Depending on where you live, and exactly what you decide to live in, the answer could be yes. A growing number of city and county zoning agencies around the world are implementing ordinances to crack down on off-grid living, and in case after case, they’re making it a crime.
We’ve been covering this fight for over a decade now. From targeting self-reliant homeowners with antiquated zoning laws to forming special code enforcement squads designed to force people back onto the grid, there is a war against self-reliance going on in this country — and depending on the zip code, the government is winning.
What’s changed since we first started writing about this isn’t the war itself. It’s the scale of it. The cases below start with the ones that put this issue on the map. Then we bring you current — because in the last two years alone, this fight has spread from rural homesteads to entire city blocks, and the next battle over who gets to decide how you live on your own land is being fought right now, not in some county courthouse you’ll never hear about, but in the headlines.
Living Off the Grid Is Illegal in Many Areas of the United States
Throughout the United States, government agencies have formed so-called “nuisance abatement teams” designed to intimidate and force off-grid homeowners into giving up their land or abandoning their lifestyle. Believe it or not, people are actually being fined and jailed for choosing to live an off-grid existence.
From Costilla County, Colorado trying to ban people from building off-grid homes or camping on their own land, to the federal government actually trying to make it illegal to live in a tiny house or off-the-grid RV, there are a growing number of agencies trying to regulate this lifestyle out of existence.
While the mainstream media continues to mostly ignore the problem, a handful of independent media outlets and a few stubborn reporters have taken notice. Here’s the record, case by case — the old ones that started it, and the new ones that prove nothing’s slowed down.
Off-Grid Homeowners Intimidated Into Hooking Back Into the Grid
There are literally thousands of examples of people who have been harassed, threatened, fined, and jailed for going off the grid. Here are the cases that matter.
The Deserts of Los Angeles County, California
The deserts of Los Angeles County, California used to be a sort of mecca for those looking to live a more self-reliant lifestyle. But just like so many areas of the country, these off-grid residents have been targeted, arrested, and intimidated into hooking back into the grid.
A few years back, Reason Magazine took a film crew out to one of these secluded desert towns in California and filmed the off-grid residents there. From being threatened with jail time if they didn’t hook back into the grid, to actually being thrown in jail because the county didn’t like the look of their homes or land, the people in the deserts of L.A. County have been terrorized by their own local government.
Instituted in 2006 by Los Angeles County Supervisor Michael Antonovich, the L.A. Board of Supervisors’ Nuisance Abatement Teams have been targeting and jailing residents for victimless misdemeanors and code violations ever since. Code enforcement teams have hit unincorporated areas of L.A. County hard, and local off-gridders are still living without certainty about what the future holds. Residents are scared they may lose not only their homes, but their freedom as well.
The Case of Robin Speronis in Cape Coral, Florida
Robin Speronis tried to go off the grid in Cape Coral, Florida. She disconnected from the city’s water, sewer, and electrical systems, relying instead on solar power and harvested rainwater. The city cited her for violating the International Property Maintenance Code, and a code enforcement officer eventually declared her home “unfit for human habitation” — going so far as to warn that even entering the property would constitute trespassing.
Her case went in front of Special Magistrate Harold Eskin in early 2014. The ruling split the difference in a way that still tells you everything you need to know about how these fights actually go: Eskin ruled Speronis could legally live without being hooked up to electrical power, but that she was still required to connect to the city’s water system — whether she used the water or not. Her solar setup would also need city approval. Speronis was given until March 18, 2014 to comply or face $50-a-day fines.
She didn’t comply. She appealed instead, with help from The Rutherford Institute, arguing that property owners retain a basic measure of sovereignty over what happens on their own land. By later that year, her case file listed 48 separate code violations, she’d racked up nearly $13,000 in combined water, sewer, and code enforcement liens, and the city had pulled her certificate of occupancy entirely — meaning that, legally, she could no longer be in her own house. Speronis kept fighting anyway, and her case became one of the most cited examples in the entire off-grid legal fight, cropping up in homesteading forums and prepper circles for years afterward.
