Is Living Off the Grid a Crime? The War on Off-Grid Living

Depending on where you live, and exactly what you decide to live in, the answer could be yes. A growing number of city and county zoning agencies around the world are implementing ordinances to crack down on off-grid living, and in case after case, they’re making it a crime.

We’ve been covering this fight for over a decade now. From targeting self-reliant homeowners with antiquated zoning laws to forming special code enforcement squads designed to force people back onto the grid, there is a war against self-reliance going on in this country — and depending on the zip code, the government is winning.

What’s changed since we first started writing about this isn’t the war itself. It’s the scale of it. The cases below start with the ones that put this issue on the map. Then we bring you current — because in the last two years alone, this fight has spread from rural homesteads to entire city blocks, and the next battle over who gets to decide how you live on your own land is being fought right now, not in some county courthouse you’ll never hear about, but in the headlines.

Living Off the Grid Is Illegal in Many Areas of the United States

Throughout the United States, government agencies have formed so-called “nuisance abatement teams” designed to intimidate and force off-grid homeowners into giving up their land or abandoning their lifestyle. Believe it or not, people are actually being fined and jailed for choosing to live an off-grid existence.

From Costilla County, Colorado trying to ban people from building off-grid homes or camping on their own land, to the federal government actually trying to make it illegal to live in a tiny house or off-the-grid RV, there are a growing number of agencies trying to regulate this lifestyle out of existence.

While the mainstream media continues to mostly ignore the problem, a handful of independent media outlets and a few stubborn reporters have taken notice. Here’s the record, case by case — the old ones that started it, and the new ones that prove nothing’s slowed down.

Off-Grid Homeowners Intimidated Into Hooking Back Into the Grid

There are literally thousands of examples of people who have been harassed, threatened, fined, and jailed for going off the grid. Here are the cases that matter.

The Deserts of Los Angeles County, California

The deserts of Los Angeles County, California used to be a sort of mecca for those looking to live a more self-reliant lifestyle. But just like so many areas of the country, these off-grid residents have been targeted, arrested, and intimidated into hooking back into the grid.

A few years back, Reason Magazine took a film crew out to one of these secluded desert towns in California and filmed the off-grid residents there. From being threatened with jail time if they didn’t hook back into the grid, to actually being thrown in jail because the county didn’t like the look of their homes or land, the people in the deserts of L.A. County have been terrorized by their own local government.

Instituted in 2006 by Los Angeles County Supervisor Michael Antonovich, the L.A. Board of Supervisors’ Nuisance Abatement Teams have been targeting and jailing residents for victimless misdemeanors and code violations ever since. Code enforcement teams have hit unincorporated areas of L.A. County hard, and local off-gridders are still living without certainty about what the future holds. Residents are scared they may lose not only their homes, but their freedom as well.

The Case of Robin Speronis in Cape Coral, Florida

Robin Speronis tried to go off the grid in Cape Coral, Florida. She disconnected from the city’s water, sewer, and electrical systems, relying instead on solar power and harvested rainwater. The city cited her for violating the International Property Maintenance Code, and a code enforcement officer eventually declared her home “unfit for human habitation” — going so far as to warn that even entering the property would constitute trespassing.

Her case went in front of Special Magistrate Harold Eskin in early 2014. The ruling split the difference in a way that still tells you everything you need to know about how these fights actually go: Eskin ruled Speronis could legally live without being hooked up to electrical power, but that she was still required to connect to the city’s water system — whether she used the water or not. Her solar setup would also need city approval. Speronis was given until March 18, 2014 to comply or face $50-a-day fines.

She didn’t comply. She appealed instead, with help from The Rutherford Institute, arguing that property owners retain a basic measure of sovereignty over what happens on their own land. By later that year, her case file listed 48 separate code violations, she’d racked up nearly $13,000 in combined water, sewer, and code enforcement liens, and the city had pulled her certificate of occupancy entirely — meaning that, legally, she could no longer be in her own house. Speronis kept fighting anyway, and her case became one of the most cited examples in the entire off-grid legal fight, cropping up in homesteading forums and prepper circles for years afterward.

