Depending on where you live, and exactly what you decide to live in, the answer could be yes. A growing number of city and county zoning agencies around the world are implementing ordinances to crack down on off-grid living, and in case after case, they’re making it a crime.
We’ve been covering this fight for over a decade now. From targeting self-reliant homeowners with antiquated zoning laws to forming special code enforcement squads designed to force people back onto the grid, there is a war against self-reliance going on in this country — and depending on the zip code, the government is winning.
What’s changed since we first started writing about this isn’t the war itself. It’s the scale of it. The cases below start with the ones that put this issue on the map. Then we bring you current — because in the last two years alone, this fight has spread from rural homesteads to entire city blocks, and the next battle over who gets to decide how you live on your own land is being fought right now, not in some county courthouse you’ll never hear about, but in the headlines.
Living Off the Grid Is Illegal in Many Areas of the United States
Throughout the United States, government agencies have formed so-called “nuisance abatement teams” designed to intimidate and force off-grid homeowners into giving up their land or abandoning their lifestyle. Believe it or not, people are actually being fined and jailed for choosing to live an off-grid existence.
From Costilla County, Colorado trying to ban people from building off-grid homes or camping on their own land, to the federal government actually trying to make it illegal to live in a tiny house or off-the-grid RV, there are a growing number of agencies trying to regulate this lifestyle out of existence.
While the mainstream media continues to mostly ignore the problem, a handful of independent media outlets and a few stubborn reporters have taken notice. Here’s the record, case by case — the old ones that started it, and the new ones that prove nothing’s slowed down.
Off-Grid Homeowners Intimidated Into Hooking Back Into the Grid
There are literally thousands of examples of people who have been harassed, threatened, fined, and jailed for going off the grid. Here are the cases that matter.
The Deserts of Los Angeles County, California
The deserts of Los Angeles County, California used to be a sort of mecca for those looking to live a more self-reliant lifestyle. But just like so many areas of the country, these off-grid residents have been targeted, arrested, and intimidated into hooking back into the grid.
A few years back, Reason Magazine took a film crew out to one of these secluded desert towns in California and filmed the off-grid residents there. From being threatened with jail time if they didn’t hook back into the grid, to actually being thrown in jail because the county didn’t like the look of their homes or land, the people in the deserts of L.A. County have been terrorized by their own local government.
Instituted in 2006 by Los Angeles County Supervisor Michael Antonovich, the L.A. Board of Supervisors’ Nuisance Abatement Teams have been targeting and jailing residents for victimless misdemeanors and code violations ever since. Code enforcement teams have hit unincorporated areas of L.A. County hard, and local off-gridders are still living without certainty about what the future holds. Residents are scared they may lose not only their homes, but their freedom as well.
The Case of Robin Speronis in Cape Coral, Florida
Robin Speronis tried to go off the grid in Cape Coral, Florida. She disconnected from the city’s water, sewer, and electrical systems, relying instead on solar power and harvested rainwater. The city cited her for violating the International Property Maintenance Code, and a code enforcement officer eventually declared her home “unfit for human habitation” — going so far as to warn that even entering the property would constitute trespassing.
Her case went in front of Special Magistrate Harold Eskin in early 2014. The ruling split the difference in a way that still tells you everything you need to know about how these fights actually go: Eskin ruled Speronis could legally live without being hooked up to electrical power, but that she was still required to connect to the city’s water system — whether she used the water or not. Her solar setup would also need city approval. Speronis was given until March 18, 2014 to comply or face $50-a-day fines.
She didn’t comply. She appealed instead, with help from The Rutherford Institute, arguing that property owners retain a basic measure of sovereignty over what happens on their own land. By later that year, her case file listed 48 separate code violations, she’d racked up nearly $13,000 in combined water, sewer, and code enforcement liens, and the city had pulled her certificate of occupancy entirely — meaning that, legally, she could no longer be in her own house. Speronis kept fighting anyway, and her case became one of the most cited examples in the entire off-grid legal fight, cropping up in homesteading forums and prepper circles for years afterward.
Veteran Who Fought for Our Country, Thrown in Jail for Living “Off the Grid”
In November 2016, Tyler Truitt — a Marine Corps veteran who’d gone on to work at Redstone Arsenal — was thrown in jail for violating a city zoning ordinance in Huntsville, Alabama.
“We live out here off the grid, 100 percent self-sustaining,” Truitt said at the time. “I basically made all my utilities: I have my solar panels, I have my rainwater collection and stuff. I took an oath that I would support and defend the constitution and the freedoms that entails, and I really feel like those are being trampled upon.”
