Is Living Off the Grid a Crime? The War on Off-Grid Living

Depending on where you live, and exactly what you decide to live in, the answer could be yes. A growing number of city and county zoning agencies around the world are implementing ordinances to crack down on off-grid living, and in case after case, they’re making it a crime.

We’ve been covering this fight for over a decade now. From targeting self-reliant homeowners with antiquated zoning laws to forming special code enforcement squads designed to force people back onto the grid, there is a war against self-reliance going on in this country — and depending on the zip code, the government is winning.

What’s changed since we first started writing about this isn’t the war itself. It’s the scale of it. The cases below start with the ones that put this issue on the map. Then we bring you current — because in the last two years alone, this fight has spread from rural homesteads to entire city blocks, and the next battle over who gets to decide how you live on your own land is being fought right now, not in some county courthouse you’ll never hear about, but in the headlines.

Living Off the Grid Is Illegal in Many Areas of the United States

Throughout the United States, government agencies have formed so-called “nuisance abatement teams” designed to intimidate and force off-grid homeowners into giving up their land or abandoning their lifestyle. Believe it or not, people are actually being fined and jailed for choosing to live an off-grid existence.

From Costilla County, Colorado trying to ban people from building off-grid homes or camping on their own land, to the federal government actually trying to make it illegal to live in a tiny house or off-the-grid RV, there are a growing number of agencies trying to regulate this lifestyle out of existence.

While the mainstream media continues to mostly ignore the problem, a handful of independent media outlets and a few stubborn reporters have taken notice. Here’s the record, case by case — the old ones that started it, and the new ones that prove nothing’s slowed down.

Off-Grid Homeowners Intimidated Into Hooking Back Into the Grid

There are literally thousands of examples of people who have been harassed, threatened, fined, and jailed for going off the grid. Here are the cases that matter.

The Deserts of Los Angeles County, California

The deserts of Los Angeles County, California used to be a sort of mecca for those looking to live a more self-reliant lifestyle. But just like so many areas of the country, these off-grid residents have been targeted, arrested, and intimidated into hooking back into the grid.

A few years back, Reason Magazine took a film crew out to one of these secluded desert towns in California and filmed the off-grid residents there. From being threatened with jail time if they didn’t hook back into the grid, to actually being thrown in jail because the county didn’t like the look of their homes or land, the people in the deserts of L.A. County have been terrorized by their own local government.

Instituted in 2006 by Los Angeles County Supervisor Michael Antonovich, the L.A. Board of Supervisors’ Nuisance Abatement Teams have been targeting and jailing residents for victimless misdemeanors and code violations ever since. Code enforcement teams have hit unincorporated areas of L.A. County hard, and local off-gridders are still living without certainty about what the future holds. Residents are scared they may lose not only their homes, but their freedom as well.

The Case of Robin Speronis in Cape Coral, Florida

Robin Speronis tried to go off the grid in Cape Coral, Florida. She disconnected from the city’s water, sewer, and electrical systems, relying instead on solar power and harvested rainwater. The city cited her for violating the International Property Maintenance Code, and a code enforcement officer eventually declared her home “unfit for human habitation” — going so far as to warn that even entering the property would constitute trespassing.

Her case went in front of Special Magistrate Harold Eskin in early 2014. The ruling split the difference in a way that still tells you everything you need to know about how these fights actually go: Eskin ruled Speronis could legally live without being hooked up to electrical power, but that she was still required to connect to the city’s water system — whether she used the water or not. Her solar setup would also need city approval. Speronis was given until March 18, 2014 to comply or face $50-a-day fines.

She didn’t comply. She appealed instead, with help from The Rutherford Institute, arguing that property owners retain a basic measure of sovereignty over what happens on their own land. By later that year, her case file listed 48 separate code violations, she’d racked up nearly $13,000 in combined water, sewer, and code enforcement liens, and the city had pulled her certificate of occupancy entirely — meaning that, legally, she could no longer be in her own house. Speronis kept fighting anyway, and her case became one of the most cited examples in the entire off-grid legal fight, cropping up in homesteading forums and prepper circles for years afterward.