Veteran Who Fought for Our Country, Thrown in Jail for Living “Off the Grid”

In November 2016, Tyler Truitt — a Marine Corps veteran who’d gone on to work at Redstone Arsenal — was thrown in jail for violating a city zoning ordinance in Huntsville, Alabama.

“We live out here off the grid, 100 percent self-sustaining,” Truitt said at the time. “I basically made all my utilities: I have my solar panels, I have my rainwater collection and stuff. I took an oath that I would support and defend the constitution and the freedoms that entails, and I really feel like those are being trampled upon.”

The city gave Truitt and his girlfriend until June 1 to bring their trailer up to code. They refused, and instead filed a civil suit against the city, challenging the ordinances directly. “We’ve yet to have any of those arguments be heard in court, so that’s what we’re trying to do with the civil suit,” Truitt told reporters. “How much is this fight worth to them? I know what it means to me. It’s my home, it’s everything, and I’m not moving the house.”

City officials didn’t budge either. “The purpose behind these requirements is public safety,” said Kelly Schrimsher, communications director for Huntsville’s mayor. “This includes ensuring that occupants of a residential dwelling have safe, potable, running water and electricity, particularly in the wintertime.”

Here’s the update nobody likes to print: Truitt lost. A judge ultimately ruled that he did not have the right to live off the grid on his own land, and Truitt was given just 14 days to either move his home or face further legal action from the city. It’s one of the clearest, most direct court rulings on record stating, in plain terms, that off-grid living can be deemed illegal — not because of safety violations on the ground, but because a permanent off-grid setup didn’t satisfy the city’s definition of a “permanent” utility source.

“We live out here off the grid, 100 percent self-sustaining,” Truitt said. “So I basically made all my utilities: I have my solar panels, I have my rainwater collection and stuff. ” took an oath that I would support and defend the constitution and the freedoms that entails, and I really feel like those are being trampled upon.”

Is It Really Your Land? According to Most Zoning Officials, You Need to Follow Their Rules

On top of using size restrictions to limit what off-grid homeowners can live in, towns throughout the U.S. also target mobile homes directly. In many areas, houses are required to be built on a permanent foundation and hooked up to public utilities before they’re considered legal dwellings at all.

Unfortunately, that piece of freedom you thought you bought might not be so free. If your land isn’t zoned for recreational vehicle living, off-grid living, or camping, you may be in for some serious trouble — and as the cases below show, that trouble didn’t stay in small rural counties. It’s gone fully mainstream.

2025–2026 Update: The Fight Has Moved to the Cities

For most of this article’s history, the off-grid fight played out in rural counties — places like Costilla County, Colorado, or unincorporated stretches of the California desert, where a handful of homesteaders squared off against a small zoning office nobody outside the county had heard of. That’s no longer where the biggest battles are happening.

San Francisco Bans Long-Term RV Living Citywide

In 2025, San Francisco passed sweeping legislation banning long-term RV living across the entire city. Under the new rules, any vehicle longer than 22 feet or taller than 7 feet is now restricted from parking in any one spot for more than two hours, citywide. RV dwellers who had already registered with the city as of May 2025 were given a narrow exemption — but only if they agreed to accept city housing assistance and give up their RV when their turn came.

Mayor Daniel Lurie set aside $13 million over two fiscal years for housing subsidies, outreach, enforcement, and a vehicle buyback program that pays RV owners $175 per foot to surrender their rigs. “This legislation combines compassion with accountability,” Lurie said when introducing the measure.

