find out how I could manage to save bees if everything goes awry. Is it possible indoors? Etc…

    • CarmenO
      October 24, 2016 at 3:32 am

      Depends on what you mean by indoors. Honey bees have been know to build nests in attics. They live in large groups so they can keep warm when it’s cold and cool when it’s hot, so yes. I actually have a certified (by the Wildlife Federation) wildlife habitat with the focus of saving the wild bees. Ten years ago when I moved here, I could only identify two bumble bees (I can tell them apart). Now there are hundreds of wild bees and the Great Black wasps (also pollinators). Where I live it gets to 45 degrees below zero, so you can see they do well on their own. 70% of all the 20,000 species of wild bees nest under ground. You can tell bumble bee nests by paying attention to the ground, if you see grass pressed down in circles, those are nest. The issue is providing them plenty of food during the warmer season so they can store for later. I don’t do lawn, those are useless for bees and other beneficial insects. They just need lots of native flowering plants and trees. Most of the pollinating is done by the wild bees, not the honey bees, which are native to Europe.

  167. Jean Brunken
    October 18, 2016 at 12:46 pm

    Don’t forget your Bible. It tells you how to survive anything!

  168. Cambook
    November 10, 2016 at 9:08 pm

    I would definitely add non-scented chlorine bleach to this list. It can be used to purify water and as a disinfectant. To disinfect 1 quart of clear water, add 2 drops of bleach and wait 30 minutes.

  169. Tylee E
    February 18, 2017 at 8:02 pm

    Don’t forget vinegar! You can cook and clean with it, wash laundry, cure colds, etc!

  170. Tylee E.
    February 18, 2017 at 8:05 pm

    White vinegar can be used to cook, preserve, clean and as medicine. Add that too! Also, some of the foods you mentioned are short term foods that should be used and rotated regularly. Long term dried, dehydrated, and freeze dried foods are best to store in massive quantities. You should rotate food and water every 3-5 years too. Only keep one years supply on hand though. Any more and it will be overkill on space, time and budget. Keep in mind that water can also go bad!!

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