Veteran Who Fought for Our Country, Thrown in Jail for Living “Off the Grid”

In November 2016, Tyler Truitt — a Marine Corps veteran who’d gone on to work at Redstone Arsenal — was thrown in jail for violating a city zoning ordinance in Huntsville, Alabama.

“We live out here off the grid, 100 percent self-sustaining,” Truitt said at the time. “I basically made all my utilities: I have my solar panels, I have my rainwater collection and stuff. I took an oath that I would support and defend the constitution and the freedoms that entails, and I really feel like those are being trampled upon.”

The city gave Truitt and his girlfriend until June 1 to bring their trailer up to code. They refused, and instead filed a civil suit against the city, challenging the ordinances directly. “We’ve yet to have any of those arguments be heard in court, so that’s what we’re trying to do with the civil suit,” Truitt told reporters. “How much is this fight worth to them? I know what it means to me. It’s my home, it’s everything, and I’m not moving the house.”

City officials didn’t budge either. “The purpose behind these requirements is public safety,” said Kelly Schrimsher, communications director for Huntsville’s mayor. “This includes ensuring that occupants of a residential dwelling have safe, potable, running water and electricity, particularly in the wintertime.”

Here’s the update nobody likes to print: Truitt lost. A judge ultimately ruled that he did not have the right to live off the grid on his own land, and Truitt was given just 14 days to either move his home or face further legal action from the city. It’s one of the clearest, most direct court rulings on record stating, in plain terms, that off-grid living can be deemed illegal — not because of safety violations on the ground, but because a permanent off-grid setup didn’t satisfy the city’s definition of a “permanent” utility source.

“We live out here off the grid, 100 percent self-sustaining,” Truitt said. “So I basically made all my utilities: I have my solar panels, I have my rainwater collection and stuff. ” took an oath that I would support and defend the constitution and the freedoms that entails, and I really feel like those are being trampled upon.”

Is It Really Your Land? According to Most Zoning Officials, You Need to Follow Their Rules

On top of using size restrictions to limit what off-grid homeowners can live in, towns throughout the U.S. also target mobile homes directly. In many areas, houses are required to be built on a permanent foundation and hooked up to public utilities before they’re considered legal dwellings at all.

Unfortunately, that piece of freedom you thought you bought might not be so free. If your land isn’t zoned for recreational vehicle living, off-grid living, or camping, you may be in for some serious trouble — and as the cases below show, that trouble didn’t stay in small rural counties. It’s gone fully mainstream.

2025–2026 Update: The Fight Has Moved to the Cities

For most of this article’s history, the off-grid fight played out in rural counties — places like Costilla County, Colorado, or unincorporated stretches of the California desert, where a handful of homesteaders squared off against a small zoning office nobody outside the county had heard of. That’s no longer where the biggest battles are happening.

San Francisco Bans Long-Term RV Living Citywide

In 2025, San Francisco passed sweeping legislation banning long-term RV living across the entire city. Under the new rules, any vehicle longer than 22 feet or taller than 7 feet is now restricted from parking in any one spot for more than two hours, citywide. RV dwellers who had already registered with the city as of May 2025 were given a narrow exemption — but only if they agreed to accept city housing assistance and give up their RV when their turn came.

Mayor Daniel Lurie set aside $13 million over two fiscal years for housing subsidies, outreach, enforcement, and a vehicle buyback program that pays RV owners $175 per foot to surrender their rigs. “This legislation combines compassion with accountability,” Lurie said when introducing the measure.

For the families actually living it, “compassion” looked like something else. Residents on Winston Drive near Lake Merced — many of them working immigrant families with children, using their RVs as the only housing they could afford in one of the most expensive cities in the country — described the rollout as a mass eviction. “Sweeps are not only a means to displace people from a sidewalk, it is a means to break down communities and break down political power,” one community organizer told reporters. One mother, who’d built a fragile routine of stability for her kids, put it simply: “You adapt to a place. We’ve already adapted to the calmness here. So going to a different place is difficult because you’re not sure if you can trust it.”

This isn’t a fringe case in a desert town anymore. This is the policy of one of the largest cities in America.