For the families actually living it, “compassion” looked like something else. Residents on Winston Drive near Lake Merced — many of them working immigrant families with children, using their RVs as the only housing they could afford in one of the most expensive cities in the country — described the rollout as a mass eviction. “Sweeps are not only a means to displace people from a sidewalk, it is a means to break down communities and break down political power,” one community organizer told reporters. One mother, who’d built a fragile routine of stability for her kids, put it simply: “You adapt to a place. We’ve already adapted to the calmness here. So going to a different place is difficult because you’re not sure if you can trust it.”

This isn’t a fringe case in a desert town anymore. This is the policy of one of the largest cities in America.

California Passes a Law Letting Counties Seize Your RV

It gets worse. In late 2025, California passed Assembly Bill 630, authored by Assemblymember Mark Gonzalez, which authorizes Los Angeles and Alameda counties to run a pilot program — active from January 2026 through January 2030 — that lets the counties “streamline the removal” of RVs deemed inoperable or abandoned, so long as the vehicle is valued at $4,000 or less.

Here’s the part that should bother anyone who’s ever lived in a vehicle by choice or necessity: the law applies even if someone is currently living in that RV. Advocates for unhoused and vehicle-dwelling residents warn the law will make life even more unstable for the people who depend on these vehicles as shelter, since once a county seizes and tows a unit, the owner frequently can’t pay the storage and towing fees required to get it back — and they’re left with nothing.

Not Every County Is Going the Same Direction — Nevada County, California

It’s worth being straight with you: not every local government is moving to crush off-grid and alternative living. Nevada County, California — where living in an RV has technically been illegal for years, despite an estimated 1,000-plus residents reportedly doing it anyway, quietly, under the radar — spent 2025 debating an ordinance that would do the opposite of San Francisco’s approach and legalize RV living on private property.

“What people don’t realize is that people are already doing it,” said longtime resident and advocate Tom Durkin, who has lived in a trailer on a friend’s property since 2018. “We tend to be very discreet because we’re paranoid, ya know, don’t want to get reported.” Durkin has spent more than six years pushing the county to recognize alternative housing as legitimate. “I’ve got excellent credit, no criminal history, I’m well educated, and I couldn’t find a place to live,” he said.

A county survey found 72 percent of respondents favored the new ordinance, and by September 2025 the county had received roughly 1,900 public comments on the draft — one of the largest public responses county staff say they’ve ever seen on a single proposal. The Board of Supervisors held three public hearings throughout 2025 before bringing the ordinance to a final vote, and it passed by a narrow 3–2 margin. It’s a real exception to the trend, and proof that this fight isn’t lost everywhere — but it took years of organizing by residents who, frankly, shouldn’t have had to fight for the right to live quietly on land they already had access to.

The Pattern Holds: Regulation by Attrition

What ties Cape Coral, Huntsville, Costilla County, and San Francisco together isn’t a single law. It’s a strategy. Few of these jurisdictions pass a law that says “off-grid living is illegal” outright — that would be too obvious, and too easy to fight in court. Instead, they regulate the specific pieces that make off-grid living possible: water hookups, RV parking duration, minimum dwelling sizes, “permanent” power source requirements, certificate-of-occupancy rules that quietly demand utility connections. Stack enough of those requirements on top of each other, and off-grid living becomes illegal in practice without ever being illegal on paper.

That’s not a conspiracy theory. It’s just how these ordinances are written, case after case, decade after decade — and it’s exactly why this fight keeps resurfacing in new cities under new names, even after the old fights are forgotten.

Where Things Actually Stand If You’re Thinking About Going Off-Grid

To be fair to the other side of this for a second: off-grid living is not, technically, illegal in any of the 50 states. What trips people up — Speronis, Truitt, the residents of Costilla County, the families on Winston Drive — is never the broad concept of self-sufficiency. It’s the local, granular stuff: water rights, septic permitting, RV occupancy duration limits, certificate-of-occupancy requirements, and “permanent dwelling” definitions that vary wildly from one county line to the next.