The city gave Truitt and his girlfriend until June 1 to bring their trailer up to code. They refused, and instead filed a civil suit against the city, challenging the ordinances directly. “We’ve yet to have any of those arguments be heard in court, so that’s what we’re trying to do with the civil suit,” Truitt told reporters. “How much is this fight worth to them? I know what it means to me. It’s my home, it’s everything, and I’m not moving the house.”
City officials didn’t budge either. “The purpose behind these requirements is public safety,” said Kelly Schrimsher, communications director for Huntsville’s mayor. “This includes ensuring that occupants of a residential dwelling have safe, potable, running water and electricity, particularly in the wintertime.”
Here’s the update nobody likes to print: Truitt lost. A judge ultimately ruled that he did not have the right to live off the grid on his own land, and Truitt was given just 14 days to either move his home or face further legal action from the city. It’s one of the clearest, most direct court rulings on record stating, in plain terms, that off-grid living can be deemed illegal — not because of safety violations on the ground, but because a permanent off-grid setup didn’t satisfy the city’s definition of a “permanent” utility source.
“We live out here off the grid, 100 percent self-sustaining,” Truitt said. “So I basically made all my utilities: I have my solar panels, I have my rainwater collection and stuff. ” took an oath that I would support and defend the constitution and the freedoms that entails, and I really feel like those are being trampled upon.”
Is It Really Your Land? According to Most Zoning Officials, You Need to Follow Their Rules
On top of using size restrictions to limit what off-grid homeowners can live in, towns throughout the U.S. also target mobile homes directly. In many areas, houses are required to be built on a permanent foundation and hooked up to public utilities before they’re considered legal dwellings at all.
Unfortunately, that piece of freedom you thought you bought might not be so free. If your land isn’t zoned for recreational vehicle living, off-grid living, or camping, you may be in for some serious trouble — and as the cases below show, that trouble didn’t stay in small rural counties. It’s gone fully mainstream.
2025–2026 Update: The Fight Has Moved to the Cities
For most of this article’s history, the off-grid fight played out in rural counties — places like Costilla County, Colorado, or unincorporated stretches of the California desert, where a handful of homesteaders squared off against a small zoning office nobody outside the county had heard of. That’s no longer where the biggest battles are happening.
San Francisco Bans Long-Term RV Living Citywide
In 2025, San Francisco passed sweeping legislation banning long-term RV living across the entire city. Under the new rules, any vehicle longer than 22 feet or taller than 7 feet is now restricted from parking in any one spot for more than two hours, citywide. RV dwellers who had already registered with the city as of May 2025 were given a narrow exemption — but only if they agreed to accept city housing assistance and give up their RV when their turn came.
Mayor Daniel Lurie set aside $13 million over two fiscal years for housing subsidies, outreach, enforcement, and a vehicle buyback program that pays RV owners $175 per foot to surrender their rigs. “This legislation combines compassion with accountability,” Lurie said when introducing the measure.
For the families actually living it, “compassion” looked like something else. Residents on Winston Drive near Lake Merced — many of them working immigrant families with children, using their RVs as the only housing they could afford in one of the most expensive cities in the country — described the rollout as a mass eviction. “Sweeps are not only a means to displace people from a sidewalk, it is a means to break down communities and break down political power,” one community organizer told reporters. One mother, who’d built a fragile routine of stability for her kids, put it simply: “You adapt to a place. We’ve already adapted to the calmness here. So going to a different place is difficult because you’re not sure if you can trust it.”
This isn’t a fringe case in a desert town anymore. This is the policy of one of the largest cities in America.
California Passes a Law Letting Counties Seize Your RV
It gets worse. In late 2025, California passed Assembly Bill 630, authored by Assemblymember Mark Gonzalez, which authorizes Los Angeles and Alameda counties to run a pilot program — active from January 2026 through January 2030 — that lets the counties “streamline the removal” of RVs deemed inoperable or abandoned, so long as the vehicle is valued at $4,000 or less.
Here’s the part that should bother anyone who’s ever lived in a vehicle by choice or necessity: the law applies even if someone is currently living in that RV. Advocates for unhoused and vehicle-dwelling residents warn the law will make life even more unstable for the people who depend on these vehicles as shelter, since once a county seizes and tows a unit, the owner frequently can’t pay the storage and towing fees required to get it back — and they’re left with nothing.
Not Every County Is Going the Same Direction — Nevada County, California
It’s worth being straight with you: not every local government is moving to crush off-grid and alternative living. Nevada County, California — where living in an RV has technically been illegal for years, despite an estimated 1,000-plus residents reportedly doing it anyway, quietly, under the radar — spent 2025 debating an ordinance that would do the opposite of San Francisco’s approach and legalize RV living on private property.
