Florida Women being Evicted from Home for Living Off the Grid

A woman from Cape Coral, Florida is being forced out of her home after local code enforcement teams found out she was “living off the grid.”

Robin Speronis' Off Grid Home

The women, Robin Speronis, told her story to WFTX-TV who featured her lifestyle on the local news. The day after her story aired, where they talked about her “Off Grid” lifestyle, the City of Cape Coral sent code enforcement officers to post “notice to vacate” signs on her property.

Speronsis, a widow who lives in the home by herself, is now facing eviction because she chooses to live without being hooked into the grid. She told WFTX-TV, “Where is the justice? Why did they choose me,” she asks. “…because I was exercising my First Amendment rights of free speech in discussing living off the grid.”

The GridThis isn’t the first time we’ve featured this type of story. In fact, we’ve covered countless instances where people have been forcibly removed from their land, some even arrested, because they choose to live a more self-reliant lifestyle.

From Eustace Conway, who was forced to stop using his land after 26 years of running a nature school on it, to the heartbreaking story of Andrew Wordes, who took his life after code enforcement teams seized his home, to the Off-Griders in California who were threatened with arrest and forced back on to the grid, these stories are becoming far to common.

Like many of the stories we’ve covered over the last couple of years, I believe this case is just another example of how the government targets people who live a self-sufficient lifestyle. From using local zoning boards to literally zone people into submission, to the federal government’s attempts to redefine the term “waters of the United States”, so they can take control of private property, there seems to be an all-out assault on land ownership and the self-reliant lifestyle.


  1. teri
    December 16, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    First of all if you own the propery noone should be able to tell you how to live on it. If that was my situation they would have one helluva fight on their hands!!!!!!!! I’ll give them a response…an armed one. The government needs to back up and get out of our personal lives.

    • ELLYN
      December 16, 2013 at 12:58 pm

      I AGREE TERI, but unfortunately the one with the most money wins!

      • Max
        December 16, 2013 at 2:57 pm

        Money, power, and guns all to keep us in line to keep us productive for their benefit giving us……… just………… enough…….. to…….. accept………. what…… they…….. give……….. us.

      • Adam
        March 13, 2014 at 7:14 pm

        Since when does the gov have money? :)

        • Cory
          March 21, 2014 at 12:26 pm

          Since they took it all from us under the guise of taxes.

    • sw
      December 16, 2013 at 3:58 pm

      The government is getting way to invasive in our personal lives. They can take your private property because they have far more money than the average individual, they claim the land and you have to fight to get it back, just ask all those who lost their homes in Arlington due to imminent domain that was enforced by the city fathers.

    • Betty
      December 16, 2013 at 6:44 pm

      Do any of us really own our property? Just see what happens if property taxes aren’t paid every year.

      • Miss Beck
        December 16, 2013 at 11:35 pm

        Exactly Betty! Everyone pays federal “rent” every year. No one owns anything. Don’t pay property taxes they will take your house, don’t pay car taxes your car will be impounded. You own NOTHING.

      • valerie brooks
        January 10, 2014 at 4:10 pm

        Nobody should ever have to pay taxes on land, everybody should be given their land from birth to death….yours, end of telling people they can’t live on their land as they want to, but but but….I wouldn’t want them to build a rocket on it or block water rights of other’s…people have problems to solve, but taxes is only working to make the governments steal and live high on the hog.

        • Ray
          June 29, 2016 at 4:27 pm

          agreed. Your land should belong to you with no taxes what so ever.

      • evone
        February 6, 2014 at 4:21 am

        How did taxing ones land after we have long paid for it ever occur? If something is bought and paid for it should be ours and never have to pay another tax ever. When the agreements are all signed the taxes are added so we are being retaxed over and over again isn’t that illegal?

        • a101988
          April 14, 2014 at 4:19 pm


    • Robert
      December 16, 2013 at 9:37 pm

      Yea right. If you think you own property at all, you are a fool. If they can tax it, they really own it.

      • Wayne
        June 2, 2015 at 1:28 pm

        So, we should be able to move onto public lands and live there for free as we are the public! We already own those lands.

    • Chris
      December 17, 2013 at 2:16 am

      Stop paying your taxes and see if it is truly your property. It is a farse that the government allows us to live on “our” land when they can take it away when they chose.