A few things are worth knowing if you’re seriously considering this lifestyle in 2026:

Zoning is everything. Many counties — especially in states like Missouri, Montana, and parts of Tennessee — still have no zoning ordinance at all, or only loose agricultural zoning that doesn’t restrict how you power or plumb your home. Other counties, even in off-grid-friendly states, enforce code as aggressively as any city. You have to check county by county, not just state by state.

RV and tiny-house living occupies a legal gray zone almost everywhere. Whether a structure counts as a legal dwelling, a recreational vehicle, or an illegal accessory structure depends on foundation type, square footage, and local adoption of building code provisions like IRC Appendix Q — and that adoption is inconsistent even within a single state.

Certificate-of-occupancy rules are the quiet killer. Even in areas with lax zoning, getting a legal C of O often requires connection to municipal water, sewer, or electric — which defeats the purpose for a lot of people trying to go off-grid in the first place.

Federal incentives have actually expanded. The extended Inflation Reduction Act credits still offer a 30 percent tax credit on solar, battery storage, and qualifying off-grid water systems, even as local enforcement has tightened in places like San Francisco. It’s a strange split-screen: federal policy nudging people toward energy independence while local code enforcement teams push the other direction.

It’s a sad day when living on your own land becomes a crime. Please spread the word, because these cases aren’t slowing down — they’re spreading to bigger cities, bigger budgets, and bigger headlines.

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  1. Sickening what the people of America have swallowed. Treason all around and nobody says anything til it affects them personally. It’s been too late. It’s very sad what we have become. Keep paying for all the murder in the world. Because America is the biggest murderer. Whether you agree with it or not you finance it. Register to vote? You’ve just committed treason against the REAL United States of America. Educate yourself. Spread the word.

  2. If anyone is wondering why all this is happening to them Read UN Agenda 21 it will answer alot of your questions
    part 10 of Agenda 21
    -Integrated approach to the planning and management of land resources

  3. What does “self sufficient” really mean. Obviously these people depend on a vast web of people, organizations, corporations and government that contribute to their ability to live.

    1. They all wore “store bought clothes”. So somewhere someone other than them made these clothes, packaged them and shipped them using oil that other people processed, on roads that tax payers paid for.

    2. I didn’t see anyone riding horses. They were all driving automobiles made by licensed corporations, driving them on roads paid for by taxpayers and maintained by tax payers.

    I doubt that a single one of them could actually live independently of the vast web of society that provides most of what they have. They aren’t living in caves.

    • So people can’t live as they wish, because they don’t live up to your idea of what some other person chose to label them as, with the degree of absolute adherence that you require? I don’t think this is an accurate representation of your position.

      Everyone is dependent on others to some extent. This is why the rules of commerce and trade have been handed down from pre-history, and are what is known as common law, of which the UCC is a copyrighted version, and both of which are beyond government power to circumvent.

    • “These people” are just trying to get by, and in the process, using less fuel and water than the mainstream — issues the oligarchy is supposedly concerned about. The 7th Day couple were growing their own food. The harassment is not helping them to be more self reliant. These people are also the tax payers paying for the roads, and for the govt agents to come out and harass them. As for the clothes, how come you assume they’re not second hand?

  4. Wow. So Commiefornia really does live up to its name. Kinda sad that the counties are coming and acting as Nazis. My disabled veteran husband and I looked at putting in a solar plant here in the desert and the county tried to tell my husband he was too young to be a veteran so our request for information on disabled veteran help from the county was denied. Then we were also denied access to transmission line maps or the county land developer because we needed to pay for all the copies of paperwork it was going to take to get the maps to us. The bill for the county to get us copies magically came to about a grand. So we are now being driven to go to Nevada or Arizona. When we went out to take a look at what land was for sale we were stopped by a few men in black clothing with side arms and asked us to step off the “For Sale” property we were looking at. California has become a horrible communist state. THey don’t support the people or business or anything that is related to helping the communities in Commiefornia either.