California Passes a Law Letting Counties Seize Your RV

It gets worse. In late 2025, California passed Assembly Bill 630, authored by Assemblymember Mark Gonzalez, which authorizes Los Angeles and Alameda counties to run a pilot program — active from January 2026 through January 2030 — that lets the counties “streamline the removal” of RVs deemed inoperable or abandoned, so long as the vehicle is valued at $4,000 or less.

Here’s the part that should bother anyone who’s ever lived in a vehicle by choice or necessity: the law applies even if someone is currently living in that RV. Advocates for unhoused and vehicle-dwelling residents warn the law will make life even more unstable for the people who depend on these vehicles as shelter, since once a county seizes and tows a unit, the owner frequently can’t pay the storage and towing fees required to get it back — and they’re left with nothing.

Not Every County Is Going the Same Direction — Nevada County, California

It’s worth being straight with you: not every local government is moving to crush off-grid and alternative living. Nevada County, California — where living in an RV has technically been illegal for years, despite an estimated 1,000-plus residents reportedly doing it anyway, quietly, under the radar — spent 2025 debating an ordinance that would do the opposite of San Francisco’s approach and legalize RV living on private property.

“What people don’t realize is that people are already doing it,” said longtime resident and advocate Tom Durkin, who has lived in a trailer on a friend’s property since 2018. “We tend to be very discreet because we’re paranoid, ya know, don’t want to get reported.” Durkin has spent more than six years pushing the county to recognize alternative housing as legitimate. “I’ve got excellent credit, no criminal history, I’m well educated, and I couldn’t find a place to live,” he said.

A county survey found 72 percent of respondents favored the new ordinance, and by September 2025 the county had received roughly 1,900 public comments on the draft — one of the largest public responses county staff say they’ve ever seen on a single proposal. The Board of Supervisors held three public hearings throughout 2025 before bringing the ordinance to a final vote, and it passed by a narrow 3–2 margin. It’s a real exception to the trend, and proof that this fight isn’t lost everywhere — but it took years of organizing by residents who, frankly, shouldn’t have had to fight for the right to live quietly on land they already had access to.

The Pattern Holds: Regulation by Attrition

What ties Cape Coral, Huntsville, Costilla County, and San Francisco together isn’t a single law. It’s a strategy. Few of these jurisdictions pass a law that says “off-grid living is illegal” outright — that would be too obvious, and too easy to fight in court. Instead, they regulate the specific pieces that make off-grid living possible: water hookups, RV parking duration, minimum dwelling sizes, “permanent” power source requirements, certificate-of-occupancy rules that quietly demand utility connections. Stack enough of those requirements on top of each other, and off-grid living becomes illegal in practice without ever being illegal on paper.

That’s not a conspiracy theory. It’s just how these ordinances are written, case after case, decade after decade — and it’s exactly why this fight keeps resurfacing in new cities under new names, even after the old fights are forgotten.

Where Things Actually Stand If You’re Thinking About Going Off-Grid

To be fair to the other side of this for a second: off-grid living is not, technically, illegal in any of the 50 states. What trips people up — Speronis, Truitt, the residents of Costilla County, the families on Winston Drive — is never the broad concept of self-sufficiency. It’s the local, granular stuff: water rights, septic permitting, RV occupancy duration limits, certificate-of-occupancy requirements, and “permanent dwelling” definitions that vary wildly from one county line to the next.

A few things are worth knowing if you’re seriously considering this lifestyle in 2026:

Zoning is everything. Many counties — especially in states like Missouri, Montana, and parts of Tennessee — still have no zoning ordinance at all, or only loose agricultural zoning that doesn’t restrict how you power or plumb your home. Other counties, even in off-grid-friendly states, enforce code as aggressively as any city. You have to check county by county, not just state by state.

RV and tiny-house living occupies a legal gray zone almost everywhere. Whether a structure counts as a legal dwelling, a recreational vehicle, or an illegal accessory structure depends on foundation type, square footage, and local adoption of building code provisions like IRC Appendix Q — and that adoption is inconsistent even within a single state.

Certificate-of-occupancy rules are the quiet killer. Even in areas with lax zoning, getting a legal C of O often requires connection to municipal water, sewer, or electric — which defeats the purpose for a lot of people trying to go off-grid in the first place.