    • The best advice I can give is not to go to public with how we live off grid. With todays media and socialistic control you just keep out of the lime light.
      We have found it good to share how we do it but do not allow any news media or public funded entities to get any more information other than what they can read on our website or see on our Youtube channel. We NEVER give them our location.
      Everyone we have seen get interviewed by mainstream media ends up in a world of problems shortly afterward. If you try and beat the system and you are successful they will make an example out of you to prove to others they still can control the normal person and force them to live like normal (well they call it normal) people. Love the fact she went off grid hate the fact it went public and now she will have a living hell to fight to remain self sufficient and live efficiently. God Bless and she is in my prayers.

      • Terri
        December 18, 2013 at 12:17 am

        I know the first assumption is to blame the socialists however in this instance it’s not the case.
        What your seeing is the long reaching arm and power of the industries which produce electricity, etc.

        Cases such as this are when we need to realize the far reaching effects of the corruption involved.
        Remember, the EPA is bound to be thrilled if you responsibly live off the grid. Your carbon footprint is far smaller.
        Imagine the number of uber powerful large ultra wealthy corporations which would go belly up if a large percentage of the population decided to go it alone without stuffing their pockets.

        • Hill billy
          December 21, 2013 at 6:01 pm

          I’ve never been accused of being one of the people who think solar power is an answer for everything, as it is presently impractical for large users like factories, but I can forsee new neighborhoods not being connected to the electrical grid. For residential applications, some technical hurdles remain (we still use the same air conditioner invented by Mr. Carrier), but these are not insurmountable.

      • Meehlticket@gmail.com
        March 2, 2015 at 8:18 am

        Wise words. I guess the least amount of noise, the least commotion, the least interaction is best. If one is living in a metro area, and if the utilities seem to demand participation, a token minimal payment is the cost of peace. Anything to stay under the radar.
        I suspect, also, that having your name on the “register” even if for a minimal utilities payment, is, again, the cost of peace.
        But if your goal is to live you life incognito, and off the grid, then you need to be really smart, live smart and aware.
        I sure feel sorry for this lady and the battle she is living.

    • lilbear68
      December 17, 2013 at 10:35 am

      just for a FYI or as an eyeopener if you own land outright look on your deed you are referred to as ‘tennant’ unless you have done a research and accumulated all the papers covering EVERY transfer of deed since the land was originally a land grant post revolutionary war its not really yours

    • william
      December 19, 2013 at 6:16 am

      now this demands a protest her rights as a human being are being trampelled on enough is enough.

    • Hill Billy
      December 21, 2013 at 5:54 pm

      It’d be a shame if her off grid lifestyle caused a house fire right before she left.

      I remember reading about at least one of the cases in Kalifornia. A place called Antelope Valley, out side town and quite desolate (except in the videos the county had already made showing “development” plans).

    • robert
      December 29, 2013 at 12:54 pm

      Damm. When are people going to learn to not talk. Do not expose yourself to anyone. You can trust very few people, very few. My place was red tagged by code enforcement (the local police) and it was ugly. They said they were worried about my safety. The violation; I never turn on the gas service. I lived without heat. I was still on the hook for rent but I could not live in it until a hearing that was scheduled twenty some days later.

    • sos
      January 4, 2014 at 9:59 pm

      Learn about The U.N.s Agenda 21. After that many things are much clearer.

    • January 15, 2014 at 8:08 pm

      Hell yeah, I’ll come stand next to ya when they come knocking. Your home, your rules!

    • helonwheels
      January 22, 2014 at 10:30 pm

      I dont understand why this would happen? I know a lot of people who live off the grid and have not been punished by the government? Including myself. As long as I follow city hall’s regulations for rural living I am not committing any crime?? I dont have running water, septic, electricity etc…I think there is more to the story than meets the eye…..just sounds ridiculous!

    • An utter travesty. I say prepare as best you can how ever you can. Be strong, keep trying. Do not conform

    • Marc Iwata
      October 21, 2014 at 9:13 am

      Where’s the LIKE BUTTON?

    • The city of concord nc tore down my remodeled home because I ran for mayor of concord, four years earlier Barry McClamrock ran for mayor of concord his home was also torn down, this made me homeless.

    • Bobbie
      July 25, 2016 at 11:38 am

      i tend to agree with you. Though i know theres some people out there “living off the grid” who are probably collecting a nasty infectious pile of human waste somewhere in the vicinity. Is the threat to public safety ok? You can’t really live off the grid, in a populated neighborhood.