  5. “The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”
    Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

  6. This i why our founders had a second ammendment, I would die before i moved from my homei have work for all my life. Yours is up to you. You better believe its for profit. Ive been to our land lang ago, personaly, i wouldn,t live there, but its yours. freedom is not free people. good luck

  7. I live on the East coast of the US. I am a simple man myself, growing up by following the social norm. Volunteering for my county, state, and now a private company…that upon a disaster the federal government will pay me to help with my knowledge and skills to those that are in the disaster zone. After serving in the disaster of 9/11, Katrina, Haiti, and other local disasters. I have for the past 4 years, gained a new thought process of living: Preparedness and self sufficiency of my own life. Not knowing that there are others out there like myself. Just seeing how large the numbers are out there recently, has spawned my movement in a direction to live off the grid.

    My background other than emergency medicine, was construction. My passion and hobbies to learn as much as possible of D.I.Y ( Do It Yourself) mentality has been taught to me since I was a little child. Now by seeing this video and website… I stop and wonder:

    The government has always wanted us under their grasps..the US government is a business. We the people are just numbers working and paying taxes.. We are working for the US government and by our numbers ( social security numbers) we are accounted for…to pay taxes, which is the governments money (paycheck). Now the way I see things, is the government get money from the water company, the power company, fuel, transportation, communication, etc…. if we the “off Gridders” are to live without these things “GREEN”, then others will follow us, because times are hard, and we want to have our freedom back, so we will go towards the least resistance.

    So if we live off grid, supplying our own water, sewer, food, fuel, power, thus only paying taxes and car insurance. We are in turn taking money away from the biggest business of them all, the US government.

    Now. The government wants us to recycle, reuse, and go GREEN..dont they? They say they do… but under their ways only… Buying solar panels that tie into the grid…Why should I do that, when I can spend less money and live with less, and have less impact on man and the earth?

    I have also ran into a problem on the East coast…I bought a 2 acre track of land, it is undeveloped, and I have the skills to build a structure on this land… the knowledge to provide my own power, sewer, food, and water. Be self sufficient. I am agreeing to build to code. I am agreeing to build my sewer to code.. But am still being harassed by county officials about every little thing.

    If other countries are able to live off the grid, than why can we not? I thought that the federal government was going bankrupt? If so..then why dont the government look at us ” the off grid people” and ask us how the US states can be more productive, eco friendly, self sufficient, and help save our finances and all live happily, putting our money where we need it the most. Into preparedness for our future, our children’s future, our government protection..” Hell..the electrical infrastructures protection” which is our countries weakest link… Wake up people!

    I am sure that this is not laid out grammatically correct. Though this is my “thinking” on this matter… lets go back to being simpler and practical. (Thank you for your time.)

  8. This is what happened to me in Kagel Canyon, CA except NAT brought in child services and said we were endangering our child because we were living off the grid, had too many cars, code violations, blah blah blah, etc. We lived at the top of a mountain, hardly any neighbors on a dead-end dirt road. We had a well and NAT didn’t like the fact that we didn’t pay for water. We bought the house in 1997 and we forced out in 2008. Now we live in rural Kansas.

    • I was wondering where in Kansas you were able to live off the grid. I also live in Kansas and will be wanting to do this someday.

  9. I’m speechless, this really makes my blood boil. With such a screwed up government and economy, those with the means to get by without begging for welfare, living off the land, basically being FREE, like what I thought this country was all about.
    I hunt and grow food for myself, recycle and process oils and chemicals for fuel. I tan and process my animal hides and produce my own leather products, for me. Among other Earth friendly habits, I do it all within a major city, where I pay high taxes, and for what?, I’m surrounded by ignorance.
    This country is going to hell in a handbasket, I am not the violent type, but would not put up with that crap, revolution is imminent, its how this country was made. I hope the government wakes up before anarchy breaks out

  10. this is bulllshit america is actin like every otha country with dictations we are suppossed ta be a free country but name one thing thats free here u have ta pay ta live in this country if not u got ta jail how is this a free country NOW DONT GET ME WONG I LOVE MY COUNTRY ND GIVE THA UP MOST RESPECT FOR ANY MILITARY SOILDERS CAUSE THEY FIGHTIN FOR SOMTHING WERE NOT BUT THERE ALSO FIGHTIN FOR A COUNTRY THAT DICTATES US

  11. shocking! Stories like this make me sad. It’s difficult to believe in the great lie. Freedom where is it? If those people were rich, i bet know one would be saying ish to them.
    The revolution will not be televised… God Bless America.