Federal incentives have actually expanded. The extended Inflation Reduction Act credits still offer a 30 percent tax credit on solar, battery storage, and qualifying off-grid water systems, even as local enforcement has tightened in places like San Francisco. It’s a strange split-screen: federal policy nudging people toward energy independence while local code enforcement teams push the other direction.

It’s a sad day when living on your own land becomes a crime. Please spread the word, because these cases aren’t slowing down — they’re spreading to bigger cities, bigger budgets, and bigger headlines.

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659 COMMENTS

  1. so you guys cleaned out the natives that lived free from the land n now you are all upset cos the beau ok crazy is tellin you what not ha fukn ha. ooo it wasnt us!

  2. C’mon Militias…Here’s your chance to protect our own, and put into practice what you’ve been working for…This is just another way Government rule will win over us, and then we will all be slaves to this government of ours…I’m sure nobody wants this government anymore, just as the middle east people fought for Egypt so recent…It’s going to happen here soon. and this is just the trigger needed to start the ball rolling…Last nights debates were a joke…Every person running or trying to win the Rep vote says not one word of what they want to do for us… It’s just a mud slinging battle between each of them that goes on at every debate now…If we’re ever to take back our America the time is now, before they sell us out to China or some other foreign government…

  3. LOCK and LOAD! These a-holes need to be brought back to reality! Private Property is just that PRIVATE PROPERTY! Trespassers will be shot on sight! In this case the sword is mightier then the pen!

  4. they absolutely have plans for redeveloping the land..there is water, etc. and population growth is going to demand expansion in LA county. this is so sad.

  5. Do something.. you know who is bullying you people out of your property rights.. Take away something from them!!!!!! Learn some law and do not let those freaks on your property or else.. Look you people have the right to “defend yourselves and your property”.. If you arm yourselves and get your neighbors / friends involved with their own vests on and weaponry it will make the “county” thugs and that is what they are thugs.. think twice… The other option is lay down and let them walk all over you… this is how I see it after watching the videos.. oh yes make videos too..

  6. There’s a time for talking and there’s a time for fighting and frankly across this country the day to fight is quickly approaching. Exercise your 2nd amendment and open carry if legal in your area. Let the government think twice before try oppress our rights. Give me freedom or give me death!

  7. This is the most illegal action ever done by a state government..and I agree with most everyone on this comment site..it’s completely for their own profit that these decent self sufficient citizens are being bullied off their own land..I am so disgusted…I lived in CA most of my life and now I’m ashamed of it…these people don’t have a chance..when it comes to millions or billions if profits..the local government wont hesitate to murder anyone who tries to defend their land and homes…they can make laws all day long to support their own greed…laws are just being made to make them richer and us poorer.. so when can the rest of us expect this to happen in our states???

  8. I can’t believe that is has come to this, but then again I can. Our country is becoming communist to the point of government control. It’s a shame that the AMERICAN DREAM is being taken away from citizens who are just trying to make a way for themselves. Living off the land is the American way, but it looks like being a pioneer today is against the law. We need to start a petition on this and present it to state representatives of any state that is rejecting this way of life! The way our cities started out since the discovery of this nation is now being banned…wow! It’s all about the government not making money off these people.

  9. This smells an awful lot like a “Sustainable Development” plan according to “Agenda 21” of the UN. Seriously. The plan is to basically depopulate the countryside and “pack and stack” people.

    Google it. Don’t take my word for anything.

  10. stoive is right, it was only a matter of time. they did it and still are doing it to the native americans and nobody would give a damn. now people are wondering that the greed and the fascism within the system didn’t stop in front of the “AMERICAN DREAM”. this is the american way the AMERICAN DREAM: take what you want, when you want. it was the american way when the first white settlers came to america and did not pay respect to the property of the peoples already living on the continent. it is the american way all over the world and it is the system americans supported for centuries and now you are wondering that this greedy imperialistic system is turning against yourself. it is only eating its own children. it is the result of decades of laissez-faire mentality in the US and the most comments here are proposing not to change this system or to abolish it but to strengthen it. “AMERICAN DREAM” and “LOCK and LOAD!” is what produced the kind of people sitting in the very same government which is now turning against you… but don’t mind me. i’m just pointing you out a fishy european point of view.