  2. Belinda Fitzpatrick
    December 16, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    Look up ICBO.com. That is the International Code of Building Officials. It is an instrument of the New World Order. I am not surprised in the least that the Code Officials ordered her to vacate. The purpose of that Code is to make people servient and dependant. The Code is part of Agenda 21. It is a way to make us vulnerable and to test if we will stand up for ourselves or if we are weak enough for them to take us out.

    • Belinda Fitzpatrick
      December 16, 2013 at 3:57 pm

      Also under the constitution they cannot dictate how you live on your own land. You are covered and the federal, state and local government have no authority when it comes to what you put on your land and how you use it. They all massively overstep their rights and because they have the guns, we let them…maybe that should change…

      • Marc Iwata
        October 21, 2014 at 9:16 am


  3. jamie
    December 16, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    This sounds all to familiar,, think back to native americans,, they lived different, and were labeled savages for being who they were!!

  4. djmoon
    December 16, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    people need to learn not to tell the world what they are doing. and yes it all has to do with agenda 21…read the book. read the last ‘afterword’ first. we are in a bad time where the government is trying to take over everyones lives. why don’t people get this. now ill be looking over my shoulder for posting this.

    • jnj kapp
      December 17, 2013 at 2:55 pm

      will any of you ever stand up or just keep moaning an quoting the constitution

      • Heinrich D. Bag
        December 20, 2013 at 12:51 am

        And you are currently leading a group of Minutemen?

        • paul
          January 26, 2015 at 7:15 pm

          so where is a militia of minutemen. and who is in charge of them.
          ”we the people” need to statrt getting organized

  5. Cillendor
    December 16, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    If you just don’t tell them you’re building (like if you buy land out away from the city and build a home on it), how could they find out?

    • kloathis
      December 16, 2013 at 1:18 pm

      Because most civil building code enforcement agencies (at least in MN) now use a program that compares historic satellite photos to current ones and if there is a change at all to your property picked up by the computer they will come and visit and write you a ticket. It is all done automatically, usually on an annual basis when new satellite imagary is available. All in the name of squeezing every last permit dollar out of you.

      • helonwheels
        January 22, 2014 at 10:55 pm

        yes, when I bought my property I did view the area via satellite on the hall of records website, the last owner had a double wide and I could see it clearly…..yep there are several payments I made to live on the property and before I could actually live on it I also had to have a building plan which cost to submit it, and must be complete within 5 years…

  6. jane grayson
    December 16, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    This is Imperialist bullshit, didn’t you Americans escape that in England and then set up a constitution to protect yourselves from that ever happening again? There aint no other lands on this planet to run away to now, what you gonna do? Huh???

    • christina Johnston
      December 16, 2013 at 1:55 pm

      Leave the country, it sucks any way

      • nancy
        December 16, 2013 at 3:52 pm

        And go where?

        • gina
          December 16, 2013 at 4:12 pm

          move to new zealand your aload to live of the grid and live on other means if you wont to…..

          • Jen
            December 16, 2013 at 8:57 pm

            New Zealand has IMPOSSIBLE immigration laws last I checked.

    • Brb
      December 17, 2013 at 7:45 pm

      Maybe WE Americans Will mention WWII Or Dentist’s
      And tell ya to SHU- Be quiet. Toodle-pip!

    • m
      January 26, 2014 at 1:00 pm

      Run away to mars

    • Marc Iwata
      October 21, 2014 at 9:19 am

      Well Jane, we’re going to have to do what any group of people has to do…fight back! But it isn’t just us Americans I’m afraid. This shite is global.

  7. yvonne molina
    December 16, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    its probably because if she isnt paying light companies money they are losing money and they are probably afraid other people will do the same and they end up losing money

    • Kent McMillen
      December 16, 2013 at 3:46 pm

      This is similar to increasing gas taxes on high efficiency cars, because the government is unwilling to face lower levels of tax revenue. Utility companies are no doubt behind this, fearing lower income from consumers.

    • helonwheels
      January 22, 2014 at 11:02 pm

      I disagree….I live off the grid and I pay for gas(fuel) for my generators so that I may have heat, air condition, use my stove etc…when I lived in the city my light bill was only $15 a month…how is that breaking them…in actuality the light companies are constantly asking people to conserve??? So how does that make them lose money?