“What people don’t realize is that people are already doing it,” said longtime resident and advocate Tom Durkin, who has lived in a trailer on a friend’s property since 2018. “We tend to be very discreet because we’re paranoid, ya know, don’t want to get reported.” Durkin has spent more than six years pushing the county to recognize alternative housing as legitimate. “I’ve got excellent credit, no criminal history, I’m well educated, and I couldn’t find a place to live,” he said.
A county survey found 72 percent of respondents favored the new ordinance, and by September 2025 the county had received roughly 1,900 public comments on the draft — one of the largest public responses county staff say they’ve ever seen on a single proposal. The Board of Supervisors held three public hearings throughout 2025 before bringing the ordinance to a final vote, and it passed by a narrow 3–2 margin. It’s a real exception to the trend, and proof that this fight isn’t lost everywhere — but it took years of organizing by residents who, frankly, shouldn’t have had to fight for the right to live quietly on land they already had access to.
The Pattern Holds: Regulation by Attrition
What ties Cape Coral, Huntsville, Costilla County, and San Francisco together isn’t a single law. It’s a strategy. Few of these jurisdictions pass a law that says “off-grid living is illegal” outright — that would be too obvious, and too easy to fight in court. Instead, they regulate the specific pieces that make off-grid living possible: water hookups, RV parking duration, minimum dwelling sizes, “permanent” power source requirements, certificate-of-occupancy rules that quietly demand utility connections. Stack enough of those requirements on top of each other, and off-grid living becomes illegal in practice without ever being illegal on paper.
That’s not a conspiracy theory. It’s just how these ordinances are written, case after case, decade after decade — and it’s exactly why this fight keeps resurfacing in new cities under new names, even after the old fights are forgotten.
Where Things Actually Stand If You’re Thinking About Going Off-Grid
To be fair to the other side of this for a second: off-grid living is not, technically, illegal in any of the 50 states. What trips people up — Speronis, Truitt, the residents of Costilla County, the families on Winston Drive — is never the broad concept of self-sufficiency. It’s the local, granular stuff: water rights, septic permitting, RV occupancy duration limits, certificate-of-occupancy requirements, and “permanent dwelling” definitions that vary wildly from one county line to the next.
A few things are worth knowing if you’re seriously considering this lifestyle in 2026:
Zoning is everything. Many counties — especially in states like Missouri, Montana, and parts of Tennessee — still have no zoning ordinance at all, or only loose agricultural zoning that doesn’t restrict how you power or plumb your home. Other counties, even in off-grid-friendly states, enforce code as aggressively as any city. You have to check county by county, not just state by state.
RV and tiny-house living occupies a legal gray zone almost everywhere. Whether a structure counts as a legal dwelling, a recreational vehicle, or an illegal accessory structure depends on foundation type, square footage, and local adoption of building code provisions like IRC Appendix Q — and that adoption is inconsistent even within a single state.
Certificate-of-occupancy rules are the quiet killer. Even in areas with lax zoning, getting a legal C of O often requires connection to municipal water, sewer, or electric — which defeats the purpose for a lot of people trying to go off-grid in the first place.
Federal incentives have actually expanded. The extended Inflation Reduction Act credits still offer a 30 percent tax credit on solar, battery storage, and qualifying off-grid water systems, even as local enforcement has tightened in places like San Francisco. It’s a strange split-screen: federal policy nudging people toward energy independence while local code enforcement teams push the other direction.
It’s a sad day when living on your own land becomes a crime. Please spread the word, because these cases aren’t slowing down — they’re spreading to bigger cities, bigger budgets, and bigger headlines.
Republicans? as in the people who.are for war?, guns?, not being able to have rights for your own body and unsupportive towards same sex marriage because they believe in so strongly in something that isn’t there? Its funny how I read on comments of “supporting” off grid yet half of you people commend the Republicans? That’s even more funny then how I.sit and think that the only real people who should be complaining are the Indians who owned this land and respected this land long before the real immigrants (greedy English settlers) came here! Its insane to think that all this mess was in fact created by the blood lines of english settlers! And I commend the Indians who didn’t mouch off their land. They actually traveled and in doing so replenished the earth.
well from the perspective of a Mi’kmaq who is more likely to vote republican than democrat in the presidential election I have to say we are really choosing between the lesser of two evils. I hate war and don’t think it’s any of our governments business who pairs up with who, or what we do with out bodies. However, if you try to see through all the smoke and mirrors you’ll see the real issue all of america needs to combat is the size and scope of our government agencies. We lock up more of our people than any other nation on earth.Our poor, meaning those who can’t afford to pay thousands to lawyers, have NO rights in our judicial system. We the people keep paying more and more out of our paychecks, in addition to our groceries,and to keep our homes and vehicles, while our politicians are busy making more laws.