  11. I feel like such an IDIOT!!! I actually had visions of being able to live off the grid – off my own power supply, grow and can my own food, etc. I am not a little freaked out by this whole thing! We were taught in College about how to live off the grid – our profs were living examples. (I believe they had signed their land over to a Nature Conservancy w/ the right to live on it until they died/retired to an ice flo in the Bering straights, or something). Now, Gov’t the bureaucracy is a bunch of Fascist pigs. Is this like the 60’s all over again?

  12. Virginia has just approved Dominion Electric’s request to charge those who are off grid for a “connection fee.” This fee is for the wire that MUST, by the new law, be connected to your home, on or off grid. It can be up to $200 a month and is based on your acreage, not house size. Why does the wire need to be connected? If I’m not your customer, why should I pay you anything? Before the meltdown, I was going to install a full off-grid power system, replete with an Edison battery room, converters for both AC and DC hookups, solar and Honeywell wind towers.
    I am not in Dominion’s service area, so I’m one of the lucky ones, so far. I live in an area that has an electric co-op, but those days a quickly coming to an end. Our co-op has to buy power from Dominion, so that fee will soon appear on our doorstep, no matter the outcome of any co-op vote. My internal grid is still on hold as after my wife’s 18 month unemployment, I am now living off the gov’s teat. Anyone need help with any kind of internal combustion engine in VA? I need to get that grid built and running before it all falls down.

  13. Begin transmission…
    It’s very simple folks, I agree with Clancy (way up top), their ultimate ‘endgame’ is world depopulation (2/3 of us no less) and the ‘grid’ is yet another expendable commodity like the ‘useless eaters yet useful slaves’ they consider us to be; they will all likewise perish except they repent. Selah. These childish yet deadly tactics of forcing everyone into poverty is right on track with their diabolical destruction of the world by design and their tyrannical iron fist smashing anything in its way is in full-force now (has been since the Babylonians, really). You see, the only way you can destroy an entire world is incrementally, you can’t just ‘poof’ the whole thing cuz if you desire to see extreme suffering, massive and brutal death and revel in the drunkenness of your wrath and hatred for all life, you gotta do it in stages. The devil came only to kill, steal and destroy and that old dead dog of a serpent is just doing what he was created to do, ‘the waster was created to destroy’. Many Christians (even atheists know somethin’ funky is goin’ on these days) are now waking up to the fact that soon there will be only one choice left for ALL humans to make, very soon you will be asked, “Will you worship the beast or die?”

    This current scientific military beast grid dictatorship system is way beyond what Orwell could have dreamed up, but his warnings (although way dumbed down than what is really going on) have fallen on deaf ears to the tune of, ‘it’s fiction, not fact’. All the elites of this dying world know full well that the “Georgia Guidestones” are in fact exposing their demonic and deadly agenda – they declare that only 500 million people are needed to run this planet, the rest of us are well, basically in the way & need to be eradicated. You see, the only reason they ever allowed a ‘middle-class’ to form was because it was forced upon them, they believe that it is insane and a sin to compete (Amshel Mayer deRottenchild admitted as much), so who in their right mind would give up even a red cent of their ‘wealth’ in order for the ‘greater good’ of all. They believe they are the ‘chosen’ ones of Lucifer who one day (very soon) will rule the world in immortal bodies & shall go forth and terrify.

    I’ve studied these putrid hybrid-humanoid creatures for nearly 4yrs now, they’re called lucifereans, not to be confused with satanists, these deceived idiots believe satan is still under his angelic title of Lucifer aka light bearer aka false light bringer, who in reality is already judged guilty by God & is merely awaiting his sentencing of eternal torment & damnation to be implemented; eternal separation from Holy God is eternal death for only God is the Source of Life. I don’t really have an issue with whether or not you believe me, that is irrelevant, what matters is that these deranged psychopaths who rule the world do believe Lucifer is God! So, for all of you who don’t know, this is a war we are in, and it really is Good vs Evil, God vs Satan, Light vs Darkness and Love vs Hate; the TRUTH is the truth with or without your approbation. The history books were corrupted years ago but if you dig a lil’ bit, you will find that each time the ‘ruled class’ morale challenged the ‘ruling class’ mind-set, there had to be bloodshed; there is never anything without the blood, for the blood is the life. Most of the blood spilled was the poor downtrodden enslaved masses, however, throughout history there have always been some courageous brave souls who helped hold back the flood gates of absolute annihilation from these vampires.