      • ha
        February 13, 2014 at 10:22 am

        The utility companies only ask you to conserve because they are required to by the government. They don’t want anyone to actually do it because it’s less money for them.
        It all comes back to the agenda of the government.

  8. Renee
    December 16, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    To Jane Grayson: We certainly won’t be moving back to a country that still pees themselves when the Queen drives by! Nor a country that is 100 yrs. behind the times in everything!

    • Mary
      December 16, 2013 at 3:44 pm

      One will not be using advanced technology while living off the grid. That kind of defeats the purpose.

      • helonwheels
        January 22, 2014 at 11:05 pm

        I live off the grid and I have internet and cable through satellite, how is that not using advanced technology???

  9. Sherry
    December 16, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    Wow! That’s pretty sad! But not very bright if ur broadcasting it!! Keep ur business ur own! If I was living off grid I sure as hell would keep my mouth shut!! Thank God I live in canada!!

  10. Jennifer
    December 16, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    If she is forced to get back on the grid, I’m not sure how they can force her to use electric or gas or whatever else. Hook everything up but don’t use it and continue things the way you were doing. How can they force you to spend money. Such a bunch of crap.

    • nancy
      December 16, 2013 at 3:53 pm

      How can they force you to spend money? How can they force you to buy health insurance?

      • redfish
        December 17, 2013 at 10:16 am

        Obama care

      • helonwheels
        January 22, 2014 at 11:07 pm

        you have a good point! :)

  11. Ryan
    December 16, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    So how is it legal for the Amish to live off grid off grid living needs to be a religion

    • Phil
      December 16, 2013 at 4:36 pm

      You post brings up a lot of interesting questions. There is separation of church and state, but how separate are they? Do the Amish pay property tax? Do the Amish pay income tax? Do the Amish have social security numbers? Do they have license plates on their buggies or the horses they ride? I guess unless the land was homesteaded before the mid 1700s, would they have to pay property tax? Do they need state issued IDs even? Do they have to register for the draft or to vote? Just some things to make you folks out there think about.

  12. gina
    December 16, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    move to a country were you are aload to live on other means like new zealand we can live of the grid we dont have to have goverment power connection if we dont wont to or other means of other living.

  13. Phil
    December 16, 2013 at 4:18 pm

    It said that the government has to try and take over your life but they are getting taxes from the electric company so they want you on the grid. You may own your own home but you don’t own the land it sits on and that’s why you pay property taxes. The government owns all the land in all fifty states therefore it is an illusion that you own your land unless you bought the land rights. And yes it is a good thing to keep your mouth shut if you are doing something that saves you money but keeps the money out of governments hands, they don’t like that. That’s why we had the Boston tea party back in the day. The government always wants more than what we have. So when you can figure out a way to save money say nothing to no one. And in response to other comments, you could go live in another country but they would want taxes too and sometimes they want more. So unless you find an island that no government or private citizen has claim on, you will have to pay the taxes that the government wants. And if you can find such an island only then can you truly be free from the government’s greedy pockets. Sorry if I stepped on anyone’s toes but that is how I see things.

    • Bobbie
      July 25, 2016 at 11:51 am

      You do own the land rights. You may not own the air or mineral rights, or you may lease the land(for example if you live on an indian reservation).Know what you are buying. I believe taxes are for improvements, road, lighting etc. You are right in the sense we never really own anything, but borrow it.

  14. I don’t know about what was aired (page not found through link). However, it can not be just for “living off the grid”. They may have cited the house as uninhabitable if there were no correct sewage installed and running. If there were an unsafe condition for her…or her neighbors (rodent/insect breeding ground) or if the structure were unsound..they could condemn the building.

    You may heat through a pot belly stove…and cook on it. You may use a well for plumbing. You may use solar for electricity and water heating. These are all legal. This tells me that there is more to the story.

    • Steve
      December 16, 2013 at 8:15 pm

      Shiro, yours and one other comment here are the only sensible ones. Even on the surface, this story is incomplete. Find the rest of the story and we will have a very different story.

  15. scott
    December 16, 2013 at 4:44 pm

    First off i`am totally into off the grid lifestyle amoung prepping,seems like if your gonna do this stay off the tv and keep it to yourself.

  16. Dinah
    December 16, 2013 at 4:55 pm

    Has anyone actually checked this story out to see if it’s true? Does it sound plausible to be “evicted” from your own home?

    • Nina
      December 16, 2013 at 6:33 pm

      Yes it is true. Saw it on a news blip, then nothing else.