Speaking as a native american that yearns to live in a world that respects Mother Earth and allows men to live free of the soul crippling fences we have established at every turn and every decision OUR government is too big. Whatever smoke and mirrors they want to wave around us please do not be deceived. We can love whom ever we want to and the republicans are not going to stop it.
blue democrat states do you mean communist states that is what democrats are to me communist
Yea, it was George H. W. Bush that signed the code into law that allows this in the US and Bill Clinton ratified the update. Between greed and Hubris we’re all in deep poo.
If our government is attacking it’s own people right here in the United States, then something is wrong, this is not a democracy, it’s a dictatorship. All everyone has to do is to band together and defend themselves, I mean everyone. There are more decent people here in the U.S.A then corrupt officials, think about it. Be smart, don’t let our government enslave us all. I would think this is worth dying for. In case you are not aware, it was our government who at first, made the Indians move further out, away from their control, then they wanted to expand the land, and look where they are now. They have no rights whats-so-ever, and why is that? well that’s because they didn’t get together and defend themselves as a group. So, come on people, get smart.
That won’t happen. It’s fact, that folks like us that would rather dePend on our own skills and survive by simple means, are the minority. We can’t even prevent corruption on a local level, let alone try and influence the average joe to climb aboard and support our rights, libertys, and plain independance. So, this will be just one more freedom taken away and later forgotten. Like immenant domain, or heirloom farming,etc. it’s very simple! You rock the boat, they make an examPle out of you.period.
I lived in a town of 280 people on one square mile and you’d think it would be small enough to control corruption, favoritism, etc. But no. I thought, if we can’t do it here, how can we take on the state, fed or UN? That crazy little town is now charging the people — most of whom are poor — $200/month just for water.
This is the whole problem…people like us are the ones that pay for the big wigs to trample all over us. They do as they damn well please as long as we don’t rock their boat, and when we do, well, we suffer however they want to “punish” us! I for one am damn tired of it!
I totally agree with so many of you. I have info about the whereabouts of 3 terrorists that have been indicated by a Grand Jury..but no one on Law Enforcement will listen..I was With the Sheriff’s Sept ( a deputy who worked corrections) I also worked at the Unemployment office for over 10 years, I had access to every single persons social security number in the entire nation. I help people, I used to LOVE MY COUNTRY. I AM EVEN part Native American…and now I have Terrorists threatening my life and the police and the FBI no-one listens and no one cares..
Think of solutions instead of complaining.
I am from the south and I do not want the goverment to own me. The people in the north are the ones that will starve when big daddy says so. As I told my yankee husband he will never starve because I can hunt,kill skin,cook meat and this also goes for my garden.I feel sorry for the demos that believe that present goverment is for the people better watch out we will have anothe hitler but the who will help us
I love the Who…..I am glad they will help us. Love that band.
What you think only people south of the Mason Dixon Line know how to hunt, skin, cook and raise a garden? Wow you are intelligent. Yep Geography has everything to do with intelligence and skill. LOL
ever been to Montana, Idaho, or even northern California, Verna? ever been anywhere north? Im guessing not. There are folks everywhere that are able, prepared, and skilled enough to survive, and thrive, self sufficiently. DUH.
I kin go to the grocery store and get a lot of food…
welll not that they didnt defend themselves but more so like they got the shit kicked out of them by guns and bombs then raped and robbed for what was rightfully theres. our country was founded on the fact that white man almost completely wiped out an entire culture of beautiful people. there guns were just to much to handle. even the bravest of worrior can be put down by a little bitch with a gun if u get my point.
You’re wrong. Disease killed most of the American Indians before there were any hostilities. Afterward, they were coaxed into giving up much of their land before any violence took place. Bows were more effective in combat than smoothbore guns. People who think that the guns of that day were that overpowered need to do some reading. It was disease that destroyed them, not guns. Study early gunpowder combat, then speak about guns and “bombs.”
Yes. The white man was kind enough to bring us small pox. That was a great help.
N. Am Native Smallpox outbreaks happened before the bacterial and viral theory of disease existed. You assume giving blankets was malicious, not need-to-keep-warm sympathy/charity based behavior of Western-Civ Americans.
Original American: There’s no need to expend effort to keep you down, when you crush yourself and drag down any possible in-group achievement. Thank you.