Veteran Who Fought for Our Country, Thrown in Jail for Living “Off the Grid”
In November 2016, Tyler Truitt — a Marine Corps veteran who’d gone on to work at Redstone Arsenal — was thrown in jail for violating a city zoning ordinance in Huntsville, Alabama.
“We live out here off the grid, 100 percent self-sustaining,” Truitt said at the time. “I basically made all my utilities: I have my solar panels, I have my rainwater collection and stuff. I took an oath that I would support and defend the constitution and the freedoms that entails, and I really feel like those are being trampled upon.”
The city gave Truitt and his girlfriend until June 1 to bring their trailer up to code. They refused, and instead filed a civil suit against the city, challenging the ordinances directly. “We’ve yet to have any of those arguments be heard in court, so that’s what we’re trying to do with the civil suit,” Truitt told reporters. “How much is this fight worth to them? I know what it means to me. It’s my home, it’s everything, and I’m not moving the house.”
City officials didn’t budge either. “The purpose behind these requirements is public safety,” said Kelly Schrimsher, communications director for Huntsville’s mayor. “This includes ensuring that occupants of a residential dwelling have safe, potable, running water and electricity, particularly in the wintertime.”
Here’s the update nobody likes to print: Truitt lost. A judge ultimately ruled that he did not have the right to live off the grid on his own land, and Truitt was given just 14 days to either move his home or face further legal action from the city. It’s one of the clearest, most direct court rulings on record stating, in plain terms, that off-grid living can be deemed illegal — not because of safety violations on the ground, but because a permanent off-grid setup didn’t satisfy the city’s definition of a “permanent” utility source.
“We live out here off the grid, 100 percent self-sustaining,” Truitt said. “So I basically made all my utilities: I have my solar panels, I have my rainwater collection and stuff. ” took an oath that I would support and defend the constitution and the freedoms that entails, and I really feel like those are being trampled upon.”
Is It Really Your Land? According to Most Zoning Officials, You Need to Follow Their Rules
On top of using size restrictions to limit what off-grid homeowners can live in, towns throughout the U.S. also target mobile homes directly. In many areas, houses are required to be built on a permanent foundation and hooked up to public utilities before they’re considered legal dwellings at all.
Unfortunately, that piece of freedom you thought you bought might not be so free. If your land isn’t zoned for recreational vehicle living, off-grid living, or camping, you may be in for some serious trouble — and as the cases below show, that trouble didn’t stay in small rural counties. It’s gone fully mainstream.
2025–2026 Update: The Fight Has Moved to the Cities
For most of this article’s history, the off-grid fight played out in rural counties — places like Costilla County, Colorado, or unincorporated stretches of the California desert, where a handful of homesteaders squared off against a small zoning office nobody outside the county had heard of. That’s no longer where the biggest battles are happening.
San Francisco Bans Long-Term RV Living Citywide
In 2025, San Francisco passed sweeping legislation banning long-term RV living across the entire city. Under the new rules, any vehicle longer than 22 feet or taller than 7 feet is now restricted from parking in any one spot for more than two hours, citywide. RV dwellers who had already registered with the city as of May 2025 were given a narrow exemption — but only if they agreed to accept city housing assistance and give up their RV when their turn came.
Mayor Daniel Lurie set aside $13 million over two fiscal years for housing subsidies, outreach, enforcement, and a vehicle buyback program that pays RV owners $175 per foot to surrender their rigs. “This legislation combines compassion with accountability,” Lurie said when introducing the measure.
For the families actually living it, “compassion” looked like something else. Residents on Winston Drive near Lake Merced — many of them working immigrant families with children, using their RVs as the only housing they could afford in one of the most expensive cities in the country — described the rollout as a mass eviction. “Sweeps are not only a means to displace people from a sidewalk, it is a means to break down communities and break down political power,” one community organizer told reporters. One mother, who’d built a fragile routine of stability for her kids, put it simply: “You adapt to a place. We’ve already adapted to the calmness here. So going to a different place is difficult because you’re not sure if you can trust it.”