    • Sheep
      December 16, 2013 at 8:16 pm

      Dinah…. just go back to your slumber we’ll wake you when they’re hauling you away to the camps! Seriously though, do you pay any attention to what’s going on in the world?

  17. Vicky C
    December 16, 2013 at 5:34 pm

    Is this a classic case of, “You can’t fight City Hall?”
    Our government is beyond Fidiculous. That’s right, Fidiculous. Anyway to stop you and make you do things their way, they are going to do it. They will pass a new law to do it. And it is getting worse everyday. I think we should not reelect any politician. And then perhaps, we can get the new ones to finally work for the people.

  18. sean j
    December 16, 2013 at 7:03 pm

    If she was amish it would be ok…..i have complete solar in pa….had to fight with them for 2 yrs……they said i had to be hooked up to electric company any way…..even told me they could take my kid if we had no electric….to family ser ices suprise i was watching tv in a 70 degree house on that cold day they showed up……another case of shame on them……

  19. Profmorphious
    December 16, 2013 at 7:54 pm

    stop talking about it except with people you trust for God’s sake

  20. Miss Beck
    December 16, 2013 at 11:41 pm

    Libtard tree-huggers seem to get away with it. I wonder if everyone wanting to live off of the grid just said that they were trying to leave a zero carbon footprint and want to help with climate change would they then be left alone? Who cares if you are lying and really doing it to be self-reliant? Just convince them you are a “save the earth” kind of person. ;)

    • Marc Iwata
      October 21, 2014 at 9:25 am

      You can do better than trying to offend those you disagree with. I just know it.

  21. Darren
    December 17, 2013 at 6:26 am

    Saw this story yesterday. As long as she is not a hoarder and her house is clean and safe, they have no right. It’s disgusting the way the State is creaping in on every front.

    One note to the author: Please correct your use of women. “Woman” is singular. “Women” is plural. This is a story about one woman.

  22. Gary
    December 17, 2013 at 7:14 am

    When u buy land etc,U EXPECT 2 OWN IT!!Then they expect(demand)land tax…thats another way of saying, we dont care how many thousands of $$$ u payed 4 the land, ur gunna pay us taxes (rent) 4 it. Also what the hell has it got 2 do with them if u live off the grid?? Oh thats right….they want ur money!! & when others know how ur living off the grid, then it gets others 2 THINK about doing the same thing. Power companies dont like that at all, so u get bullied in2 being on THEIR grid!! Well iv been working on something 4 the last 4ys 2 supply most of my own power (95% FREE)that uses no fuel of any sort 2 run it.At the momment i can use it 2a point, just needs alittle more curseing, name calling,finger hurting,some more curseing etc, & i should have any probs solved.If any1 tells me i must stop working on my free energy system, i will tell them….screw u!!

    • paul
      April 14, 2014 at 10:57 pm

      stop speaking walmart and learn to spell correctly.

  23. thewolfman
    December 17, 2013 at 8:23 am

    Solar, wind or hydro power sounds easy. The systems aren’t complicated, but the rules n regulations are. If you get caught not following the rules, that will shut you down! There are states that are imposeing usage tax on what you would have used. If you have an electric car, your taxes are higher per milage driven, they want the road tax! Solar,wind,hydro? Usage tax, to maintain the rest of the grid for common users! Nothing is free, I bet soon they will impose a “fresh breathable air tax”!

  24. redfish
    December 17, 2013 at 10:12 am

    I live in cape coral and this place is like living in one big gated community.the German’s and Canadians have over run tbis place and brought there socialist ways with them. Hell less then 20 years ago you couldn’t own a truck and park it in the driveway because it was a code violation. Just waiting for the kids to graduate high school and im out of this sociList town. Dam shame it came to this because the weather and fishing is the best in the world.