Disease put here by Spaniards when they released rats infested with plague-carrying fleas. But,that only wiped out 10% of every tribe. While the Spaniards conquered our southern neighbors, we wiped them out when they messed with us. Just as we wiped out the Vikings from the north. It was a combination of British, German, French and Swedish soldiers, commanded by British politicians, along with your African slaves with your guns and poisons and finally disease filled blankets that decimated our numbers to a few hundred thousand per tribe. It’s your flour and fake grease, your violence toward us even in this day, plus your “need” to breed us out of existence that has our numbers down. There are more of us left than you realize. We are not merely decendants of our ancestors, broken and stupid like you think. The time for the ghost dance is coming shortly. Everything will be as it once was. Off grid will be the ONLY way to survive this land once again.
The history you were taught is a lie, Northman. Indeed the government knew the blankets were infested. They knew we didn’t have any resistance to European diseases, out of their own experiments conducted on ancestors that were abducted and shipped to Europe as “prizes” to leaders of European countries. The intel from those countries was delivered to U.S. officials.
I shouldn’t have to fear 99% of white and black men around me, for myself and my daughters. But the truth is, we have a 99% chance of being raped because for no reason, we are viewed as sexually available by non-native men. For some reason when turned down by a woman of your own, it’s okay, but when turned down by a native woman or young girl, it becomes a whole different thing, and you violate us. I shouldn’t have to fear for my son, that a group of non-native men are going to corner him and beat and kick him to death for no other reason than he is a human being who looks different than you. The truth is, besides our males being viewed as sexually available to your females, the violence against our men by non-native men is staggering. A native boy has a 3% chance to make it to age 20, a 2% chance to survive to 30, and less than 1% chance to live beyond age 30.
The hatred and criminal mindset/activity against us is still in full swing. You just don’t hear about it on the news because we are STILL viewed as non-human, even now, when you all claim you are not racist.
You want to believe we are always at war with ourselves? That lie goes hand-in-hand with the Columbus lie, the John Smith (Pocahantus) lie, the first thanksgiving lie.
If we had been at war with each other, we would have been easy to conquer. As it is, it took you guys over 500 years and many armies to murder us at a rate that our numbers could be reduced enough to be “conquered” and shoved into war camps.
Stop the lies of your “leaders” and learn the truth.
We have to band together and destroy England and all its Barristers and all its mercenary lawyers it has infiltrated against the Constitution for the United States of America.
So very true, the Brits always complain about how our country is to free, they are just jealous.
I’m only 21 almost 22 and i already see what you all r saying and i happen to agree alot but to be honest i saw all this happening when i was around 13 or 14 years old, who knows maybe when i was younger. I really saw it when i was in the army 3 to 5 months before i got out and it really gets a little frighting when u never know who is going to get hit next with these so called GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL stupid people. So always ask for a warrent and look up any and all laws even the lesser ones because you never know when the knowledge will come in handy.
It is the right of every American to live whatever lifestyle they want to and go with nature and avoid unnatural foods. This meat in the grocery store has stuff in it that is bad for your health and nobody has a right to force such a thing on anybody.
We should all rise up and throw out the government and live free from dictatorship I live on this earth as I want not how they want me to I would love to have the big nob in a closed room and show him what a dictator is
It’d be better if we didn’t have a democratic system. Democracy is why we’re in this mess.
Never been to a third world country but I say if our precious government sent you there for “our freedom” someone lied to you sir,wars are all about who can take the most oil or goods from each other. You went and done what you did because someone in the government told you to and said “its for our freedom”. Look at how many vets that are committing suicide or messed up because of it and then not get help after being released.
True
Zoning regulations are powerful means of controlling how structures in an area look. And neighbors do not mean adjacent neighbors. Anyone can complain about anything when it comes to Zoning ordinances. Clearly, there is an interest in clearing private property of undesired structures which is using the law against poor people. Clearly the land owners cannot afford to change and that is the weapon. The land owners should find a clause (loophole) that allows them to remain as they are. Maybe they can be called caretakers of their land instead of residents because they structures are not recognized as homes.
I like your idea, i find it smart.
Everything is going up. Oil increases rapidly which accounts for increased inflation. Off the grid is the way to go. It is getting cheaper and cheaper to remove yourself from the grid. No one wants everyone to know its possible so they are making sure people are not off the grid. I live in Africa, and we are being forced to be on the GRID. Even if you move off they will charge you for serives you don’t need and can take your property away if you dont pay. There are standard services we all have to pay for. If you dont use them you still have to pay.
Let’s see, “team” starts with a “T”, and so does “terrorist” and “target”. I shoot targets, I will shoot terrorists, and I will shoot “teams”, no matter what costume they are wearing if they trespass on my property and I feel threatened.