This isn’t a fringe case in a desert town anymore. This is the policy of one of the largest cities in America.
California Passes a Law Letting Counties Seize Your RV
It gets worse. In late 2025, California passed Assembly Bill 630, authored by Assemblymember Mark Gonzalez, which authorizes Los Angeles and Alameda counties to run a pilot program — active from January 2026 through January 2030 — that lets the counties “streamline the removal” of RVs deemed inoperable or abandoned, so long as the vehicle is valued at $4,000 or less.
Here’s the part that should bother anyone who’s ever lived in a vehicle by choice or necessity: the law applies even if someone is currently living in that RV. Advocates for unhoused and vehicle-dwelling residents warn the law will make life even more unstable for the people who depend on these vehicles as shelter, since once a county seizes and tows a unit, the owner frequently can’t pay the storage and towing fees required to get it back — and they’re left with nothing.
Not Every County Is Going the Same Direction — Nevada County, California
It’s worth being straight with you: not every local government is moving to crush off-grid and alternative living. Nevada County, California — where living in an RV has technically been illegal for years, despite an estimated 1,000-plus residents reportedly doing it anyway, quietly, under the radar — spent 2025 debating an ordinance that would do the opposite of San Francisco’s approach and legalize RV living on private property.
“What people don’t realize is that people are already doing it,” said longtime resident and advocate Tom Durkin, who has lived in a trailer on a friend’s property since 2018. “We tend to be very discreet because we’re paranoid, ya know, don’t want to get reported.” Durkin has spent more than six years pushing the county to recognize alternative housing as legitimate. “I’ve got excellent credit, no criminal history, I’m well educated, and I couldn’t find a place to live,” he said.
A county survey found 72 percent of respondents favored the new ordinance, and by September 2025 the county had received roughly 1,900 public comments on the draft — one of the largest public responses county staff say they’ve ever seen on a single proposal. The Board of Supervisors held three public hearings throughout 2025 before bringing the ordinance to a final vote, and it passed by a narrow 3–2 margin. It’s a real exception to the trend, and proof that this fight isn’t lost everywhere — but it took years of organizing by residents who, frankly, shouldn’t have had to fight for the right to live quietly on land they already had access to.
The Pattern Holds: Regulation by Attrition
What ties Cape Coral, Huntsville, Costilla County, and San Francisco together isn’t a single law. It’s a strategy. Few of these jurisdictions pass a law that says “off-grid living is illegal” outright — that would be too obvious, and too easy to fight in court. Instead, they regulate the specific pieces that make off-grid living possible: water hookups, RV parking duration, minimum dwelling sizes, “permanent” power source requirements, certificate-of-occupancy rules that quietly demand utility connections. Stack enough of those requirements on top of each other, and off-grid living becomes illegal in practice without ever being illegal on paper.
That’s not a conspiracy theory. It’s just how these ordinances are written, case after case, decade after decade — and it’s exactly why this fight keeps resurfacing in new cities under new names, even after the old fights are forgotten.
Where Things Actually Stand If You’re Thinking About Going Off-Grid
To be fair to the other side of this for a second: off-grid living is not, technically, illegal in any of the 50 states. What trips people up — Speronis, Truitt, the residents of Costilla County, the families on Winston Drive — is never the broad concept of self-sufficiency. It’s the local, granular stuff: water rights, septic permitting, RV occupancy duration limits, certificate-of-occupancy requirements, and “permanent dwelling” definitions that vary wildly from one county line to the next.
A few things are worth knowing if you’re seriously considering this lifestyle in 2026:
Zoning is everything. Many counties — especially in states like Missouri, Montana, and parts of Tennessee — still have no zoning ordinance at all, or only loose agricultural zoning that doesn’t restrict how you power or plumb your home. Other counties, even in off-grid-friendly states, enforce code as aggressively as any city. You have to check county by county, not just state by state.