    We are now in the era of ‘operation guillotine’ folks. You will soon see a cashless society, 1 world governance (even the diabolical Vatican calls for this), 1 world currency (who owns the world? Just ask the bankers & the Black pope), 1 world religion (they say that humans are the cancer on the earth that needs to be chem’d out), 1 world dictator (remember when baby-bush called for a dictatorship but only if he gets to be the dictator?) forced inoculations (vaccines kill more people every year than disease, remember most vacs are live virus’ anyways), fluoridation, synthetic composites and mass mind control social engineering programming (Orwell’s screens telling us what to think are already here folks, soft-kill weaponry is not fiction, come on, wake-up), compulsory sterilization (we are far too undesirable to be allowed to procreate at will, why do you think the eugenicists established Planned-Parenthood aka Planned your offspring’s death?), totally tyrannical laws (living off the grid will not only be impossible and illegal, it will be punishable by prison camp or death) and massive modern day concentration ‘compounds’ (for those of us who oppose the beast system) will house all the dissidents and useful slaves who can be held indefinitely (google bill-NDAA) without the right to a lawyer or even knowing what you’re being charged with, seriously, does this sound like a world you want to live in? Well it doesn’t matter, it’s what the powers that be want and an unarmed population against a heavily bio-armed military is just the saddest slaughter of sheep you will ever witness.

    But this is nothing, wait til they come with the ‘RFID’ chip for your arm or head. You see, if they stick the implant in your hand, you can cut that off and still live, but if they jam it in your head, the only way you can get off their ‘grid’ is well, decapitation. I find it is so bizarre how these repulsive miscreants who worship death always want to see heads on platters, even as far back as John the Baptist were human heads considered the greatest trophy of all – they really are possessed by demons. Their whole mind is sick, these people think their money will save them, but I know they will one day be ‘casting their gold and silver into the streets’ and crying for the rocks to fall on their dead dog heads and kill them, but death will elude them, death will mock them & smirk at their tumult; when God shall laugh at their calamity, their suffering will be like none other, their punishment will be eternal and the smoke of their burning shall rise forever. Selah.

    So on that note, what do we do? Well, most people will say just ride out the storm and ‘git ur gunz’ ready, store some food, grab some land, protect your family, yada yada yada, and this is all well for now, but the time will come and is even upon us where you will realize that if they can obliterate a city from off the face of the earth with just 1 bomb (Hiro what’ama?) then you will see there is truly only one way to live, with Hope in Jesus Christ. Now, please do not be misled, I am not religious (I reject any man-made dogma), nor am I here to convert or even promote any affiliation or denomination (like I said, I reject man’s ways) but rather I am here as His witness; basically, I don’t care what you decide, but I am compelled to warn you regardless because I refuse to have your blood on my hands when my judgment has come.

    There is only One Way out of this thing alive with your soul in tact (and I ain’t talking about your physical body at all, that is surely gonna burn), it is by repenting for sins and receiving forgiveness through the Blood of the Worthy Lamb of God. Forget everything you ever heard, read or saw concerning life on planet earth and think of it this way, ‘If I’m wrong about Jesus of Nazareth being the Saviour of Mankind who died and rose again so that we might live forever in Him, I guess when we become worm-food it won’t matter anyways, but if I’m right (like millions of my brethren also), what you lose is your very soul – forever. The whole point of this war is for your soul, your mind is the battlefield and your body is the cannon fodder but do not be deceived, your soul is the true crown; either satan gets it or Jesus does, please remember, no matter what, Love conquers all. Amen.

    1. Men who observe lying vanities, forsake their own mercy.

    2. He (the 1 world dictator coming on the scene very shortly) causes ALL both great and small to receive the mark of the beast (666), that NO MAN might buy or sell without the mark and those who refuse to worship him shall be killed.