I respect the fact that you say you will shoot any “T” member, in any costume.
But, in all reality, when the come knocking, and your standing behind your door with your AR……you then realize that they are all around you and you cannot risk your family’s life, in the other parts of the house
But you do have the right and the moral responsibility to defend yourself against these threats.
You may not win, but they will know you were there. Also, I like that you said “costumes”. It drives home the point that everyone is just a human. So, they have no more right to be on your property than you do theirs.
Hear hear!
You are right about it. It is getting worst; believe me, people who lived 30 or longer in countries ruled by dictators had more freedom than today’s people living in small towns or large cities. In some countries the water was free running all day long from the public and private fountains. I know , because as a child I saw my mother and my whole community having all the free water they needed. Then in middle seventies the guys from the “new government” came over to install water meters in every and single house; the beginning of government imposed “slavery” began. This is a true fact that happened in a small place in Western Europe. Back then everybody had their own house, it could be a very small house, but they had a ceiling; nowadays many people are living in rented rooms, even couples with small children, because the average wage is not enough to pay the rent of a whole apartment or house.
you need to do this out on an indian res where they will leave you in peace, understanding what you are doing is harmless and no problem..
Many places you can do this but never own the land, just occupy it as long as you need..
please if anyone knows of places were u can live free with some other peaceful people let me know. i cant stand this way of life, i feel enslaved and dream of freedom every second of the day. to my knowledge its against the “laws” to live free although i can hunt, trap, track, plant, and build. without help there isnt free land to do so as far as i know. im so sick of living in fear of when some junkie or something decides to kick in my door and kill me for dope or what have you. in my eyes, people are not ment to live like this, we have all been programed to serve in the destruction of our beautiful planet and it sickens me. when i look at most all day to day people and in there eyes all i see is does my ass look good in these jeans or is my car better than your ect….am i hungry, warm, happy is all u need to worry about. no wonder shrinks live so well, the government makes us all insane with trivial this were programed to think we need. for the love of life what the fuck is goin on in this world?
Standing ovation! Well said, anabata.
You are so right.
I agree, Well said. If you dont mind surviving in a cold climate Alaska has alot of land that is not that expensive. My property is off grid as far as water and electric but close to a road, a fresh water supply from the mountain and an electric pole if I decide I want electric. Its not mandatory as of yet. Many areas of Alaska will not accept government help of any kind.
Harry, take a look around. Everyone has been stripped of their discernment, their health,
their cunning, their self-reliance. Chumps. Plugged in and addicted. You couldn’t get everyone to meet at Starbucks at the right time to plan a coup let alone face the greatest most powerfully equipped military in history. Keep your head down. Nice thought, I like the spunk, but get real. This culture manufactures pussies. It creates and fetishizes disease. We need our “doctors”, our this, our that. Are you ready to forgoe all that crap? Most wouldn’t last a day. And the culture just keeps making dumbed down weak minded specimens. Fight back? Chickadee check yourself before you wreck yourself. You are talking about a comprehensive socially engineered “divide and conquer” social engineering masterpiece that is already in place, and from the ashes, long after the game has been thoroughly over, you are ready to make a stand. Ok, you are just about 4 generations too late.
Anabata, i am starting a offgrid community in Manu, the MOST biodiverse place on the planet. I have 50 hectares surrounded by millions of acres of wild jungle. Close to a village with doctors, internet, stores etc.
Check me out in youtube, “George Wright crossing the river”.
Good to know.
California is not the only place this sort of police state activity is being reported. In Chicago IL our political system has just squelched a committee designed to investigate police brutality along with multiple reports of torture to get US citizens to confess to crimes. Everyday I read another article, usually buried on the last page, about somewhere else that some aspect of the US government is trampling the rights of the people. I’m not one to buy into conspiracy theories, nor one to jump on the band wagon of every sob story that comes along. That said, evidence is everywhere that our free country has been turned into a police state. In my personal acquaintances I encounter a man that is now serving time in prison for hunting raccoon. This poor man was injured, taking a bullet to save someones life, and lost his ability to work. He turned to the only thing he had left to care for his family which was hunting, now he’s in prison and four kids don’t have a dad. It is absolutely insane that we the people, at least the majority, are doing nothing. Is this really all just craziness? My own daughter, a very conservative young lady, has told me she wants to move out of the US when she graduates from college…Is there really anything we can do?
First off write your friend in prison and give him my sincerest apologie he is locked up for killing a raccoon, but having hunted raccoon before I know them to have one of the foulest meats on the planet so I’m forced to assume he didn’t intend to feed his family with his kill.