RV and tiny-house living occupies a legal gray zone almost everywhere. Whether a structure counts as a legal dwelling, a recreational vehicle, or an illegal accessory structure depends on foundation type, square footage, and local adoption of building code provisions like IRC Appendix Q — and that adoption is inconsistent even within a single state.
Certificate-of-occupancy rules are the quiet killer. Even in areas with lax zoning, getting a legal C of O often requires connection to municipal water, sewer, or electric — which defeats the purpose for a lot of people trying to go off-grid in the first place.
Federal incentives have actually expanded. The extended Inflation Reduction Act credits still offer a 30 percent tax credit on solar, battery storage, and qualifying off-grid water systems, even as local enforcement has tightened in places like San Francisco. It’s a strange split-screen: federal policy nudging people toward energy independence while local code enforcement teams push the other direction.
It’s a sad day when living on your own land becomes a crime. Please spread the word, because these cases aren’t slowing down — they’re spreading to bigger cities, bigger budgets, and bigger headlines.
Land of the free and home of the brave my ASS. Economic slavery is at hand, you will all be serfs to corporations and their puppet government. It will be a crime to be poor, it will be a crime to live off of your own land without any corporate “sponsorship”. YOU ARE NOW A NUMBER IN THEIR LEDGERS!!
This whole building code thing has gotten a way out of hand and you can blame it on the civil court system allowing ridiculous litigation because some jerk bought a home that wasn’t up to “code” and wanted something for nothing when he could have paid for a pre-purchase inspection and went and found a different house. WHY IN THE WORLD DO I NEED A PERMIT TO PULL AND REPLACE WOODEN DECORATIVE TRIM ALONG MY WALLS!?!?!?! Or a bedroom door that the hinges have gotten a little beat up and the rest of the jam is a little shoddy. I mean really, the replacement opens and closes but no they want their $45 permit fee to replace a $60 door and if you get caught doing it without the permit you have to pay the permit fee and a fine. Pretty soon in order to shop at HOME DEPOT you will need to show your permit at the door before you are allowed to buy anything. Or even better, locally you already have to buy a permit from the city to sell your house and in order to get the permit you have to have the home inspected and have to bring it up to code before they will issue you a sale permit which on average runs about $6000 to fix all the violations with work that must be done by licensed contractors. THIS ARTICLE ABOUT THESE FOLKS’ PLIGHT INFURIATES ME TO THE CORE OF MY BEING!!!
You must be in Cali or NY or some big city if it’s that bad.
kloathis:
Think you might be mistaken. There isn’t requirement for permitting on repair work. Ask your building department to provide you with the code citation or municipal ordinance showing that. They must provide you with the citation, that’s law everywhere I know, although not necessarily with a copy of it- you can look it up on your own. Call a local licensed architect and ask them to explain it to you if you are getting mismatched/confusing info. A decent architect will gladly talk to you for 5 minutes over the phone without needing some kind of fee.
While permitting fees and indeed most of ‘what’ requires a certain permit can be altered and changed from State to State and municipality to municipality, one thing is universal -or so I think and could be wrong in a few isolated/unique cases- permits are only required when there is a matter of life safety or technical prowess. Permitting is not a tax, it is a service that is designed to protect the public and those businesses taking on construction tasks.
For example, doing work on your domestic incoming water line could be bad if you don’t know what you are doing. You may inadvertently set it up so that water will backflow into the main and contaminate the entire system from your point of entry down. Might not sound like a big concern, but there have been plenty of cases of septic water leaking out to water supplies. Pretty unsafe risk to the public, so you’ll need to get a permit for that. It’s a hard case to prove concern of safety or other reason for trim (new or replacing). Same with doors and any other essentially cosmetic work. Research the International Code Council who are the people that put together the codes the majority of States adopt.