    3. You too shall likewise perish, except you repent.

    ~End of these Days yet World without End~….. End transmission…

    • Wow, you nailed the worlds situation 100 percent. I grew up in socialist yugoslavia and like socialist eastern europe it taught me love, happiness and gave me spirit, even today that spirit lives in the people, even after the bombings of nato, civil wars and economic embargos people have spirit and love in their hearts, we don’t have ghettos and crime just because people are poor, we live together and socialize, we belive in jesus christ , here there have been many cases where a rich man loses a bag with 10,000 euro and a poor pesant that has nothing to eat returns it because it dose not belong to him. We have love for our fellow man and pray to god, only recently have things started to change with western/ american investors, but I pray my people will stay the same, my onlu message is show love to your fellow man, help him, live together and don’t compete with eachother, when there is no class divide its a beautiful life : )

    • Hey….dude….I think you qualify for SSI diability, if you file under DSM III, diagnostic category of ‘AFU’. It is a relatively new disorder, shall we say, very recent. There are 800 numbers to call in your area. It will take you 2 years of diability to qualify for medicare, in order to get your medications.

      • Actually Wil, you qualify under DSM V for being given ‘psychosis’ and ‘narcissistic personality disorder’. I suggest you stop talking in real life before you get admitted to a mental institution.

  14. Fascinatingly disgusting, turns my stomach. Can’t even believe these thieves of freedom can live with themselves. The only remedy is for the victims to deny their opressors the “sanction
    of the victim”: don’t cave, make it a big deal. Go all the way. What have they to lose except what is already taken?

  15. I love Phonehenge! It’s like the ultimate tree house from when you’re a kid and have all those dreams of living in a tree house all your life! How awesome! That’s sad that we live in a world today that has to revolve around permits, codes, and zoning, just so the county can make their budgets work. :(
    I know I’m just one person, but my advice from my experience… If you want to live off the grid, Southeast Alaska is the place to do it! Officials understand that living off the land is how you survive. It is beautiful country, and there is nothing better than waking up in the morning with the Alaska wilderness sitting on your front porch!!
    And no, I could NOT see Russia from my house! ;)

  16. It is not Public Health Care and things like that you need to fear. It is the issue around business being tied to public polices. Medical to pharmaceuticals, oil and gas to energy the dollar. the dollar is based on oil not gold now and that is the bottom line.

    This is all wrong and I do not know what the answer is. However we must not give up. We must not confuse issues either.
    Knowledge, knowledge, knowledge.

  17. I have 20 acres in N.central Wa. and have some trouble ,the gov’t.like all corporations,want me to pay to have elec.brough to me and tell me I’ll get back any $ if some one closer to the hookup ties in later.Then told if they wait 5years to hook into the line I supplied They don’t have to pay.Ive been in the construction industry my whole career and just want to build my cabin on my land that I bought I payed for .then of course they say that I’m contaminating the water supply below if I don’t have an approved septic,at a mere cost of 20-30k.and let us not forget water.they say I can’t even collect water I have to have a well!Hmm,My property is at 2700 ft elevation,who the hell are they to tell me anything.They weren’t there for me when I needed them,they’re not really there now,Let me explain,Ive been forced into retirement due to health,given an income for the rest of my life,medicare pays most of my med.so I shouldn’t complain right!Well even with a guaranteed income for the first time in my life suddenly I can’t get a loan for anything,and if I make too much $ in any given time they don’t agree with they’ll take my income too.I purchased this parcel becuse of it’s location,I don’t see how ANYTHING short of storing toxic waste,oh sorry they’re the ones storing that all over everywhere.I can’t see anything ever leaving my land and even affecting the environment.(that’s why I don’t want to live ON-GRID they get paid to trash OUR planet and want to punish those who don’t help pay they’re fair share to help pollute!The world would put in as many homes as they could on this parcel,Right after I finish paying all they’re improvement costs,and I hope ruining the area I chose happens long after I’m gone and costs them more than it’s worth,until then me ,my children and they’res will have an oasis of filth free land and I hope the govm’nt begins helping our citizens to continue these kinds of projects and be less concerned about how many tax dollars they might lose if they help.

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