  25. overeasy
    December 17, 2013 at 10:39 am

    I had a dream about this kind of situation. In my dream, this woman living off grid staked off her property, used Google to find the metes and bounds of the land, claimed the land under law, placed the land into a private express trust, posted notice of her claim and interest on some sort of registry designed for that, waited for the notice to become fact, posted a sign on her property informing public agents that the land is private without the U.S., and charged any public agents invading the land (under their unlimited commercial liability!) a reasonable fine of like $10k or something, and when they failed to pay she enforced it via a perfected private administrative and adjudicative process, also she had the sheriff arrest them when they tried to return, and their public servant bonds got liened I think… I don’t know anything about common law or international commercial law so that may or may not be a thing in real life. In the dream she didn’t have to pay land taxes anymore or abide by statutes of the surrounding incorporated city (it was weird, in my dream cities and governments were franchised corporations, and citizens were merely shareholders & employees who had contracted away all their rights), because the land was without the U.S. and not under the public jurisdiction. She privately contracted with the local fire department and put up a bond for their services in case of emergency. But she was an amazing woman, she knew the principles of contracting inside and out, how to administer a private express trust, how to stand on her claim, and how to bind the court to enforce it, and I think she would have failed if she did not fully comprehend what she was doing. It was awesome but just a dream.

  26. Fraser Sigsworth
    December 17, 2013 at 3:30 pm

    Maybe if you live off the grid its best to build a fortres?

  27. Someone
    December 18, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    whoever wrote this article needs to learn that the word “women” is plural for “woman”…

  28. Joe
    December 18, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    Dig tunnels, prepare to fight. If the Mexicans can do iy so can we!

  29. brittney
    December 19, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    not that it matters, but im curious about what exactly she said and what exactly the context was of “living off the grid”. I guess it confuses me that? anyone would even care? anybody know more details?

  30. MxChik
    December 20, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    Here in NC we have many who live off the power grid. Some stay on it because they have more power from their wind & solar than they use & sell it back to Duke Energy. Either way, here you still have a choice. Other places, I can’t speak for, (but the story of Eustace Conway is because of the school. Conway refused to comply with the standards set for the school, and was open as a public school. If it was private for family only, it would have been fine. But once you open your doors to the public, you fall under public safety & health rules.) That’s why I stay to myself! :-D

  31. zada
    December 22, 2013 at 8:24 am

    Any one who starts raling against “the government” on this is simply wrong….this has to do with LOCAL LAWS…Yes, it is technically the “government”, but NOT the Feds, which is what the Libertarians (like Palin, Cruz, Paul)try to make you believe. When the FEDS can be involved, the laws are ALWAYS more fair than LOCAL rulings~because FEDERAL law gets more scrutiny and is NOT so much hidden as local aspects are.

  32. Phoebe Marlowe
    December 23, 2013 at 7:04 am

    Loose Lips Sink Ships.

  33. Bev Rosen
    December 24, 2013 at 10:34 pm

    How is living off the grid any different than having Solar panels on your house?? Those people are basically trying to do the same thing!!

    • tim65616
      January 25, 2014 at 9:29 pm

      the government can tax those but they cant tax nothing

  34. Brooke
    December 31, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    Federal Land Pantents… the only way to OWN your land

  35. William Rothschild
    January 6, 2014 at 11:37 am

    Having lived in scrape Coral for a time and having actually worked for the City, I can say, first hand, that this city is one of the most anal city around. You had to get a permit to build something around your trash cans because they weren’t allowed to be seen from the road. They’ve turned the whole city into a narc vs narc society where every neighbor narcs on everybody else. Move away now!

  36. God bless, Robin Speronis. I forget how controlled and manipulated we are, and then I hear this story. I am startled out of the suburban shell that I hide in. (Sadly my parents opted to send me to finishing school instead of boot camp.) I feel outraged and terrified. At first, I think I have no power and then I realize that is just the game of fear. I cannot become complacent; I need to keep facing my fears so that no one can use them against me; so that I will be able to hear the lies and see the truth. And the truth, from my experience, is that there are higher forces (name them whatever you want) that move on this planet when we remove that fear. The next time I sit down to mediate, I am going seek out Robin in her darkest hour. If her valiant Soul allows me, I will do anything I can to help shed Light on her situation. I know that it is possible to work across space and time to help someone find a creative solution and move into alignment for it to serendipitously come together; or to help them see and avoid the toxic motives of a person who claims to be helping. If there is a physical action I can take to increase the Light on this planet, may it be revealed to me in my meditation. We might be few, but we are never alone– unless we choose to stand in the dark.

  37. UFknTard
    January 13, 2014 at 6:19 am

    What happened to the days when the old adage of “loose lips sink ships” gone? Look, if youre dumb enough to tell the world how to prep or how you need to prep, then you deserve what you get! Preppers prep for a variety of reasons, one being the lack of trust with their government, but yet some think there’s enough trust in them that they will turn their heads when they blab about the preps they have, I can assure they will not, hence the reason we are all having this conversation… So, don’t ask and don’t tell applies big time when it comes to prepping as far as I’m concerned. And If the masses haven’t figured out how to prep by now, oh frikin well!