Also, not sure what State you are in, but my understanding is that building departments are not paid for by tax dollars. They only have as much money as they generate in fees to pay salaries, etc. This is most likely the motivation behind the inspector demanding permits for work ordinarily not requiring it. Contact your State Department of Consumer Affairs, which at least in States I know about, handle the oversight of local building departments. You can ask them if your construction official can do that and if not file a complaint in writing, then demand a refund.
Best of luck, for I believe you have been wronged.
just make your home power not grid compatable. if everything in the house runs of 12volt. no problem
The irony is with all this demanding for us to hook up, I’ve learned a few things. If you go out far enough from their lines they won’t demand you hook up, because they don’t want to run their lines but so far off the road. They will demand you run line if you want power from them, so just don’t do that and no problem. You asked them to run power and they demanded you pay for the line and poles to the road, now you are free to take option “B” and instead use your own power plant.
That’s illegal. You can’t get a permit for that.
The pioneers did okay without permits!
Our county told us that because my father owned the land 22 acres and i owned the mobile home if my father so much as changed the door knob on my trailer there would be a 5 thousand dollar fine and a 250.00 dollar a day fine until a licensed contractor corrected the work.We live in fl.and it has never been legal to live on your land in anything except a mobile home or site built house,no r.v.`s or campers.i feel as if i am chocking to death.Also there may be an insurance scam going on.Insurance company`s cancel your home owners ins. for small reasons so you will lose your mortgage and if you can`t pay off your mortgage then you lose your home.Farm Bureau canceled my parents because they have dogs.Very well fenced house dogs.and today my sisters was canceled because they said they have to many credit cards even though they have nothing on them except a refrigerator at Lowes.You can`t get insurance unless you have credit and if you use the credit you get your homeowners ins.canceled !
Thanks for letting us know about Florida.
Oh one other thing municipalities have been doing to increase revenues, require a construction official inspection at the sale of a house. The reasons for that are to check for any work that wasn’t permitted and not just collect the building department fee that would have been, but to reflect the improvements at the tax assessors office. Redo your bathroom and the tax assessor wants to know about it. They get updates from the building department.
Glad I live in Kentucky. My house met the code in 1901 when it was built. All the extra sounds to me that they want to fill the coffers with more of the tax payers money. The city of Lexington, Kentucky is as bad. My uncle needed a permit to add a roof onto a garage that had the walls already up, just needed a roof on it and added a concrete floor. After 3 inspections and several permits later he hired a lawyer and got back alot of his money. Sad day for Americans.
Thank you thank you thank you Rob for posting this! I would encourage anyone who finds this disgusting to email the green blog editor at the NY Times and ask him to get involved as well. The address is as follows: greenblog@nytimes.com Regardless of what you think of the entity that is the NY Times, when they write about something then we can get the right people onto the hot seat and get this kind of thing stopped cold. This is ridiculous, and it is completely disgusting…we CAN get it stopped if enough people spread this across the Internet, folks. Please do your part and email this to anyone and everyone. Thanks again for passing it on, Rob.
Looks like the days of “we the people” are over and its now “we the government”. in which case this is unconstitutional, and the constitutions stands for nothing. having said that……sounds to me like we are now under a “dictatorship”…….good luck “citisins…of these united states LAND OF THE FREE” kind of makes me feel illegal aliens have more rights…..
Maybe we need to stop just talking about it, and get out there and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!
We can’t keep putting up with this bs from the government! They need to get the message. This is just getting worse!
OK, OK, OK. I hear you, am with you and keep saying the same thing. What is your objective and how do we meet the goal. People are so plugged in and turned on they can not see or differentiate the truth from a lie. So how do you propose to get moving when you have no momentum?
I say this all the time. No one listens. What do we need to do? Every one says vote, vote, vote them out but I’m sick of voting and not having my vote count for anything or make a difference. I think the problem is too many people willing to give up freedom for a hand out from the government. So what do the ones like me and you guys do? I need answers.
” You say you want a revolution? ” John Lennon. The libeltards hate it when I quote one of their own.
@ John :
every revolution needs finance.