  12. It is said that the written word will not perish. It tends to be used against those that do not know it’s true power. Those in power either appointed, elected, or given by birthright all bend to the will of those with the power, financial or influencial in some other way. As someone who has been on the inside for my whole life I have seen the unwritten rule. Democracy in pure form does not exist due to the problems associated with everyone doing their own thing. Socialism in a pure state fails due to the loss of social motivation to do anything but subsist. I tend to agree with several good points brought up in this forum. I believe that we are being led to something that we currently will not choose to want to be a part of. Society today has been engineered to function as thus and when those in power want to change things this is the mess you tend to see. I am not a social engineered mouthpiece for what we have but folks let me tell you what I have seen. I have seen nations so devastated by inept and uncontrolled stupidity that it would terrify the masses here. Bloodshed daily is the norm not the exception, and it is who is the most brutal that controls until they are taken down by the more brutal. Look outside these borders and see what I am saying. We as people have a job to do here. It is up to us to fix our current mess. It starts at the grassroots and it builds. Yes we will have to deal with the stupidity of what we have now but compare it to what flys as society outside of our borders then you will have a new appreciation for our little 200+ experiment in social engineering, called government and conditioning. We have the ability to speak our thoughts out loud in forums such as this. Desert rats need to band together and read the constitution and the laws to fight for what is ours. We are a race of warriors and we have to defend that which is ours. The rose colored glasses must fall but we must see how we have life versus what is just outside the borders. For those who are not up to the challenge I say to you go and find somewhere else to be. I have fought for this place and my home and family. I provided all with the rights we all cherish as did so many others who came before me. I have the right to say what I say because I have recently returned from war. Not very pretty there my friends. Lets figure out how we can get together under the eyes of the watchers and become informed and do the small battles which will lead to profound changes for us all. Thank you.

  13. That’s just wrong. I live off grid and won’t go back to living on grid for any reason. I could not imagine having to go back on the grid like some of these people faced.

  14. The more we try to break away from the grid or the Matrix of control the more scared these people get. I say if they are going to make your life miserable make them miserable. Legally they can’t force you to be connected but they can try their best to confuse others as of the letter of the law. The problem is that most don’t have the money to fight this type of illegal activity in court. But the local government does because of the taxes we all pay.They are fighting us using out own money. They need to leave these people alone before someone gets interested in These local authorities homes and security.I have heard many people taking about doing just that. They say now if it comes to them their going to take it to them when they least expect it. This to me sounds like people are becoming more serious about striking back at the core of these ass holes. Their homes ect…

  15. I was born and raised in laguna beach in the 70’s.. You might think that this makes me a rich kid.. well I was raised by a parents who were hard working and self made.. my father a, canadian by birth decided early that he wanted to be free and become an American citizen.. So he did.. I was raised to believe in the founding father’s ideals.. We, all of us, everyone who rants here, and most of all the bureaucrats that are destroying this amazing country, need to read The Constitution and Declaration of Independence. We need to hold the Politicians and POLICE to the letter and Spirit of the LAW, BY FORCE, if necessary.. Until we as a population say, NO MORE and bring class action law suits against these cities and personal lawsuits against the bureaucrats who push paper in the tall glass temples of useless government stupidity.. i moved to TX.. where it is still ok to execute a child rapist, rather than sending them to therapy. Where, if you want to live in the woods in a hovel, good for you.. no one cares.. When enough people realize that CA is one of the most beautiful places on earth, but has been ruined.. You can fight them, with violence or lawsuits.. or leave…. Take their taxes and license fees away until they can’t keep hiring these looser drones, who follow any asinine order, from some Judge who failed as a lawyer. These Judges and Police are inching their way to taking away your ability to protect your families, under the guise of,.. just call 911.. thats what the police are for..HA what shit.. they are the strong arm of the politicians, YOU elect.. who will you vote for next time? CHANGE isn’t always CHANGE for the better…