Second off tell him, if he didn’t break the law, he would not be incarcerated. Plain and simple.
Third, where were you when this man was so destitute? It appears you are right YOU the people are doing nothing, except blame everyone else for not helping you or you friend with our tax dollars.
Give me a break people, quit whining and become a productive self sufficient person. Quit blaming the government or the so called police state, quit breaking the law.
I’ve been a cop going on 16 years and the only people I have ever met who complain about law enforcement are those who have been arrested, had family arrested or knew only the arrested persons side of events when they made their mind up. Grow up people
Take responsibility for your own actions for once in your pathetic lives
Amen.
i knew when you open your mouth that you are one of them that are or worked for the communist state , i bet that you brake the law all the time by speeding and i bet that you will lie , make up shit to make it harder for some one to get out of jail , and i bet if the communist do ban guns in this country you will be the first one to break the constitution that you sworn to up hold
I agree, that if you break the law, you should not complain about the consequences. But I also know that, not all laws are enforcemed e we equally. And being that the people breaking the law are human and therefore imperfect, so are the people making the laws, and the officers enforcing them. So to blanket every situation with the same reply, without knowing, is short sited, and closed minded. This world has and is changing. This change maybe good, but not without a lot of pain, death, and destitude first!
How is off the grid not self sufficient? Also, a day of tending garden, chopping wood and taking care of chores is pretty productive. better than sitting in an office for 8 hours. Or being a glorified hall monitor. (police)
How is taking care of yourself off grid not taking responsibility for our “pathetic” lives.
Boy I sure hope your not really a cop…
Also I believe we are making a difference now, by talking about it. Awareness.
I feel a sens of relief when I read most comments.
Those people who are NOT complaining or whining about the “police state” haven’t dealt with the police to really know how crooked the “police state” is. You have been trained to protect and serve and this doesn’t mean protect and serve Yourself! I can’t tell you the last time I saw an officer in my community serving or protecting! I vote, I work full time, I’m a mother, wife, sister, and aunt. I pay my taxes. My family is poor and we don’t get any assistance from any government agencies. I can’t buy clothes, school supplies, and let’s not even talk about food! Which, by the way, we have to have to survive! I’m by no means complaining, I’m stating facts. I wish I didn’t have to drive to work everyday, I wish I could own a house, hell land even! I’m a college educated woman, never been arrested or in jail! This is the story of a lot of Americans. Some have served time some not. My point behind all this is: LAND OF THE FREE, HOME OF THE BRAVE!!! Hah! What a bunch of bull! How can we be brave if they won’t let us have our land?
This makes me so mad! anyone should be able to live off THEIR OWN PRIVATE land the way they want (as long as they are not doing harm to others, like real harm, not just being a ‘nuisance’ to ‘neighbors’ that are ten miles away. that’s bullshit right there)even if their own private property is in the middle of a fucking city! I have been dreaming of going off grid and i feel like more people should. we need to get the government out of our private lives. seriously, if people are not harming others than we should be able to do whatever we want on our property. this pisses me off…especially how the government is coming onto these peoples properties with force and showing their guns to frighten these people into submission
If we remain resolute that we do not need a government to dominate us… they become more overbearing and destroy themselves because they eventually make the majority (the people) mad.. History teaches us this too.. The more overbearing and power hungry; the closer to any particular governmental body’s demise. The timeline is the only uncertainty… The pages of history tell us that can be decades, hundreds of years, or even thousand.. The pages of history prove that the collapse always comes and for a period of time afterward; the people have choices once again…, some wise and some unwise…
When a governmental entity (such as america) dumbs you down until it begins to deem it knows best, that is when you have a problem. When all so called “decisions” are coerced, regulated heavily, or optionless but to an end that stays within a systematic approach as to change nothing that matters really.. that is when your duty as a human being is to overthrown your government due to the people’s overwhelming power through population, we always prevail over any system of slavery.
Our founding fathers did and so shall all of the people. The struggles are real, painful, and are hard; but are always won:)
When a light is shined upon a bed-bugs retreat; it runs… The way to beat these power hungry naifs is to return fear for fear. When the robot enforcers and all of their leaders have a real threat outside of their jobs; they begin to become preoccupied and think differently.
This is a time tested method of fighting fire with fire! If you must be paranoid all the time and watch out for our own personal property, rights and privacy… you must return the favor. you must begin to make these people uncomfortable in their own personal “comfort zones”, so to speak, one by one.. This is the way of human psychology and domination!
Pick them out.. Latch on like a tick… Follow the chain.. Step outside of their box of a system! (Remember; one by one-pick them out… one by one wake up your brothers and sisters at the same time… There are never any rules!)