So it’s always the big money that deals the cards…
Thank God I believe the Truth shall set us free, ‘cuz I don’t see anything else setting us free.
Rommel ?
You are not going to be serfs of the corporations. This has nothing to do with corporations but rather the long arm of the government. It’s called statism and you are obviously very uneducated about what that means. If you need more help, start listening or reading some Mark Levin. He is an expert on constitutional matters.
This is not about the constitution anymore. Those principals are gone forever. It is now about survival once the Government is shut down and gone. You like everyone else will be left to your own devices to manage to stay underground long enough so you are not caught up in the ensuing maylay. We are at risk right now for even mentioning this. Getting off the grid means loosing touch with every communication device you can be tied to. You are tracked by micro chip implanted in your tires. The list of things used to track you is incredible, including that stupid cell phone you can not put down. Now they have medical screeings they just came out with to tell you of conditions you may have for a low cost, don’t go for it. You are giving more information away. If you are healthy do your best to stay that way. Turn off the lights and say good night.
Maybe we need a massive solar storm to chill the air for a few decades, let the gubmint submit to the will of the people.
right, or a zombie outbrake or something lol.
The question people is really: Are you going to do anything about it? Sure we can all wax intellectual about all of these horrid things happening to us, but why doesn’t anyone actually stand up and do something about it?
My land lord can’t even walk onto the property I own without notice, and even then I have to be around for that to happen. You know why? I changed the damn locks on everything myself. Simple step, but it allows me to grow food as I wish and do what I want within the warehouse I live in.
As for the greater populace, I’m still up in the air on how I’m gonna make my line in the sand. I’m trying to do it through the proper channels but we’ll see how that works out.
What can we do? I want to do something! Im sick of their “divide and conquer” lets come together! We are so much stronger in number and there are so many of us on the same page just on this website alone. I feel we need to find a way to come together before our freedom to communicate with each other is taken out of the equation as well. Instead of sharing our annoyance and opinions, lets talk action! What are we going to do? This s%*t has gotten completely out of hand and its only getting worse.
I was so happy to find this page. I want to thank every last one of you for renewing my faith in humanity. I was getting really depressed thinking i would never find anyone like you all who understands what needs to be done. We need to build our own network for communicating with each other online and off. We get organized with plans that give a detailed layout of the country. So we can come together from anywhere and fight as one unit. We out number them so we come up with a strategy everyone agrees with. The internet will not be around forever, do this now. Revelutions are bloody but this something worth dying for. When we start with non-compliance, they will make examples of us, to control the sheep with. At this time we make examples of them
sorry about that I accidentally pressed the wrong button on my tablet, I hate those stylus things. But anyway I was going to say we fight fire with fire. For example non-compliance works if no one continues to use ID, birth certificates didn’t exist before 1933. No more of our children being born with these things making them aligned with the country of their birth and property of it’s government. We can do this people, just start sharing info, like on your local cops so we know what we are dealing with. Think the “art of war” and military strategy. This is a war and we can win. Only trust those who show signs of thinking for themselves like the people on this, it does matter if you agree with everything they say at this time. We will reach a common ground latter on what is the best approach. We just don’t want any sheep sneaking their way in with minds still dependent on big brother. I’m all over the internet so look for me, take care of your selves all of you. Put aside petty differences to crush the common foe. I love you all.
I completely agtee with you guys point of view and philosophy. I usually find myself thinking much the same thing and I have many usefull skills yet have found that at 35 I still see no way to do anything about it. where can we all get together and start utilizing each others skills for the betterment of everyone ? please let me know.
After reading this entire post, I am in full agreement. I used to be a contractor in Florida and the code laws have become so ridiculous that its just not worth it anymore, so I moved and changed careers. But if anyone wants advise on something to DO about it.. first thing would be get out and vote for Ron Paul as president. He will stop this bs quickly.. as well as all the other totalitarian bs we are forced to live under.. Stay strong and united friends..
Seeking another survivalist interested in
treking the Appalachian trail.