    • Next loser drone that deprives you of a right, get his oath of office. (He won’t know it, but it’s the same for everyone in government but the prez.) Try to get him prosecuted by his own agency’s inspector general, then the FBI, and when they refuse (they have discretion) go to the honor dishonor process, same as the IRS uses, charging reasonable fees for the 18 USC 241,242 deprivation of rights at $250K per as per 18 USC 3571.Specifying also that you get power of attorney to seize assets to satisfy the claim. When the private process is complete get court ratification and collect. The court only has to see that the process is correctly done, not judge your rights; it is a decision by a superior court: that of contract.

  16. Well my friends and countrymen I can only add my thoughts in hope that we may contact each other, band together and “fight”.. that’s right, I said “fight”. There must be a way to be heard, and not just heard but some one in power who cares about the people- the citizens of this great and wonderful country that most of us were either born in or have been here and worked here all our lives. I am a Christian as were are forefathers and I will stand for you people that have been wronged.. but what can I do?.. I have no power or money.. but I do have faith in God the Lord Jesus Christ and I will continue to pray and hope continually that not just the county but, the men and women who serve in positions of authority within the state of California, will listen and take to heart what is happening here. We were born free! were we not?.. so do not be affraid of those who regulate and come to take away and heavily tax that freedom. Do not give up! Please…

  17. OUR Government and Our so called Leaders ARE supposed to be representing “we the peoples” and supporting OUR Rights, ALL OUR Rights. But from all i have learned and as a Senior Citizen, on life support, that we are and have been robbed in every way possible, including ALL OUR INALIENABLE RIGHTS. These so called leaders in Government ARE ruthless arrogant, lawless and or applying real Justice. I have seen nothing but reckless non-accountability and unbelievable statements wherein they will go in front of a camera and state, 65 million ‘lost’; billions ‘lost’, trillions lost. We know and all have witnessed fact, 13% jobless; homeless, starving and NO real honest media to turn to. It is high time ‘we the peoples take back OUR Government from the Traitors and Betrayers of America. Time we place OUR full voices in how we want OUR country and lives run. America is NOT the America of OUR US Constitution. It IS time for Americans to fill the streets and yank the traitors out of office on the hill, close down the Federal Reserve and reclaim America to the peoples, period. Its time to fight for what is right and send those not in agreement, who also may be from outside the borders, boundaries and Citizenship of America, as ones we can truly count on, home! America needs Citizens WE can count on not sell us out of Democracy! Stop shopping and thinking about entertainment America (yes the Elite at the top) this means corporations, industries, banks, insurance companies, etc. We have no time to quibble, America is at a cross-roads and the poor and middle-class 100% do not deserve what you of the Elite and or Corporation and Political Structure are doing to our lives. Change or be changed, period. Americans ARE marching across America and by God YOU had better be on notice. We ARE NOT going to take any more of your robbing and lawlessness. Democracy IS NOT going to take a back-seat, not on the Americans lives I know. TRUTH will out, America will continue to OCCUPY until we take back our Citizens Rights and the America the Constitution has always Supported ! tatiana

  18. It is funny how this is repeating itself now again… Church Hill said this when I was a child and heard my teacher speak it… ‘That if America is to fall it will fall from within’ Trust me that this statement is true and the prove of it is look at the Native American – the same thing has happen to them… now you… who next?

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