  38. tim65616
    January 25, 2014 at 9:26 pm

    If I want to live off grid then I will. If the government wants to tell me that I have to go back on the grid then I will say “Fine hook me up with your electricity, water, and gas but I will not pay for it.” If I get thrown in jail fine but I will not use the water in there and will not be nice until they cut the power in my cell. If I don’t want their crap in my home then I will not be forced to have it because you push me I will push back. Tell me that I have to do something that I don’t want to do then I will make it a point to do the absolute opposite. I go to jail then when I get out I will go right back to what I was doing before but will advertise the fact. the communist republic of america can tell me what to do when I can tell them what to do. Lets all go off grid at the same time and see what they do then.

  39. Jeff
    February 1, 2014 at 7:03 am

    If you are going to live in the city limits you will have to live by their rules. Just because you are hooked up to the grid does not mean you have to us it. City Codes are there to keep the houses live able and sell able. You can live a off grid life in the city and not cut all ties, just turn off you electrical main breaker, turn off your gas meter, turn off your water meter. If you can’t live with in these rules and not uses the grid then do like most of us pack your bags and more some where that you can.

    • Al metcalf
      March 8, 2014 at 7:14 am

      RIGHT! This woman is actually being a little stupid here. I listened to a radio show with her on and I looked up her web site. She uses the city sewer but then refuses to hook up the water. Water and sewer is billed together so she is basically saying she wants to use the sewer system for free! Sorry, life doesn’t work that way. This finally went to court last month and everything was thrown out except this one issue. They want her to hook up the water which of course she should do but she is acting like some martyr over this.
      It is true that the original city worker overreacted but this woman is not a great representative for preppers in my opinion.
      Look people, if you want to live a freer life then don’t live where they have so many codes. Stop to think for a moment, how would you like it if all your neighbors ( if you are in a city) suddenly started using propane camp stoves indoors and catching rain water on tarps outside. Personally I wouldn’t want that at all. All the idiots would burn down my house with theirs and I wouldn’t want to look at all those tarps. She is really just acting like a spoiled teen in my opinion. Moved into an area with certain codes and then started demanding that she doesn’t have to abide by said codes.

      • Truth
        March 13, 2014 at 8:36 am

        It is her choice. Go to manta.com and put in your local code enforcement “agency”. You will see that they are a PRIVATE CORPORATION. Those codes apply only to those that work for that company.

  40. andrfe
    February 28, 2014 at 1:46 pm

    how be we send Obama the traiter in c hief to Iran where he can live off the grid in their prisons.

  41. Doasisayand livelong
    March 16, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    Step #1, Don’t pay your taxes…
    Step #2, kill man who comes to put a notice on your house for not paying taxes…
    Step #3 Pay taxes…
    Step #4 Dump body in ocean with cinder-blocks and fishing line, on the arms and legs while punching a bunch of holes in the chest and lungs.//////
    For those fare away from the ocean, dumping body in tarp over an ant hill fare away where people don’t go for a few months then wrap up body after nature has done its work and put the bones in a 50gal steel drum and burn them, if any remains are left use a sifter/ EG metal mesh screen to separate the larger pieces from the ash, and repeat burning and spread the ashes until nothing remains. :)

  42. Doasisayandlivelong
    March 16, 2014 at 8:01 pm

    Step #5 Repeat every so many years.
    Though if you can…Go for the people that put up the notices on your neighbors house if at all possible to avoid suspicion being drawn to you and still getting your guerrilla warfare in. :)
    If enough people do this, the problem will be solved.

  43. ash
    March 28, 2014 at 2:42 pm

    Don’t register your property. Registrar of deeds cannot force you. Learn old english and learn that register means owned by the crown.

  44. ash
    March 28, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    This is not a dream, overeasy. Satan wants to force everyone into a corporate jurisdiction, us is a corporation, the city you live in is probably a corporate jurisdiction and if it is not then your county probably is too and if the county isn’t, then your state is a corporate entity which borrows and sells.

  45. janice
    July 3, 2014 at 9:28 am

    We pay property taxes that go towards our roads, lights, public schools, utility systems, etc. We must live on land that is not owned or connected to the grid in order to truly live off the grid.

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