I’m in SE TN and want to implement survival tactics and ideas.
7/31/12
i live here in the smokies and i was thinking the same thing.
There are no “proper channels” in times of catastrophy. It will be every man, woman and child for himself. You got the picture and now you know the rest of the story. There ain’t a damn thing you can do about it except for keep your eye on the sky and watch out for yourself. Safe travels and keep your wits about you, you are going to need them.
Unfortunately, the constitution gives no protection to citizens of the United States, or people who say they’re residents, drivers, passengers, or employed. These latter are words of art, with trick legal meanings that admit to your slavery. It’s better to be a U.S. National/State citizen. Famguard dot org has more info, and some remedies. I have no connection to them and there are many other sources.
i have not spent or earned a single dollar in over 2 years, thats what im doing. 1 result of that so far has been, my family members have been acussed of hiding my death! no joke. i had to appear in court to explain why im not a functioning member or tax payer. it was also implied i my be a terrorist!!!!! im a 29yr old from ct born and raised! never been in trouble and never drew atention. but i believe my social security or “slave number” as i call it has led them to me and now they want others to hate on me to ether make me conform or die is how i feel and just how it seems!
I find your story extremely interesting…although worrying.
So…if you “drop off the grid”, have no need of their money or their provided electricity, water, etc, and just basically mind your own buisness and live your life….then they seem to think you’re a threat? Yeah, I can see that… *looks confused*
Dig deeper, friend. Don’t let them get to you. Teach others how to live like you do and spread what you just posted here as far as you can.
It’s a simple yet important message!
very scary story, prove it though, show the paperwork they sent you to appear in court…
Until Americans stop relying on government courts to settle disputes between citizens and government its self, this type of abuse will continue. The only thing to stop this problem that is happening nation wide is to start armed rebellion. The government has way too much incredible power over the people. To live in a congested area and have codes and laws and regulations to cover safety, and health issues is one thing..but to live on your own property in the least populated part of a county away from water sheds highways and other things that effect public safety and health is another. And these property owners have the right to live on their own property that they pay for and pay county taxes on without government interference.
“Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class – involving high meat intake, use of fossil fuels, appliances, home and work air conditioning, and suburban housing are not sustainable.” Maurice Strong, Secretary General of the UN’s Earth Summit, 1992.
NUKE THE UN AND GET THEM THE HELL OUT OF THE US.
OMG…..and more importantly…WTF!
that’s agenda21 get everyone on a vegan diet and living in high rise smart grid towers in cities with smart refrigerators that watch what you eat, rfid tracking all the food, the bags you put them in at the grocery store, etc. they have the technolgoy it just takes a couple years to implement it. and in the areas they don’t see any reason to bother to implement it, stage a fake war or natural disaster or nuclear meltdown to force people out.
that is some seriously messed up stuff. its like a childhood nightmare, having everything taken from you with no control. our government is corrupt, and will eventually turn into an altered version of communism. we all work for the good of the already rich. some bs if you ask me.
Interesting that an “off grid” website “requires” any comment to have a name and email address.
In any event, I wonder if the Center for Constitutional Rights and the ACLU should get involved in these cases? The reality is that it’s really not the “codes” that the country is going after, it’s getting rid of anybody that does not conform with their idea of what everybody should look like. It’s a dangerous precedent, when a county government forces it’s residents to in essence, become android like in order to be allowed to live on their own property! Individuality is being completely eliminated! What might be next, forcing us to wear the same uniforms?
I live in a small area of a city (on the very edge of a city) that was off the grid up until about 12 years ago. Every house here was hand built by the original owners, and many people who still live here are the decendants of the original owners. Sure, some of the houses are pretty funky looking, and some don’t even look like they could fit a bed in it–but that’s the beauty of this neighborhood–it’s uniqueness! I really hate the neighborhoods where every single house looks exaclty the same–it’s creepy.