You see, the illusion is… you have to fight them outside of their systems! You cannot win with their “guidelines”.
I don’t think you will have to wait a thousand years. Your Gov has is clearly getting very worried……for example…..they just made Marijuana legal for recreational us in Colorado and Washington…..yes, you can get high in your nations capital. The are afraid so they want the angry 20 to 40 year old high and happy rather than frustrated and organizing!! Get guns, keep 100% sober at all times!!! Without your health and your mind you will be lost.
Good luck…..proud Navajo
Washington state..not to D.C.
Dummy.
One of the first things we need to do is quit calling each other “dummies” and stupid and all those unneccesary putdowns. We’re all in the same boat. Some have been here longer than others but we need the new ones, even if they say or ask dumb questions, at least they are here and want to learn and are awakening to what is really going on. We should nurture them and help them not insult them.
Wrong dc has decriminalized marijuana. Do some reading before commenting.
THATS THE PROBLEM D.C.
You people don’t know D.C makes the laws but those laws only exist in D.C. The Constitution Of the United States Ws the Constition For The United States read about the act of 1871
Wow….I love reading this crap !
The biggest terrorism and “terrorists”, that have ever been, have always been a large centralized government! America is taking these known characteristics!
Reading these comments is hillarious, and equally frightening. Living off the grid should be legal.
That means not connected to a power company grid.
But, the paranoid and delusional ,comments from the fringe weirdos, that mention things like FEMA camps, agenda 21, EMP blasts, total choas and breakdown, government conspiracy, collapse, nukes,and others… is just nonsense, and ridiculous. Did these people forget to take their medication before they clicked on submit ? This crap reads better than “The Hunger Games”.
Is everything a government plot?… Maybe if people were less delusional, with utopian views and psychotic anger, the concept of off-grid living would be better accepted by the masses. Reading the comments is an eye opening experience. It is utterly amazing that humans can reach these viewpoints, given the opportunities we have at our disposal: the internet, lessons of history, ethics, and law. Here, there is much to glean…and screen.
There is no universal consensus here, only random rants. It is fascinating to imagine what the bloggers look like….what people they contact frequently, think about them, or what a live conversation with them would be like.
The best part is that it is free….and entertaining. The worst part of it is accepting the fact that people think like they do. It is really scarry. The content here could be the basis for a great made for TV movie.
This is another reason to vote for Romney. The Socialist agenda is openly practiced,selected and promulgated by Obama.
I’m NOT advocating illegal tax avoidance or avoiding property taxes. There are so many ways to LEGALLY reduce taxes, it is insane to try to do it illegally.
But we have a RIGHT to live unbothered by Government as long as we pay our bills. If we select a geographic area without CC and Rs. then we are governed by local ordinances.
We must politically fight against intrusive ordinances. A way to do this is to NOT vote Democrat, picket local Governmental agencies and hire lawyers to assist us.
sanjosemike
Remember Masada. They believed in their freedom enough to die as free men. The government has no control over the dead and they pay no taxes to Caesar.
Okay….mass suicide….W/T/F!
So I guess it is wait till things finish cracking down where I am at then go off to government land in the forest and use camo and do your thing from there. I see and have seen for awhile things that have shown me the signs of whats coming. Government control and prisons or death for those who will not conform. I am sitting here learning survival skills including things that will have a value when things are at it’s worst.
Hunger games ?
Okay Lorena….so, you are going to squat on National Forest or Park Service property, “use camo” and hide ? You think the ‘Government’ is going to control you, with prison camps and death?
Instead of survival skills, why not seek counseling; to sort of…you know…approach reality…it will be okay. There are really good medications now….unlike years ago. No,no,no….the maryjane is just going to make things worse….Have you seen the movie “What about Bob”?…Baby steps…you know, like Dr.Leo Marvin suggested.
I love it…….here, pour chemicals down your throat. That’ll make it better. What a schmuck.
change the name from washingTON to washingNONE!!!
estrogen soy milk for vegan punks…. that soy that turns to pesticide in your gut… in the school lunch line
“no I dont have adhd.. i am just a fuzzy bunny”
whaaatdeeefaaack???
facadism bares the traumatic experience of an alter… what are you trying to prove.. that your the worlds mightiest enemy? what have you got to die for? what have you got to live on….. what are we doing here? watching our friends die
wwwwww/ttttt/fffff/???
bb you wanna come bring me a cloudy day?
whutt daaa faackk….
they want me to drink the soy milk… turn down the porn… and pick up testy pills… oh yah.. and keep taking my ritalin?
wutdafuk….