I know that if the city would ever decide to check all the codes of the houses here, there would be tons of code violations–but one thing is certain. Everybody here takes great pride and care of their homes and property, and there has never been one instance where someone’s home collapsed on them, or any other dangerous incident related to “safety codes”. These houses were not put together with bubble gum, they are solid structures, despite their uniqueness.
I certainly hope the people featured in this film can get the legal help they need to be able to keep their homes and their land!
It seems that the only ones “free” in this country are the mega corporations!
Here you go. You are exactly right on one point. You will be forced, coerced and exiled if you do not “wear the same uniform”. You have heard this before and here it is, on the brink of madness ready to unfold right before your very eyes. Get ready, stay focused on what YOU need to do, do it and be quiet for a very long time. We have been warned and it is time to heed this warning.
the uniforms are already in affect! i mean come on,i worked for a big electronic manufacturer for about 3years and i was great at my job. i started at the bottom and they realized i could handle more so they showed me many new things in that time. the last 6months i was there i became a trainer to teach others on new technologies and developments. then the build came under new managment. now before i say more know that im not for lack of better word, nerdy lookin. wierd hair big holes in the ears, tattoos and such right. this new boss without second though fires me and anyone that didnt look like they belonged in a lab, not for there lack of skill. i train my blood brother to do what he does now and i felt just before i got let go that no he was not up to par but hey he looks “nerdy” sooo…. so yes uniforms are in affect!
You would think broke ass California would be happy people want to live there.
All the gang warfare and the cops are holding moms at gunpoint as they ransack their homes. Macho.
The one thing we need to remember is the people still outnumber the government a few million to one. A national civil disobedience day is in order for a warm up.
Count me in. Set a date. Lets do it. The “rat race” is about to completely consume me. I’m ready to leave it behind for clean, simple, sustainable living and am tired of everyone who says it can’t be done. That includes the government, medical establishment, tax collecting entities, credit agencies who say if you aren’t in debt, you have no “credit.” I want no part of any of it.
I like you Tammy. I’m single too. / Christian in Monterey.
i more than second all of that :) the problem is finding land to live free on it seems to me.
to right the people are more. take your arms and storm them.
Umm,,, October 30th is Mischief Day/Night.
Thats been going on since 1790
My first thought is why & how were these laws passed. Money going from the companies who profit from “The grid” to government officials campaign funds. We have let our Government be bought away from us, and We The People get nothing in return.
So its better to make these people homeless & force them to go on welfare? As a taxpayer I don’t feel that is economically viable. Isn’t what the government doing considered racketeering. We do not live in a free country anymore… unless your an illegal collecting government assistance.
No problem here. Very soon, we will all be ‘living off the grid’ as there will be no grid.
EVEN IF THERE IS NO GRID JUST FIND A PLACE FOR YOURSELF ANYWHERE MAKE IS YOUR HABITAT EVEN IF THEY TAKE YOU OFF GRID AND TAKE OVER THE LAND GIVE IT TO THEM BUT YOU CAN FIND YOUR PLACE TO LIVE
yes to the legal approach, people fought too hard in past centuries for their rights lets not give up that strength our greatest protection. READ THE GODDAMN CODE.
Goodness this is fast. Agenda 21 of the giant 2,500 page Obama Health Care Bill, passed by Congress so then we can see what is in it! Surprise, Agenda 21 is buried in there. It coincides with a UN ruling on Rural land that can be confiscated. We ain’t seen anything yet! Heartsick
why do i get a feeling that this is somehow tied right into Agenda 21? its either that or back room deals to make the rich richer.
where i live in the Bay Area, you cant do a thing to your home or property without pulling a permit. the county wants a permit for everything and will red flag you for the smallest infraction. this is how they make their money and they want more and more.
If born in a hospital, you are only free for a few hours at best. Then the parents are threatened by “authorities” if they do not get a debt certificate for their child they go to jail and the baby gets sold on the human slave market by the CPS and their funder Dyncorp. Freedom is inside you, but outside the rabbit hole it’s just an illusion.
WTF…%$#@&*?